Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Could string wording be improved?
yes, I agree with you. From: Michael Bauer Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:03 AM Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] Could string wording be improved? To: LibreOffice l10n I was helping someone last night who wants to switch their business IT to LO but was having a lot of trouble with converting a letter template to LO. I learned a lot about styles... but that aside, I also ran into a string which I feel is not worded as well as it could be, it's this: Perhaps I'm still misinterpreting the string "Same content on first page" but I struggled a lot trying to figure out what this setting actually does. It's partly to do with the fact that when you create a new page, the header is Default Header and not First Page. So when I tried to suppress the Header on subsequent pages, I initially did not attempt to untick this box. In the end, the right 'constellation' seems to be (to have a header only on the first page) to use First Page on the first page and leave "Same content on first page" ticked and to use Default on subsequent pages and to untick "Same content on first page". Now I'm not sure if the First Page header should actually display this setting but from the point of view of using this in subsequent pages, it occurred to me that wording this "Display same content as on first page" (might even need caps if it refers to the style) would have been clearer. The reason I'm posting this on l10n is because I was initially worried I had messed up the translation but turns out I didn't - but I was wondering how other languages translated this and if it works in other locales or if there also is a comprehension problem? Cheers, Michael -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Could string wording be improved?
Le 12/08/2014 15:03, Michael Bauer a écrit : > I was helping someone last night who wants to switch their business IT > to LO but was having a lot of trouble with converting a letter template > to LO. I learned a lot about styles... but that aside, I also ran into a > string which I feel is not worded as well as it could be, it's this: > > > > Perhaps I'm still misinterpreting the string "Same content on first > page" but I struggled a lot trying to figure out what this setting > actually does. It's partly to do with the fact that when you create a > new page, the header is Default Header and not First Page. So when I > tried to suppress the Header on subsequent pages, I initially did not > attempt to untick this box. > > In the end, the right 'constellation' seems to be (to have a header only > on the first page) to use First Page on the first page and leave "Same > content on first page" ticked and to use Default on subsequent pages and > to untick "Same content on first page". Now I'm not sure if the First > Page header should actually display this setting but from the point of > view of using this in subsequent pages, it occurred to me that wording > this "Display same content as on first page" (might even need caps if it > refers to the style) would have been clearer. Yes, in fact there is not a specific dialog for the First Page style, so it's a bit confusing. Your proposal clarify it and I agree also to add caps to really mean the style of the page. An alternative may be "Same content of First Page style". > > The reason I'm posting this on l10n is because I was initially worried I > had messed up the translation but turns out I didn't - but I was > wondering how other languages translated this and if it works in other > locales or if there also is a comprehension problem? I think there is the same comprehension problem if you respect the source ;) Cheers Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Could string wording be improved?
Hi :) I forwarded Michael's email to the Documentation Team but they have been very quiet about it. Probably because they are working at the Published Guides. They don't have the techie skills to deal with something like this so my message might be unduly stressing some of them. I might write to them again to let them know i am only seeking their opinion = NOT asking them to do the change themselves! Regards from Tom :) On 13 August 2014 13:47, Sophie wrote: > Le 12/08/2014 15:03, Michael Bauer a écrit : > > I was helping someone last night who wants to switch their business IT > > to LO but was having a lot of trouble with converting a letter template > > to LO. I learned a lot about styles... but that aside, I also ran into a > > string which I feel is not worded as well as it could be, it's this: > > > > > > > > Perhaps I'm still misinterpreting the string "Same content on first > > page" but I struggled a lot trying to figure out what this setting > > actually does. It's partly to do with the fact that when you create a > > new page, the header is Default Header and not First Page. So when I > > tried to suppress the Header on subsequent pages, I initially did not > > attempt to untick this box. > > > > In the end, the right 'constellation' seems to be (to have a header only > > on the first page) to use First Page on the first page and leave "Same > > content on first page" ticked and to use Default on subsequent pages and > > to untick "Same content on first page". Now I'm not sure if the First > > Page header should actually display this setting but from the point of > > view of using this in subsequent pages, it occurred to me that wording > > this "Display same content as on first page" (might even need caps if it > > refers to the style) would have been clearer. > > Yes, in fact there is not a specific dialog for the First Page style, so > it's a bit confusing. Your proposal clarify it and I agree also to add > caps to really mean the style of the page. An alternative may be "Same > content of First Page style". > > > > The reason I'm posting this on l10n is because I was initially worried I > > had messed up the translation but turns out I didn't - but I was > > wondering how other languages translated this and if it works in other > > locales or if there also is a comprehension problem? > > I think there is the same comprehension problem if you respect the source > ;) > > Cheers > Sophie > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
