Re: Associating

2003-09-20 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Webfingers writes:

> Associating an text editor for lilypond .ly extention in Windows XP
> here's what I did, on windows xp

> 4. next type in .LY and click Ok

> 8. Now click the Browse button to navigate to the program/editor you
> would like to use to open the .ly files it's now associated and can
> open and save with the .ly extension

Thanks.  I think that the next release will do this automatically.
So what you're saying is that when this .ly->notepad association is
made, it will be easier to save .ly files.

Jan.

Btw, you address bounces, could you please fix that

  "Webfingers" 

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accelerando beams

2003-09-20 Thread Peter Lutek
i need to make some "accelerando beams" - you know, the ones in modern 
notation with two beams starting close together and getting gradually 
further apart towards the end of the beamed group of notes. afaik, this 
is not currently supported in lilypond.

i'm thinking of making this by having two polyphonic eigth note lines 
with the note/stem postitions tweaked to be concurrent. then i would 
make just the notes and stems of one of those lines transparent and 
adjust the beam angle to be sufficiently different from the other one to 
produce the desired effect.

does this sound workable, or has someone already found a better way? if 
someone has already done this, i would love to see code!

many thanks!

-p



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Re: Debian (Woody) packages for Lilypond 1.9.6

2003-09-20 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Now that I have some more time, let me elaborate a bit...

Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> Imagemagick is needed.

As a build dependency, which is missing.

>> autotrace 0.29 is enough.
>
> 0.30 is necessary for mftrace. 0.29 works but crashes sometimes.

I thought the mftrace dependency was artifical, since I
never had any problems.  Since it is also a Build-dep only,
I probably will not compile autotrace.

>> texinfo 4.1 is enough.
>
> 4.1 will fill your HD with 200 copies of music-glossary.info.

Wow, that really seems excessive.  Never noticed, since they
are all different.  I already compiled Texinfo, but did not
install though.  If so, maybe configure should be thought to
complain and do not build the docs.  Likewise for autotrace.

>> g++ 2.95 is enough.
>
> We had many hard-to-trace coredump problems with this GCC version.

Can it be a reason for the multitude of documentation
errors?  I never experienced core dumps.  But did not test
the build either...

Thanks for the info, I can see better now...

Feri.


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Newbie question

2003-09-20 Thread Bernard Meylan
After a time of practice, I wish now to enter a bigger orchestral piece. 
I don't no exactly the right following order; firts the parts and after 
the score? Or otherwise? And what is the best way to make a .ly file so 
"clean" and precisely possible?

I have no see any explanation of this subject on the web. Can somebody 
help my or give a right direction?

Many thanks.

Bernard



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Re: Debian (Woody) packages for Lilypond 1.9.6

2003-09-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> As a build dependency, which is missing.
> 
> >> autotrace 0.29 is enough.
> >
> > 0.30 is necessary for mftrace. 0.29 works but crashes sometimes.
> 
> I thought the mftrace dependency was artifical, since I
> never had any problems.  Since it is also a Build-dep only,
> I probably will not compile autotrace.

you will get clunky PDFs, which is why I think we should make mftrace
mandatory.

> > We had many hard-to-trace coredump problems with this GCC version.
> 
> Can it be a reason for the multitude of documentation
> errors?

No. Disregard the documentation "errors". If something is really
wrong, it will stop with an error.

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strange thread behaviour in 1.9.8??

2003-09-20 Thread plutek
in "tips and tricks" : harmonic.ly 

if the initial c'4 is removed, then the two notes within the <<>> behave
as polyphony rather than as a chord. this is consistent with the new
polyphony and chord syntax, but why does the initial c'4 force chord
behaviour?

if, after removing the initial c'4, i then place the multi-threaded chord
in a \context Voice {} block, then it DOES behave as a chord again.

perhaps, to have a consistent syntax, multithreaded chords should always
be placed in a Voice context now?

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Stanza numbers and lyric hyphens

2003-09-20 Thread Rob V
I’ve found the following code in the mail archives to align stanza numbers, but it 
doesn’t make sense to me.

\score{
  ...
  \paper{
...
\translator{
  \ScoreContext
%%% Choose which one of the following lines you want to uncomment
%  StanzaNumber \override #'break-align-symbol = #'Time_signature
  StanzaNumber \override #'break-align-symbol = #'begin-of-note
}
  }
}

I am using 1.8.1.  Both of these options align the stanza numbers to the right.  I can 
not find the parameter begin-of-note anywhere in the documentation.  Any parameter I 
type in, other than clef, seems to align the stanza numbers to the right.  Also, I can 
not find any examples that use break-align-symbol for any symbol. 

What I’m trying to do is get my stanza numbers closer to the lyrics, but when the 
stanza numbers come up against a hyphenated word, it’s all jammed together.  If I 
can’t move the stanza numbers, could I eliminate the lyric hyphens from the beginning 
of the lyric lines?  If so, how?



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Re: Newbie question

2003-09-20 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:38 am, Bernard Meylan wrote:
> After a time of practice, I wish now to enter a bigger orchestral
> piece. I don't no exactly the right following order; firts the parts
> and after the score? Or otherwise? And what is the best way to make a
> .ly file so "clean" and precisely possible?

Sly is for big projects.  Make your .ly files and then
enter all the notes at once for each section: brass,
strings, etc., in a .sly file in this format:

part1 | part2 | part3 | etc.
part1 | part2 | part3 | etc.
part1 | part2 | part3 | etc.
part1 | part2 | part3 | etc.
part1 | part2 | part3 | etc.
part1 | part2 | part3 | etc.
part1 | part2 | part3 | etc.

$ sly filename brass

creates brass-pt1.ly, brass-pt2.ly, etc.
from filename.sly  Use \include to
put them in your scores.  It is probably
most convenient to put a measure of each
part on each line.

When done, you might write some or all of
the parts into the score with lyinclude
so that you have everything in one huge file.
I don't know whether there is any advantage
to the fact that the parts are already
extracted.

One of the parts could be a dummy with
measure numbers in it.  If you don't
\include it, lilypond will never see it.
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lilypond-1.8.2-1

2003-09-20 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen

I've made a new version of LilyPond available for download.

As a special attraction 1.8.2-1 associates .ly files with an editor.
Double clicking a .ly file will generate the PDF and open your
favourite PDF viewer.  Feel free to share your comments and
suggestions on this new feature.

Enjoy,
Jan.


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Fwd: Re: inversions in lilypond 1.8.2

2003-09-20 Thread Amelie Zapf


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Subject: Re: inversions in lilypond 1.8.2
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:12:41 +0200
From: Amelie Zapf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ray Brohinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all,

as with all discussions about chords, let me throw in my 2¢...

Voice leading is NOT an option. Voice leading is a MUST. But with chord name
notation, it is usually left up to the player. Only if the lowest voice
_in_the_entire_ensemble_, meaning usually the bass player, is to play a 
specific note is this expressly denoted with a slash: F/A. Voice leading in 
the middle voices is strictly up to the player.

I might caution you against inversion support. Especially when you get to
chords with an upper structure beyond the 7th, you cannot speak of
"inversion" anymore, there's just "voicings" in which some notes are left
out, and the rest is usually spaced at distances between thirds and fifths,
with fourths sounding the smoothest.

How should these inversions come out on the paper, anyway?

Albest,

Amy

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about lyrics and extenders

2003-09-20 Thread Ricardo Kirkner



i just cannot get it straight...
 
if i understand correctly when you are writing 
lyrics, and you want to say that a word should be sung over many notes ( a 
melisma ), then you write something like
 
notes: n    
n    n    n    n    
n    n
words:    w 
-     -    - 
-     -    -
 
this puts the first - close to the word  w, 
and the rest - left aligned below the respective note.
 
when you use -- insted of - then you get the same 
result, but the -- are centered between notes.
 
when you use __ after a note, then you get a line 
between that note and the next.
 
but if you want to extend a word for more than 2 
notes, how do you do it?
 
the closest i came was to write something 
like
 
notes:    
n 
n  n 
n  n    
words:    
w   __  _ __ _ __ _ __ _
 
but this just creates the underlines separated from 
each other like __ __ __ __ 
 
what i want to achieve is something like 
__
 
how dow you do that?
 
with regards,
 
ricardo
 
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tremolos shorter than a quarter

2003-09-20 Thread Peter Lutek
is there any plan to support tremolos shorter than a quarter?

i.e.  \repeat "tremolo"  2 { c32 e32 }

i've had occasion to need them, but they generate a warning and end up 
looking like squished-together quarter tremolos with no beam between the 
stems. i'll have to hack a beam somehow for now.

-p

btw - 1.9.8 is excellent. the simplified syntax and new octave 
conventions are quite welcome! it took me a while to clean up after 
running convert-ly on the large score i'm working on, but it was 
definitely worth it. and it's a big relief to be able to split beams 
over lines with only one note hanging on either side of the split. YAY!



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