Re: KX-T: Re: "improved?" panapatch
Thanks for the correction. To me, straight-thru wiring was straight-thru. Nice to know some reason to do one vs. the other. Quoting Charles Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just for reference, 568-B is not exactly "compatible" with phone wiring color > codes. 568-A is. > As long as you are using patch panels and patch cords you will never know the > difference though. > > But if you take jacks that are wired 568-B, then punch them down on a 66 > block for cross connecting, then the green and orange will be in reversed > positions. Since the KXT proprietary phones rely on the orange pair (3-6), > this could cause confusion... > In other words, a 25 pair cable coming out of the ksu will use the blue and > orange pair for the first extension. If you connect that to a jack wired > with 568-B, you will have to remember to connect the orange ksu pair to the > green pair on the jack. > > AT&T is the only phone manufacturer I know that liked to use 568b for all > their jacks. Since their small ksu's were usually modular to modular, it > didn't make too much difference... that is until you try to replace the > system with a Panasonic, and now find that all the jacks won't work right. > > As long as it works! > Charles > > - Original Message - > From: Tom Stewart > To: KXT Help List > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM > Subject: KX-T: "improved?" panapatch > > > As I said in an earlier email, I love the idea of the PanaPatch, but the > price > was too much for me (home owner/hobbyist), so I wanted to share my > experiences > with the group. > > I had wired my house quite some time ago with Cat5E cable, two runs per > outlet, and generally two outlets per room. The idea was one network port > and > one phone port (and one cable tv) per box. Since it was compatible with > standard phone wiring and plugs, I wired both data and phone jacks with > 568-B > wiring, straight thru. On the head end, the wiring terminates in a standard > 24 > port patch panel. So, for my situation, I bought another patch panel via > ebay, > and wired up a 25 pair cable to it, in very much the same fashion as the > PanaPatch, except that I dediced to do something with the fourth pair. For > > pins 1 and 8, I punched them down with one continuous pair (daisy-chained) > > which is terminated in an RJ-11. This I can plug into one analog jack on > the > front to provide one common "extension" to all jacks. In my case, I have > plugged it into the port that provides CallerID. In this way, I have > callerID > available at every jack; I just have to wire up a funky line cord with an > RJ- > 45 connected to two separate RJ-11's -- one of which connects pins 3-6 on > the > RJ-45 to 1-4 on the RJ-11 for the standard connection, and another which > connects pins 1,8 on the RJ-45 to 2,3 on the second RJ-11. This can then > get > plugged into a caller ID box for display. > > If I had to do it over, I *might* do the phone wiring as RJ-61 instead of > T568- > B, since currently the two outer pairs aren't twisted correctly for my > application. I'm hoping it doesn't matter... > > Anyway, just wanted to pass along the thought. > > _ > KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ > Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt > > > > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > _ > KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ > Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt > _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Re: "improved?" panapatch
> > AT&T is the only phone manufacturer I know that liked to use 568b for all > > their jacks. I remember the 568 variations as "B for Bell, A for All the rest. Look for an announcement next April about the new 568c and 568d wiring schemes. Michael N. Marcus AbleComm, Inc. www.ablecomm.com etc. _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Re: "improved?" panapatch
At 10:18 AM 9/30/2003 -0400, Michael N. Marcus wrote: >> > AT&T is the only phone manufacturer I know that liked to use 568b for >all >> > their jacks. > >I remember the 568 variations as "B for Bell, A for All the rest. > >Look for an announcement next April about the new 568c and 568d wiring >schemes. A, what a tease. Did you even do one last April? I must have missed it. Carl Navarro _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
KX-T: Patch Panel / 568A VS 568B
Chuck, Sorry, I thought I sent this to the list Those of us that "grew up" with At&t/Lucent/Avaya do the "conversion" in our head, without even thinking about it. When replacing a Merlin with any "two pair" system, we just punch the first pair to the first pair and the second pair to the third pair without even thinking about it There is no real good reason to use 568 A for anything unless you are dealing with the Federal Government. Don Ritchie - System Engineer Century Communications 460 East 270 Street Euclid, OH 44132-1708 216-731-3030 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charles Patterson wrote: Just for reference, 568-B is not exactly "compatible" with phone wiring color codes. 568-A is. As long as you are using patch panels and patch cords you will never know the difference though. But if you take jacks that are wired 568-B, then punch them down on a 66 block for cross connecting, then the green and orange will be in reversed positions. Since the KXT proprietary phones rely on the orange pair (3-6), this could cause confusion... In other words, a 25 pair cable coming out of the ksu will use the blue and orange pair for the first extension. If you connect that to a jack wired with 568-B, you will have to remember to connect the orange ksu pair to the green pair on the jack. AT&T is the only phone manufacturer I know that liked to use 568b for all their jacks. Since their small ksu's were usually modular to modular, it didn't make too much difference... that is until you try to replace the system with a Panasonic, and now find that all the jacks won't work right. As long as it works! Charles - Original Message - From: Tom Stewart To: KXT Help List Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: KX-T: "improved?" panapatch As I said in an earlier email, I love the idea of the PanaPatch, but the price was too much for me (home owner/hobbyist), so I wanted to share my experiences with the group. I had wired my house quite some time ago with Cat5E cable, two runs per outlet, and generally two outlets per room. The idea was one network port and one phone port (and one cable tv) per box. Since it was compatible with standard phone wiring and plugs, I wired both data and phone jacks with 568-B wiring, straight thru. On the head end, the wiring terminates in a standard 24 port patch panel. So, for my situation, I bought another patch panel via ebay, and wired up a 25 pair cable to it, in very much the same fashion as the PanaPatch, except that I dediced to do something with the fourth pair. For pins 1 and 8, I punched them down with one continuous pair (daisy-chained) which is terminated in an RJ-11. This I can plug into one analog jack on the front to provide one common "extension" to all jacks. In my case, I have plugged it into the port that provides CallerID. In this way, I have callerID available at every jack; I just have to wire up a funky line cord with an RJ- 45 connected to two separate RJ-11's -- one of which connects pins 3-6 on the RJ-45 to 1-4 on the RJ-11 for the standard connection, and another which connects pins 1,8 on the RJ-45 to 2,3 on the second RJ-11. This can then get plugged into a caller ID box for display. If I had to do it over, I *might* do the phone wiring as RJ-61 instead of T568- B, since currently the two outer pairs aren't twisted correctly for my application. I'm hoping it doesn't matter... Anyway, just wanted to pass along the thought. _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt -- Microsoft Windows: Proof that P.T. Barnum was correct. -- Microsoft Windows: Proof that P.T. Barnum was correct. _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
KX-T: Simple Door Bell Interface
Hi, Does anyone have suggestions on how to make an unused KX-TD816 CO Port "ring" for 15 seconds when a simple door bell button is pushed? Thanks, Chris. _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Simple Door Bell Interface
Viking makes a door unit that connects to a co line. The ringing is adjustable. Chris Fowler wrote: Hi, Does anyone have suggestions on how to make an unused KX-TD816 CO Port "ring" for 15 seconds when a simple door bell button is pushed? Thanks, Chris. _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
KX-T: Re: Simple Door Bell Interface
I do this all the time with "Cartell" systems. I use a homemade ring generator made out of scrap stuff. I'm fond of using a cheap 120v to 12v transformer (like from Radio Shack) backwards.then I power the setup (through the NO contacts of the Cartell, or a pushbutton) with some sort of current limited 120v to 6-8v transformer. The old Princess and Trimline transformers we all find all the time disconnected in basements work GREAT!!! The KSU doesn't seem to be frequency sensitive, and the 80 volts or so of low current 60HZ AC rings up the CO port just fine. I usually set distinctive ringing for the doorbell or Cartell port so they know it's not an incoming call. FWIW, using a doorphone card and just giving a short to the doorbox pair (with an UNLIGHTED) button is another way Jim Schultz Schultz Communications - Original Message - From: "Chris Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: KX-T: Simple Door Bell Interface > Hi, > > Does anyone have suggestions on how to make an unused KX-TD816 CO Port > "ring" for 15 seconds when a simple door bell button is pushed? > > Thanks, > Chris. > > > _ > KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ > Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
