Re: voices
Hans Kieserman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi-
> Why does Lilypond try to "join" voices?
I wanted to point you to the documentation, but this is missing from
the tutorial, as it seems.
Voices (and other contexts) are identified by name. If you want two
voices, you must give them different names. Two voices on one staff
that have the same name, are the same voice. You can use this to
separate articulation and notes, eg.
Try this:
\score {
\context Staff=sa \notes <
\context Voice=va {
\stemUp
c''4 c''4 c''4 c''4
}
\context Voice=vb {
\stemDown
e''8 e''8 e''8 e''8 e''8 e''8 e''8 e''8
}
>
\paper {}
}
Jan.
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Re: Lyrics spacing with lilypond 1.6.4
Alois Steindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Today I re-installed tetex-tiny several times (due to clashes of > environment variables (TEXMFCNF) settings there where some problems), > until it produced proper output. Now the spacing looks perfect. > I had thaught that lilypond already takes care of the proper spacing > and LaTeX only does the typesetting It does. But LilyPond needs to get the font and character dimensions of the TeX fonts that are used. This goes through the kpathsea library and actual font files. Juggling with two tex distributions is asking for trouble. > Thanks for your valuable hints! I would suggest to use tetex alone; or create two users: where each users only sees one tex distribution (PATH and TEX* variables). Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: more voices
Hans Kieserman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry, I think I understand- the default is to name all of the voices > the same, so lilypond treats both voices as one. Yes. > This default behaviour seems odd, though. If I'm entering note data > in two separate bracketed-voice-contexts, why assume that it's the > same Voice? Nothing is assumed, the names are simply the same: "" -> same voice. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: PS output looks like junk
I had a quick look at texconfig but wasn't sure what to do - which options do I select? C > Are you using tetex, and is it configured to output PS higher than > 300dpi??? That could be an explanation as to why the notes output dotty. > . . . > > You can change this configuration using the texconfig utility. . . .(if > you are running under *nix enviroments. . . . ) > > > > ___ > Lilypond-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: more voices
- Original Message - > > in two separate bracketed-voice-contexts, why assume that it's the > > same Voice? > > Nothing is assumed, the names are simply the same: "" -> same voice. > > Jan. Agreed- nothing is assumed, although from a theoretical standpoint everything is a design decision. (Sorry, I'm being too picky.) Could this behaviour be made explicit in the docs? I would like to suggest a code change or adjustable property setting (to allow the assumption that different bracketed Voices are "named" differently) as a possible "improvement"- I know I'm going to lose : ), but it's one of those usability compromises. It is much more theoretically pure to have the default name for a Voice be "", but software could provide shortcuts that save time and typing. Anyway. Got it now, thank you. Hans -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Margins with lilypond-book 1.6.5 (was: Alignment...)
Hi.
The code
\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
\begin{document}
\begin{lilypond}
\score{
\notes {
c' c' c' c'}}
\end{lilypond}
\end{document}
give me, after lilypond-book 1.6.5 and latex,
Overfull \hbox (14.99867pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 357--390
In fact, the score is too much right placed.
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Re: Multi-measure rests
This is a known limitation. The workaround could be used in most
situations, but if you for example want a fermata centered exactly
above the rest, it's extremely clumsy.
This fairly high on my wish list for new features.
/Mats
> It doesn't seem to be possible to attach articulations to multi-measure
> rests.
> Is this by design? Although it is possible to work around this by using
> skips.
>
> \score {
> \notes {
> \time 3/4
> R2.^"Allegro" | | r2.^"Allegro"
> }
> }
>
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Re: PS output looks like junk
This is not the problem. If you followed the discussion, you'd see that Colin produced a Postscript file which he claims looks weird on his screen but fine on printer. His file looks fine over here. Check yourself at http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg02497.html I have converted his PS file to PDF (http://www.s3.kth.se/~matsb/oldmrs.pdf) so Colin should be able to verify if it was a problem with his Ghostview installation, but apparently it looks strange also when he uses Acrobat reader. I'm totally confused, since the handling of embedded fonts in Ghostscript and Acrobat should be completely independent. Is it possible that both Ghostscript and Acrobat fail to view embedded fonts correctly because of some weird installation of the X window system? Colin, have you tried to view the Postscript or PDF files at http://lilypond.org/stable/examples.html ? Do you see the same problems or do those files look OK? /Mats > I had a quick look at texconfig but wasn't sure what to do - which options > do I select? > C > > Are you using tetex, and is it configured to output PS higher than > > 300dpi??? That could be an explanation as to why the notes output dotty. > > . . . > > > > You can change this configuration using the texconfig utility. . . .(if > > you are running under *nix enviroments. . . . ) > > > > > > > > ___ > > Lilypond-user mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > > > > ___ > Lilypond-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: PS output looks like junk
Mats Bengtsson schrieb: >This is not the problem. If you followed the discussion, you'd see >that Colin produced a Postscript file which he claims looks weird >on his screen but fine on printer. His file looks fine over here. >Check yourself at >http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg02497.html > >I have converted his PS file to PDF >(http://www.s3.kth.se/~matsb/oldmrs.pdf) so Colin should be able >to verify if it was a problem with his Ghostview installation, >but apparently it looks strange also when he uses Acrobat reader. > >I'm totally confused, since the handling of embedded fonts in >Ghostscript and Acrobat should be completely independent. >Is it possible that both Ghostscript and Acrobat fail to view >embedded fonts correctly because of some weird installation of >the X window system? > > Hello, I have looked at the ps-file and it looks fine. Maybe one would prefer to use the pfa-fonts instead of pkfiles to become more resolution independent. Colin might try to generate some graphic file from his ghostview screen (using some option like convert to pngmono) so that we know what he is complaining about. We did have some problem with viewing PostScript files with ghostview several years ago, when we didn't have sufficient graphic memory. Maybe he should tell us more about his setup and try to view the files at a friend's computer. Best regards Alois > > ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
cadenza question
Hi I have a Solo + SATB + Piano piece, (in 4/4) and in the last measure the soloist has a cadenza of 6 beats while the chorus sustains the word "home". Here's the solo notes: \cadenzaOn bes8 ( des4 ces8 \cadenzaOff [bes8 f8 as8 ges8] [as,8 ) f'8] [es8 () des8] for the chorus i had to use | e1 ~ e2 | to complete the 6 beats, can i make that one note? \cadenzaOn e1 \cadenzaOff doesn't work does anybody know if it's at all possible? thanks, Jule Jule Slootbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cadenza question
The \cadenzaOn/Off just tell Lilypond to stop inserting bar lines,
the rhythms in the different staves still has to match.
What you could do is to say \times 2/3{...} in the solo part
(don't forget to turn off the tuplet numbers and brackets).
An alternative is to say e1*3/2 in all the other parts.
/Mats
> Hi
> I have a Solo + SATB + Piano piece, (in 4/4) and in the last measure
> the soloist has a cadenza of 6 beats while the chorus sustains the word
> "home".
> Here's the solo notes:
>
> \cadenzaOn bes8 ( des4 ces8 \cadenzaOff [bes8 f8 as8 ges8] [as,8 ) f'8]
> [es8 () des8]
>
> for the chorus i had to use
> | e1 ~ e2 | to complete the 6 beats, can i make that one note?
> \cadenzaOn e1 \cadenzaOff doesn't work
> does anybody know if it's at all possible?
> thanks,
>
> Jule
>
> Jule Slootbeek
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Re: PS output looks like junk
Mats, I'm getting weird results as well. PS and PDF output look fine. DVI output looks VERY weird. The fonts look square. (but not "dotty" as in low resolution dotty, it looks squigly, or something like that) PDF and PDF output looks flawless. it could be his Tetex installation. If he is viewing the PS output using Xdvi, it might not work correctly (on my system, there's always something missing when use Xdvi to view the PS output!) Colin, 1. Run texconfig. 2. Select the MODE menu, and select one of the drivers that have resolution higher than 300dpi. Hit enter on the OK button. The config utility will run some things. Exit the menu (if you need to exit it) 3. Select the XDVI menu. Select MODE menu again, and it should ask if you want to set it for the same driver in Step 2. Select yes. If it doesn't ask the question, you should select the same driver you selected in Step2. 4. Select the Return Menu afterwords (it should take you back to the first menu. 5. Select DVIPS menu, Select GLOBAL menu, Select the papersize you'll be using most often, then select the MODE menu, and repeat the driver selection that you did in step 2/3. Return and exit. Try typeset your score again, and tell us what happens. Fabio. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: diamond+default
On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 20:51:22 + David Bobroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the following one measure extract I need a diamond shaped notehead on > the f-sharp. Adding \property Voice.NoteHead \set #'style = #'diamond > before the f-sharp and then reverting to \property Voice.NoteHead \set > #'style = #'default immediately after does not work. Obviously I'm doing > something wrong. How do I achieve this? Artificial harmonics for a viola? :) You need to use threads. See http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg01962.html Cheers, - Graham ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
diamond+default
In the following one measure extract I need a diamond shaped notehead on
the f-sharp. Adding \property Voice.NoteHead \set #'style = #'diamond
before the f-sharp and then reverting to \property Voice.NoteHead \set
#'style = #'default immediately after does not work. Obviously I'm doing
something wrong. How do I achieve this?
Thanks,
David Bobroff
\score {
\context Staff <
\clef "alto"
\notes \relative c'' {
\time 4/4
}>
\paper {
papersize = "a4"
}
}
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Re: more voices
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> Agreed- nothing is assumed, although from a theoretical standpoint everything is a
>design decision. (Sorry, I'm being too picky.)
>
> Could this behaviour be made explicit in the docs? I would like to
> suggest a code change or adjustable property setting (to allow the
> assumption that different bracketed Voices are "named" differently)
> as a possible "improvement"- I know I'm going to lose : ), but it's
> one of those usability compromises. It is much more theoretically
> pure to have the default name for a Voice be "", but software could
> provide shortcuts that save time and typing.
why not simply use automatic voices?
<
{ ... } \\
{ .. }
>
this also gets stem directions correct.
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Re: PS output looks like junk
> Mats, > > I'm getting weird results as well. PS and PDF output look fine. DVI > output looks VERY weird. The fonts look square. (but not "dotty" as in > low resolution dotty, it looks squigly, or something like that) What DVI file are you refering to? Those produced on your own system or the one in Colin's email? Since the font is updated every now and then, a .dvi file in general is only valid as long as you have the same Lilypond version installed as was used to produce it. If you have the problem on your own installation, please read in the installation instructions on how to get rid of old font files when upgrading Lilypond. > PDF and PDF output looks flawless. it could be his Tetex installation. > If he is viewing the PS output using Xdvi, it might not work correctly > (on my system, there's always something missing when use Xdvi to view > the PS output!) ??? How can you view a postscript file with Xdvi (unless you have included it as an .eps in another TeX document)? > > > Colin, I maintain that this has nothing to do with the problem Colin describes. You have verified yourself that the PS and PDF files look just fine (except for the fuzzy look of the PDF file due to the bitmapped fonts). /Mats > 1. Run texconfig. > > 2. Select the MODE menu, and select one of the drivers that have > resolution higher than 300dpi. Hit enter on the OK button. The config > utility will run some things. Exit the menu (if you need to exit it) > > 3. Select the XDVI menu. Select MODE menu again, and it should ask if > you want to set it for the same driver in Step 2. Select yes. If it > doesn't ask the question, you should select the same driver you selected > in Step2. > > 4. Select the Return Menu afterwords (it should take you back to the > first menu. > > 5. Select DVIPS menu, Select GLOBAL menu, Select the papersize you'll be > using most often, then select the MODE menu, and repeat the driver > selection that you did in step 2/3. > > Return and exit. Try typeset your score again, and tell us what happens. > > Fabio. > ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Key sigs & repeats
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Re:font magnification for Easy Notation
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Can't compile documents
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> Hi, I've installed LilyPond 1.6.3 on RedHat 7.3 successfully from the source,
> but couldn't "make web" and got error messages like :
> gs invoked by "system()" in lilypond-book.py line 1066 always
> devours terribly much CPU time and makes my harddisk very busy only to fail,
> though I can invoke gs from terminal with the same command in the same
Sorry, mystified. Sounds like GS is swapping (you can check with
`top'). Are you running the latest version of GS ?
>
> -
> ("HaraKiri" sounds rather funny to the Japanese as
> "BellyCut" to the British, but it's a good term for disappearing staffs,
> I suppose. :-) )
Yes, I've been told it's really Seppuku, but the name hara-kiri is
better known.
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Re: warning during compilation
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chord symbols
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threads
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Re[2]: chord spread over two staves (piano)
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> MB> Others can provide more details, I've never done this
> MB> myself.
>
> Here's how I do it (output in `preview.png') -- of course it must be
> place in context:
Complete snippet (and slightly shorter: )
\header {
texidoc = "Cross staff stems
Unfortunately, there is no support for putting chords across staves.
You can get this result by increasing the length of the stem in the
lower stave so it reaches the stem in the upper stave, or vice versa.
@cindex Cross staff stems
@cindex Stems, cross staff
"
}
stemExtend = \once \property Voice.Stem \override #'length = #22
%% following reqs 1.7.1 or better.
noFlag = \once \property Voice.Stem \override #'flag-style = #'no-flag
\score { \notes
\context PianoStaff
< \context Staff = up {
\stemDown
\stemExtend
f'4
\stemExtend
\noFlag
f'8 }
\context Staff = down {
\clef bass
a4 a8 }
>
\paper { linewidth = -1.0 }
}
I've added this to 1.7.1 CVS
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Grouping notes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I am writing a paper on musical analysis. In there I need score-examples
> where the notes are grouped together. Normally this is done via a horizontal
> bracket underneath the score. As the exmples are musically quit simple I started
> by using slurs. But I ran into two problems:
> It seems that I cannot use slurs to bind notes and rests. And second (which is
> more severe) I need a grouping-hierachy. So I need to be able to do more than
> one level of grouping...
>c c rc c r c c r c c r <--- notes
> |--| |--| |-| |-| <--- grouping level 1
> |-||---| <--- grouping level 2
> || <--- grouping level 3
>
lilypond 1.7.2 CVS,
\notes
{
c4-\groupOpen-\groupOpen-\groupOpen
c4-\groupClose
c4-\groupOpen
c4-\groupClose-\groupClose
c4-\groupOpen
c4-\groupClose-\groupClose
}
(I thought it would be easy, and indeed, it was, but it still took me
3 quarters of an hour to get it working.)
Anyway, it's a tad late, but I hope you appreciate it.
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