Re: Migration to Git?

2007-10-01 Thread NightStrike
On 9/30/07, Benoit SIGOURE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> several GNU projects (including autoconf) have moved to Git, is there

Just curious... why git over svn?


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Re: Migration to Git?

2007-10-01 Thread Benoit SIGOURE

On Oct 1, 2007, at 8:59 AM, NightStrike wrote:


On 9/30/07, Benoit SIGOURE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,
several GNU projects (including autoconf) have moved to Git, is there


Just curious... why git over svn?


Instead of going in lengthy threads, I think you should simply read  
these threads:


http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2006-12/msg00018.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2007-09/msg00116.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/autoconf/2007-09/msg00053.html

AFAIK, one of the main reasons is that Git has a git-cvsserver (IOW,  
you can access the Git repository through a CVS server) which is  
useful to provide (mostly read-only) access to the repositories to  
legacy platforms where neither Git nor SVN is available.  Another  
major reason is that Savannah added support for Git and not for SVN.


And, honestly, (my opinion here) Git fits better the needs of  
projects such as that of the FSF because everyone can very easily  
clone the entire history of a project and maintain their own patches  
(many people do that, at least during the time they're developing  
some features) and then submit them to the mailing lists for review  
by the (few) maintainers out there.  SVN just doesn't fit with this  
model.  And it has uberbroken branching/merging/tagging implementations.


Cheers,

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Re: Migration to Git?

2007-10-01 Thread Benoit SIGOURE

On Oct 1, 2007, at 2:54 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:


On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, Benoit SIGOURE wrote:


Hello,
several GNU projects (including autoconf) have moved to Git, is  
there any similar plan for automake and libtool?  Is anyone in  
charge of this?  Help needed?


I think that the current priority for libtool *must* be to finish  
the first 2.X release.  Any distraction (regardless of apparent  
merit) will simply postpone that release even further.


Yes, that's right.  When will this happen?  Is there a TODO list of  
things that are still to be done before we can release 2.X?  I'd be  
glad to help if I can.


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Question about shlibpath_overrides_runpath / relinking

2007-10-01 Thread Duft Markus
Hi together!

I have a question about relinking. I'm porting libtool 1.5.24 to a
compiler which uses microsoft's cl.exe in the background. I have all
libtool tests passing right now.

Still i feel, that relinking should not be neccessary with my compiler
(it supports hardcoding correctly, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is my shlibpath_var,
and it is looked at after the hardcoded runpath to find libraries), it
just eats up a lot of time. Now, Settings shlibpath_overrides_runpath to
yes results in everything working fine, except the
build-relink[2].test(s), which now both fail, since libtool is able to
detect the false setting for shlibpath_overrides_runpath.

Is there any other way to tell libtool, that it should not relink, which
does not break anything else.

Thanks in advance,
Cheers, Markus

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Re: Migration to Git?

2007-10-01 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Benoit SIGOURE wrote:

I think that the current priority for libtool *must* be to finish the first 
2.X release.  Any distraction (regardless of apparent merit) will simply 
postpone that release even further.


Yes, that's right.  When will this happen?  Is there a TODO list of things 
that are still to be done before we can release 2.X?  I'd be glad to help if 
I can.


Yes, there is a TODO list.  Gary is working on the remaining big task 
(deciding how to build/use libltdl in a project).  Since he is likely 
to strongly prefer git, then this could serve as extra incentive to 
get the task completed. :-)


Bob
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/



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Re: Question about shlibpath_overrides_runpath / relinking

2007-10-01 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello Markus,

* Duft Markus wrote on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 01:55:55PM CEST:
> 
> Still i feel, that relinking should not be neccessary with my compiler
[...]
> Is there any other way to tell libtool, that it should not relink, which
> does not break anything else.

AFAIR we fixed that in CVS HEAD, for MinGW/MSYS.  No, I'm sorry I
don't remember exactly, but grepping ChangeLog entries, the change
on 2004-10-12 sounds like it could do the trick.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Ralf


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