Re: using the devel version

2004-03-31 Thread Mats Bengtsson
If possible, I recommend to directly to a more recent development
version like 2.1.36 or wait a few weeks for the next stable version,
2.2.
Regarding your question, please see the FAQ list:
http://lilypond.org/web/about/faq.html
  /Mats

chip wrote:
I am using freebsd and have been using lilypond-2.0.2 from the freebsd 
ports. I am now installing the port for the devel version 2.1.8. Is 
there anything I should/need to do to my existing .ly files that will 
improve them or make them work better/properly in the devel version?
Thanks,
Chip



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Re: Guitar String Numbers

2004-03-31 Thread Mats Bengtsson
No! First of all, \center-align only works within a single markup and
makes sure that if you have several lines in your markup, these will
be aligned to each other.


This works for some reason, with one line in the markup:

cs'4^\markup{\center-align <\italic \bold "8va - - - - - "> }
I stay corrected! This happens since TextScripts don't fiddle with
the alignment themselves. If you use the same thing together with
\mark, you will not get any difference between
  \mark \markup{ \center-align <\italic \bold "8va - - - - - "> }
and
  \mark \markup{ \italic \bold "8va - - - - - " }
since the full rehearsal marks is centered above the bar line
by default.

and \box does indeed box whatever you have without moving it to
the right.  Maybe that has something to do with \box being
able to use the bounding box of the letter without running into
others?
The \box command draws the box according to how large LilyPond thinks
the content is. This is an excellent method to find out how LilyPond
guesses the extent of a markup with embedde LaTeX command. Try for
example
\markup{ \box "\\textcircled{\\tiny 8}" }
to see exactly how LilyPond fails to calculate the correct size and
position of the circled number. If center the box, you'll get the box
centered and the circled number misplaced exactly as much as it would
be without the box.
  /Mats

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Re: Guitar String Numbers

2004-03-31 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 30 March 2004 22:15, Richard Schoeller wrote:
> The box code does expand the size of the enclosed object.  Depending
> on alignment and placement within the markup, this can move the
> contents of the box a little.  However, the size only changes by the
> thickness of the lines.  I had to go back and look.  It's been a
> while.
>
> When you put a circle around the object, the circle contacts the
> bounding box at the corners.  Assuming a square object, that means
> that the circle will sqrt(2)*width wide.  So the circle is 1.7x as
> wide as the original bounding box (actually, plus the line
> thickness).
>
> If you are circling the whole markup and it is a single letter, you
> might be able to use center alignment and then tweak the position
> with hspace and padding.  If you are trying to circle a portion of
> the markup, you have a pretty hard time getting it placed.

Thanks.  Looking more closely at the results, \markup centers the left
edge of the circle over the center of the note.  Plain latex puts the
left edge of the circle over the left edge of the note, so there is a
small difference.  \center-align with \markup, puts the right edge of
the circle over the center of the note(!), which is often a quite
tolerable situation.  Plain latex with backspaces can center the circle
quite well, and hspace can tweak it too, but I didn't test that.  There
is a problem with circling two letters, as (La).  I don't know
whether anyone wants to do that.  daveA

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Beam damping

2004-03-31 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
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> [ Mac OS X 10.3.3 via Fink; Lilypond 2.1.35-1 ]
> 
> Hello!
> 
> Just wondering about Beam damping. The default setting allows beams 
> that are *far* too steep for my tastes:
> 
> 
> [I don't have a copy of Ross or any comparable text -- would they would 
> approve of a slope of 3.5 over 10?]
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't seem to have very fine control over the angle -- 
> I can only get undamped or horizontal!  =\
> 
> The code I am trying is:
>  \override Staff.Beam #'damping = #2
> 
> The docs have this to say:
> > damping (integer):
> > 1
> > Amount of beam slope damping. 0: no, 1: yes, 10: horizontal beams.
> 
> Does that mean that 2 will give a different result (i.e., more damping) 
> than 200?
> What's the algorithm?

Basically,

slope := 0.6 * tanh (slope) / damping;

but it is possible that the beam-quanting will obscure the result of
the damping. Nevertheless, it seems to do something over here.


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Re: Guitar String Numbers

2004-03-31 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 07:58, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> >>No! First of all, \center-align only works within a single markup
> >> and makes sure that if you have several lines in your markup,
> >> these will be aligned to each other.
> >
> > This works for some reason, with one line in the markup:
> >
> > cs'4^\markup{\center-align <\italic \bold "8va - - - - - "> }
>
> I stay corrected! This happens since TextScripts don't fiddle with
> the alignment themselves. If you use the same thing together with
> \mark, you will not get any difference between
>\mark \markup{ \center-align <\italic \bold "8va - - - - - "> }
> and
>\mark \markup{ \italic \bold "8va - - - - - " }
> since the full rehearsal marks is centered above the bar line
> by default.
>
> > and \box does indeed box whatever you have without moving it to
> > the right.  Maybe that has something to do with \box being
> > able to use the bounding box of the letter without running into
> > others?
>
> The \box command draws the box according to how large LilyPond thinks
> the content is. This is an excellent method to find out how LilyPond
> guesses the extent of a markup with embedde LaTeX command. Try for
> example
> \markup{ \box "\\textcircled{\\tiny 8}" }
> to see exactly how LilyPond fails to calculate the correct size and
> position of the circled number. If center the box, you'll get the box
> centered and the circled number misplaced exactly as much as it would
> be without the box.
>
>/Mats

Ingenious!  Thanks.  daveA

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relative mode in the case of tritones

2004-03-31 Thread Ben Crowell
Hi All,

I have a question about how tritones are treated in relative octave mode.
The manual says that by default each interval is made to be a fourth or
less. What happens in the case of a tritone? Is an augmented fourth
treated differently than a diminished fifth, or is it enharmonic?
AFAICT right now, tritones just go upward automatically -- is that
always true? Obviously I could just experiment, but I'd like to
suggest clarifying the documentation, and I also have a parser
I've written for a subset of the lilypond language
(for this program: http://www.lightandmatter.com/clamor/clamor.html),
and I want to make sure that what it's doing is really consistent
with what lilypond does.

Thanks in advance!


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Difficulties to start

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Peter Beer
Hi All,

I am a very newbie in using linux (suse 9.0). I wanted to print shiny scores 
with lilypond 1.8.1 from the Suse-distribution. I typed a test-file and tried 
to run ly2dvi -p test.ly, but the machine replied : 
Traceback (most recent call last); 
File "usr/bin/ly2dvi", line 194, in?
import lilylib as ly
Import Eror: No module named lilylib

Can anybody help me and tell me what went wrong?

Please do not answer too laconic because I am really an absolute beginner with 
linux.

Kind regards

Hans-Peter Beer



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Re: relative mode in the case of tritones

2004-03-31 Thread David Bobroff
At 07:45 PM 3/31/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I have a question about how tritones are treated in relative octave mode.
>The manual says that by default each interval is made to be a fourth or
>less. What happens in the case of a tritone? Is an augmented fourth
>treated differently than a diminished fifth, or is it enharmonic?
>AFAICT right now, tritones just go upward automatically -- is that
>always true? Obviously I could just experiment, but I'd like to
>suggest clarifying the documentation, and I also have a parser
>I've written for a subset of the lilypond language
>(for this program: http://www.lightandmatter.com/clamor/clamor.html),
>and I want to make sure that what it's doing is really consistent
>with what lilypond does.
>
>Thanks in advance!

I don't have the docs in front of me at the moment, but I'm sure this is
mentioned.  It *should* be that it follows the "closest note within a
fourth" rule.  And the "fourth" can be perfect, augmented, or diminished.  So:

c fes
c f
c fis

All go up.  In each case the closest f(es, is) is some sort of fourth above
c.  In these cases:

c gis
c g
c ges

All go down because g(es, is) is some sort of fourth below c.


I just woke up, I  hope I'm making sense.

-David



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