[libreoffice-l10n] [PROPOSAL] New project for dictionaries

2016-04-25 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hello community,

I was having some discussions with dictionary maintainers and come to a
completely new idea for a new project!

The TL;DR version: Provide a central place for dictionaries maintainers
including useful tools plus a possibility for easier collaboration.

The long version: LibreOffice uses dictionaries based on Hunspell.
Hunspell is a free, open source project. Many applications do support
Hunspell based dictionaries. The following list (but not
exclusive) of applications supporting Hunspell based dictionaries is
shameless copied from the German Wikipedia:
* AOO
* LibO
* Mozilla products
** Thunderbird
** Seamonkey
** Firefox
* Latex IDEs: WinShell, TexWorks, LyX, Texmaker, TeXstudio, etc.
* Google Chrome
* The Bat
* Emacs
* Opera Web Browsr
* Apple Mac OS X 10.6+
* Adobe InDesign
* Adobe FrameMaker
* SoftMaker Office
* Scribus
and many, many more applications.

Some applications additional provide their own dictionary extension page
to download dictionaries. Moreover depending on the applications, the
dictionary have to be differently packed (simplest example is a
different file extensions)

Some projects do maintain their extension separately (independently).
Also the user who wants to propose a change / an addition has mostly no
easy solution to find out whom to contact to get another word added.

The basis idea is to provide a portal which provides tools to pack the
word lists to dictionaries automatically by scripts and - if possible -
to update and upload the new version of the dictionary to the download
pages. (e.g. the extension centre of AOO / LO or Mozilla's page) The
portal should provide a way for users to help the maintainers and
proposing new words or contact the maintainer if there are errors in the
word list.

The manual work of packaging the extension is very time consuming and
moreover leads to situations that there might be multiple maintained
versions for the same language. By providing tools to create a new
version of the dictionary the maintainer can invest their time in
improving the dictionary and release easily more often a new version.

I'm eager to hear what do you thing about this idea.

Regards,

Dennis Roczek

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [PROPOSAL] New project for dictionaries

2016-04-25 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Michael,

Am 25.04.2016 um 14:23 schrieb Michael Bauer:
> I think the different licenses across products might be a problem.
> But not an expert.
In comparison to the Apache Foundation the Document Foundation has no
particular open source license mentioned in our statutes. The Document
Liberation Project for example uses many different licenses across the
different libraries.

> On the whole, I'm not sure if the packaging is actually the
> biggest stumbling block for the end user
Well the ideal part is that somebody provides an pre-backed "Binary" /
extension.

> but the actual installation/implementation. Some are very easy,
> like Mozilla or LO, you just get the file and it either
> auto-installs or you click it. Others, like Trados, you have to
> find the folder for the dic file, you have to manually add (if it's
> not bundled) the locale to an XML file ... and pray it works.
> Others, like Chrome, you can't actually add a spellchecker for a
> language that Google hates.
We actually cannot do anything about the different implementations.
But we could provide as easiest packages as possible.

> Though perhaps if there was a central place on the web for all
> these so there's a single place where devs could point their
> software for grabbing Hunspell dictionaries that might make things
> easier. I'd be all up for that but it would probably end up an
> exercise in herding cats. Maybe forking existing dictionaries might
> be worth considering, if the owners are either non-communicative or
> not interested?
If the maintainers are not responsive (or if the dictionary is
abandoned), we actually cannot do anything as long as we have no new
maintainer for a fork. If there is somebody willing to overtake the
development, then forking of that particular dictionary is indeed a
possibility.

> Michael

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [PROPOSAL] New project for dictionaries

2016-04-27 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Michael,
Hi toki,

but that's the whole point: getting the actual system easier and include
more contributors.

I have no clear understanding which languages uses which kind of system
and scripts. But as far as I know: many who uses scripts to get the
extensions packed, simply use homegrown / self-made scripts in any
language or simply pack the extension manually.

Do try to get the system running, provide a system (hosted / maintained
by TDF) and everybody would use the same system to create new
dictionaries - it will become superior after time. Additional systems
(e.g. Mozilla based products for the easiest example) can be added later
.

The point about the affix file: I imagined the system more on a much
lower base: Joe Average is computer affine and realized that the system
is based on volunteer work and sends his "customs"/unknown words to the
maintainer (either e.g. a web page, directly integrated within
libreoffice or whatever) and the maintainer (similar to the Language
Administrator in Pootle) decides if it goes in the dictionary or not.

@toki I really hope not that the maintainers do have *NOT* to learn git.
It should be more than an intelligent pootle system. (dunno how that
looks with the affix files, but we will find somebody who can do it - if
we want)

Moreover: that kind of system won't include that much resources (neither
human resource nor server source) to maintain. OTOH we might have
additional many new easy hacks for new developers who want to develop
new "skripts" to create extensions for other plugins or conversations to
other dictionary systems, or the like.

At the moment this is only a discussion if "we" find that useful. If the
"TDF" and volunteers are able to implement that in a technical way, Will
be a completely different story.

Dennis Roczek

Am 27.04.2016 um 23:40 schrieb Michael Bauer:
> 
> Sgrìobh Dennis Roczek na leanas 25/04/2016 aig 15:33:
>> If the maintainers are not responsive (or if the dictionary is
>> abandoned), we actually cannot do anything as long as we have no new
>> maintainer for a fork. If there is somebody willing to overtake the
>> development, then forking of that particular dictionary is indeed a
>> possibility.
> A couple of extra thoughts from an active maintainer of a dictionary a
nd
> the associated extensions.
> 
> In general, I'm interested in anything that brings together scattered
> resources and makes stuff more user friendly, be that end users or dev
s
> using it.
> 
> - there would have to be some sort of a locale-specific admin system f
or
> active maintainers joining. Crowdsourcing stuff works in big languages
> but if folk start submitting random stuff to a locale like Scottish
> Gaelic or playing with the affix file, that's a recipe for disaster.
> 
> - there are different ways in which people maintain their dictionaries
.
> Some edit the text file directly, others build from corpora, in our
> case, we use scripts to build from a dictionary database, which
> automatically generates the .zip/.oxt/.xpi files. One would probably
> have to consider different entry points if ones were to successfully
> attract people from different projects because I would NOT want to hav
e
> to start manually maintaining our file.
> 
> - one thing that hasn't been mooted yet would be making some provision
> for easily creating new dictionaries for new locales, something that h
as
> a loc-tech threshold.
> 
> Michael
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [PROPOSAL] New project for dictionaries

2016-04-28 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi toki,

Am 28.04.2016 um 13:01 schrieb toki:
> On 27/04/2016 23:30, Dennis Roczek wrote:
>> @toki I really hope not that the maintainers do have *NOT* to learn g
it.
>> It should be more than an intelligent pootle system.
> 
> The reason I mentioned GIT, is because there was (operative word _was_
)
> a group of people working on an extension for AOo/LibO to save documen
ts
> to GIT. The projected end result would be that all the individual woul
d
> have to know about GIT, was to click on this extension to either save,
> or retrieve the document from GIT.
there are still some projects, like the en_US or the en_GB dictionary.

>> looks with the affix files, but we will find somebody who can do it -

> 
> My impression is that there is a python library that takes word lists,
> and creates affix files from them.
:-)

>> If the "TDF" and volunteers are able to implement that in a technical
 way, Will be a completely different story.
> 
> Listing the technical requirements for the must-haves and nice-to-have
s.
Yeah, I think easiest would be to start to create a wiki page listing
* pro and Cons
* must-have
* nice-to-have
* could be added later
stuff (mostly features). Technical requirement mostly depends on the
implementation (e.g. phyton as mentioned above).

> jonathon
Dennis
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] English Dictionaries Project - Introduction by Marco Pinto

2016-05-03 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi *,

Am 01.05.2016 um 16:25 schrieb Marco A.G.Pinto:
> Hello!
> 
> This is what I have been doing for nearly three years.
> 
> I and other people realised that the bundled dictionaries were totally
> outdated and I had some difficulties setting up the technical stuff
> (Git, Gerrit, etc.) and I had a discussion on IRC that a push is very
> likely not going to be merged because of some licence problems and suc
h.
And in this paragraph is lying more stuff than some might imagine. Marco
is doing a great job, but because of the underestimate of the hunspell
features and the "wrongly" used git, he is not able to update the
bundled dictionary of LibreOffice (through the bundled one in AOO was
updated).

My proposal for the new project would solve many of the problems Marco
has. (if he would have used the project from the beginning, I'm sure we
can solve the actual situation with the en_GB dictionary).

I have started a wiki page for tracking proposals, ideas, pros and cons
together on one page.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Dennisroczek/CDP

Please feel free to improve the page!

> Thanks!
> 
> Kind regards,
>  >Marco A.G.Pinto
Dennis Roczek
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Cor,

On 24.10.2016 15:39, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 15:02:
> 
>> see here:
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide#Overview
>> on the screenshot, see the two links to download and upload the files
> 
> OK.. I've changed the wiki a bit.
> - The handle is right and for me only visible when I'm in a special pr
oject.
> - And the tab Overview is not shown for me.
> 
> I think more changes are needed, but I'm glad this past is clear for m
e
> now :)
> 
> thanks for your help
well we also have
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UsingOmega
T
how to use omegaT in the wiki. maybe that should also be linked. ;-)
> Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] My Account recovery link goes to SPAM

2016-11-20 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Sanjib,

On 20.11.2016 16:11, sn wrote:
> Dear Admins/Webmaster,
> 
> The password reset link in coming automatically inside the Spam folder
 in
> gmail. I think this needed to be care. As per google guidelines there 
must
> be the footer area describing the Company/Organization, Address and
> Unubscription link, which is missing in the password reset message.
> 
> I have to click on not spam and then only link appears.
this is the l10n mailing list, the discussion should take place at
the website mailing list.

Which site are you referring to?

Regards,

Dennis Roczek
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] _EXCEL2003 functions ?

2017-01-11 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Olivier,

On 11.01.2017 14:44, Eike Rathke wrote:
> Hi Olivier,
> 
> On Monday, 2017-01-09 19:39:04 -0200, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> 
>> Not sure if that was already addressed, I see many functions in help
>> with _EXCEL2003 suffix, but I don't see them in the UI (pt-BR).
>>
>> For example, I can't see function GCD_EXCEL2003 in Pootle although I 
see
>> it in the UI and in KeyID of my local build.
> 
> Same as the _ADD suffix, the _EXCEL2003 suffix is appended during
> runtime for some functions that are duplicated in the Add-In
> implementation for compatibility. There is no string resource for that
.
see also
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97815

>   Eike
Dennis
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A script to help with translations

2017-01-14 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Milos,

(I'm not a translator, but...)
where are the scripts? If you have attached them to the mail, then they
are stripped by the mailing list.

Best upload them to e.g. GitHub. ;-)

Dennis

On 14.01.2017 08:07, Milos Sramek wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> twice a year we get thousands of strings for translation. On the one
> hand this is good but translation of strings which we have translated
> many times in the past is pretty boring. So I have written a python
> script, which can translate strings using unique existing translations
.
> These are then uploaded using Pootle. Its functionality is similar to
> two tools from the translate toolkit: pretranslate and poconflicts. I 
do
> not use these, because: pretranslate requires pot files (we do not hav
e
> them) and produces fuzzy translations, which we do not want. poconflic
ts
> lists all conflicts, the script lists just those relevant to the
> actually needed translations (I plan to use poconflits later to fix
> conflicts).
> 
> The script is attached (I hope we can attach stuff here).
> 
> How to use:
> 
> 1. Download existing translations from Pootle (master as well as the
> previous version)
> 
> 2. translate using:
> 
> ./selftranslate.py -i idir -o odir
> 
> where idir is directory with po files to be translated. The output odi
r
> contains only files with changes which can be uploaded to pootle. In
> this case idir is used also as the source for translated strings. In o
ur
> case numerous translations may be missing (they were probably deleted
> when updating). You may use:
> 
> ./selftranslate.py -i idir -r rdir -o odir
> 
> where rdir is directory with other translation downloaded from Pootle
> (for example the previous version) (in my case additional 300 strings
> were translated)
> 
> 3. Upload to pootle: zip the odir directory and upload to Pootle
> 
> In Slovak translation there are quite some conflicting translatios. Th
e
> command
> 
> ./selftranslate.py -i idir  -g > conflicts.json
> 
> or
> 
> ./selftranslate.py -i idir -r rdir  -g > conflicts.json
> 
> outputs their list in the form (json)
> 
> {
>   "Start": "Začiatok/Spustiť",
>   "Spacing:": "Rozostupy:/Riadkovanie:",
>   "Collapse": "Zbaliť/Zmrštiť zo strán"
> }
> 
> where the alternative translations are separated by "/". Edit the file
> by deleting bad translations. (outputs of the previous two commands
> should be merged). If the conflict is OK or you do not know, just dele
te
> the line.
> 
> Then, translate using
> 
> ./selftranslate.py -i idir -r rdir -o odir -c fixed_conflicts.json
> 
> It will fix the conflicts in the json file, too.
> 
> In Slovak this has reduced the number of strings to translate to about
 1/3.
> 
> When uploading, I always test if it works by uploading just one zipped
> file (with its full path). I've never had any problems.
> 
> If you have questions, do not hesitate to ask :). The script was teste
d
> on Linux and a few python packaged needed to be installed (using pip)
> 
> best
> 
> milos
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Banned from this forum?

2017-02-02 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Kolbjørn,

On 02.02.2017 21:46, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
> I have not had a post from this list since 14th of December. Neither
> from us...@global.libreoffice.org
> A few days ago also the Pootle side was closed. (Site Maintenance).
> I have tried to reopen my accounts but no answer from the lists.
> What am I to do?
> As I am not able to read the list, please answer to my private address
.


this is a request either to hostmaster@tdf or for the website mailing li
st.

I have redirected your request (BCC). Be please be patient as many of
the admin team are at FOSDEM right now so it might need some time to
check what's going on.

Thanks.


> Kolbjørn
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Overwrite old pootle fiłes with "LibreOffice Master - UI"

2017-03-30 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Veto,

On 30.03.2017 15:51, Veneto ABC wrote:
> Hi all.
> In Venetian localization, I need to overwrite pootle files of "LibreOf
fice
> 5.1 - UI" and "LibreOffice 5.2 - UI" with "LibreOffice Master - UI" fi
les.
> Thank you.
> 
again: why 5.1? It is End of Life and there won't be any new releases
for 5.1!

Regards,

Dennis Roczek
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Hyphenation rules update

2017-09-29 Thread Dennis Roczek
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On 29.09.2017 10:29, Стоян Димитров wrote:
> Hello list,
Hi C.,


> We've identified and fixed an issue with Bulgarian hyphenation
> dictionary that's part of LO for years. What the process for updating 
it
> is?

If you know how to fix the dictionary yourself, then fix it and upload
the patch to gerrit like as you would provide a patch for libreoffice
itself. (just on another repository)

If you are not, then best create a bug report explaining what is wrong
and what's expected.

Dennis
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] User cannot be authenticated on wiki

2018-09-28 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi piotrekr1,

I have forwarded your mail to the hostmaster mailing list
(hostmaster@tdf...).

Best regards,

Dennis Roczek

On 23.09.2018 12:27, Piotr Roszkowski wrote:
> Dear language team i try to open account on wiki and start translating
 wiki’s, but i still get response like this: User cannot be authenticate
d.
> 
> Or Abnormal error from LDAP server
> 
> What i shpuld to do.
> My pootle account is:
> 
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/user/piotrekr1/
> 
> my login:
> piotrekr1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wysłane z aplikacji Poczta<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550
986> dla Windows 10
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 6.2 New Features video script for translations

2019-04-09 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Mike,

a "bit" late... but for the future:

On 29.01.2019 11:30, Mike Saunders wrote:
> It looks like that's not possible with Mediawiki syntax -- any
> header in between automatically resets the numbering sequence. I've
> looked around and not found any solution, but if anyone has one,
> please feel free to implement it :-)
> 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List#Specifying_a_starting_value

that's, the syntax...

# Amsterdam
# Rotterdam
# The Hague


Best regards,

Dennis
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Spellchecker for indigenous language

2019-05-16 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi sophie,
Hi Andrés,

On 16.05.2019 17:14, sophi wrote:
> Hi,
> Le 16/05/2019 à 17:00, "Andrés Chandía" a écrit :
>>
>>
>> Hi there I have created an spellchecker for Mapudüngun, but this language 
>> is not included
>> in the LibreOffice list of spellcheckers, so, is there anybody who knows who 
>> to address to ask
>> for inclusion of this language in the list?
> 
> You'll find useful information on these pages:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language
> Don't hesitate to come back if you have questions
I did understand the question, that Andrés already created one, or?

@Andés: If you really created already one, than a really big thank you.
You can simply create an account in the wiki and edit the page on your
own and add it.

> Cheers
> Sophie
Best regards,

Dennis Roczek

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] HSQLDB migration how-to

2019-06-13 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi *,

On 13.06.2019 12:27, sophi wrote:
> From what I understood during the ESC call last week (see the minutes at
> the end of this mail), it is transitional until the assistant does its
> job. For the moment, some cases are not took into account during the
> migration and can mess the database, this is what will be explained in
> the how-to, what you should do if your database is out of what the
> migration tool can process.
> The wiki page will adapt to the progress of the migration assistant
> until it's able to migrate all or most types of databases. Drew will
> blog also about the progress.
> So, I think it's better to have it in the wiki for the moment and have
> the help page for 6.4 when and if the migration assistant issues are solved.
Uhm, just for the case 6.4 will still have HSQLDB integrated (because of
existing problems): shouldn't we link to a wiki page with version
numbers so we can track the changes based on different versions?

Best regards,

Dennis
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] comparison list functions Calc and Excel

2019-07-12 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Kees,

On 12.07.2019 11:23, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> The Calc Guide, chapter "Formulas and functons", refers to a list for
> comparison of functions in Calc and Excel.
> Op page 19 it says:
> 
> However, the majority of functions can be used in both Calc and Excel
> without any change. A comparison list may be found on the LibreOffice
> wiki, linked from the Documentation/Publications page.
Uff, that's the old outdated comparison...

> I can't find a reference on the wiki though. Can there be added a
> hyperlink in this Calc guide?> If anyone can tell me where this list c
an be found, I can add the
> reference in the Guide, if wanted.
Please see:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Functions_comparison_of_LibreOffice_
Calc_and_Excel

which links to two documents:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Documentation/Public
ations&diff=next&oldid=148497
(archived version, which was moved to third party resources but never
made it to that new page; @Kenneth Hanson: any reason for that?)

So basically we are talking about MSO2013 vs. Calc 4(?) comparison liste
d at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Excel2013_Calc_Functions_Compar
ison.ods

Before updating the Calc Guide: I guess we finally should get these
comparison up-to-date and in a useful visual way.

A few years(!) ago I started a similar page for Apple Numbers - and it
is still on my todo-list - but well...
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Functions_comparison_of_LibreOffice_
Calc_and_Numbers
If you look at CONVERT_ADD for example, you see why I do need much time
as I was analyzing the stuff in-depth.

> King regards,
> Kees

Best regards,
Dennis Roczek
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] comparison list functions Calc and Excel

2019-07-13 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Kees,

On 13.07.2019 07:06, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote:
> Hi Dennis
> 
> Thanks for answering my question.
> I understand that the list is very outdated and need to be updated.
> Maybe it is best to leave te referring out of the Guide?
> At least until the list is updated.
well basically neither MSO nor LibreOffice added thousands new
functions, so basically all the functions are still the same and still
correct; so only a "few" are missing. And I guess most users do not use
these.



> Kind regards, Kees

Dennis Roczek
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] comparison list functions Calc and Excel

2019-07-14 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi,

On 14.07.2019 07:56, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote:
> Great. I will add a link to the file in the Guide.
better use some hub/tdf.io-Link, so that are able to modify the link in
the background when somebody is finally able to update the table.

Best,

Dennis Roczek
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] comparison list functions Calc and Excel

2019-07-16 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Kees,

> Hi,
> 
> On 14.07.2019 07:56, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote:
>>>> Great. I will add a link to the file in the Guide.
> better use some hub/tdf.io-Link, so that are able to modify the link in
> the background when somebody is finally able to update the table.
> 
>> Sorry, I don't know what that is.
I have created one:
https://tdf.io/calcexcelfunctioncomparison

Use that link. We are able to change the tdf.io-Link in the background
if we finally update the comparison.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me.

Best Regards,

Dennis Roczek
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirection of translated wiki pages

2020-09-16 Thread Dennis Roczek
Hi Ilmari,

thanks for taking care of that request in our Telegram group.

Am 16.09.2020 um 13:53 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas:
> Now, what is the general opinion? Should we switch to using
> Special:MyLanguage for all links that refer to translatable pages?

If I remember correctly, then Special:MyLanguage only works useful when
logged in. Our wiki is by default (logged out) in German. So most
readers will be directed to the German content although that might not
be useful.

But even if we would use English as default language: If you are reading
Russian FAQ pages and click on a link as just a simple reader (no
contributor), then you expect getting to a Russian page and not to a
German/English one.

I'm oppose to that change.

@Floeff: If I remember correctly that decision was made because of
having a German foundation. Most services do use English as default
interface language. Is there a chance that we switch the wiki also to
English?

Best regards,

Dennis Roczek


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Re: Untranslated strings in Labels and Business Cards dialog

2014-04-01 Thread Dennis Roczek

Hi *,

Am 01.04.2014 18:25, schrieb Thomas Hackert:
[...]

It would be a good Easy Hack for a non-programmer, to download
catalogs of label makers, and update label.xml -- remove obsoleted
entries and add current entries that people can actually buy
today.


That may be an easy hack, but I think this would also be really time
consuming ... :( Would it be possible then to split these by country
/ language and to provide them with the langpacks? Or would this be
impossible?


Well actually there is an easy hack bug 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70357 which I'm working on 
(unknowing that this bug existed) since September 2013! This is really a 
time consuming bug as I touched nearly evry page multiple times (by hand 
and with my bot)


So lengthy easy hacks aren't a problem, I think. Better create a bug and 
if needed we can split if requested.



Thanks for your answer and have a nice evening
Thomas.


Regards,

Dennis


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] certificate for https://translations.d.o expired

2014-04-10 Thread Dennis Roczek

Hi,

I created yesterday a ticket on Redmine at 
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/366


So our infrastructure team will handle this within a short time (hopefully).

Regards,

Dennis

Am 11.04.2014 04:08, schrieb Andika Triwidada:

Hello,

Any plan to renew SSL certificate for
https://translations.documentfoundation.org?
It was expired on April 8th.

Regards,
Andika




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Re: Pootle: error with Export View

2014-04-12 Thread Dennis Roczek
Same here with opera 12 (completely different browser engine!) and 
Windows8.1


Error reference code: 
fc5d86e761ba4bb4b91361287fc43f15$0c2cdd2c31244f750e58dbf6d50e553b.


Regards,

Dennis

Am 12.04.2014 16:24, schrieb Kolbjørn Stuestøl:

Today I got the the same error.
Using Opera 20.0 on Windows 7. Not tried on other OS's or browsers.
Opening the "Export view" from
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/nn/libo_ui/translate/cui/source/dialogs.po#search=snu&sfields=target

Copy of the error message:

An error has occurred. Thank you for your patience.

'NoneType' object is not iterable

If you need assistance, you may refer to this error
as*cd61db2f2ad24e43966ebfe484efe084$0c2cdd2c31244f750e58dbf6d50e553b*.


Kolbjoern


Den 16.03.2014 18:31, skreiv Sophie:

Hi Thomas, Kolbjørn, all,
Le 16/03/2014 17:04, Thomas Hackert a écrit :

Hello Kolbjørn, *,
On Sonntag, 16. März 2014 16:43 Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:

Den 16.03.2014 14:57, skreiv Thomas Hackert:

On Sonntag, 16. März 2014 13:12 Sophie wrote:

So I continue to test Pootle to update our guide.

thank you very much :)


There is an Export View button at the bottom of the Translate
page. If I click on it I got:
Server Error

An error has occurred. Thank you for your patience.
'NoneType' object is not iterable
If you need assistance, you may refer to this error as


213da8cec20a4507b46a6e76cf213d72$0c2cdd2c31244f750e58dbf6d50e553b.

I cannot confirm this with Firefox 29.0a2 (2014-03-15) under
Debian Testing i686 ... Maybe someone has fixed it in the
meantime? Though I have to say, that I needed to wait two or
three minutes, until the page has loaded ... :(


Workes fine, but a bit slow as you mentioned, using Opera and
Firefox on Windows 7. Btw I have never used this tag before.

me neither ... ;) Thanks for testing and have a nice afternoon

Ok, it works fine too with Firefox under Ubuntu and the error seems to
only appear with Chrome.

Thanks a lot for you feedback!
Cheers
Sophie








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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] wanted to suggestion improvements to pootle

2014-05-07 Thread Dennis Roczek

Hi Jay,

well you are already at the correct location. ;-)

Regards,

Dennis Roczek

Am 07.05.2014 17:15, schrieb Jay Philips:

Hi All,

I have been translating LibO's arabic help file with a friend and we had
notice a number of things that we thought could make it easier for
translators and wondered who to speak to about this.




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Help pointing to TDF wiki

2014-07-14 Thread Dennis Roczek

Well just reading some unread messages now...

I will move the French FAQ pages in near time as discussed on the fr ML. 
I'm preparing my bot (checking the source code as this requires some 
modification on AWB that I will hopefully be able to push upstream!) and 
with this run I wanted to move also the other FAQ pages (EN, German, 
zh-hans, etc.) to FAQ.


Is there now a consensus about moving to uppercase or not? (Faq looks 
ugly, Thunderbird is marking it as typo, and is simply not right, my 2C...)



Regards,

Dennis

Am 04.12.2013 23:57, schrieb Robinson Tryon:

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
To be more correct it should really be F.A.Q. and the dots would play
even more havoc than spaces often do.  Also we should always say
G.N.U./Linux rather than Linux, G.N.O.M.E. and K.D.E.

However as acronyms become used more frequently they gradually drop
the dots and then drop the insistence of upper-case.  FAQ is old and
faq or Faq is likely to become quite common.


Not to plunge too far down the linguistic rabbit-hole, but I believe
that initialisms only drop upper-case when they are in fact acronyms
that can be easily pronounced as words. Consider:

GNU is seen as 'Gnu' sometimes, GNOME is often 'Gnome', LASER is
laser, but (IMHO)
NSA is still NSA, KDE is rarely Kde, and FAQ is rarely Faq. Even
though we could pronounce these last two "kiddy" and "fack," we
pronounce them as individual letters K-D-E and F-A-Q, just as we do
with F-D-O and others).

But I digress...please ignore Tom and me as we go about our linguistic
jousting -- unless, of course, you find it as amusing as we do... :-)

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[libreoffice-l10n] [Wiki] Delete all Litmus pages?

2014-08-07 Thread Dennis Roczek

Hi everybody,

I'm digging again in very old pages and cleaning them or try to move 
these to useful positions (esp. if they are in any kind of DE/ FR/ PL/ 
TR/ or whatever subdirectory).


I just stumbled again over the "many" Litmus pages ( 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Litmus 
maybe more).


As Litmus is dead (even the gitorious link) and we don't use it and 
won't use it in future, can we suavely delete these Litmus pages and 
remove the references within the wiki? Is that OK if I do that?


Regards,

Dennis Roczek


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[libreoffice-l10n] RE: [libreoffice-website] WIKI: how to use {{Release-plan-one-line-interval}} template

2014-08-16 Thread Dennis Roczek
Hi Kevin,

well at the moment this is a test and a proof of concept. My initial idea 
behind these translations and templates were that only the English page has to 
be updated and then all corresponding language pages get updated automatically.

If you do want to see the actual status of this experiment, watch 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Dennisroczek/releaseplan
As you can see, not every stuff is working correctly. Feel free to improve the 
situation as I don't know when I will enough time to finish this experiment. At 
least I can say, that this is theoretical working but needs the last bugs 
resolved before rolling out.

To answer your question: the dateformat template doesn't have any effect on the 
zh-hans releaseplan page as this parameter is never called. This is another 
reason why I started this experiment
:-)

Regards,

Dennis Roczek

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Suo [mailto:suokunl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 5:18 PM
> To: LibreOffice Website
> Cc: Libreoffice ln10
> Subject: [libreoffice-website] WIKI: how to use {{Release-plan-one-line-
> interval}} template
> 
> Hi all,could someone guide me how to use the
> {{Release-plan-one-line-interval}} wiki template to show the release
> weeks and dates in localized format?I want to create this
> page:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/WikiAction/edit/ReleasePlan/zh-
> hansI copied the english wiki source
> from:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/WikiAction/edit/ReleasePlanI
> see this page uses Release-plan-one-line-interval template, for
> example:{{Release-plan-one-line-interval | 2013 | 47 | 2014 |  5 |
> [[ReleasePlan/4.2#4.2.0 release|4.2.0]]}}and I see the "Release-plan-one-
> line-interval" uses template "Week",
> "String-Week", "Date" and "Dateformat" to show week and dates.So, I
> added zh-hans to Template:String-Week, so now it looks like:{{#switch:
> {{{1|}}} | de = Kalenderwoche | zh-hans = 周: | en | #default = Week}}and I
> also added zh-hans to Template:Dateformat, so now it looks
> like:{{#switch: {{{1|}}} | de = iso | pt-br = jnY | zh-hans = iso | en | 
> #default
> = smdy}}But
> on:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/WikiAction/edit/ReleasePlan/zh-
> hansthe weeks and dates are still in english format:Week 47 , Nov 18, 2013 -
> Nov 24, 2013I want it to show:周:47 , 2013-11-18 - 2013-11-24Did I do sth
> wrong, or I missed sth?Thanks for your help!Kevin Suo
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] queries ...

2014-09-01 Thread Dennis Roczek

Hi Christian,

well it expalins what had happend. But it doesn't explain to fix it or 
to recieve the not recieved mails. (I do get these mails also from time 
to time)


Regards,

Dennis Roczek

Am 01.09.2014 14:28, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

Hi *,

Am 28.08.2014 16:31 schrieb "anne-ology" :


... what do these messages (see below) really mean?;
   I've been getting them in the us...@global.libreoffice.org
list
 yet these seem nonsensical since those list a subject line
which means nothing to me.


A bounce is a message that could not be delivered and is returned back to
whoever sent it. In this case gmail refuses to accept mails from yahoo
users. Yahoo uses DMARC and as the list modifies Tue message, the signature
attached to the original mail gets invalid.Yahoo has determined that those
messages should not be accepted b other mail servers. Gmail respects that,
thus it bounces.

The mailing list doesn't know why the mail got sent back and assumes your
address has become invalid. But before unsubscribing you right away, it
sends you the probe message. On the one hand to check whether your address
is still valid, and on the other hand to let you know that you didn't
receive one of the mails that were sent to the list.

Hope that this explains what's happening..

Ciao
Christian




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice installation wants to close Firefox?

2014-09-24 Thread Dennis Roczek

start --> run --> msconfig --> tab systemstart
depednding on you version it opens your taskmanager (win 8 and 8.1) or 
you get a list.


some applications  (3rd party tools) (having good experience with 
ccleaner) do provide some more useful information and a better interface.


the apps starting at startup listed there are "hidden" somewhere in the 
registry. don't ask me where.


Regards,

Dennis

Am 23.09.2014 um 18:13 schrieb Tom Davies:

Hi :)
with iTunes i hunted around for at least an hour in all it's menu's and
there was no option anywhere that let me set it to not start at boot-up.
There was nothing in the equivalent of
"All Programs" - Start menu - Start
I'm sure i could have figured a way to force it but then i remembered how
to kill processes through task-manager so i just did that instead.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 23 September 2014 15:35, anne-ology  wrote:


The simplest method to close these programs, should be to click on
each from the taskbar -
   saving anything which hasn't been ...
  then later they open right back up  ;-)
[mere seconds  ;-) ]

BTW - I don't know what Apple-Mobile is, but ITunes - as well as
other programs which happen to get into the start-up menu - can be removed
by clearing that and/or going into their individual properties/options and
re-setting that aspect -
   when these programs are installed, they'll ask whether you want
short-cuts and where these should be -
  [I always refuse the option to add to the start-up menu  ;-)]



From: Tom Davies 
Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice installation wants to close
Firefox?
To: Mihovil Stanic 
Cc: Andras Timar , LibreOffice-l10n <
l10n@global.libreoffice.org>



Hi :)
Windows often grumbles if you try to install anything without first closing
down ALL open programs.  Yesterday i had to use the;
Ctrl Alt Delete (dangerous right?) - Task manager
to force-quit iTunes and Apple-Mobile!!

I'd wasted a bit of time trying to poke around inside iTunes and in the
"Start" menu to try to stop iTunes from starting up at every boot-up but
apparently it doesn't like people to do that and 'needs' to run all the
time.

I was about to uninstall the Apple-mobile thing because the user has often
grumbled about his Android phone but just before doing so asked "So your
phone IS an Android then?".  He said "Yes". So i clicked the uninstaller to
start.  Then he added "It's a bloody Android iPhone".  So i hastily
cancelled!!  I can see this repair job is going to be tricky!
Regards from
Tom :)



On 19 September 2014 10:17, Mihovil Stanic  wrote:


Thank you for answer.
Don't see any LO plugins or addons in my FF.
I have only Java plugins and every addon installed was manualy installed
by me.

Mihovil

19.09.2014 u 11:09, Andras Timar je napisao/la:

  On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Mihovil Stanic 

wrote:


Installing LO 4.3.2 RC2 now and installation stoped with message that

it

needs to close Firefox to continue!?
Why would LO have anything with Firefox? Some new changes?

  LibreOffice provides a browser plugin (for ages, it's just been

removed from master).

Regards,
Andras









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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Number of locale users?

2014-10-13 Thread Dennis Roczek

Hi Mihovil,

Am 13.10.2014 um 10:42 schrieb Mihovil Stanic:

I think they are using RedMine now which requires one more unused
account...
Next suggestion, implement one account for all TDF/LO services. :)


Already on the to-do-list and work already begun.

Regards,

Dennis Roczek


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