[lfs-support] /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread joel kammet
Greetings.

Working my way through my first build of LFS 7.4.  I'm wondering, after 
building and installing all of the packages in Chapter 6, can the /tools 
directory be deleted?  I see that find and strip are used in Section 6.65, but 
we have new copies of those in /bin and /usr/bin.

Also, regarding backing up prior to stripping, is it ok to exclude all of dev, 
proc, and sys from the backup.  I'm thinking something like:
tar --exclude=dev --exclude=proc --exclude=sys --exclude=sources \
    -cjvPf lfs-7.4.tar.bz2 /mnt/lfs

Is that reasonable?

Thanks,
Joel
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Re: [lfs-support] /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread joel kammet
But why do you still use /tools/bin/  for bash, file, & strip on page 202?





 From: Bruce Dubbs 
To: joel kammet ; LFS Support List 
 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] /tools directory
 

joel kammet wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> Working my way through my first build of LFS 7.4.  I'm wondering,
> after building and installing all of the packages in Chapter 6, can
> the /tools directory be deleted?  I see that find and strip are used
> in Section 6.65, but we have new copies of those in /bin and
> /usr/bin.

Yes.  See Section 6.66. Cleaning Up.

> Also, regarding backing up prior to stripping, is it ok to exclude
> all of dev, proc, and sys from the backup.  I'm thinking something
> like: tar --exclude=dev --exclude=proc --exclude=sys
> --exclude=sources \ -cjvPf lfs-7.4.tar.bz2 /mnt/lfs
>
> Is that reasonable?

Yes.  You don't want to back up any virtual filesystems.  Exclude /run, 
/proc, /sys, and /dev.  Excluding sources is optional.  You can always 
recover those.

   -- Bruce


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[lfs-support] Fw: Re: /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread joel kammet

--- On Mon, 2/17/14, Bruce Dubbs  wrote:

> From: Bruce Dubbs 
> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] /tools directory
> To: "joel kammet" , "LFS Support List" 
> 
> Date: Monday, February 17, 2014, 10:34 PM
> joel kammet wrote:
> > But why do you still use /tools/bin/  for
> bash, file, & strip on page 202?
> 
> Please don't top post.
> 
> What is on page 202?  We work from section
> numbers/names, not the pdf. 
> The page
> numbers can change, sometimes radically during a nightly
> build.
> 
>    -- Bruce
> 
> 


Sorry.   Section 6.65, Stripping Again uses /tools/bin/bash when re-entering 
the chroot environment and then /tools/bin/find and /tools/bin/strip.  I don't 
suppose it matters, but I was just wondering if there was any particular reason 
that you don't use the bash, find and strip that have been installed in the new 
permanent directories.

- Joel
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[lfs-support] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread joel kammet
--- On Mon, 2/17/14, Bruce Dubbs  wrote:

> 
> That's so
> we don't operate (strip) on a running program.  After
> that's 
> done, look at 6.66. Cleaning
> Up.  At that point we are done with /tools.
> 

I see - finally :)

Thanks again.
-Joel
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[lfs-support] init script question

2014-02-20 Thread joel kammet
I've been wondering about the case statement in S00mountvirtfs that mounts the 
virtual filesystems.


  if ! mountpoint /run >/dev/null; then
 mount /run || failed=1

and similar commands for proc sys and dev.


I understand what the mountpoint lines are doing, but "mount /run" puzzles me.


There are no fstab entries for these filesystems, so I would expect "mount 
[device] [mountpoint]".


Why does that command work without the [device] parameter?

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Re: [lfs-support] init script question

2014-02-20 Thread joel kammet
>> I understand what the mountpoint lines are doing, but "mount /run" puzzles 
>> me.

>> 
>> 
>> There are no fstab entries for these filesystems, so I would expect "mount 
>> [device]
>> [mountpoint]".
>>

> There are.
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter08/fstab.html

> "tmpfs          /run         tmpfs    defaults            0     0"

Thanks.  Should've occurred to me to read ahead.

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