Re: [lilypond] Re: [inbox] Re: Runtime problem with 2.0.1

2003-10-08 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Carter Brey writes:

> /version "1.6.5"

Use \version

> but 2.0.1 choked on the resulting .ly files anyway.

Please post a small example of the problem.

> As you say, it may be that convert-ly is buggy.

There are already fixes in CVS, but I feel reluctant to make a
new release only for a fix in convert-ly.

Jan.

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Re: Problem with conversion: bug?

2003-10-08 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Larry Gilbert writes:

> I noticed this, too.

Please try again using convert-ly from CVS.  If you have problems,
post a small example.  The example 1.8.2 source that Thorkil posted
had several problems: slurs ending on rests and barchecks between a
note and the slur command.

Jan.

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Re: trouble with LaTeX package "doublespace"

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Weird! However, I followed the advice in the CTAN catalogue entry for
doublespace:
"Defines the spacing environment which you can use anywhere in your 
document. This package is superseded by setspace."

and tried the setspace package instead, which seems to work well.

   Mats

Joshua Haberman wrote:
lilypond-book works as expected on this LaTeX file:

-

\documentclass{article}
%%\usepackage{doublespace}
\begin{document}

\begin{figure}
\begin{lilypond}
c'
\end{lilypond}
\end{figure}
\end{document}

-

If I uncomment "\usepackage{doublespace}" though, I get the attached
DVI.  Basically, everything is squished together vertically.  Enabling
the double spacing *does* produce correct results if the lilypond
section is not inside a figure.
I have gotten this result using the official Debian packages of lilypond
1.8.1, as well as the 2.0.1 package posted by Pedro Kroger.
Any ideas?  Please cc: me, I am not subscribed.

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Re: Help with fonts

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The .map file is probably OK, but the critical thing is that the
feta*.pfa files really belong to your current LilyPond version.
What does
grep CreationDate `kpsewhich feta20.pfa`
return?
The flag -u -lilypond.map tells dvips to use the scalable fonts
*.pfa instead of bitmap fonts *.*pk in the Postscript.
You won't see much of a difference in the .ps file unless you
magnify it but it makes a huge difference in how PDF files
appear on screen.
By the way, could you clarify more exactly what you mean by
"look dreadful".
   /Mats

Robert de Vries wrote:
I have the same problem. The results of the builtin ps conversion look 
dreadful.

On Tuesday 07 October 2003 11:23, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

Make sure that the files lilypond.map and feta20.pfa are installed and
belong to the 2.0.0 installation. Also, make sure that the teTeX
filename database is up to date by running 'texhash' as root.


done that

To find out where dvips finds the files, run the following commands:
kpsewhich --format='dvips config' lilypond.map
kpsewhich feta20.pfa


Looks ok to me too.


Both should return the full path to the corresponding file.


And they do.


Invoking `dvips  -ta4 -Ppdf -G0 -u +lilypond.map -oteste.ps teste.dvi


But if I run the command without the -u +lilypond.map it works. So something 
is fishy with the lilypond.map file I guess.

I run 2.0.1 redhat version as made available from the download page.

	Robert

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Very long hyphens in lyrics

2003-10-08 Thread Erik Sandberg
Hi,

I'm typesetting a piece where the first syllable "dam" of one word "dam - ni" 
is ornamented for 3 bars. I am no expert in vocal music notation, but all my 
sources notate this by using a sequence of short hyphens ("dam - - - - - ni" 
like LyrB below) instead of one very long hyphen ("dam  ni" like 
LyrA below). However, my hack in LyrB is an ugly hack that shouldn't be done.

Is there an easy way of achieving something similar in Lilypond? If not, 
should there be one? (Since this seems to be some kind of standard, perhaps a 
special notation of it would be motivated? E.g., --- or -- --?)

Thanks,
Erik

\version "2.0.1"

Not = \notes \relative d' {
  \time 3/8
  \key d\major

  \partial 4 e8 a |
  fis16 e fis g a b |
  %30
  e, d e fis g a |
  d, cis d e fis gis |
  a8 e cis' |
  b16(  a) gis4 |
  a4 r8 | 
}

LyrA = \lyrics {
  no8 -- stri dam8*10 -- ni8 cau -- sa __ su4 -- mus.
}

LyrB = \lyrics {
  no8 -- stri dam8. -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _16*5 -- ni8 cau -- sa __ su4 -- 
mus.
}

\score {
  <<
   \new Staff \Not
   \new Lyrics \LyrA
   \new Lyrics \LyrB
  >>
}



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Re: configure warning for 2.0 build

2003-10-08 Thread Patrick Atamaniuk
Hello,

 kpathsea.h (on FreeBSD) redefines getopt() in an incompatible manner.
you may ignore this warning, i compiled lilypond successfully ignoring
that.
However if you define -D__GNU_LIBRARY__ within CFLAGS, kpathsea.h
will define getopt() correctly.

Have a look at http://www.foo42.de/devel/lilypond-freebsd/
for FreeBSD specific issues and port skeletons to test with.
I appreciate any feedback or testing results on that.

I'll have an inofficial 4.8-RELEASE binary package of lilypond 2.0.1 up there
in this minute. The pkg depends on python-2.3.1_1 libltdl-1.5 guile-1.6.4_2
tough it should work with python-2.1 as well.

regards,
 /p

Chris Staskewicz([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2003.10.06 12:11:27 +:
> if someone might be able to help me with the following warning with
[...] 
>
> checking kpathsea/kpathsea.h usability... no
> checking kpathsea/kpathsea.h presence... yes
> configure: WARNING: kpathsea/kpathsea.h: present but cannot be compiled
> configure: WARNING: kpathsea/kpathsea.h: check for missing prerequisite headers?
> configure: WARNING: kpathsea/kpathsea.h: proceeding with the preprocessor's result
> configure: WARNING: ##  ##
> configure: WARNING: ## Report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
> configure: WARNING: ##  ##

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Re: Help with fonts

2003-10-08 Thread Robert de Vries
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 11:16, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> The .map file is probably OK, but the critical thing is that the
> feta*.pfa files really belong to your current LilyPond version.
>
> What does
> grep CreationDate `kpsewhich feta20.pfa`
> return?
%%CreationDate: Mon Sep 29 03:59:26 2003

>
> The flag -u -lilypond.map tells dvips to use the scalable fonts
> *.pfa instead of bitmap fonts *.*pk in the Postscript.
> You won't see much of a difference in the .ps file unless you
> magnify it but it makes a huge difference in how PDF files
> appear on screen.
>
> By the way, could you clarify more exactly what you mean by
> "look dreadful".

The notes only have stems, no note heads or flags (or what do you call them in 
English).

I noticed you mentioning -u -lilypond.map, the lilypond script uses -u 
+lilypond.map.

The commandline used to generate ps output looks like this:
dvips  -ta4 -Ppdf -G0 -u -lilypond.map -oFranc_berger.ps Franc_berger.dvi
I cannot find the -G and the -u option in the dvips I have. 
dvips tells me that it is:
This is dvips(k) 5.86 Copyright 1999 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com)

Maybe I need a higher version of dvips?

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Re: Help with fonts

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson


Robert de Vries wrote:
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 11:16, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

The .map file is probably OK, but the critical thing is that the
feta*.pfa files really belong to your current LilyPond version.
What does
grep CreationDate `kpsewhich feta20.pfa`
return?
%%CreationDate: Mon Sep 29 03:59:26 2003
Seems reasonable for a version 2.0.1 package!

The flag -u -lilypond.map tells dvips to use the scalable fonts
*.pfa instead of bitmap fonts *.*pk in the Postscript.
You won't see much of a difference in the .ps file unless you
magnify it but it makes a huge difference in how PDF files
appear on screen.
By the way, could you clarify more exactly what you mean by
"look dreadful".


The notes only have stems, no note heads or flags (or what do you call them in 
English).
Then, it seems that dvips doesn't find the font file at all.

I noticed you mentioning -u -lilypond.map, the lilypond script uses -u
+lilypond.map.
Sorry, just a misprint.

The commandline used to generate ps output looks like this:
dvips  -ta4 -Ppdf -G0 -u -lilypond.map -oFranc_berger.ps Franc_berger.dvi
I cannot find the -G and the -u option in the dvips I have. 
dvips tells me that it is:
This is dvips(k) 5.86 Copyright 1999 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com)

Maybe I need a higher version of dvips?
That shouldn't be necessary.

It would be interesting to see the lines printed out by dvips.
On my machine, it says something like
This is dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software 
(www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2003.10.07:1249' -> a.ps
<0ef0afca.enc>
. 

[1]

where the  shows that the font file feta20.pfa is
embedded in the Postscript.
If it's not included in the printouts, you have to find out why dvips
doesn't find the file. It should find using exactly the same library
call as 'kpsewhich feta20.pfa'. You can get lots of debugging
information to help you track down the problem if you run
dvips -d -1 -Ppdf -G0 -u +lilypond.map Franc_berger.dvi
and look at the printouts sent to stderr.
/Mats



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Re: Very long hyphens in lyrics

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
One common way to typeset this is to use an extender line,
as you have done after cau-sa. It shouldn't be hard to
implement support for this alternative layout, for example
adding a property to LyricHyphen or LyricExtender. We already
have support for dashed lines in several other contexts.
   Mats

Erik Sandberg wrote:
Hi,

I'm typesetting a piece where the first syllable "dam" of one word "dam - ni" 
is ornamented for 3 bars. I am no expert in vocal music notation, but all my 
sources notate this by using a sequence of short hyphens ("dam - - - - - ni" 
like LyrB below) instead of one very long hyphen ("dam  ni" like 
LyrA below). However, my hack in LyrB is an ugly hack that shouldn't be done.

Is there an easy way of achieving something similar in Lilypond? If not, 
should there be one? (Since this seems to be some kind of standard, perhaps a 
special notation of it would be motivated? E.g., --- or -- --?)

Thanks,
Erik
\version "2.0.1"

Not = \notes \relative d' {
  \time 3/8
  \key d\major
  \partial 4 e8 a |
  fis16 e fis g a b |
  %30
  e, d e fis g a |
  d, cis d e fis gis |
  a8 e cis' |
  b16(  a) gis4 |
  a4 r8 | 
}

LyrA = \lyrics {
  no8 -- stri dam8*10 -- ni8 cau -- sa __ su4 -- mus.
}
LyrB = \lyrics {
  no8 -- stri dam8. -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _16*5 -- ni8 cau -- sa __ su4 -- 
mus.
}

\score {
  <<
   \new Staff \Not
   \new Lyrics \LyrA
   \new Lyrics \LyrB
  >>
}


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RE: Very long hyphens in lyrics

2003-10-08 Thread Bertalan Fodor
IMHO LilyPond's lyrics engraving is not very good at all. This kind of lyric
hyphen is by design - but I don't understand why.. I think currently using
"no- stri dam- ni cau- sa" gives better results (and that kind of
hyphenation is more common). 

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It doesn't work...

2003-10-08 Thread Jean-Yves Gantois



Hello,
 
I have installed Lilypond on my computer (Windows 98). 
In the window "BASH", when I write 'lilypond test.ly', the answer is "BASH: 
lilypond: command not found".
 
Thank you for your help.
 
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RE: It doesn't work...

2003-10-08 Thread Bertalan Fodor
How do you open the window "BASH"?

When you install cygwin it creates an icon on the desktop, and maybe some
other place. Do you run it with that shortcut?

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Re: It doesn't work...

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It seems that you Lilypond wasn't installed for some reason,
just the default Cygwin system. Try again to run the setup.exe
program and follow the instructions of
http://lilypond.org/web/download/windows.html
very carefully (it won't take that long the second time since it will
realize what has already been installed). If it still doesn't work,
read til the end of the web page to see how to get more help.
   /Mats

Jean-Yves Gantois wrote:
Hello,
 
I have installed Lilypond on my computer (Windows 98). In the window 
"BASH", when I write 'lilypond test.ly', the answer is "BASH: lilypond: 
command not found".
 
Thank you for your help.
 
Jean-Yves Gantois
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Re: Help with fonts

2003-10-08 Thread Robert de Vries
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 14:02, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

> It would be interesting to see the lines printed out by dvips.
> On my machine, it says something like
>
> This is dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software
> (www.radicaleye.com)
> ' TeX output 2003.10.07:1249' -> a.ps
> <0ef0afca.enc>
> . 
> 
 
[1]
>
> where the  shows that the font file feta20.pfa is
> embedded in the Postscript.

This is what my output looks like:
calvin:~/VVE/Arcadelt$ dvips  -ta4 -Ppdf -G0 -u +lilypond.map 
-oFranc_berger.ps Franc_berger.dvi
This is dvips(k) 5.86 Copyright 1999 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2003.10.08:1312' -> Franc_berger.ps

. 
[1] [2]

It looks like it finds the pfa files alright.

>
> If it's not included in the printouts, you have to find out why dvips
> doesn't find the file. It should find using exactly the same library
> call as 'kpsewhich feta20.pfa'. You can get lots of debugging
> information to help you track down the problem if you run
> dvips -d -1 -Ppdf -G0 -u +lilypond.map Franc_berger.dvi
> and look at the printouts sent to stderr.

It seems to find all feta files (pfa and tfm) files. Could it be a problem of 
the pdf viewer? When I look at a pdf file generated with the -u option I get 
the following font information from acroread (5.0 on Linux):

Orignal FontTypeEncodingUsed Font  
 Type
CMBX10  Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMBX12  Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMCSC10 Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR7Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
GNU-LilyPond-feta-nummer-6.5Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
GNU-LilyPond-feta-13Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
cmti5   Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR6Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
GNU-LilyPond-feta-nummer-4.58   Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR10   Type1   Built-in

In this case the note heads have all disappeared.

When I look at the pdf file generated without the -u option I get the 
following font information from acroread:

Orignal FontTypeEncodingUsed Font  
 Type
CMBX10  Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMBX12  Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMCSC10 Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR7Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
A   Type3   Custom  A  
 Type 3
CMR6Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR10   Type1   Built-in

The notes look ok at normal scale, but when scaled to 1200% they appear as 
blocks.

Robert


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Re: (Artificial) harmonics

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The syntax isn't much of a problem. You could define your own command:
nh = \notes {\once \property Thread.NoteHead \set #'style = #'harmonic }
and use it like '\nh c4'.

Also for the artificial harmonic it can be done, but you would have to
do a Scheme function since it has to calculate the position of the
diamond shaped note.
This is the power of LilyPond. There are thousands of different things
you can do by setting different properties. It's impossible to include
shortcut definitions of every possible feature but it's easy for every
user to define shortcuts for his own favourites.
   Mats

Maarten Boasson wrote:
I am newcomer to Lilypond, and I like what I see - which to date is only
very little.
Almost immediately I ran into a problem: artificial harmonics (cello
music; the problem is the same for all string instruments, of course).
The solution to that problem came through interaction with Lilypond from
A. Beneteau, who sent me the follwowing exxample:
---
\score {
\notes
\new Staff { << { \property Voice.NoteHead \set #'style = #'harmonic
g'} \\ {c'4} >> }
}
Note very obvious, nor short to type, but this is the idea
---
This indeed works. But, I don't think the solution is worthy of
Lilypond: the noteheads are really just a little too small and the entry
is much more cumbersome than necessary, I would think.
For an example, see the attached extract from S. Saens' 3rd violin
concerto: it is clear that the diamond-shaped heads actually cross the
staff lines when the note is between the lines!
My desire would be to have a syntax like the following (but not
necessarily this; anything else that fits better with the Lilypond style
is fine, of course):
c\ahfor artificial harmonics, in which case Lilypond would
automatically create the two noteheads that represent this in printed
music: the lower, regular note at the pitch specified, and an open,
diamond shaped one a fourth above it (see attached); for the very rare
case that a different interval is used, an additional modifier could be
used;
d\nhfor natural harmonics, where only the diamond shaped 
head is
printed at the specified pitch.

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Re: Help with fonts

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Everything looks just normal. Acroread 5.0 on Linux should work
fine, but maybe you should send (as attachments or refering to a
WWW page) a small example file (preferably including both the .ly,
the .ps and .pdf) so we could check. Also, describe exactly the
command you use to produce the file.
   Mats



Robert de Vries wrote:
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 14:02, Mats Bengtsson wrote:


It would be interesting to see the lines printed out by dvips.
On my machine, it says something like
This is dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software
(www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2003.10.07:1249' -> a.ps
<0ef0afca.enc>
. 
 
[1]

where the  shows that the font file feta20.pfa is
embedded in the Postscript.


This is what my output looks like:
calvin:~/VVE/Arcadelt$ dvips  -ta4 -Ppdf -G0 -u +lilypond.map 
-oFranc_berger.ps Franc_berger.dvi
This is dvips(k) 5.86 Copyright 1999 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2003.10.08:1312' -> Franc_berger.ps

. 
[1] [2]

It looks like it finds the pfa files alright.


If it's not included in the printouts, you have to find out why dvips
doesn't find the file. It should find using exactly the same library
call as 'kpsewhich feta20.pfa'. You can get lots of debugging
information to help you track down the problem if you run
dvips -d -1 -Ppdf -G0 -u +lilypond.map Franc_berger.dvi
and look at the printouts sent to stderr.


It seems to find all feta files (pfa and tfm) files. Could it be a problem of 
the pdf viewer? When I look at a pdf file generated with the -u option I get 
the following font information from acroread (5.0 on Linux):

Orignal FontTypeEncodingUsed Font  
 Type
CMBX10  Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMBX12  Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMCSC10 Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR7Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
GNU-LilyPond-feta-nummer-6.5Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
GNU-LilyPond-feta-13Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
cmti5   Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR6Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
GNU-LilyPond-feta-nummer-4.58   Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR10   Type1   Built-in
In this case the note heads have all disappeared.

When I look at the pdf file generated without the -u option I get the 
following font information from acroread:

Orignal FontTypeEncodingUsed Font  
 Type
CMBX10  Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMBX12  Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMCSC10 Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR7Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
A   Type3   Custom  A  
 Type 3
CMR6Type1   Built-inEmbedded Subset Type 1
CMR10   Type1   Built-in
The notes look ok at normal scale, but when scaled to 1200% they appear as 
blocks.

	Robert

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Re: Help with fonts

2003-10-08 Thread Robert de Vries
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 15:21, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> Everything looks just normal. Acroread 5.0 on Linux should work
> fine, but maybe you should send (as attachments or refering to a
> WWW page) a small example file (preferably including both the .ly,
> the .ps and .pdf) so we could check. Also, describe exactly the
> command you use to produce the file.

Have a look at http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhdv/music/index.html

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Re: Help with fonts

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
There's something strange with the feta13.pfa that's embedded in the
your Postscript file. Unfortunately, I'm not fluent enough in Postscript
to realize what the problem is. You mentioned in your first email that
you had installed the "2.0.1 redhat version as made available from the
download page". I can't see any RedHat 2.0.1, so exactly what .rpm file
did you download? Have you tried any other of the .rpm files?
   Mats



Robert de Vries wrote:
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 15:21, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

Everything looks just normal. Acroread 5.0 on Linux should work
fine, but maybe you should send (as attachments or refering to a
WWW page) a small example file (preferably including both the .ly,
the .ps and .pdf) so we could check. Also, describe exactly the
command you use to produce the file.


Have a look at http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhdv/music/index.html

	Robert

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Re: (Artificial) harmonics

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Maarten Boasson wrote:
I am newcomer to Lilypond, and I like what I see - which to date is only
very little.
Almost immediately I ran into a problem: artificial harmonics (cello
music; the problem is the same for all string instruments, of course).
The solution to that problem came through interaction with Lilypond from
A. Beneteau, who sent me the follwowing exxample:
---
\score {
\notes
\new Staff { << { \property Voice.NoteHead \set #'style = #'harmonic
g'} \\ {c'4} >> }
}
This is probably not what you want, the two notes should share the same
stem, right? The trick to obtain this is to put the two notes in
separate Thread contexts:
harm = \notes {\once \property Thread.NoteHead \set #'style = #'harmonic }

\score {
\notes
\new Voice { << c'4 \new Thread {\harm f'} >> }
}
How could you have found out?
- Search the mailing list archives.
- Find the example 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html#note-head-style.ly

I agree that this is something that should be in the manual.

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Re: Help with fonts

2003-10-08 Thread Robert de Vries
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 17:23, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> There's something strange with the feta13.pfa that's embedded in the
> your Postscript file. Unfortunately, I'm not fluent enough in Postscript
> to realize what the problem is. You mentioned in your first email that
> you had installed the "2.0.1 redhat version as made available from the
> download page". I can't see any RedHat 2.0.1, so exactly what .rpm file
> did you download? Have you tried any other of the .rpm files?

I downloaded the one compiled for fedora (Severn/test2).
As it seems that you find the package suspect, I have rebuilt the lilypond 
2.0.1 from the tarball, and lo and behold, no more funny stuff! It works.
It seems that the fedora package has been incorrectly built.
I hereby offer my rpm packages for RedHat 9 on my web site.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhdv/music/index.html

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Repeated sections and key signatures

2003-10-08 Thread Walter Hofmeister
Hello all,
I am a newbie to Lilypond but so far have been having fun learning to
engrave music with it. I have searched the archive for this problem and have
not found an answer to it. Sorry if it has been covered.
The problem occurs when notating a melody that has repeated sections.
This piece has the form AABB where A is repeated and B has alternate
endings.
Here is how the code would look:

\notes {
\key g \major
\relative c' {
%A section

\repeat volta 2 {
some notes } 

%B section
\repeat volta 2 {
some more notes }
\alternative {
{ ending one }
{ ending two }
}
\bar "|." 
}
}

For a situation such as this, Lilypond seems to always attempt to place the
repeat sign for the beginning of the B section at the beginning of the line.
The problem is that it places the repeat sign BEFORE the key signature
instead of after it. This looks very odd and I have never seen this done
this way in a printed edition. Has anybody else come across this? Is it a
bug? Is there a way around this?

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turn off accidental cancellation

2003-10-08 Thread Steve Grazzini
By default Lily provides the cancellation -- so this e-flat gets a
natural (to cancel the e-sharp in the signature) and then the flat.

  \key fis \major
  ees

Is there a property that controls this behavior?

Thanks

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Re: turn off accidental cancellation

2003-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Using-the-predefined-accidental-variables.html#Using%20the%20predefined%20accidental%20variables
and
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html#accidentals.ly
 Mats

Steve Grazzini wrote:

By default Lily provides the cancellation -- so this e-flat gets a
natural (to cancel the e-sharp in the signature) and then the flat.
 \key fis \major
 ees
Is there a property that controls this behavior?

Thanks

 





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[Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details]

2003-10-08 Thread Aaron
Hi all,

I rememeber reading about a change to \relative. I opened the news
section of the docs and this is what I saw.

I just can't make heads or tails out of it, could someone explain this
for me??

Also if this is a new way of using \relative it seems that the old way
is still in the docs
-
The definition of \relative has been simplified. Octaves are now always
propagated in the order that music is entered. In the following example,
PRE
\repeat "unfold" 3  BODY \alternative { ALT1 ALT2 }
POST
  

the octave of BODY is based on PRE, the starting octave of ALT1 on BODY,
the starting octave of ALT2 on ALT1, and the starting octave of POST on
ALT2. 

The same mechanism is used for all other music expressions, except the
chord. Backwards compatibility is retained through a special program
option, which is set through 


#(ly:set-option 'old-relative)
  ---

Thanks
Aaron




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relative question

2003-10-08 Thread Aaron
sorry about the previous post with the weird subject,(a mixup with my email client) I 
am reposting with my 
original subject.
Aaron

Hi all,

I rememeber reading about a change to \relative. I opened the news
section of the docs and this is what I saw.

I just can't make heads or tails out of it, could someone explain this
for me??

Also if this is a new way of using \relative it seems that the old way
is still in the docs
-
The definition of \relative has been simplified. Octaves are now always
propagated in the order that music is entered. In the following example,
PRE
\repeat "unfold" 3  BODY \alternative { ALT1 ALT2 }
POST
  

the octave of BODY is based on PRE, the starting octave of ALT1 on BODY,
the starting octave of ALT2 on ALT1, and the starting octave of POST on
ALT2. 

The same mechanism is used for all other music expressions, except the
chord. Backwards compatibility is retained through a special program
option, which is set through 


#(ly:set-option 'old-relative)
  ---

Thanks
Aaron




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Re: turn off accidental cancellation

2003-10-08 Thread Steve Grazzini
Thanks for the reply -->

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:24:01PM +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html#accidentals.ly

This example actually shows the default behavior I mentioned, but doesn't
show how to modify it.  In the second-to-last measure the c-double-flat 
gets both 1) the natural to cancel the c-sharp in the signature and also
2) the double-flat.

I'd just like to see the double-flat.

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Re: turn off accidental cancellation

2003-10-08 Thread Rune Zedeler
Steve Grazzini wrote:
By default Lily provides the cancellation -- so this e-flat gets a
natural (to cancel the e-sharp in the signature) and then the flat.
  \key fis \major
  ees
Is there a property that controls this behavior?
Yes.
Reading the documentation of the accidental engraver:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/Accidental_engraver.html

You notice the property "extraNatural" which is exactly what you are looking for.

  \property Score.extraNatural = ##f

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Re: rehearsal marks conflict with bar numbers

2003-10-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 01:40:46 -0700
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Graham Percival wrote:
> >\translator{ \ScoreContext RehearsalMark \override #'padding = #1.5 }
> >
> >That's if you stick it in the \paper{} section.  You need to change it
> >if you want to do that within the \notes{} section.
> >
> Where do I read about how to do that?  I can't seem to get that 
> translator to work with other translators.

I learned about it from the mailing list and the "tips and tricks" section.
I'm not certain if it's introduced in the manual (although there are a few
examples that use it).

Yes, it probably _should_ be introduced in the manual; it's on my big list
of "things I'd like to add".

> to change local padding, etc. for various objects.  The internals helped 
> find the properties after I figured out it is now called Program 
> reference. 
> Any suggestions as to where to read?  Is there an inheritance diagram or 
> some source code I can look at to see how the objects are related?

I don't know of any complete diagram, but many objects say "Grob Foo is a
member of the Bar class, and can contain Oof and Rab grobs".

HTH,
- Graham


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Re: multiple markups when combining voices on single staff

2003-10-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:05:04 +0200
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For dynamic markings, it may be more convenient to define them
> separately from the music, so you can choose when to include them:
> dynamicsA = \notes{ s1 \f \skip 1*10 s1 \pp ...}

How do you handle collisions when you attempt this?

music=\notes{ g4 g }
dynamics=\notes{s4\mp s4\ff}

\score{ \new Staff <<
\music
\dynamics
>>
}


Cheers,
- Graham


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I need support :)

2003-10-08 Thread + victoria +
Hello!  To whom it may concern:
I've downloaded/installed LilyPond for my Windows XP, but when I run the program, a window that looks like MS Dos comes up and says "bash-2.05b$"
Is this supposed to happen?  Pleas let me know what I can do to get it working :)
Thanks,
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Re: I need support :)

2003-10-08 Thread Aaron
Welcome to linux.

your just got a command prompt.

Before you go into shock I would suggest reading the docs.
I also came from a windows background and while it took me a bit of time
to 'catch on' it was more than worth it.
This group is also an above average resource for newbies.

Aaron

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> Hello!  To whom it may concern:
> I've downloaded/installed LilyPond for my Windows XP, but when I run
> the program, a window that looks like MS Dos comes up and says
> "bash-2.05b$"
> Is this supposed to happen?  Pleas let me know what I can do to get it
> working :)
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RE: I need support :)

2003-10-08 Thread Bertalan Fodor
LilyPond runs on CygWin, which is a Linux-like environment on Windows. Many
programs that come from Linux-world can be run on this environment, LilyPond
is one of them.

> and says "bash-2.05b$"
How do you start it? (Actually cygwin should be started with
c:\cygwin\cygwin.bat or bash --login)
If you get this prompt message, something is wrong with Cygwin installation,
because after installing you should get two shortcut icons called Cygwin
Bash Shell (one in the Start Menu - Cygwin, one on the Desktop). After
clicking on them a window appears with a "C"-like icon, a tilde (~) in the
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For invoking lilypond, refer to section 2 of the tutorial
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Running-Li
lyPond.html)

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Re: I need support :)

2003-10-08 Thread neuro

In MS Windows, default the abc.ly file evoke the Cygwin bash; unfortunately
it dosen't work that way, at least it's lilypond abc.ly .

I would rather it open in an editor - I prefer UltraEdit.

Modiry  Windows Explorer / Tool / Option / File type,
make the .LY (add one if there is no .LY ) associate with an editor, or
whatever program or procedure you want.

~ just my personal experience
Good LuUck :)


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