Re: pedal question

2004-03-02 Thread Atte André Jensen
Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote:

>> How do I get a final pedal that is pressed on the last note
>> and depressed on the final bar-line?
>
>
>
> I believe you mean "released", not "depressed"
your right.

> As for the actual answer to your issue, my guess is that you need to 
include some simultaneous skip notes in that last measure and attach the 
pedal release to the last of them.

Might be, I tried all combinations I could think of. I'm doubting this 
can be done, and really need a working example.

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Re: TimeSignature

2004-03-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Take a look at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/input/test/out-www/collated-files.html#time-signature-double.ly
and
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html#Text%20markup
(the music glyph for the 'C' is called 'timesig-C4/4').
   /Mats

Roland Goretzki wrote:
Hello,

the combination

   \property Staff.TimeSignature \set #'style = #'default
   \time 2/2
creates a symbol like the big letter C with a line cross from top to
bottom, in german called "Alla breve".
Now, my problem is:
How can I put two of this symbols directly one after another?
(e.g.: C|C|)
This is necessary for the following piece of music:

   Impromptu opus 90, no. 3 in g flat major from Franz Schubert

The combination

   \property Staff.TimeSignature \set #'style = #'default
   \time 2/1
creates the correct bar length, but only a symbol like:
2
1
and the same at 4/2 with the result of
4
2
I would be very happy, if I could realize the original version with the
double-symbol.
Thanks  Roland

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Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I think I understand now what's going on.
Isn't it that you in normal LaTeX with german babel write
"s (without any backslash) to get the ess-tset?
In text markups, some characters have to be escaped, for example
you have to write \\ to get a single \ in the generated output,
\" to get a " and so on (one reason is that " is used to indicate
the end of the text script). In lyrics, the syntax is slightly
different and these extra backslashes should not be used.
So, (I haven't tried this, but am quite confident that it's correct),
if you use lilypond-book on a LaTeX file with german babel you should
use "s in the lyrics and \"s in the text scripts to get your desired
symbol. However, as I wrote in my previous answer, if you also add
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
and make sure NOT to have
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
in your file header, then also ß in the input should work fine
(which is a simpler solution).
   /Mats

David Bobroff wrote:
I actually though the standard way to obtain an ess-tset in LaTeX
was \ss, it may be that the german babel adds the option to specify
it as \"s. Anyway, '\ss{}' should work well in lyrics both with
lilypond and with lilypond-book+HTML or whatever.


It is as far as I know.  When I tried it I got odd results.  I may not have
tried it without [german].  I'll have to try.  The [german] option does add
\"s = ess-tset and it works in \markup with the [german] option, but not in
lyrics.  *That's* what had me puzzled.  Evidently, LilyPond does something
different with lyrics than it does with text markup.  For the moment I've
added a line to my script to have sed run through all the *.tex files and
change a real ess-tset to "s which is what the \"s gets changed to in \markup.
-David



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Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-02 Thread David Bobroff
On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 09:08, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> I think I understand now what's going on.
> Isn't it that you in normal LaTeX with german babel write
> "s (without any backslash) to get the ess-tset?
> In text markups, some characters have to be escaped, for example
> you have to write \\ to get a single \ in the generated output,
> \" to get a " and so on (one reason is that " is used to indicate
> the end of the text script). In lyrics, the syntax is slightly
> different and these extra backslashes should not be used.

95% right.  I just tried it and it works, with one exception.  If the
ess-tset is coded as '"s' it outputs a real ess-tset unless it is
preceded by a space in the lyrics input (for hyphenation).  The vowels
with umlauts do not need to be escaped as you indicated (although for
the vowels it was working with or without the '\').  Now, maybe the
ess-tset should never be at the beginning of a syllable but at the end. 
In that case, problem solved.

In this instance the word is "heissen" (with ess-tset, of course). 
Should it be "heiss - en" or "hei - ssen"?  Or does the ess-tset get
broken up thusly: "heis - sen"?  I know just enough about German to be
completely unsure.

> So, (I haven't tried this, but am quite confident that it's correct),
> if you use lilypond-book on a LaTeX file with german babel you should
> use "s in the lyrics and \"s in the text scripts to get your desired
> symbol. However, as I wrote in my previous answer, if you also add
> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
> and make sure NOT to have
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> in your file header, then also à in the input should work fine
> (which is a simpler solution).

Using a real ess-tset would appear to be the simplest solution but I'm
using a US-dvorak keyboard layout.  I was doing a copy/paste to put it
in the file (switching temporarily to a German keyboard layout was
causing some kind of problem with X-windows, leaving me without
keyboard/mouse function after changing back).  Is there a way to input
it from the keyboard in emacs without switching layouts?  If not, the
simplest solution is to enter '"s' and hope that placing the ess-tset at
the end of a syllable is correct.  Otherwise I'll go back to my previous
solution of using sed to massage the *.tex files.

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Re: Best way to create eps

2004-03-02 Thread Adam Tee
On 03/01/04 16:25:39, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
My question now is what is the best way to create eps using dvips,
whenever I run dvips on the .dvi file I get the ugly output.
Please discribe some more details on what you try to do and what
problems you see. Also, say what LilyPond version you have and on
what platform.
I'm 2.0.0 on Debian Woody using the deb package.

I've tried
dvips -u lilypond.map -E myScore.dvi -f |epstopdf --filter >myScore.pdf
which works except for the fonts are not the feta font just symbols.  I  
think its because the TEXMF path is wrong. As the lilypond-profile  
scripts are not present.

Adam

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Re: Hey, ya! =))

2004-03-02 Thread Rutger Hofman
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If I do a DNS lookup, I get:
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Anybody on the list recognizes themselves in this domain megared.net.mx.?
Then please take action to eliminate your virus/worm/, the list is getting
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Re: Best way to create eps

2004-03-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Actually, the problem is not the missing lilypond-profile, since
the Debian installation links all the necessary files directly
into the ordinary TEXMF directory tree. Rather, it's a packaging
error in the deb package that has been fixed in the development version.
You can easily fix this yourself by running the following two commands
as root:
ln -s /usr/share/lilypond/$(VERSION)/fonts/type1 
usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/public/lilypond

texhash

(In the first command, replace $(VERSION) with 2.0.0 or whatever
you have on your machine.)
   /Mats

Adam Tee wrote:
On 03/01/04 16:25:39, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

My question now is what is the best way to create eps using dvips,
whenever I run dvips on the .dvi file I get the ugly output.


Please discribe some more details on what you try to do and what
problems you see. Also, say what LilyPond version you have and on
what platform.
I'm 2.0.0 on Debian Woody using the deb package.

I've tried
dvips -u lilypond.map -E myScore.dvi -f |epstopdf --filter >myScore.pdf
which works except for the fonts are not the feta font just symbols.  I  
think its because the TEXMF path is wrong. As the lilypond-profile  
scripts are not present.

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emacs, umlauts, tabbing, ess-tset etc.

2004-03-02 Thread David Bobroff
It seems that for lyrics it is optional to escape the ".  It appears to
work either way.  The problem with *not* escaping them is that the auto
indent gets confused for anything input after that point in the *.ly
file.  Nor does auto-highlighting of enclosures i.e.: () [] {}, take
place.  That is inconvenient.

Using \ss{} doesn't work.  For some reason LilyPond fails to add space
after the ess-tset.

In this scenario I'm also getting occasional color confusion as well,
but I have not been able to reproduce it intentionally.  Someone else
has remarked about the "string" color continuing where it should not
have.

For this problem it seems that the simplest thing to do is to use
[german] and enter ess-tset as a real one (and treat the *.tex file to
sed) or as '\"s' and then remove the '\' before compiling the score (or
perhaps do the sed thing in this case as well).

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[no subject]

2004-03-02 Thread Mitch Rothstein
Hi,

I'm trying to install lilypond. I entered

fink install lilypond-unstable

It went along well for awhile,   then gave me the following  messages:

You don't a valid teTeX installation; you were missing
 /usr/local/teTeX/lib/libkpathsea.a  
/usr/local/teTeX/include/kpathsea/tex-file.h

Install the tetex-texmf and tetex-base packages instead,
or install teTeX manually from
http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/texshop.html
and then retry installing the system-tetex package.
dpkg: error processing  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/text/system- 
tetex_20010808-12_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
  
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/text/system- 
tetex_20010808-12_darwin-powerpc.deb
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't install package system-tetex-20010808-12

I have a working version of   TeXShop,  so I do know that  teTeX works  
fine.   On the other hand,  my /usr/local/teTex  directory has no /lib   
subdirectory. Nor do I have anything called tex-file.h

I don't know if this matters,  but  after entering  fink install  
lilypond-unstable  I was asked to resolve some dependencies.  Among  
these was

fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency.  
The
candidates:

(1)  tetex-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation
(2)  system-tetex: Placeholder package for manually installed teTeX
(3)  tetex-nox: Base programs for teTeX, with X11 disabled
Since I already had teTex,  I chose [2].  I'm  afraid to try [1],   
lest I screw something else up.

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Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-02 Thread Oddmund Åvik
På tirsdag, 2. mars 2004, kl. 11:07, skrev David Bobroff:

In this instance the word is "heissen" (with ess-tset, of course).
Should it be "heiss - en" or "hei - ssen"?  Or does the ess-tset get
broken up thusly: "heis - sen"?  I know just enough about German to be
completely unsure.
I have just completed some songs for a German composer, and he sais 
that ess-tset (ß) shall be broken s-s ("heis-sen").

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Re: globals and grace notes and sly.py is up

2004-03-02 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Monday 01 March 2004 18:52, Paul Scott wrote:
> David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> >On Sunday 29 February 2004 23:06, Paul Scott wrote:
> >>Using globals helps me save a lot of typing and makes time and
> >>measure number mistakes far less likely.  Is there a way I can
> >>eliminate the extraneous 4/4 and extra bar line at the end of this
> >>example?
> >>
> >>TIA,
> >>
> >>Paul Scott
> >
> >I couldn't figure out what was wrong with the 2/4, but I got the
> >extra bar with a sneaky trick using \partial:
> >
> >\score{
> >\context Staff <<
> > \context Voice { \notes %\time 2/4
> >\partial 2 \skip 2*3 }
> > \context Voice { \notes \relative c {
> > \time 2/4
> > \repeat volta 2 { \acciaccatura{ fis16[ gis ais] }
> >   b8 r r4 }
> > \repeat volta 2 { \grace{ fis16[( gis ais] }
> >   b8) r r4 }
> > \repeat volta 2 { \appoggiatura{ fis16[( gis ais] }
> >   b8) r r4 }
> >
> > }
> > }
> >
> >}
>
> Thanks, Dave.
>
> With 2.1.28 your version *does* solve the 2/4 problem.

I meant the problem that your global doesn't work right.  There is a 
bug.
It's supposed to work.  I failed to find a workaround.  \partial is a
workaround of a bug.

> removes the \time statement from the definition that I want to be my
> global. These globals are so that I don't have to type anything for
> each part which could be typed once for the whole composition.  So
> far grace notes are the only thing that wreck my scheme which is what
> this test was about.
>
> Here's a new example which takes a previous grace type operation to
> get another one to recognize a slur.
>
> I'm still trying to find someone who has an answer to placing
> structure in one place so that it doesn't have to be typed more than
> once and can be seen better.  Does sly help in this?

To be typed in more than one place, no.  To be seen better, sure,
because you can have all of your simultaneous measures visible in your
editor at once.  That certainly makes it easier to type this stuff which
you shouldn't have to type into each part.  You need to submit two bug
reports, I think.  I have used a global part in the past for the same
purpose as you are doing and I hope to continue doing so.  If you are
missing something, I am missing it too.

Sly.py is up.  It's been tested pretty well, but if you have a bad
experience let me know, please.

I've had good luck with doing things backwards, add-ons first, so I will
create a program that puts a sly file together from parts before I
finish the editing features of sly.  That will be useful in it's own
right.  daveA

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Re: emacs, umlauts, tabbing, ess-tset etc.

2004-03-02 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 02 March 2004 08:36, David Bobroff wrote:
> It seems that for lyrics it is optional to escape the ".  It appears
> to work either way.  The problem with *not* escaping them is that the
> auto indent gets confused for anything input after that point in the
> *.ly file.  Nor does auto-highlighting of enclosures i.e.: () [] {},
> take place.  That is inconvenient.
>
> Using \ss{} doesn't work.  For some reason LilyPond fails to add
> space after the ess-tset.

\ss{} or \ss{ }?  { } is one way of protecting a space, and escaping the
space is another.  I shouldn't think that two brackets without a space
between would do anything.  daveA

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Interline spacing for multiple lines of lyrics

2004-03-02 Thread Charles . Lawrence . Collins
I'm trying to put multiple lines of lyrics under a melody. The default settings cause 
the lines of text to be spaced too far apart vertically to suit me here. I reckon I 
need to fool with, possibly, baseline-skip or minimumVerticalExtent on some object(s), 
but I have not been able to figure out which. Can anyone help?


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adding lyrics is baffling to me...

2004-03-02 Thread smacnay
Hi everyone,

I need help with lyrics.  I am using version 2.1.0-2 in Debian Sarge
(testing) and my lyrics are not lining up under notes.  I need to know
how to install spaces in lyrics where there are rests.

I have:

\paper { indent = 1.0 }
\score  { <<

\context ChordNames \chords { r2. a2. e2. e2. a2. d2. a2. e2. a2. }
\new Staff \notes { \clef bass \key a \major \time 6/8
\partial 8*1 e8 | a a a a gis fis gis4. r4 e8
b b b b a b a4. r4 a8
d' d' d' fis4 d'8 cis'4 b8 b8 a4 a8
b4 a8 gis4 gis8 a4.~a4 r8}

\context Lyrics \lyrics {
On8 Mon8--day8 I8 went8 to8 my8 home, And8
there8 I8 was8 paint8-ed8 in8 blue. I8
sang8 a8 nice8 song4, the8 whole4 day8 long4, And8
it4 was8 called4 ''.}
>> }

It is the rests that seem to get words even though I don't want that.

Also, there is a pickup note at the beginning of the piece, how do I set
the final bar as having 5 of the 6 eight notes?

Thanks for any help.  Maybe direction to documentation for my version of
lilypond would be best.  I have some on my machine but the web site has
differing docs.

All the best,

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Re: Hey, ya! =))

2004-03-02 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Tuesday 02 March 2004 14.14, Rutger Hofman wrote:
> According to the headers, this comes from 51.78.92.200 helo=ENTHUSIA.
> If I do a DNS lookup, I get:
> 61.78.92.200.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer
> customer-TEP-78-61.megared.net.mx.
>
> Anybody on the list recognizes themselves in this domain megared.net.mx.?
> Then please take action to eliminate your virus/worm/, the list is getting
> a bit overloaded...

This trick doesn't seem to help, the ip:s seem to be faked somehow... each 
worm-infected message has a unique ip which its headers says it comes from.

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attachment filtering

2004-03-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Hi there,

in response to rising complaints and because of being fed up with it,
Jan and I have decided to reject application/octet-stream attachments
from lilypond-user and bug-lilypond. This is intended as a temporary
measure, until the flood of mail has died down and/or gnu.org has a
better mechanism against virus forwarding.

If you want to send .ly or diff files as attachments, then rename them
to .txt and attach them.

greetings,

Han-Wen
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