Building a Libtool 2 package with libltdl from 1.5

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hello,

The Guile project is considering moving from Libtool 1.5 to 2.2.  We
noticed subtle incompatibilities when people tried to compile Guile
tarballs (which use Libtool 1.5 up to now) with  from Libtool
2.2 [0].

The question now is: will people be able to build tarballs that come
with Libtool 2.2 with  from Libtool 1.5?

Thanks,
Ludovic.

[0] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel/7876



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Re: just how much autotools got faster, or: just forget about dolt

[Bob Friesenhahn]

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Ralf Wildenhues wrote:


I doubt that the version Ralf tested is dramatically faster than the
already released libtool 2.2.6.  There is a point of diminishing
returns.


Actually, current git has a few more improvements, and I have a couple
more in mind.  I haven't measure the relative merit of them, though.


My point is that waiting for the extra rewards of 2.2.7 is not a valid 
reason to not upgrade ASAP to 2.2.X since 1.2.6 is already 
dramatically better than any 1.X.X release.  Spread the word.


Bob
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Re: Building a Libtool 2 package with libltdl from 1.5

[Bob Friesenhahn]

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Ludovic Courtès wrote:


The question now is: will people be able to build tarballs that come
with Libtool 2.2 with  from Libtool 1.5?


I don't think there was ever any intention for libtool 2.2.X to work 
with libltdl from libtool 1.5.X.  If libltdl is not bundled with the 
package, then it should be possible to use an already installed 
libltdl from libtool 1.5.X.


I am suspicious that the way libtool 2.2.X bundles libltdl may 
sometimes fail if a libltdl from 1.5.X is already installed and the 
user does not request to use the bundled libltdl.


Bob
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/
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Re: Building a Libtool 2 package with libltdl from 1.5

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>>
>> The question now is: will people be able to build tarballs that come
>> with Libtool 2.2 with  from Libtool 1.5?
>
> I don't think there was ever any intention for libtool 2.2.X to work
> with libltdl from libtool 1.5.X.  If libltdl is not bundled with the
> package, then it should be possible to use an already installed
> libltdl from libtool 1.5.X.

What do you mean exactly by "should"?  That it hasn't been tested,
right?

(Guile does not bundle libltdl.)

Thanks,
Ludo'.



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Re: Building a Libtool 2 package with libltdl from 1.5

[Bob Friesenhahn]

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Ludovic Courtès wrote:

I don't think there was ever any intention for libtool 2.2.X to work
with libltdl from libtool 1.5.X.  If libltdl is not bundled with the
package, then it should be possible to use an already installed
libltdl from libtool 1.5.X.


What do you mean exactly by "should"?  That it hasn't been tested,
right?


It does actually work because then libltdl is just a library like any 
other library.


Bob
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/
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Re: Building a Libtool 2 package with libltdl from 1.5

[Ralf Wildenhues]

Hello Ludovic,

* Ludovic Courtès wrote on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:38:53AM CET:
> The Guile project is considering moving from Libtool 1.5 to 2.2.  We
> noticed subtle incompatibilities when people tried to compile Guile
> tarballs (which use Libtool 1.5 up to now) with  from Libtool
> 2.2 [0].
> 
> The question now is: will people be able to build tarballs that come
> with Libtool 2.2 with  from Libtool 1.5?

> [0] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel/7876

Please describe those limitations, this URL is not accessible here ATM.

Could be the same as those described here?


Cheers,
Ralf


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