Re: Artificial string harmonics question
Citat Chris Lipe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> been able to figure out how to get a note to have a diamond-shaped
> notehead. I'm currently using Lilypond 1.4.8.
\score {
\context Voice \notes <
\clef F
\context Thread = main {
c8 d e f g2 a1
}
\context Thread = arti {
\property Thread.NoteHead \set #'style = #'diamond
f8 g a b c'2 d'1
}
>
}
see /input/regression/note-head-style.ly for list of available styles.
Notice that I use thread contexts in order to put the different note heads on
the same stems. Thread contexts are contained in voice contexts just like voice
contexts are contained in staff contexts. This means that you can have several
threads in the same voice and hence put them on the same stems.
If you dont need that you can use voice-contexts instead.
-Rune
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Re: Artificial string harmonics question
Usually artificial harmonics are noted 8va with regular noteheads. You mean natural, not artificial harmonics. Chris Lipe wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if there was a way to notate artificial string harmonics > in Lilypond. This consists of a normal shaped note with a > diamond-shaped note head above it (usually a fourth above). I haven't > been able to figure out how to get a note to have a diamond-shaped > notehead. I'm currently using Lilypond 1.4.8. > > Thanks. > -- Information is not knowledge. Belief is not truth. Indoctrination is not teaching. Tradition is not evidence. David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Artificial string harmonics question
On February 21, 2002 07:43, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > Usually artificial harmonics are noted 8va with regular noteheads. Not for string instruments. You need to know which note to put your first finger on, and which note to put your fourth finger on (almost always a fourth or fifth higher) (or sometimes thumb and third finger, for cello). How could you show that with a single note? - Graham Percival ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Artificial string harmonics question
Again, an artificial harmonic is one made by stopping a note with the left hand and touching the string at the center of the vibrating portion when playing it. Since the pitch obtained is raised one octave, 8va notation gives the correct pitch, and there is no reason to use a diamond shaped note. A natural harmonic is played on an open string, and often it sounds as some overtone other than octave. Hence the diamond shaped note is appropriate, because it is a standard usage in music that the placement of such a notehead on the staff does not indicate the pitch, but indicates something else, such as a string, a fingering, or which drum to play. In music for guitar, a fret number is often given with the diamond shaped note. With non=fretted stringed instruments, a small note on the same stem is supposed to give the true pitch. Graham Percival wrote: > On February 21, 2002 07:43, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > >>Usually artificial harmonics are noted 8va with regular noteheads. >> > > Not for string instruments. You need to know which note to put your > first finger on, and which note to put your fourth finger on (almost > always a fourth or fifth higher) (or sometimes thumb and third finger, > for cello). How could you show that with a single note? > > - Graham Percival > > ___ > Lilypond-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > -- Information is not knowledge. Belief is not truth. Indoctrination is not teaching. Tradition is not evidence. David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Artificial string harmonics question
Please, notice that in violin playing one needs often to note 3 pitches:
1. for the basis note (first finger) :
this note is written with normal shape
2. for the "touch" note (?) = often the 4th finger, but not necessarily :
one can get harmonics with "major third" placing ;
this note is writtent by a diamond shape
3. for the resulting note
which is written like a cue note
I suggest to create a lilypond command (in a TeX like notation) :
\harmonicartif{ #1#2 #3}{ }
In lilyponding, I see a way to write it like a chord.
< \shape1{pitch} \shape2{pitch} \shape3{pitch} >
(PS : I apologize for my bad English)
rb
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Re: Artificial string harmonics question
On February 21, 2002 13:56, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > Again, an artificial harmonic is one made by stopping a note > with the left hand and touching the string at the center > of the vibrating portion when playing it. Since the pitch obtained > is raised one octave, 8va notation gives the correct pitch, and there > is no reason to use a diamond shaped note. Not true for violin, viola, and cello. Most artificial harmonics (for those instruments) are created by stopping a note and then touching the string a fourth or a fifth above the stopped note. For example, if the bottom finger holds down an e and the higher finger touches a fifth above it, you get an e''. Using this method, you can get a harmonic sound on any arbitrary note; you can play scales, melodies, whatever. Check out Shostakovich Piano Trio #1 (first movement); it begins with a long cello solo all in artifial harmonics. > In music for guitar, a fret number is often given with the diamond > shaped note. With non=fretted stringed instruments, a small note on > the same stem is supposed to give the true pitch. It looks as though "artificial harmonics" means something different for guitars. I don't know if the cello-artificial harmonics are possible to do on a guitar; if not, that would explain the difference. :) - Graham Percival, cello teacher. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Artificial string harmonics question
Am Freitag 22 Februar 2002 00:18 schrieb Graham Percival: > It looks as though "artificial harmonics" means something different for > guitars. I don't know if the cello-artificial harmonics are possible > to do on a guitar; if not, that would explain the difference. :) True indeed. On the guitar, the artificial harmonic is created by touching the string in the middle (an octave higher than stopped) with the right hand and plucking simultaneously. Touching a fourth higher makes no sense on the guitar, because the resulting sound would be too soft and quaint, as it's a plucked and not a bowed instrument. Now here's a mean one that throws me off completely: How do you notate the sound often heard by a jazz guitarist that sounds like the basic fretted note and the artificial harmonic together? It is created by striking the note very hard with a pick held between thumb and 1st finger of the right hand and at the same time, touching the string extremely lightly at 1/4 of its way from the bridge with the 3rd finger (takes a lot of balance). Regards, Amy -- Louey & Amy Soul, Jazz & Gospel from Berlin www.louey-amy.de ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
