Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslated strings in LibreOffice 6 NotebookBar (a least in Basque)

2018-06-05 Thread sophi
Hi Osoitz,
Le 05/06/2018 à 17:10, Osoitz E a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> If a user chooses to use the NotebookBar in LibreOffice 6 some untranslated
> strings appear in Calc and Impress, at least when using the Basque (eu)
> interface.
> 
> Apparently Write is not affected. I can't confirm now whether this happens
> in other languages too.
> 
> As far as I can tell by checking Pootle, these are all common words that
> have been translated long ago, before the release: Font, Number, Alignment,
> Cells, Data, Slideshow, Slide, Insert, Draw

Do you have KeyID language pack installed to check if the strings have a
KeyID?
If not, I'll check later
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslated strings in LibreOffice 6 NotebookBar (a least in Basque)

2018-06-05 Thread sophi
Hi Osoitz
Le 05/06/2018 à 17:10, Osoitz E a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> If a user chooses to use the NotebookBar in LibreOffice 6 some untranslated
> strings appear in Calc and Impress, at least when using the Basque (eu)
> interface.
> 
> Apparently Write is not affected. I can't confirm now whether this happens
> in other languages too.
> 
> As far as I can tell by checking Pootle, these are all common words that
> have been translated long ago, before the release: Font, Number, Alignment,
> Cells, Data, Slideshow, Slide, Insert, Draw
> 
> Calc NotebookBar: https://ibin.co/w800/44FhWtijygcB.jpg

They seems to be on Pootle 9HzEG > Number and F7vQ2 > Alignment and I
got them translated in FR version using Version: 6.1.0.0.beta1

Could you check that you have them translated in Pootle? If not, you
should install the KeyID language pack and give the reference of all the
missing translation you find
Cheers
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[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: RFC to remove "Input Method Status" menu option and implementation

2018-06-18 Thread sophi
Hi all,

This was posted on the dev@ list, maybe for those who use an IMS, you
could give feedback?
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Sophie


 Message transféré 
Sujet : RFC to remove "Input Method Status" menu option and implementation
Date : Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:14:56 +0200
De : Tomaž Vajngerl 
Pour : libreoffice-dev 

Hi,

In Writer, File->View we have "Input Method Status" option, which is
for me in "disabled" status ~all the time and I guess for others too.
The gerrit patch in [1] has a proposal to remove this from the menu,
but before we proceed with that it would be good to get some consensus
if this is "safe" to do.

In the help file [2] it says this is only implemented for IIIMP IM
framework in Linux that wasn't really used much and quickly replaced
by SCIM and later with IBUS. If that's true this function doesn't work
practically for nobody. Looking into the code this depends on X11 and
isn't really implemented for anything else. X11 is already in the way
out itself.

If somebody is more familiar with this, can give more information
about it and if this would be safe to remove?

If we can agree with the removal, I'll apply the patch and remove the
code from VCL.

[1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/55940/
[2] https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Input_Method_Status

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[libreoffice-l10n] Translation of Donate page

2018-06-19 Thread sophi
Hi all,

Christian has updated the strings for the donate page on Pootle Website
project. The new donate page has been tested first in English and will
be now localized for all languages using this page
https://www.libreoffice.org/donate/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation of Donate page

2018-06-20 Thread sophi
Hi Martin,
Le 20/06/2018 à 13:22, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> Hi, Sophie,
> 
> I do not see the updated Donate page strings in Pootle yet, but probably
> this takes a refresh, reboot or something to show up?

The file is named newdesign-xx.po, but maybe you already translated it,
Christian updated the file some times ago already.
Cheers
Sophie
> 
> Thanks, m.
> 
> 2018-06-19 17:04 GMT+02:00 sophi :
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Christian has updated the strings for the donate page on Pootle Website
>> project. The new donate page has been tested first in English and will
>> be now localized for all languages using this page
>> https://www.libreoffice.org/donate/
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: Re: Minutes of ESC call 2017-07-05

2018-07-09 Thread sophi
Hi Sophia,

Le 07/07/2018 à 18:49, Sophia Schröder a écrit :
> Sorry for the extra work, but... ;-) :-*

No problem, let see how we can try to find a compromise that could work
for you and for translators.

> 
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Betreff: Re: Minutes of ESC call 2017-07-05
> Datum: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 18:44:56 +0200
> Von: Sophia Schröder 
> Organisation: LibreOffice.org
> An: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org
> 
> 
> 
> * Documentation (Olivier)
>>  + New help
>>  + Testing in bug hunting session tomorrow (installs)
>>  + Small corrections in XSLT filter
>>  + tweaks in CSS by fitoshido – people start contributing
>>  + Help contents
>>  + cosmetic refactor by SophiaS
>>  + Contents for [NatNum12] by Lazlo Nemetz
>>  + Contents fixes (ohallot, fitoshido)
>> * l10n (Sophie)
>> + gave feedback to Olivier on reformat patches – cosmetics changes
>>   not ideal for our l10n volunteers
>> + better to also have actual help content changes alongside
> 
> I am with you. Please see my minor cosmetical changes as they are intented:
> A ground work for further improvements and easier work with the help
> files themselves.
> And it is planned as a "Long Term Project" to not flood translators with
> minor changes at once.
> 
> Let me explain it in one phrase as an example:
> 
> "Press the Enter key." - In this form, the plain text will be displayed
> to our user.
> 
> But hey, we have also at least two other forms of this sentence:
> 
> "Press the Enter key.", which will display the word "Enter"
> in bold.
> 
> And there is "Press the Enter key.", which
> behaves like the second case for now.
> 
> But in the end, the last one let us play with more possibilities in css
> styles, no? (I am not sure, just speculating).
> I am thinking about an underlying background of a key, for example.
> 
> And yes, I am experimenting a bit here and there to find out best
> solutions and practices.
> 
> So yes, carefull reviewings and criticisms are very welcome.

My proposal was to keep your work, but as part of a global rework of the
file, not as a unique change when it's about moving a period or some
spaces between two xml tags. Better, push the changes when a paragraph
or a sentence is modified or amended. That way there is no double work
for translators (or even triple if there is a typo in the new sentence
as it mays often happen due to the difficulty to work in the middle of
xml files).

> 
> And things like "Print icon" - l only say kerning and
> spacing in the resulting text.
> 
> I would like to extend/expand help textes by the way, while also
> reducing translation work by using the embedding feature instead of
> translating the same sentence several times again, but honestly, I have
> no clue how that works.

This could be difficult for translation because the meaning could be
different taking the context, grammar, gender and so on, into account.
> 
> I also changed my workflow to work file for file, hope that helps, at
> least in my case for merge conflicts I cannot solve online, but also for
> reviewing.

Maybe you could coordinate your work with others in the documentation
team and achieve the same work you are doing now but in the files they
are adding content to. That way, you continue working on what you want
and translators have only one time translation work on the same file.
Would you see that possible to organize with Olivier and would that be
convenient for you?

Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New projects Help and UI Master in Pootle

2018-07-10 Thread sophi
Hi Valter,
Le 10/07/2018 à 14:59, Valter Mura a écrit :
> Hi All
> 
> New projects, as per subject, appeared in Pootle, and I see a new project 
> 6.1, too.

6.1 is due soon now, so Christian has reflected the real 6.1 and master
branches
> 
> Which project does Master correspond to? I suppose 6.2, which has obviously a 
> different deadline than August 2018.

Yes, master is for the next versions, 6.2 and higher.
> 
> Is it correct?

yes :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: Re: Minutes of ESC call 2017-07-05

2018-07-10 Thread sophi
Hi Sophia,

Le 09/07/2018 à 20:06, Sophia Schröder a écrit :
> Hello Sophie, *,
> 
> the big workload of my 1st round of changes have just landed in Pootle
> and I see the issues they caused.
> 
> Some of the the "improvements" I made turned out to not be
> needed/helpful at al,
> others introduces new inconsistencies.
> And there are some new mistakes not neccessarily caused by me, but now
> they are there.

It's not easy to work in this area, so lets narrow what can be done in
respect of what you want to do.
> 
> My plan was to go through file for file in a more or less numerical order.
> 
> It seems to turn out not to be the best solution for the project.
> 
> If o.k., I could take the file(s) I just see a mistake in in Pootle.
> Would that helps?

It depends of what you call a mistake. If it's only moving a space
between 2 xml tags, then no. If it's together with fixing a typo, adding
content or formatting, then it's ok. That maybe the part Olivier can
coordinate with you.

[jumping to your question :)]
> 

>>>
>>> So yes, carefull reviewings and criticisms are very welcome.
>> My proposal was to keep your work, but as part of a global rework of the
>> file, not as a unique change when it's about moving a period or some
>> spaces between two xml tags. Better, push the changes when a paragraph
>> or a sentence is modified or amended. That way there is no double work
>> for translators (or even triple if there is a typo in the new sentence
>> as it mays often happen due to the difficulty to work in the middle of
>> xml files).
> I am not quite sure, what you mean. Can you explain it more, please?

I mean that formatting and adding content should happen at the same time
so translators don't have to work on the same file several times again
for the same version.
>>
>>> And things like "Print icon" - l only say kerning and
>>> spacing in the resulting text.
>>>
>>> I would like to extend/expand help textes by the way, while also
>>> reducing translation work by using the embedding feature instead of
>>> translating the same sentence several times again, but honestly, I have
>>> no clue how that works.
>> This could be difficult for translation because the meaning could be
>> different taking the context, grammar, gender and so on, into account.
> Ah I see. So I do not longer bother. It is beyond my skills anyway for now.

oki
>>> I also changed my workflow to work file for file, hope that helps, at
>>> least in my case for merge conflicts I cannot solve online, but also for
>>> reviewing.
>> Maybe you could coordinate your work with others in the documentation
>> team and achieve the same work you are doing now but in the files they
>> are adding content to. That way, you continue working on what you want
>> and translators have only one time translation work on the same file.
>> Would you see that possible to organize with Olivier and would that be
>> convenient for you?
> I wouldn't mind to improve my workflow in that way.
> But I don't know how to achieve that, but open for discussions and
> hopefully working solutions in that manner.

So let's discuss with Olivier who is organizing the work here, maybe he
will have some ideas on how to enhance the process and include you there.
I also have a question on the formatting added to the file, is this
documented somewhere? I recall the moment some years ago where several
 where removed and I would like to know what is the rule here.

Cheers
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[libreoffice-l10n] Note to translators in NatNum12 help files

2018-07-10 Thread sophi

Hi all,

In the patch for NatNum12 function's help, there is a note for
translators that I copy and paste here (thanks Laszlo for adding it):
---
tdf#115007 add NatNum12 help and ask translators for extending
language support in number and date formatting by extending
the newly integrated libnumbertext (http://www.numbertext.org)
and default date formats of LibreOffice:

Translators: (1) please, modify the list of NatNum12 functions
according to libnumbertext language support of your language.
Other arguments could be ordinal-feminine, ordinal-masculine,
ordinal-neuter, formal, article, etc. To show the available
NatNum12 arguments of your language, open
https://numbertext.github.io/#testimonials in a browser, and
select "Functions (help)" in the pop-up menu.

As you can see in the examples for NatNum12 date formats
and in the extended en_US.xml and hu_HU.xml locale data files, it's
possible to support also special number formatting needs of your
language, including spelling out numbers, money amounts and dates
with automatic selection of prepositions [like Catalan "de" or "d'"
before month names], articles [Hungarian "a" or "az"] and suffixes
[in Hungarian or likely Estonian, Finnish, Turkish etc. languages:
"in", "from", "to" etc. suffixes of day and month names], check
http://numbertext.org or write your questions on LibreOffice l10n
mailing list.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] "Show change authorship in tooltips" (for attention of da, de, eo, is, nl, nn, ru teams at least)

2018-07-16 Thread sophi
Hi Mihkel,

Thanks for your feedback and head-up, I've forwarded your mail to Heiko
so the UX team will be aware of the issue.

Cheers
Sophie
Le 15/07/2018 à 23:25, Mihkel Tõnnov a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> It seems the string "Show change authorship in tooltips" in 6.1 branch and
> master (Key-ID EitKc) has been misunderstood by several translation teams.
> Unless I am very much mistaken, the string is supposed to mean "show
> authors of [tracked] changes in tooltips", not "show change of authorship
> in tooltips" as currently translated in:
> da: Vis ændring af forfatterskab i bobletekst
> de: Wechsel der Autorschaft in Hilfetexten anzeigen
> eo: Vidigi aŭtoran ŝanĝon per ŝpruchelpilo
> is: Sýna breytingar á höfundum í vísbendingum verkfæra
> nl: Wijziging van auteur in helpteksten weergeven
> nn: Vis endring av forfattar i hjelpebobler
> ru: Показывать изменение авторства в подсказках
> 
> Other languages might also be concerned, since I only checked the ones I
> can understand at least somewhat.
> These seem OK though: es, fr, it, pt, pt-BR.
> 
> For Danish, German, Icelandic, and Norwegian Nynorsk, it think it should go
> like this (a bit unsure about de & is):
> Vis forfatter af ændringer i bobletekst
> Autor der Änderungen in Hilfetexten anzeigen
> Sýna höfund af breytingum í vísbendingum verkfæra
> Vis forfattar til endringar i hjelpebobler
> For the other languages pointed out above, I am not able to propose a
> better translation, but I'm quite sure the current ones are wrong :)
> 
> Maybe the original should be changed as well, in order to avoid further
> confusion.
> 
> Regards,
> Mihkel
> Estonian team
> 


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[libreoffice-l10n] Website strings translation

2018-07-25 Thread sophi
Hi all,

If you have not done so, please translate the website strings asap, they
contain the new donate page strings and they page will be in place for
6.1 launch..
Also, if there is an default amount for donation/recurring donation that
is preferred in your currency, just let us know.
Thanks a lot for you work!
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[libreoffice-l10n] 6.1 press release

2018-08-01 Thread sophi
Hi all,

For the 6.1 release, Italo has prepared a press folder where you can
find 3 documents:
- one on the general release announcement,
- another one describing the new icons styles
- another one naming developers having contributing to the features

Those 3 documents are finalized and you can work on their translation,
then send them to Italo or me, Italo maintains a list of press contact
in several languages and will take care to send them to journalists.
Documents are stored here:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/Shared/LO%20Releases/LO61&fileid=70682

The presentation is not finalized yet, I'll let you know when it's ready.
Thanks a lot in advance for your work!
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 6.1 Presentation

2018-08-02 Thread sophi
Le 02/08/2018 à 16:21, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
> I have finished the presentation for the press kit
> 
Thanks a lot Italo!
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 6.1 New Features video: script for subtitle translations

2018-08-08 Thread sophi
Le 08/08/2018 à 10:14, Sérgio Marques a écrit :
> Hi Mike
> 
> Apparently there is no username registed because I've tried to reset
> password and that was the message received.
> 
> Did the infraestructure changed?

Yes, there is a single sign on in place now. Do you have an account here:
https://user.documentfoundation.org/
For the moment, you can send me your translation and try to ping Guilhem
to have your account updated if you get a problem
Cheers
Sophie
> 
> Mike Saunders  escreveu no dia
> quarta, 8/08/2018 à(s) 08:15:
> 
>> Hi Sergio,
>>
>> On 07/08/2018 22:54, Sérgio Marques wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to update the wiki page, but it seems that I don't have access.
>>> Previously I could access wiki page just fine.
>>
>> With "don't have access", what do you mean specifically please? What's
>> the exact error message when you try to log in? Then I can send it to
>> our infra team to investigate... Thanks!
>>
>> Mike
>>
> 
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Website strings translation

2018-08-13 Thread sophi
Hi all,
Le 08/08/2018 à 17:19, Olivier Hallot a écrit :
> Hi
> 
> Em 08/08/2018 12:09, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos escreveu:
>> Missatge de Modestas Rimkus  del dia dc., 8
>> d’ag. 2018 a les 9:50:
>>> 2018-08-08, tr, 17:32 Luciana Costas  rašė:
>>>> I'd like to know if there're strings to translate into Spanish. If so, I'd
>>>> be willing to collaborate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Spanish looks 100% complete in Pootle. However, maybe you could contact the
>>> Spanish community and contribute in a different area. Adolfo?
>>
>> The website strings were indeed translated a while ago, but they don’t
>> seem to be deployed in the live website. Maybe Christian can tell us
>> more. Otherwise, let’s file a ticket at Redmine.
>>
>> Adolfo
>>
> Same for pt-BR
> 
The page is still in test and Christian is waiting for the feedback of
the TDF team to activate the page for all.
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[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website

2018-08-13 Thread sophi
Hi all,

Jean would like to make language site more prominent and is asking your
feedback on what he is trying to implement.

Cheers
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Sujet : [libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website
Date : Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:15:55 -0700 (MST)
De : Jean Spiteri 
Pour : webs...@global.libreoffice.org

Thanks to the huge international community around The Document Foundation,
numerous volunteers (and non-) work to maintain a version of the LibreOffice
website in their own language. Especially, when these are kept up-to-date,
these versions should be promoted, maybe not as substitutes for the official
English website but as local complementary resources. It could also be that,
for a user, knowing that there are other people talking his own language in
the community might lead him to more motivation than seeing the community as
a group of English-speaking individuals. This consideration is especially
valid as work is being carried out to have more volunteers on board.
Thus, to promote the different versions of the LibreOffice website better,
it is being proposed to add a small notification bar on top of the menu to
hint the user about the availability of a local version of the website. This
mailing post is being submitted to call for feedback about this addition to
the LibreOffice website before asking administrators to implement it on the
official website.
If you want to see what is the output of the proposal, please visit
newdesign.libreoffice.org. On top of the green menu bar, there should be a
black banner with some text on it. The actual proposal is that the banner is
seen only by those who have set a primary language other than English (US)
in their browser. However, to allow testing, this has been overridden to
show up always. (Please note that those who have English (US) set as their
browser's primary language will see incomplete text - This is expected.)

As a call to action, the community is being asked to give its feedback about
the proposal. Feel free to comment about the output or report any bugs you
might encounter.

Thank you.


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[libreoffice-l10n] NLP websites: wrong link to Bugzilla

2018-08-28 Thread sophi
Hi all,

Could you check on your site that on the QA page, the link to Bugzilla
is this one:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
instead of
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/
and correct if needed.

Thanks a lot in advance,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] To edit the "Language instructions" in the right sidebar of the Pootle

2018-09-03 Thread sophi
Hi,
Le 02/09/2018 à 15:19, Cheng-Chia Tseng a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> In the old Pootle installation, the administrator of the local language can
> set and edit the "Language instructions" at the right sidebar for the
> language.
> 
> I have set the instructions for traditional Chinese before, and would like
> to edit part of the content now. How can I change it?

It's no more possible, you can send me the text and I'll copy and paste it.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle 6.1 Vs. Master

2018-09-05 Thread sophi
Hi Valter,
Le 03/09/2018 à 11:53, Valter Mura a écrit :
> Hi All
> 
> Is it possible to check the 6.1 packages against the Master ones?
> 
> We made corrections in some 6.1 strings but I don't know if they will 
> populate automatically also the master.

It will be copied shortly before the next branch-off.
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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: plural forms translation, ngettext

2018-10-05 Thread sophi
Hi Mike,
Le 05/10/2018 à 17:57, Kaganski Mike a écrit :
> On 10/5/2018 6:09 PM, Caolán McNamara wrote:
>> To current NC_(context, string) we add NNC_(context, singular, plural)
>> when declaring the strings for translation
> 
> How does it play with other languages, where we might have more complex 
> rules? E.g., in Russian, a "singular" form might be used for any decimal 
> integer ending with 1 except 11 (e.g., 21, 31, 101...); also endings for 
> numbers with 2, 3, 4 differ from 5 and greater (22 from 25 likewise)...

I guess the number of msgstr[N] "" needed is based on your plural
equation added in Pootle or your translation tool:
(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && (n%100<10 ||
n%100>=20) ? 1

it's explained here:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Translating-plural-forms.html
and here:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Plural-forms.html#Plural-forms

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translating to Afrikaans

2018-10-18 Thread sophi
Hi Tomas, Dieudonne,
Le 18/10/2018 à 11:28, Tomas Kapiye a écrit :
> Hi Libre Team
> 
> My name is Tomas Kapiye and am serving my internship at iCraft under the
> supervision of Shinji Enoki.

Great to have you on board :) I've added Dieudonne in copy of this mail,
so welcome to both of you and thanks to Shinji for taking care :)
> 
> I am working on Libre and would like to contribute by translating to
> Afrikaans.
> This is a language widely spoken in Namibia. I have attended Afrikaans
> schools for both my primary and secondary education.
> 
> May I please receive advise on the way forward to contribute to the
> translations.
> 
> I have tried accessing the Pootle system but was unable to do any
> translation from the website when I get into the Afrikaans language.
> As per the below link:
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/af/libo_ui/translate/#filter=incomplete

Please first create an account here: https://user.documentfoundation.org/
and let me know when it's done, I'll add you to your respective
languages in Pootle
You can also read the documentation in the wiki here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translating_LibreOffice
to have an overview of the process.
We have a Telegram channel here:
https://t.me/joinchat/BFd-zUT3qHmhWEK_uKI6yw

Don't hesitate to ask me if you have any questions
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[libreoffice-l10n] German Team: help to correct affix error in German spelling dictionaries

2018-10-18 Thread sophi
Hi German Team :)
Could you see who in your community would be able to fix that bug?
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118343

Thanks a lot in advance for your help,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Lower Sorbian (dsb) dailies

2018-10-23 Thread sophi
Le 20/10/2018 à 16:31, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I'm the translator for Lower Sorbian (dsb). 75.6 percent of LibreOffice
> Master have been translated into Lower Sorbian now. Is it possible to
> create Lower Sorbian dailies in future?

It's in alpha1 version, but I've asked it to be added for daily/master too.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Lower Sorbian (dsb) dailies

2018-10-23 Thread sophi
Hi Michael
Le 23/10/2018 à 14:52, sophi a écrit :
> Le 20/10/2018 à 16:31, Michael Wolf a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm the translator for Lower Sorbian (dsb). 75.6 percent of LibreOffice
>> Master have been translated into Lower Sorbian now. Is it possible to
>> create Lower Sorbian dailies in future?
> 
> It's in alpha1 version, but I've asked it to be added for daily/master too.

And Christian has already done it see:
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Linux-rpm_deb-x86@87-TDF/current/
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@86-TDF/current/

Thanks a lot to him for this :)
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[libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-10-30 Thread sophi
Hi all,

It seems some language settings in Pootle are missing the plural form
now that it has been added to master.
If so, please send a mail here (instead of in Pootle) and indicate the
plural form that would work for your language.
There is a listing of plural forms here:
http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/30/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html

and a table with the corresponding equation here:
http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/localization-guide/en/latest/l10n/pluralforms.html

Check that this table has no error and ask the equation to be added to
your language.
If you are not using Pootle, I guess it has to be added to the header of
your .po files.

For me, when translating FR strings with plural forms, it gives a
critical error, I guess we will have to adapt pocheck script. But
Christian is on vacation this week, so I'll see with him when he is back.

Thanks in advance
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-10-31 Thread sophi
Hi Michael,
Le 30/10/2018 à 21:17, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> sophi schrieb:
> 
>> and a table with the corresponding equation here:
>> http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/localization-guide/en/latest/l10n/pluralforms.html
>>
>>
>> Check that this table has no error and ask the equation to be added to
>> your language.
>> If you are not using Pootle, I guess it has to be added to the header of
>> your .po files.
>>
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> in the list behind the link above Upper Sorbian and Lower Sorbian are
> missing. But they are in the CLDR list.
> 
> This applies to both Sorbian languages:
> 
> nplurals=4; plural=(n%100==1 ? 1 : n%100==2 ? 2 : n%100==3 || n%100==4 ?
> 3 : 0);
> 
> 
> This is the system:
> 
> 1, 101, 201, 301, etc. --> Nominative/Accusative singular
> 2, 102, 202, 302, etc. --> Nominative/Accusative dual
> 3/4, 103/104, 203/204, 303/304, etc. --> Nominative/Accusative plural
> 0, 5-100, 105-200, 205-300, 305-400, etc. --> Genitive plural
> 
> Decisive is the last digit, with decimal numbers as well. If the last
> digit behind the comma (in English: point) is 1 then
> nominative/accusative singular, if it is 2 nominative/accusative dual
> and so on.
> 
> So, both Sorbian languages have 4 forms and the same rules.

Not simple ;-)
> 
> Christian already knows about that. He enabled it on Pootle that I can
> translate the strings with plural forms. Before there was no translation
> text box because Pootle didn't know the Sorbian plural rules.
> 
> He wrote me: "Set it to four plural forms without explicitly listing the
> equation - that
> allows for translation already."

Thanks for letting me know, and yes, it seems it's enough to add the
number of plurals and let plural equation field blank to be able to
translate in Pootle.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-10-31 Thread sophi
Hi Danylo,
Le 30/10/2018 à 17:36, Danylo Korostil a écrit :
> On 10/30/18 3:10 PM, sophi wrote:
>> Check that this table has no error and ask the equation to be added to
>> your language.
> 
> Thanks! I've sent a pull request for my locale:
> https://github.com/translate/l10n-guide/pull/73
> 
> 
Great :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-11-02 Thread sophi
Hi Cor,
Le 01/11/2018 à 18:57, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> sophi wrote on 10/30/18 2:10 PM:
> 
>> It seems some language settings in Pootle are missing the plural form
>> now that it has been added to master.
> 
> Where should I miss/how can I see that

If the field is blank, you won't be able to translate and will have an
error message (from what I've understood from the requests in Pootle
messages). But I'll check for your language and that was the purpose of
my mail, to check only for languages who meet issues, and not for all :)
> 
>> If so, please send a mail here (instead of in Pootle) and indicate the
>> plural form that would work for your language.> There is a listing of plural 
>> forms here:
>> http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/30/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html
>>
>> and a table with the corresponding equation here:
>> http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/localization-guide/en/latest/l10n/pluralforms.html
> 
> Those are fine for Dutch.

Ok, thanks :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-11-02 Thread sophi
Hi Dmitris,

Le 02/11/2018 à 08:24, ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ Σ a écrit :
> High,
> in Greek it is displayed as (e.g. STR_SCATTR_PAGE_SCALE_PAGES
> Τοποθεσίες: sc/inc/globstr.hrc:317 Μονάδα #159066571
> <https://translations.documentfoundation.org/el/libo_ui/translate/sc/messages.po#unit=159066571>
> )
> English
> Μορφή πληθυντικού του 0
> One page
> Μορφή πληθυντικού του 1
> %1 pages
> 
> in English and the relevant in Greek
> which is
> Plural form 0
> One page
> and Plural form 1
> %1 pages
> 
> and is probably wrong
> and the translation of English in Greek (for the English part is wrong).
> Plurals form for Greek is nplurals=2; plural=(n != 1);
> and in Plural rules it is only for some kind feminine.

Thanks for your feedback. I'll check and correct the plural form if it's
different, otherwise, I'll come back to you.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Several http links on UI

2018-11-02 Thread sophi
Hi Sabri,
Le 01/11/2018 à 18:53, Sabri ÜNAL a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> The Document Foundation (http://www.documentfoundation.org) have been
> using HTTPS  recently.
> 
> Using HTTPS prefix for documetfoundation.org, it will be a better option.
> 
> My suggestion is, we might replace http://www.documentfoundation.org URL
> to https://www.documentfoundation.org
> 
> And, there are only 2 sentences that will be replaced.
> 
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_ui/translate/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_languages.po#unit=32654036
> 
> 
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_ui/translate/scp2/source/ooo.po#unit=32665183
> 
> 
> Also, there are several URL similar with this situation.
> 
> "http://wiki.documentfoundation.org"; on
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_ui/translate/swext/mediawiki/help.po#unit=117893716
> 
> 
> "http://bugs.documentfoundation.org"; on
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_ui/translate/readlicense_oo/docs.po#unit=149537351
> 
> 
> "http://www.libreoffice.org"; on
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_ui/translate/sfx2/messages.po#unit=149537384

Thanks a lot for your feedback, I'll fill a bug for that.
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[libreoffice-l10n] Pad for the annual report

2018-11-05 Thread sophi
Hi all,

The pad available to collect the activities of the community is of great
help for Italo and Mike when they write the annual report, they don't
have to search right and left for all of what happen in our vibrant
project :)

https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport

Could you take care to fill this year activities in your area?

Thanks a lot in advance!
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-11-06 Thread sophi
Hi Dimitris,
Le 02/11/2018 à 10:22, sophi a écrit :
> Hi Dmitris,
> 
> Le 02/11/2018 à 08:24, ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ Σ a écrit :
>> High,
>> in Greek it is displayed as (e.g. STR_SCATTR_PAGE_SCALE_PAGES
>> Τοποθεσίες: sc/inc/globstr.hrc:317 Μονάδα #159066571
>> <https://translations.documentfoundation.org/el/libo_ui/translate/sc/messages.po#unit=159066571>
>> )
>> English
>> Μορφή πληθυντικού του 0
>> One page
>> Μορφή πληθυντικού του 1
>> %1 pages
>>
>> in English and the relevant in Greek
>> which is
>> Plural form 0
>> One page
>> and Plural form 1
>> %1 pages
>>
>> and is probably wrong
>> and the translation of English in Greek (for the English part is wrong).
>> Plurals form for Greek is nplurals=2; plural=(n != 1);
>> and in Plural rules it is only for some kind feminine.
> 
> Thanks for your feedback. I'll check and correct the plural form if it's
> different, otherwise, I'll come back to you.

The plural form for your language in Pootle is correct. Could you fill a
bug report on this so we can track your problem?
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-11-06 Thread sophi
Hi Baurzhan,
Le 04/11/2018 à 16:07, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
> Dear Sophie,
> 
> Could you please update Kazakh plural forms to "nplurals=1; plural=0" ?

It's already in Pootle, let me know if you meet any issue.
Cheers
Sophie
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:23 PM sophi  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dmitris,
>>
>> Le 02/11/2018 à 08:24, ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ Σ a écrit :
>>> High,
>>> in Greek it is displayed as (e.g. STR_SCATTR_PAGE_SCALE_PAGES
>>> Τοποθεσίες: sc/inc/globstr.hrc:317 Μονάδα #159066571
>>> <https://translations.documentfoundation.org/el/libo_ui/translate/sc/messages.po#unit=159066571>
>>> )
>>> English
>>> Μορφή πληθυντικού του 0
>>> One page
>>> Μορφή πληθυντικού του 1
>>> %1 pages
>>>
>>> in English and the relevant in Greek
>>> which is
>>> Plural form 0
>>> One page
>>> and Plural form 1
>>> %1 pages
>>>
>>> and is probably wrong
>>> and the translation of English in Greek (for the English part is wrong).
>>> Plurals form for Greek is nplurals=2; plural=(n != 1);
>>> and in Plural rules it is only for some kind feminine.
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback. I'll check and correct the plural form if it's
>> different, otherwise, I'll come back to you.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sophie
>>
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[libreoffice-l10n] Documentation project on NextCloud

2018-11-06 Thread sophi
Hi all,

The international Documentation project is moving to NextCloud and will
close the ODFAuthors instance in some times.
If you are interested to maintain the documentation in your language
using LibreOffice on line and NextCloud, please drop a mail to the
documentation list so Olivier can manage your rights on the instance.

The Documentation project is now here:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/LibreOffice%20Documentation&fileid=80652

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[libreoffice-l10n] Report on QA activities at local level

2018-11-07 Thread sophi
Hi all,

Would it be possible that once a month you report the QA activities of
your local team? For example: bug hunting session participation, some
difficult bugs reproduced, narrowed and reported, special testing on
your language, etc. whatever one or several of your team members have done.
That would help Xisco to collect what happens and make the QA blog more
attractive :)

Please add your content here:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief
and ping me if you need help

Thanks a lot in advance,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-11-12 Thread sophi
Hi Baurzhan,
Le 11/11/2018 à 12:57, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:33 PM sophi  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Baurzhan,
>> Le 04/11/2018 à 16:07, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
>>> Dear Sophie,
>>>
>>> Could you please update Kazakh plural forms to "nplurals=1; plural=0" ?
>>
>> It's already in Pootle, let me know if you meet any issue.
>> Cheers
>> Sophie
> 
> Hi Sophie,
> I see an error at
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/translate/sc/messages.po#unit=159071307
> When I downloaded PO file directly, the plural forms header was not
> present in it.

According to
https://github.com/translate/l10n-guide/blob/master/docs/l10n/pluralforms.rst

Kazakh has nplurals=2 so I've updated your language in Pootle to reflect
that. Let me know if now it's ok.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-11-13 Thread sophi
Hi Baurzhan,
Le 13/11/2018 à 03:12, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
> Dear Sophie,
> 
> We've been using "nplurals=1; plural=0" form for quite a while in,
> say, GNOME and Xfce, and Mozilla as well and never had any problems.
> 
> Could you please revert the Pootle plural form of Kazakh language to it?
> 
> I will silence the printf checks then as Christian suggested.

This is done, thanks for the feedback. It seems the list at
Translate.org is not right then.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

2018-11-20 Thread sophi
Hi Cor,
Le 18/11/2018 à 22:57, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> sophi wrote on 11/2/18 10:20 AM:
>> Le 01/11/2018 à 18:57, Cor Nouws>> sophi wrote on 10/30/18 2:10 PM:
>>>
>>>> It seems some language settings in Pootle are missing the plural form
>>>> now that it has been added to master.
>>>
>>> Where should I miss/how can I see that
>>
>> If the field is blank, you won't be able to translate and will have an
>> error message (from what I've understood from the requests in Pootle
> 
> Where can I see a field for this
> 
> (Sorry for being totally dump here ;) obviously missed some mails..)

You need to be Pootle admin to modify the language values.
But for NL, number of plurals is: 2, I guess it's correct.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: plural forms translation, ngettext

2018-11-21 Thread sophi
Hi Kevin,
Le 21/11/2018 à 10:14, Caolán McNamara a écrit :
> On Tue, 2018-11-20 at 13:50 -0600, Kevin Scannell wrote:
>> A Chaoláin a chara
>>
>> There's one small issue however: the number of plural forms showing
>> up for Irish is incorrect; we should have five plural forms with the
>> following specification:
>>
>> "Plural-Forms: nplurals=5; plural=n==1 ? 0 : n==2 ? 1 : (n>2 && n<7)
>> ? 2 :(n>6 && n<11) ? 3 : 4;\n"
> 
> ...
> 
>> Would it be possible to update the documentfoundation.org Pootle
>> instance with this new string?
> 
> I think sophi will fix those up from your submission to this list
> 
I've corrected number of plurals and added the equation you indicated in
Pootle, let me know if you still meet problems.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Two bugs in Lower Sorbian and Upper Sorbian LibreOffice master

2018-11-22 Thread sophi
Hi Michael,
Le 21/11/2018 à 21:44, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I found two bugs both in Lower Sorbian and in Upper Sorbian LibreOffice
> master builds.
> 
> In the View menu of LO Writer (dsb: Naglěd, hsb: Napohlad) are two wrong
> menu items:
> 
> - The en-US phrase "File selection"? is shown in German: "Dateiauswahl".
> It seems that this string comes from the OS. But there isn't any OS in
> Sorbian languages, all Sorbs use their OS in German. This string should
> be localizable.
> 
> - The Sorbian word "meni" for English "menu" is automatically converted
> to lower case. It should be in upper case (= "Meni"). Curiosly this
> Sorbian word is shown with German user language as well.

Could you report the bugs on Bugzilla, then we can follow-up from there.
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Where are Emojis in Sorbian LO builds?

2018-11-26 Thread sophi
Hi Michael,
Le 25/11/2018 à 20:40, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I was looking for Sorbian emojis I translated on Pootle but I don't find
> them anywhere in LibreOffice. AFAIK they should be displayed in Tools
> --> Autocorrect --> Autorcorrect Options... --> Replace but there is
> nothing. I tried to define a conversion rule but it didn't work.

They should be there:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/dsb/libo_ui/translate/extras/source/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Where are Emojis in Sorbian LO builds?

2018-11-26 Thread sophi
Hi Michael,

Le 26/11/2018 à 17:09, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> sophi schrieb:
>> They should be there:
>> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/dsb/libo_ui/translate/extras/source/
>>
>>
> 
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> I think you misunderstood me. They have been already translated. No, I
> mean that they are not shown in the LO master builds in Tools-->
> Autocorrect --> Autocorrect Options... --> Replace. But, meanwhile, I
> think why they are not displayed: The files /share/autocorrect/acor_hsb
> resp. acor_dsb do not exist. This could be the reason. Am I right?
> 
> Need I create these files myself, manually?

The file should be build at runtime, so if it's not present it's a bug
and you should fill it in bugzilla. Cloph is back now, so I'll discuss
with him tomorrow about the sites and your issue, but it's always better
to have a bug number to follow-up.
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[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [libo-marketing-priv] Marketing/Community Budgets for 2019

2018-12-14 Thread sophi
Hi all,

I'm transferring this mail from Italo about budget and local activities
in 2019. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any question.
Cheers
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Sujet : [libo-marketing-priv] Marketing/Community Budgets for 2019
Date : Thu, 13 Dec 2018 13:15:30 +0100
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Organisation : The Document Foundation
Pour : LO Marketing Private


In order to improve the management of the marketing/community budget for
2019, we ask native language communities to provide the following:

1. A list of objectives you would like to pursue in 2019. Please avoid
wishful thinking, and stick to realistic objectives. A few examples:
organize a meeting with public administrations to educate them about
LibreOffice and ODF; organize a local LibreOffice Conference; reimburse
volunteers travelling around the country to present LibreOffice and ODF
at local events.

2. For each objective, provide a rationale and a sensible amount of
money. Again, we are spending donations money, and we must be extremely
cautious both with requests and with approvals. Requests missing a
rationale or easy to understand details will not be approved.

3. For requests equal or exceeding 1,000 euro, you must provide the
outline of a project, because a large amount of money is probably
covering different expenses (people, suppliers, events) and budget
approvers should be allowed to have a clear picture of what they approve.

Examples of activities which TDF will provide a budget for:

1. community events (aimed at getting face-time for community contributors)

2. marketing activities (aimed at representing the project to the
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3. targeted projects (for instance, promoting LibreOffice in schools)

In addition, we ask you to provide a list, if any, of infrastructure
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The idea is to keep the administrative overhead as low as possible, and
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TDF BoD will provide a budget bucket for marketing and one for
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As a sample, a request could look like this:

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We'd like to request a 2017 budget of 1000 € for community events and
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Expenses we envision are

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice Online pots in Pootle

2018-12-17 Thread sophi
Hi Andras,

Le 17/12/2018 à 11:41, Andras Timar a écrit :
> Hi Cloph,
> 
> Can you please update LibreOffice Online in Pootle? There are a few new UI
> strings, e.g. the document signing toolbar.

Cloph has done it.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] "Document signed but not all files" in LO online

2018-12-21 Thread sophi
Hi Stanislav, all
Le 20/12/2018 à 19:22, Sveinn í Felli a écrit :
> Þann 20.12.2018 17:39, skrifaði Stanislav Horáček:
>> Hi,
>>
>> could someone explain what does the new string "Document signed but
>> not all files are signed." in LO online mean? Does it imply that a
>> document can consist of more files?
> 
> Just a quess here; maybe the document has linked and/or embedded files,
> like pictures, graphs, fonts, etc.?

I had the same guess but I'll ask for confirmation on the dev@ list.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] ask - question

2019-01-15 Thread sophi
Hi Cor,
Le 15/01/2019 à 16:21, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there any way to send a direct message to someone who comments/answers?
> Maybe depending on my rights?

You mean on AskBot or on Pootle?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] accest to Silver Stripe Server

2019-02-07 Thread sophi
Hi Rhoslyn,

Le 07/02/2019 à 16:08, Rhoslyn Prys a écrit :
> I'm getting a 'Server error' message when attmpting to access Silver
> Stripe to update cy.libreoffice.org.
> 
> Is it possible to hav a copy of any changes mate to the libreoffice.org
> websit following the 6.2 launch?
> 
> I'm not sure if there have been changes to the access proceedures since
> 6.1?

We are using an SSO to connect to the services, do you already have an
account here: https://user.documentfoundation.org/ ?
If not, please create one and if you still meet issues, let me know
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Polish native-lang project is probably dead

2019-02-15 Thread sophi
Hi Dominik,

Le 14/02/2019 à 23:25, Dominik Danelski a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> When I search for LibreOffice in search engines the first result I get is 
> pl.libreoffice.org so I assume it should be well-maintained in order to be 
> attractive for potential new users. However the website is greatly outdated: 
> the "new" version advertised on the main page is LO4, URLs redirecting to the 
> English website do not work anymore and design was not prepared for mobile 
> devices.
> 
> I could not find any direct contact information to person maintaining that 
> community/website, but I can safely assume that anyone who made last changes 
> a few years ago probably lost interest in the project or time to be involved.
> 
> For now I suggest either redirecting visitors from pl.libreoffice.org to the 
> main (English) website or stripping outdated sections like changelog and 
> leaving just the general description of the project, advantages and links for 
> download. Any remaining URLs should be checked and recreated if necessary.
> 
> 
> Is there any person with sufficient rights to do this or allow me to help in 
> this task?

Thank you for offer, best would be I grant you rights and you manage to
make the changes you mentioned.
Should I create your account with this mail address?
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[libreoffice-l10n] Open Badges for LibreOffice contributions

2019-02-19 Thread sophi
Hi all,

I'm working with Mike Saunders on implementing the Open Badges system
in our community: https://openbadges.org

Mike is working with the Design project to get some badges with
LibreOffice identity. Guilhem is working on the infra side to see how to
automate the process.

In the meantime, I would like to ask you what would be the basis in your
opinion to get badges. If you read what OpenBadges is, it's not only
about contributions but also awarding skills. Those badges get more and
more recognized by companies and universities, so it's also an
opportunity for contributors to add to their experience.

In that regard, what realizations/targets would you propose to get awarded?
Thanks a lot in advance
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] What happens if your account gets breached.

2019-03-15 Thread sophi
Hi Warren,
Le 15/03/2019 à 13:41, Warren Camilleri a écrit :
> Dear LO L10n Teams.
> 
>  
> 
> It’s been a brutal couple of years for me with local, eu and us justice,
> thanks to enom losing a domain for me (their auto-renewal payment gateway
> glitched  and did not request the funds from paypal), this domain was
> ossmalta.com the same domain I used for my LO communications and
> translations, to whom may speak to regain access to my old accounts and
> reboot the LION for Malta – Maltese – Malti and the Marketing side if my
> memory serves correctly.
> 
>  
> 
> I learnt my lesson, and now use lastpass password management and also call
> my accounts are now tied to a gmail account with further hardening. (we all
> have done stupid things, and this issue for me was one of them, plus it was
> the first domain I bought at the time I was still naïve thinking that no one
> can jack the domain, I’ll work it out with enom, sadly that blew up in my
> face)

Sorry to hear that you encounter so many difficulties these last years.
Let's begin again on a more optimistic and pleasant project :)
I can change war...@ossmalta.com in Pootle to the gmail address you used
for this email if it's what you want. If you need to change the password
also, let me know and I'll do it too.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] cui strings

2019-05-07 Thread sophi
Hi Martin, all,

Le 07/05/2019 à 10:22, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> The new tips are written for Windows, not for macOS (the menu path for
> Settings command/dialog is different on macOS so the tips should have
> optional text/menu paths for macOS).

That is a work in progress, shortcuts for Mac will be available in one
of the next iterations of development.

The final patch for this iteration will be pushed today, then
translation could be done now.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Spellchecker for indigenous language

2019-05-16 Thread sophi
Hi,
Le 16/05/2019 à 17:00, "Andrés Chandía" a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi there I have created an spellchecker for Mapudüngun, but this language is 
> not included
> in the LibreOffice list of spellcheckers, so, is there anybody who knows who 
> to address to ask
> for inclusion of this language in the list?

You'll find useful information on these pages:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language
Don't hesitate to come back if you have questions
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Spellchecker for indigenous language

2019-05-17 Thread sophi
Hi Andrés,
Le 16/05/2019 à 20:48, "Andrés Chandía" a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi Dennis, 
> 
> it seems it is not that easy, at least for me, I'm a little bit lost, and I 
> don't know if
> this is what I need to do, I better explain a little bit more...
> 
> 
> I have the oxt file that I can install at the LibreOffice local interface, 
> but I have to
> activate it as Quechua for it to work, I would like to have there, at the 
> local menu, the name
> of Mapudüngun available to activate it

So Dennis told you to add your name in this table
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Dictionaries
Then to have you language included in LibreOffice, please file a bug here:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org
and request for your language to be added and the dictionary too.
Let me know when you created the issue and do not hesitate to ask if you
have any question.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Moving to Translate extension in the wiki: call for help

2019-05-17 Thread sophi
Hi Ilmari,

Thanks for your detailed mail and pushing this work softly.

Just a quick question: you've tagged the FR FAQ, but it's the source
language for other translations, so will it still work that way or do we
(FR team) have to create it in English first?

And a note: I guess most of us are rushing to complete there l10n for
6.3, so speaking about me, I won't have time to dedicate to the wiki
pages before that, that mean I aim to finish l10n mid-July. So don't be
disappointed if you see few feedback before July, but be sure I'll help
after :)
Cheers
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Le 16/05/2019 à 18:13, Ilmari Lauhakangas a écrit :
> Hello teams,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Moving to Translate extension in the wiki: call for help

2019-05-17 Thread sophi
Le 17/05/2019 à 12:04, Ilmari Lauhakangas a écrit :
> sophi kirjoitti 17.5.2019 klo 12.12:
>> Hi Ilmari,
>>
>> Thanks for your detailed mail and pushing this work softly.
>>
>> Just a quick question: you've tagged the FR FAQ, but it's the source
>> language for other translations, so will it still work that way or do we
>> (FR team) have to create it in English first?
> 
> Good question. This requires action from infra:
> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2883

Great, thanks a lot!
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[libreoffice-l10n] HSQLDB migration how-to

2019-06-13 Thread sophi
Hi all,

With 6.3 release, when you open a database, the UI would show the user a
link, on the dialog box which starts the process, to a wiki page with
detailed information on what was possible with Migration Assistant(MA)
from HSQLDB to another engine and on how to perform a migration with or
without use of the MA too.

The link in the dialog box will point to this wiki page here:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/HowTo/MigrateFromHSQLDB

It is empty for the moment but documentation team is working on it (a
preview of the structure is on Drew page here
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/tmpMA

The page will be marked for translation with the wiki translation
extension.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] HSQLDB migration how-to

2019-06-13 Thread sophi
Hi Martin,
Le 13/06/2019 à 11:50, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Sophie, great to hear this.
> 
> Just a suggestion - would it not be better to move that wiki page, once it
> is finished in English and maybe localized in a few languages, to LO help
> (by the time of string freeze, LO63RC1)?
> 
> Some (corporate/government/military etc.) users do not have internet access
> due to security reasons, also wiki is simpler to hack, servers can be down
> etc.
> 
> If local help is not present, the system can still redirect to wiki help,
> that mechanism is already in place.

From what I understood during the ESC call last week (see the minutes at
the end of this mail), it is transitional until the assistant does its
job. For the moment, some cases are not took into account during the
migration and can mess the database, this is what will be explained in
the how-to, what you should do if your database is out of what the
migration tool can process.
The wiki page will adapt to the progress of the migration assistant
until it's able to migrate all or most types of databases. Drew will
blog also about the progress.
So, I think it's better to have it in the wiki for the moment and have
the help page for 6.4 when and if the migration assistant issues are solved.

Minutes of the ESC on the topic:
--
 + HSQLDB vs. Firebird ? (Caolan)
+ last release punted out decision on removing HSQLDB
+ should we do that / who makes that decision ?
+ would like to see it go but – do we think it will work ?
+ not a good idea to remove HSQLDB in 6.3 (Drew)
   + migration assistant is not capable of moving the
 majority of files it can run across.
   + E-mail on dev. list about this.
   + recommend leave firebird active as in 6.2
   + recommend expose migration assistant as it is today
  + but reasonable set of data-types doesn’t work for
   + needs to be fixed & improving SDBC driver to have parity
 with HSQL – spend time to 6.4 to focus activities to
 encourage migration.
   + prefer to drop this for 6.4 ...
+ what is the state ? (Caolan)
   + firebird is the default in 6.2 (Drew)
   + in 6.3 we get the migration assistant out of the box.
   + suggest on the dialog box saying “want to migrate ?” (Drew)
   + link to a wiki page with a tutorial to help there.
   + tie it into some blog posts – to get some urgency here
(Drew)
AI:+ add link to the dialog (Caolan)
+ do we have a migration tracking bug ? (Caolan)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116968
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[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate live test instance

2019-06-27 Thread sophi
Hi all,

Here are the minutes of the ESC call on the l10n part.
---
* l10n (Sophie)
+ decided last week to give a big live test to weblate on master
   + after the 6.3 branching.
 (master on weblate, 6.3 and 6.2 on pootle)
   + get feedback from translators after ~2 months at LibOCon


I guess some of you will be happy ;) I'll let you know when the instance
will be available for translation. It would be great if many of you
participate to the test.
At the end of August, I'll collect your feedback and we will go to a
conclusion whether to migrate or not during the workshop at LibOCon.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Protect form

2019-07-03 Thread sophi
Hi Martin,
Le 02/07/2019 à 15:09, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> what does
>  Protect form (no longer protects whole document. Insert write protected
> section instead)
> esp. "Protect form" in string mjaAT mean?
> 
> Is it:
> "The form of protection"
> "The form the protection should be applied to"
> "Protect the form"
> etc.

I didn't find anything in the release notes, but I would go for Protect
the form.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Libre Office lo L10N

2019-07-03 Thread sophi
Hi Saikeo,
Le 03/07/2019 à 11:06, Saikeo Kavhanxay a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I have sent this email to ask some question. I have been visit L10N pages and 
> then I try to translate my locale lo 
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/lo/ and it seems that I can't 
> submit my translation.

You should ask Anousak Souphavanh (anousakgmail.com) to add you as a
translator. If you don't get an answer within the next days, come back
to me, I'll be able to add you.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle Master: Templates vs. Final version

2019-07-04 Thread sophi
Hi Valter,

Le 02/07/2019 à 20:45, Valter Mura a écrit :
> Hi Sophie, Christian, All,
> 
> AFAIK, the latest updates for Master UI/Help strings are 1 month old.
> 
> Do you expect to update again in the next few days? We are starting to
> work on translations.

It has been updated yesterday.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Add hy-RU to the Pootle translation server

2019-07-11 Thread sophi
Hi Samvel,
Le 11/07/2019 à 09:15, ԻԴ | Սամվել Հարությունյան a écrit :
> Hi,
> We've started translating Libreoffice-6.0 at march 2018 in Armenian
> (hy-RU) and finished a few days ago. Now we try apply it on libreoffice
> 6.2 or 6.1 but a part of UI  isn't translated. We haven't upload it
> Pootle yet. Please add hy-RU language to your server. Please help us
> make translation of latest version without doing whole work again.

Thanks for your work! Armenian is already in Pootle:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hy/
Are you in contact with Seda already, he is administrator of your
language in Pootle?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Add hy-RU to the Pootle translation server

2019-07-11 Thread sophi
Hi Samvel,
Le 11/07/2019 à 14:19, samvel.harutyun...@realschool.am a écrit :
> There are 4 types of Armenian locales added to Loffice. We've translated 
> hy-RU, 
> and now we are translating hy-IR(Armenian with classical orthography). 
> Please, 
> read this dialog.
> 
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116058
> 
Thanks for the explanation, will you be able to merge your .po files to
6.2 or 6.3 or will you need help for that? How many types should we add
to Pootle, all 4 or hy-RU and hy-IR only?
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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Migrationdialogue Firebird - Added content to HowTo

2019-07-16 Thread sophi
Hi Martin,
Le 16/07/2019 à 15:13, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I am cross-posting this also to l10n list, as this needs to be localized
> for 6.3 release as well (at least for languages that want it localized).
> 
> Will this page get under a l10n wiki plug-in for translation or should we
> translate this wiki page manually?
> 
> Will links to localized wiki page in localized versions of LO63 work
> automatically or should I open a special bug for that?
> 
> Please reply ASAP so I can start localizing.

Olivier has worked on it (thanks!), it's now translatable via the wiki
extension.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Silesian translation not available in 6.3.0

2019-08-08 Thread sophi
Hi Grzegorz,
Le 08/08/2019 à 14:37, Grzegorz Kulik a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I need help. The Silesian version (szl) has been almost fully
> translated on Pootle since June but it seems it wasn't incorporated
> into LO 6.3.0. Do you guys know if I was supposed to do something
> extra? Like ask somewhere for it to be done?

I'll ping Christian about it and keep you updated.
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[libreoffice-l10n] Change for a string in German translation

2019-08-09 Thread sophi
Hi Christian,

Could you have a look at this bug and update it:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124394

Thanks a lot in advance
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[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-08-27 Thread sophi
Hi all,

We have deployed a Weblate instance for testing purpose here:
https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/

You can login with your Pootle account. Cloph has updated it with the
last strings from master.

*NOTE*: *it is for testing purpose only*, the test will go-on until end
of LibOCon and we will make a decision about migration from Pootle to
Weblate after this test.

Anonymous making suggestions are not reflected here, only those
belonging to a group are able to test.

Your feedback is very welcome of course, we will take it into account
before making a decision.

Don't hesitate if you have question.
Happy testing :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-08-27 Thread sophi
Hi Yaron,
Le 27/08/2019 à 16:45, Yaron Shahrabani a écrit :
> Lol, Hebrew looks pretty German from here:

Could you give me the exact path to the file, I can't see it in your
screenshot. Thanks
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-08-28 Thread sophi
Hi Michael,

Le 27/08/2019 à 18:07, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> Why are there untranslated strings for Upper Sorbian and Lower Sorbian
> on Weblate? All master strings are translated on Pootle for both languages.

The template has been updated
> 
> And, will Weblate the translation platform in future, note more Pootle?

This is what we have to decide. Pootle is no more developed and
maintained so we have to find another tool for the future. Weblate seems
the best tool to suite our needs (off line/on line translation). This is
why we are testing it at the moment.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-08-28 Thread sophi
Hi,

Le 28/08/2019 à 08:14, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit :
> I agree with Cheng.
> All the different small parts of items makes it uncomfortable to see
> what to translate.
> Better is to have one folder of untranslated items (like Pootle)
> And saving a change and skip to the next item seems a bit slow to me.

This is not possible currently on Weblate and I agree this is not the
best, but Weblate has many other nice features :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-08-28 Thread sophi
Hi Ilmari,

Le 28/08/2019 à 11:04, Ilmari Lauhakangas a écrit :
> On 28.08.2019 11:42, sophi wrote:
>> Le 28/08/2019 à 08:14, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit :
>>> I agree with Cheng.
>>> All the different small parts of items makes it uncomfortable to see
>>> what to translate.
>>> Better is to have one folder of untranslated items (like Pootle)
>>> And saving a change and skip to the next item seems a bit slow to me.
>>
>> This is not possible currently on Weblate and I agree this is not the
>> best, but Weblate has many other nice features :)
> 
> Who volunteers to create a feature request?
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues
> 
> I was unable to find an existing request.

It's somewhere on the site, maybe documentation, it's said it will not
be done at the moment unless there is a strong reason. If we adopt it,
that could become a strong reason ;)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-08-28 Thread sophi
Hi Michael,

Le 28/08/2019 à 11:17, Michael Bauer a écrit :
> Very first impression is "Not sure I trust them to do the job properly".
> They list ga-IE as Irish (fine) but gd-GB as "Gaelic" rather than the
> much clearer "Scots Gaelic" or "Scottish Gaelic". Given the huge amount
> of confusion people have over Irish Gaelic, Manx Gaelic and Scots
> Gaelic, that suggests a lack of thought/research when language issues
> are concerned. We're going to have endless people ... ok not endless, a
> number of people signing up for the wrong language. Not fun for any
> locale manager either way.

See Ilmari's answer, this is something that should be corrected. I noted
it in the list here: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2691
> 
> I may have missed this but what's wrong with Pootle? 

As said, Pootle is no more developed nor maintained, we need to find
alternatives for the future.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-08-28 Thread sophi
Hi Yaron,
Le 28/08/2019 à 12:11, Yaron Shahrabani a écrit :
> https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/dbaccessmessages/he/?type=todo&offset=2
> 
> This is the exact path, sorry.

Thanks, I reported it to Christian.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Change % to real numbers in summary screens

2019-08-28 Thread sophi
Hi Olivier,
Le 28/08/2019 à 16:44, Olivier Hallot a écrit :
> Hi Christian, Sophie
> 
> Wherever possible, can I set the translation figures from % to real
> values? I find difficult to evaluate the work to do when reading % and
> not the actual volume of translations to do.

When you hover the percentage, you get the real value behind.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Missing feature, copy auxiliary translation

2019-08-30 Thread sophi
Hi,
Le 30/08/2019 à 01:11, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
> Hi Adolfo, *,
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:10 PM Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
>  wrote:
>>
>> Report it to their bug tracker: https://github.com/WeblateOrd/Weblate/issues
>>
>> This list is not a place where Weblate developers will hear your
>> voice; let’s not duplicate the bug tracker :)
> 
> I disagree - while of course the missing features should in the end be
> reported in weblate's tracker, it is important that the needs of the
> LibreOffice translators get raised here.

Yes, I'll report the requests made here or on telegram on the TDF
redmine ticket, then I'll sort them and will add to Weblate tracker what
is not yet there.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-09-02 Thread sophi
Le 01/09/2019 à 07:00, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit :
> That is one feature of pootle that I will mis than.

You can't see suggestions because for the moment, previous versions (and
translations) are not present in Weblate. This is what Christian
explained, for the future if we choose Weblate, then suggestions will be
present because everything will be imported there.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

2019-09-02 Thread sophi
Hi Michael and all,
Le 31/08/2019 à 17:23, Michael Bauer a écrit :
> I don't think that was the problem with Pootle though, that was just
> devs not commenting strings, which is a problem whatever the platform.
> Moving to Weblate won't solve that ;)

Yes, you are right, the only file that is commented is emojis, so it's
not a missing feature :)

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Re: Ôdp: [libreoffice-l10n] Utter negligence of the Silesian translation

2019-09-06 Thread sophi
Hi Grzegorz,
Le 06/09/2019 à 10:19, Grzegorz Kulik a écrit :
> Thank you for the information. However, it's hard to assume good faith
> if you try to find out what is going on and you get ignored. Not
> everybody is a programmer and not everybody is able to follow what
> changes are made to the repository. Apart from that, the information
> behind the link doesn't answer the question when the language pack will
> be available.

I told you that I'll come back to you when it will be available and that
Christian was working on it, didn't I? Christian is doing the release
engineering and he has a lot on his plate. If you know somebody able to
help him, he will be more that welcome.
> 
> Furthermore, if a language version was neglected once, it should be in
> the project's interest to compensate it by keeping its translators
> informed, not stonewall them.

I thought I answered your questions, if you find it's too long, just
ping me again and I'd give you explanations (thanks Adolfo for providing
them).

 Let's not forget that translations are
> done by volunteers, and if volunteers are treated this way, they just
> lose interest.

We are an open source project driven by volunteers, each of us has his
own speed and spare time and some areas of the project are lacking
volunteers, this is the case for infra.

 Sure, large languages will just have more and more new
> people wanting to do the job but what about the small ones that have
> just one or two translators?

I see no large languages or small languages here, all languages are equal.
BTW did you give a try to Weblate, what's you feedback on it?

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Ôdp: Ôdp: [libreoffice-l10n] Utter negligence of the Silesian translation

2019-09-06 Thread sophi
Le 06/09/2019 à 11:15, Grzegorz Kulik a écrit :
> We piōntek, 6 wrz 2019 ô godzinie 10:34, sophi (so...@libreoffice.org)
> pisze:
>> Hi Grzegorz,
>> Le 06/09/2019 à 10:19, Grzegorz Kulik a écrit :
>> Thank you for the information. However, it's hard to assume good faith
>> if you try to find out what is going on and you get ignored. Not
>> everybody is a programmer and not everybody is able to follow what
>> changes are made to the repository. Apart from that, the information
>> behind the link doesn't answer the question when the language pack will
>> be available.
>>
>> I told you that I'll come back to you when it will be available and that
>> Christian was working on it, didn't I? Christian is doing the release
>> engineering and he has a lot on his plate. If you know somebody able to
>> help him, he will be more that welcome.
> 
> Not exactly, you said you'd "keep me updated". You never said you'd get
> back to me when it's done. Keeping someone updated means making sure
> that they know of the latest news. That is the definition of keeping
> someone updated.

I'm sorry, but even if I really would like to, I wouldn't be able to
keep each contributor up to date, so sorry if I said that, I was meaning
when it will be available. We discussed it at the ESC meeting, so the
state is in the minutes published on the QA, dev and projects lists.
> 
>>
>> Furthermore, if a language version was neglected once, it should be in
>> the project's interest to compensate it by keeping its translators
>> informed, not stonewall them.
>>
>> I thought I answered your questions, if you find it's too long, just
>> ping me again and I'd give you explanations (thanks Adolfo for providing
>> them).
> 
> You gave me a vague statement that "Christian will provide the lang
> pack", so first I waited, then sent him two emails, and got no answer.

Next time, please ping me, not him, he has already a lot to do.
> 
>>
>>  Let's not forget that translations are
>> done by volunteers, and if volunteers are treated this way, they just
>> lose interest.
>>
>> We are an open source project driven by volunteers, each of us has his
>> own speed and spare time and some areas of the project are lacking
>> volunteers, this is the case for infra.
> 
> Perhaps that should have been said in August.

I thought this is already known by community members.
> 
>>
>>  Sure, large languages will just have more and more new
>> people wanting to do the job but what about the small ones that have
>> just one or two translators?
>>
>> I see no large languages or small languages here, all languages are equal.
> 
> There are large and small languages. Large languages have millions of
> speakers, small ones have several thousands. Because small languages
> don't have the same resources, projects can very quickly run out of
> volunteers who are willing to contribute in them.

This is not because a language is spoken by millions that it gets more
volunteers, for French, we are two translators and I was alone for
years. So for localization, there is no small or large languages, we are
all equals.
> 
>> BTW did you give a try to Weblate, what's you feedback on it?
> 
> I used Weblate before, so however you put it together, I'm fine wit it.

Great, thanks for your feedback.
Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: admin rights and TMXs

2019-09-25 Thread sophi
Hi Valter,

Le 17/09/2019 à 18:21, Valter Mura a écrit :
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm checking the app and seem to work well. But I need to
> understand/clarify some points:
> 
> 1- Will there be a page where setting up the admin rights for the users?

There is no way for now for groups to manage their contributors. But you
can ask me at any time.
> 
> 2- Where can I download TMX files, separate per single and/or whole
> project?

Whole project is not possible I fear.
> 
> 3- If I click on the Translation Memory link, I cannot see anything in
> the below area. Maybe has it still to be uploaded?

Because it's not yet populated with the previous versions, but when
Christian will have migrated the other projects, translation memory will
have some memory :)
> 
> 4- Some problems with the localization of the program (Example: "Nearby
> strings" is translated in Italian to "Stringhe simili", which is not
> correct and is misleading, you can think that it is referring to similar
> strings, but actually it is referring to "neighbor" strings inside the
> package. Better "Stringhe vicine" or "Stringhe confinanti"). Please
> check your localization. I'll try to contact the responsible for the
> Italian localization.

Thanks for that, hope that it will be quickly corrected
Cheers
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[libreoffice-l10n] Migrating 6.3 project to Weblate

2019-09-25 Thread sophi
Hi all,

Christian will migrate the projects in Pootle to Weblate in the next weeks.
For offline translators, would that be a problem for you to have 6.3 on
Weblate and not more in Pootle?
Thanks in advance,
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[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Infra announce: Authenticating against gerrit using TDF's Single Sign-On system

2019-09-25 Thread sophi
Hi all,

Not sure you have read this message and not all of you are concerned,
but please read it if you use gerrit.
Cheers
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Sujet : [libreoffice-projects] Infra announce: Authenticating against
gerrit using TDF's Single Sign-On system
Date : Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:28:56 +0200
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Dear developers,

Please visit https://user.documentfoundation.org/edit (use your Single
Sign-On credentials to authenticate — if you don't have an account there
then please create one) and check whether you have “Gerrit” in the
“Linked profiles” section.  If not, then add the preferred email address
of your gerrit account [0] to the form above; a confirmation token will
then be delivered to that address, and “Gerrit” should appear in the
“Linked profiles” section after confirmation.

About 68% of the gerrit accounts who uploaded a patch set in the past 30
days are known to the Single Sign-On system.  These accounts can use TDF's
new OAuth2 IdP at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/login/ i.e., authenticate
through The Document Foundation's Single Sign-On system.

Unfortunately, due to the way the OAuth2 plugin work, if you try a new IdP
that is not linked to your existing gerrit account, then a *brand new*
account is created.  (This is no different than for other providers like
GitHub or Google.)  If that happens, then please *do not* start using the
new account, instead ask us to merge them ASAP at
hostmas...@documentfoundation.org
(or on IRC at #tdf-infra).  While merging a fresh account is painless, the
logic is more brittle (there is risk of breaking referential integrity) if
they're both actively used, so again please poke us ASAP.

In the not too distant future, TDF's OAuth2 IdP will become the *only* way
to authenticate against our gerrit instance: authenticating using other
OAuth2 or OpenID providers will no longer be possible.  We're unable to
give a precise ETA right now, as we need a higher ratio of patchsets
authors in SSO, but that will definitely be *in 2019*.  Later this week
we'll individually poke all recent patchsets authors that are still
unknown from our Single Sign-On system.  Once we deprecate other OAuth2
and OpenID providers, gerrit accounts that are still missing from SSO will
be effectively *locked out* until an infra team member manually tie them
up to the relevant LDAP DIT entry.

FWIW finalizing the migration to TDF's OAuth2 IdP is a prerequisite for
upgrading gerrit to more recent versions (with shiny new Web UI, ed25519
SSH key support, CodeMirror editor plugin, and more [1]).

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Missing features, project folder view and search across the whole project

2019-09-26 Thread sophi
Hi Sergio,
Le 26/09/2019 à 14:00, Sérgio Marques a écrit :
> This could be a dummy question, let's say that I want to translate all
> untranslated strings, one after the other as we used to do in Pottle, how
> can we do that?

I'm not sure to understand your question, but it's just like on Pootle,
you go from one untranslated string to another.
What I've done to get a better view of what I've to translate is to
activate the Untranslated column (click on the last icon after the
column names and check Untranslated) in the dashboard and I sorted the
view by this column.
Cheers
Sophie
> 
> Christian Lohmaier  escreveu no dia
> terça, 17/09/2019 à(s) 11:54:
> 
>> Hi *,
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:54 PM Cheng-Chia Tseng 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In Pootle, translators can search specific term/translation in the whole
>>> project, such as LibreOffice UI, LibreOffice Help, LibreOffice Online,
>> etc.
>>
>> You can also search in a whole project in weblate.
>> But what weblate doesn't offer is limiting search to a "folder" (since
>> weblate doesn't have concept of folders)
>> So in weblate it is either whole project or single file (component)
>>
>>> This feature enables translators to check existing terms or translations
>>> and fix them.
>>
>> Hmm. I wonder whether an additional Glossary-based check would fill
>> this gap in a more elegant way?
>> I.e. you add your terms to glossary/terminology and we maybe could
>> write a check for strings that don't have a translation that matches
>> the glossary.
>>
>> Weblate already has a default "inconsistent translation" check
>> https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-3.8/user/checks.html#inconsistent
>> that follows a similar idea (but is not enabled in our instance
>> currently, since same string is corner case in our project, and more
>> likely than not it is in different context that requires different
>> translation, so I'm afraid that check would cause too many false
>> positives) - and for same string weblate has dedicated "other
>> occurrences" section when doing regular translation, example:
>>
>> https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/scaddinsmessages/de/?checksum=f718cc3da84a2ebf
>>
>>> Listing the components as folders under the project and searching text
>>> across the whole project are quite important features in the daily
>>> translation workflow.
>>
>> But this also sounds also like something that can be done more easily
>> offline, with the po files directly?
>>
>> That said: if we were to have a solution for aggregation by folder, we
>> could put both help and ui into a single project solving your issue?
>> Not sure whether I did really understand the problem correctly.
>>
>>> The way Pootle works is designed to serve multiple translation files
>> under
>>> different projects which fits LibreOffice well while Weblate is not.
>>
>> Don't quite get that, since pootle also is limiting stuff on a
>> per-project basis. (but within the project it works on folders, with
>> automatic aggregation, that's right)
>>
>>> If we are moving to Weblate, and that should be solved to fill the
>> missing
>>> gap between them.
>>
>> Can you give a full example of what you do in pootle currently?
>> That would help me understand the issue better and maybe come up with
>> an easier workaround.
>> (Since adding folder-based view on weblate is nothing you should wait
>> for - that would likely take a while/if at all...)
>>
>> ciao
>> Christian
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Missing features, project folder view and search across the whole project

2019-09-27 Thread sophi
Hi Sérgio,
Le 27/09/2019 à 00:14, Sérgio Marques a écrit :
> Hi Michael and thanks for you reply.
> 
> That helps, but that way it also shows help content. If I go to Language ->
> Portuguese that setting doesn't have any effect.

I search yesterday evening how to solve that, but didn't find. I'll ask
Christian if we can make that setting persistent and set by default. If
some translators don't want it, they still could unmarked it.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Migrating 6.3 project to Weblate

2019-10-04 Thread sophi
Hi,
Le 04/10/2019 à 12:33, Sveinn í Felli a écrit :
> Þann 4.10.2019 10:16, skrifaði Christian Lohmaier:
>>   c) for those projects really wanting to upload all at once: use the
>> weblate client program and use a script to automate the upload using
>> the API:
>> https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-3.8/wlc.html
> 
> This is interesting. I guess that those who are susceptible to use batch
> upload/download are mostly language coordinators with some scripting
> experience. We could of course share our scripts here.

That's a good idea :) maybe best would be to store them in the 10n part
of the wiki?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Searching in Weblate

2019-10-15 Thread sophi
Hi Kees,

Le 06/10/2019 à 09:34, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit :
> I tried searching in Weblate.
> I searched for the reference E6L2o.
> In Pootle I got a match after about 10 seconds
> In Weblate it took several minutes and it found no match.
> I did the following in weblate:
> In the main window I went to Tools > Find (don’t know the exact English
> words, because I see them in Dutch)
> I fill in the searched item in the box Find.
> I tick all the boxes.

Why did you tick all the boxes when you know you search for a comment?

> I leave the rest unchanged.
> I chose my language. (it will be useful if my language is default)

It will stay at your preferred language in the search box, but yes I
agree that it takes some time. I'll see with Cloph and Guilhem is there
is something we can do to speed up the process.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Searching in Weblate

2019-10-15 Thread sophi
Hi Yaron,
Le 06/10/2019 à 09:47, Yaron Shahrabani a écrit :
> So I'm guessing you can file a bug against Weblate to add a feature to
> search in context.

There is already a search for context strings, or did you mean something
else?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Wrong translations of formula function names and identifiers [3/3]

2019-10-17 Thread sophi
Hi,
Le 17/10/2019 à 09:35, Milos Sramek a écrit :
> Hi Eike,
> I did not get attachment in any of your three messages. Is this only my
> problem?

Attachments are not allowed on the list,
@Eike maybe add them to an issue?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Wrong translations of formula function names and identifiers [3/3]

2019-10-17 Thread sophi
Hi,
Le 17/10/2019 à 12:49, Eike Rathke a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> On Thursday, 2019-10-17 09:53:51 +0200, sophi wrote:
> 
>> Attachments are not allowed on the list,
> 
> This list configuration not even allowing text/plain attachments gets on
> my nerves..
> 
>> @Eike maybe add them to an issue?
> 
> Done: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128200

Thanks a lot!

@all, please check your translations in the two files uploaded on the
issue. Your language code is after translations/source/ in the path.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Wrong translations of formula function names and identifiers [3/3]

2019-10-17 Thread sophi
Hi,
Le 17/10/2019 à 14:25, Mihkel Tõnnov a écrit :
> sophi (), 17. oktoober 2019 kell 10:54:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Le 17/10/2019 à 09:35, Milos Sramek a écrit :
>>> Hi Eike,
>>> I did not get attachment in any of your three messages. Is this only my
>>> problem?
>>
>> Attachments are not allowed on the list,
>> @Eike maybe add them to an issue?
>>
> 
> Strange, I saw the attachments (all three). Luckily my language wasn't
> affected.

I realized that it's also visible fro the archive here:
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/msg12195.html

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Current status of Weblate?

2019-11-04 Thread sophi
Le 02/11/2019 à 15:41, Allan Nordhøy a écrit :
> 
> Den 02.11.2019 14:32, skrev Ilmari Lauhakangas:
>> Allan Nordhøy kirjoitti 2.11.2019 klo 15.21:
>>> Den 02.11.2019 14:15, skrev Stanislav Horáček:
>>>> Is addressing of these issues planned? In other words, is it worth to
>>>> wait with translation, or should we live with what we have now?
>>> Depends what you mean. Translations are not saved on the demo interface
>>> now AFAIK.
>>
>> The translations on https://weblate.documentfoundation.org are saved.
>> They will not be thrown away.
> On closer inspection it was just
> https://weblate.documentfoundation.org/user/kingu/ not having sufficient
> rights to save translations.
> If someone can add that, it would be great. I did not attend LibOCon
> unfortunately.

You were not a translator in Pootle, you role was "member", if Olav is
ok, I can add you as a translator in Weblate.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Tamil Localisation of Libre Office

2019-11-19 Thread sophi
Hi,

If you need any help with your account let me know
Cheers
Sophie
Le 19/11/2019 à 07:15, அருண் குமார் (Arun Kumar) a écrit :
> வணக்கம் பாலாஜி
> 
> ஏற்கனவே குழு உருவாகி 5.x பதிப்புவரை 85% மேலான மொழிப்பெயர்ப்புகள் தமிழா
> குழுவைச் சார்ந்த மற்றும் ரெட்ஹேட் நிறுவனம் மூலமும் பங்களிப்பு செய்யப்பட்டு
> வந்துள்ளது. 2 வருடமாக தொய்வில் உள்ளது.
> 
> கீழ்க்கண்ட தளத்தில் உங்கள் பயனர் கணக்கைத் திறந்து பங்களிக்கவும்
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/ta/
> 
> ஏற்கனவே தளத்தில் உள்ள பங்களிப்புகளைப் பார்ப்பதன் மூலம் உங்களுக்குப்
> பங்களிக்கத் துணைபுரியும் என நம்புகிறேன்.
> 
> நன்றி
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> Arun
> 
> ஃஃ
> அன்புடன்
> அருண்
> நுட்பம் நம்மொழியில் தழைக்கச் செய்வோம்
> http://thangamaniarun.wordpress.com
> ஃஃ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> செவ்., 19 நவ., 2019, பிற்பகல் 1:52 அன்று, Balaji Ravichandran <
> rbalaji...@gmail.com> எழுதியது:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I am Balaji from Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu[1] (FSFTN) . FSFTN is
>> planning to involve our Volunteers[2] in Localising the Libre Office
>> Package to Tamil. I would like to know if there are any Tamil Translation
>> currently going on or Could the Community help us on creating a new one for
>> Tamil
>>
>> Tamil Language Code - ta
>>
>> Links :-
>> [1] https://blog.fsftn.org
>> [2] https://wiki.fsftn.org/doku.php?id=localisation
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate -downloading the cy-GB tranlation of LibreOffice UI Master

2019-11-19 Thread sophi
Hi Rhoslyn,
Le 18/11/2019 à 18:58, Rhoslyn Prys a écrit :
> Is there a way to download and upload the complete set of  po files in
> LibreOffice UI Master in Weblate?

Not an easy one at the moment, we are working to provide a solution
> 
> I've been doing some translation in Weblate and it's not working for me.
> No translation memory, machine translation is slow or non existent, grey
> print that does my glaucoma no good... I did not expect to be
> retranslating common words in a project of this size and age. Saving
> each string takes about 5 - 25 seconds.

So I'll sort your request one by one:
- translation memory: we are also working on adding Amagama
(https://github.com/translate/amagama), Christian is on it, to solve
this problem
- what do you mean by machine translation, you mean propagation of same
translations?
- could you let me know exactly where is the grey print?
- saving should not take you so long, from the feedback we had, it was
when going backward.
> 
> Pootle was better than this.  Why put us through this?

Because as I wrote already Pootle is not maintained any more, we have to
find a replacement for it. We are still in adjustment period trying to
find the best solutions for all of us. I'll post another mail with the
actual status on where we stand, please read it.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

2019-11-19 Thread sophi
Hi all,

I know how it's difficult to change a so important tool and our work
habits, so first I wanted to thank you all for your participation in a
constructive way to the test and the migration.

Some information on where we stand:
- Christian is currently adding Amagama to the translation memory, we
hope that will speed up the process
- The main problem seems that we can't download all files in one step,
here also Christian is looking at a way to download via Gerrit and avoid
using command line and API.
- Since the migration is not over, Weblate is not running on it's own
hardware yet, so that might be the problem we meet with the slowness on
some tasks, this is something we are monitoring
- we have form a group with OpenSuse, KDE and Fedora to push and share
our development needs. We will have a workshop during FOSDEM, if you are
there, please join the discussion :)

Don't hesitate to send your feedback to the list or to me, we need it to
improve the tool to best suits our needs.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate -downloading the cy-GB tranlation of LibreOffice UI Master

2019-11-19 Thread sophi
Hi Rhoslyn,
Le 19/11/2019 à 17:35, Rhoslyn Prys a écrit :
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> The problem is that you have moved to a new platform with out it being
> set up properly and proper testing. Saying things like 'Not an easy one
> at the moment, we are working to provide a solution' and '...we are also
> working on adding...' shows a lack of consideration for your translators
> who contribute freely of their precious time. 

And I'm part of those translators who contributes freely on my precious
time :-) There was a test period and we can't test it on all the cases
without people involved.

Why not ask a small group
> of translators to get involved in developing a new platform, whilst the
> rest continue until it's bullet-proof?

Because I'm afraid we don't have that resource, do you know a team ready
to develop a new platform for ~100 languages?
> 
> I know Pootle is not being supported, I had a chat with one of the
> ex-devs recently, but it's not broken, LibreOffice Weblate as is is not
> fit for purpose, it may never be, it was not set up for a large project
> like LO.

Lots of different projects are using it, it is well supported and we are
joining forces with other open source projects to be able to sustain the
tool we use.
> 
> Have you considered Mozilla's Pontoon? LO's senario is similar to
> Mozilla's with Pootle's demise. It's a large scale +100 language
> translation tool using .po files, that may fit better than Weblate.

We will face the same that we faced with Mozilla tools we have used by
the past, they could just abandon it when they don't need it anymore
like Moztrap for example.
> 
> Weblate UI translation (
> https://hosted.weblate.org/translate/weblate/master/cy/?type=todo&offset=10#machine
> ) includes machine translation by Google and Microsoft. Are these going
> to be included? They work well for Welsh. Something was appearing at
> times under the Machine Translation tab, whilst I worked on the strings.
> I though it was the delay. I'd translated the string by the time the
> response appeared.

They are not activated and I won't be in favor to add non open source
resources, but that is a discussion we can have on this list of course.
> 
> I notice that there are new strings on Pootle LibreOffice 6.3 - UI -
> (https://translations.documentfoundation.org/cy/) are these the new
> strings in Weblate or are they different
> 
> Are we still using Pootle?

As you may have read in the past discussions on this list, we have made
a test on Weblate with only master on it. The testing period is over and
we are now adapting the feedback we had still on master before migrating
the rest of the projects.
So all the other projects are currently on Pootle and updated on Pootle.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

2019-11-19 Thread sophi
Hi Khagaroth,
Le 19/11/2019 à 19:49, khagaroth a écrit :
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:14 PM sophi  wrote:
> 
>> - The main problem seems that we can't download all files in one step,
>> here also Christian is looking at a way to download via Gerrit and avoid
>> using command line and API.
>>
> Use Weblate 3.9.
> 
Thanks for your feedback, did you tested it? I see: 'Added ZIP download
for more translation files' in the release notes, but does it allow to
add all files of project to a zip?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

2019-11-20 Thread sophi
Hi Yaron,

Le 19/11/2019 à 23:01, Yaron Shahrabani a écrit :
> Which parts of this feedback was shared with Michal, the lead developer of
> Weblate?
> Is there any documentation about the reported bugs and where they stand?

Weblate bug reports are here: https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues
> i
> I'm asking because I think that if the suggestion is to try and develop a
> new system instead of investing in Weblate I believe it's a waste of time.

Where did you see that suggestion to develop a new system? I wrote that
we share forces with other open source projects using or migrating to
Weblate and Michal is part of the discussion.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

2019-11-20 Thread sophi
Hi Sveinn,

Le 20/11/2019 à 09:30, Sveinn í Felli a écrit :
> Since Weblate 3.9 seems to address downloading of multiple files and
> work is in progress for grouping files (aka. being able to see our
> branches more like a folder-like structure, not a list with all
> individual files, right?), then I'm optimistic for the future.

 :-)
> 
> Nevertheless, testing should be thorough before we depend solely on this
> tool, and some kind of statistics would be nice to have when assessing
> the impact of such a migration. For example, comparing translation
> percentages of LibreOffice 6.3 and the next release (7.0) would give us
> some indication, even if it's not really comparable.

I agree with you, that's why we need feedback either from those who
already use Weblate or from those discovering it (BTW there is no 7.0
yet ;) Sharing is important here.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

2019-11-20 Thread sophi
Hi Khagaroth,
Le 19/11/2019 à 20:43, khagaroth a écrit :
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:15 PM sophi  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your feedback, did you tested it? I see: 'Added ZIP download
>> for more translation files' in the release notes, but does it allow to
>> add all files of project to a zip?
>>
> Yes it downloads a ZIP of the whole project / component / language
> depending where in the project hierarchy you use the download option.

Thanks a lot for your feedback, I didn't realized there were already two
new releases in October :)

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

2019-11-20 Thread sophi
Hi Ilmari,
Le 19/11/2019 à 20:19, Ilmari Lauhakangas a écrit :
> sophi kirjoitti 19.11.2019 klo 21.15:
>> Hi Khagaroth,
>> Le 19/11/2019 à 19:49, khagaroth a écrit :
>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:14 PM sophi  wrote:
>>>
>>>> - The main problem seems that we can't download all files in one step,
>>>> here also Christian is looking at a way to download via Gerrit and
>>>> avoid
>>>> using command line and API.
>>>>
>>> Use Weblate 3.9.
>>>
>> Thanks for your feedback, did you tested it? I see: 'Added ZIP download
>> for more translation files' in the release notes, but does it allow to
>> add all files of project to a zip?
> 
> That is what they advertise:
> 
> "If you like to download the package of all translations of your
> project, component, or language, get the ZIP of your choice with one
> click now."
> https://weblate.org/en/news/archive/new-weblate-39/

Great, thanks :)
Cheers
Sophie

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