Re: 5.34. Stripping - some unable to copy errors

2005-05-17 Thread Robert Russell
On 5/16/05, Peter Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Some unable to copy errors.
> Could someone please check that this looks OK?
> The strip command has caused problems before.
> 
> Is there a check that can be done after this
> section to verify?
> Or is this `the test'?:
> "If you can build and install Glibc, you can build and install the
> rest too."
> 
> Host FC4T3 (Rawhide)
> Linux From Scratch - Version SVN-20050428
> Chapter 5. Constructing a Temporary System
>  5.34. Stripping
> 
> strip: Warning: '/tools/lib/expect5.43' is not an ordinary file
> strip: Warning: '/tools/lib/gcc' is not an ordinary file
> strip: Warning: '/tools/lib/gconv' is not an ordinary file
> strip: Warning: '/tools/lib/gettext' is not an ordinary file
> strip: unable to copy file '/tools/lib/libtcl8.4.so' reason:
> Permission denied
> strip: Warning: '/tools/lib/locale' is not an ordinary file
> strip: Warning: '/tools/lib/perl5' is not an ordinary file
> strip: Warning: '/tools/lib/tcl8.4' is not an ordinary file
> strip: Warning: '/tools/lib/terminfo' is not an ordinary file

> strip: unable to copy file '/tools/bin/strip' reason: Text file busy

Most of the errors that you listed are covered under this comment from
the LFS book

"The last of the above commands will skip some twenty files, reporting
that it does not recognize their file format. Most of these are
scripts instead of binaries."

I am not familliar with the "not an ordinary file" and "permission
denied" error messages, however.
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Re: Bashism in LFS-bootscripts

2005-05-19 Thread Robert Russell
On 5/19/05, Bryan Kadzban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:38:30PM +0100, Matthew Burgess wrote:
> > Both '[' and 'test' are bash builtins as well as
> > binaries in /bin.  Is there anyway we can force the bootscripts to
> > choose the implementations in /bin without having to rely on potentially
> > non-SUSV3 conformant shell builtin implementations?  Obviously we could
> > call /bin/{[,test]} explicitly though that's really ugly.
> 
> We could use the "enable" builtin to disable the builtin versions in
> bash:
> 
> enable -n test [
> 
> I'm (again) not sure about other shells, though...



Wouldn't the binaries in /bin be used if the shell did not have builtins?

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Re: OpenOffice 1.9 - beta late than never

2005-06-13 Thread Robert Russell
On 6/10/05, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> DJ Lucas wrote:
> > Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> >
> >>DJ Lucas wrote:
> 
> >>>real725m59.836s
> >>>user559m34.396s
> >>>sys 53m8.695s
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] src680-m108]#
> 
> >>what is your binutils time?
> 
> > 265 Seconds
> 
> Wow.  164+ SBU?  I think that sets the record.  It may be more than all
> of the rest of BLFS combined.
> 
>   -- Bruce

12+ hour build time for Open Office, and KDE and Gnome are considered
to be bloatware by some people, being compatible with Microsoft really
does take some high grade hardware.

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Re: [RFC] New LFS Website

2005-07-05 Thread Robert Russell
On 7/5/05, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Everyone:
> 
> The LFS Website Team has been working on a new website for the Linux
>  From Scratch community. We have shown it briefly before, but it is now
> nearly fully functional and filled with content. Our goal with this new
> site was to produce a simple and readable site that is easy to navigate
> and easy to maintain. You'll notice that we endeavored to greatly reduce
> the number of possible links on one page and lead the user through the
> site by logical grouping of data.
> 
> Apart from just a redesign in the layout of the site, much has been done
> in rewriting the backend struture, to reduce maintainance overhead and
> to allow a more dynamic and "up-to-date" website.
> 
> Please visit this new proposed site (follow the link below) and reply to
> the website mailing list with your thoughts or comments. We would like
> to hear from the community as to whether they would like to see this new
> design implemented.
> 
> http://beta.linuxfromscratch.org/
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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I like the new look in Mozilla, I haven't tried it yet in Links2 (my
default 1'st web browser for new systems, Mozilla is later or not at
all depending on system function)

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Re: GCC4 Build Issue

2005-08-02 Thread Robert Russell
On 8/2/05, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeremy Huntwork wrote:



> > In any case, what would be the difference between what you're trying to
> > accomplish with a sed and the results of something like:
> >
> > make CFLAGS="-g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer"
> 
> Still curious about the difference of the sed vs. the above command...
> 

The sed make the changes to the optimisations permanent, while the
environmental variable is temporary, it doesn't stay if you throw the
power switch, accidentaly kill the shell, or do something similar. If
you forget to use the CFLAGS="-g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer" with make
install you may possibly have something not built with those
optimisations, or at least my observation is that make install on gcc
seems to compile some more stuff.

If I have my conclusions wrong then correct them.

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Re: [RFC] Add CrackLib to Chapter 6 LFS

2005-08-05 Thread Robert Russell
On 8/5/05, Chris Staub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Randy McMurchy wrote:
> > Archaic wrote these words on 08/05/05 00:18 CST:
> >
> >>BTW, out of the 70-odd boxes I manage, I would use (and do use) cracklib
> >>on exactly one of them. That box also uses PAM, so even it would be
> >>moot.
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry. What keeps users from setting their passwords to "password"?
> > BTW, PAM doesn't do password checking without a dictionary such as
> > CrackLib, so I don't really see what your point is.
> >
> 
> Why keep them from setting their passwords to "password" if that's what
> they want to do?

Scenario where not having strong passwords can be a problem involving
only the default LFS tools:

you finish building LFS on your computer, and decide to celebrate by
going out to eat, a thief breaks into your house and steals your
computer.

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Re: [RFC] Add CrackLib to Chapter 6 LFS

2005-08-05 Thread Robert Russell
On 8/4/05, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Something I've thought about for a long time, and now that CrackLib
> is a maintained and stable package, I would like to propose that the
> community consider adding this package to Chapter 6 in the LFS build.
> 

I say go ahead and put it in the LFS book.

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wiki.linuxfromscratch.org time out problems

2006-01-23 Thread Robert Russell
I have been following the recent discussion on the lfs-dev list about
trac and I have only one issue. I cannot connect to
wiki.linuxfromscratch.org:80 from my home, at college I can connect,
my college is about 30 miles from home, I keep getting "The connection
has timed out" messages. This happens in both IE6, wget 1.10.2 binary
for Windows, and Firefox-1.5, and has been occuring since I tried to
access the first test setup of the wiki at wiki.linuxfromscratch.org,
within a few days of the link being placed on the mailing list.

This is not a problem of getting packets to wiki.linuxfromscratch.org.
I can ping it successfully with average times under 50ms. Here is the
output from tracert:

tracert wiki.linuxfromscratch.org

Tracing route to anduin.linuxfromscratch.org [66.139.76.201]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  125 ms 8 ms 8 ms  10.247.0.1
  2 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms  h249.7.249.24.cable.mcls.cablerocket.net [24.249
.7.249]
  3 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms  h241.7.249.24.cable.mcls.cablerocket.net [24.249
.7.241]
  414 ms20 ms16 ms  ip68-12-15-73.ok.ok.cox.net [68.12.15.73]
  532 ms30 ms19 ms  68.12.14.60
  619 ms19 ms19 ms  mtc3dsrc01-gew0303.rd.ok.cox.net [68.12.14.5]
  722 ms23 ms20 ms  mtc3bbrc01-pos0101.rd.ok.cox.net [68.1.0.104]
  828 ms25 ms28 ms  dllsbbrc02-pos0201.rd.dl.cox.net [68.1.0.107]
  9 *  115 ms * dalsbbrj01-so030003.r2.dl.cox.net [68.1.0.137]
 1036 ms29 ms30 ms  eqix.dlfw.twtelecom.net [206.223.118.36]
 1129 ms28 ms40 ms  core-02-so-1-0-0-0.dlfw.twtelecom.net [66.192.24
6.52]
 1232 ms34 ms33 ms  dist-01-so-1-0-0-0.snan.twtelecom.net [66.192.24
6.22]
 1346 ms *   33 ms  hagg-01-ge-0-3-0-510.snan.twtelecom.net [66.192.
246.137]
 1433 ms33 ms33 ms  64.132.228.194
 15 *** Request timed out.
 1633 ms37 ms31 ms  anduin.linuxfromscratch.org [66.139.76.201]

Trace complete.

I can get a ping time and tracert from school tomorow, Wednesday. Has
anyone else had similar problems?

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Re: wiki.linuxfromscratch.org time out problems

2006-01-24 Thread Robert Russell
On 1/24/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Russell wrote:
> > I have been following the recent discussion on the lfs-dev list about
> > trac and I have only one issue. I cannot connect to
> > wiki.linuxfromscratch.org:80 from my home, at college I can connect,
> > my college is about 30 miles from home, I keep getting "The connection
> > has timed out" messages. This happens in both IE6, wget 1.10.2 binary
> > for Windows, and Firefox-1.5, and has been occuring since I tried to
> > access the first test setup of the wiki at wiki.linuxfromscratch.org,
> > within a few days of the link being placed on the mailing list.
>
> What is the ip address of your system?
>
>   -- Bruce

At home it is 24.249.5.137, at school I don't know right now.

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Re: wiki.linuxfromscratch.org time out problems

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Russell
On 1/24/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Russell wrote:
> > On 1/24/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>What is the ip address of your system?
>
> > At home it is 24.249.5.137
>
> You were blocked for excessive downloads.  You downloaded two LiveCD
> isos.  I probably need to fix that.  Its just that some ips were
> downloading the whole archive and I set an arbitrary limit of 800M.
>
> You are unblocked now.
>
>  -- Bruce

thanks

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