Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 ports expired today

2013-07-01 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, July 01, 2013 a las 09:59:48AM +0200, René Ladan escribió:

> Hi,
> 
> the KDE3 ports (263 of them) expired today. They were marked for
> removal since December 30, so the plan is to remove them soon.
> 
> Regards,
> Rene

Hi,

We have (perhaps) all seen this in UPDATING and while compiling qt3*
ports; I think, it is not a good idea deleting the KDE3 ports (which do
compile) from our ports tree, while the KDE4 ports do not compile, at
least not on i386 architecture. See the PR's about automoc4 and others.

Just my humble opinion

matthias

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Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 ports expired today

2013-07-01 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 10:20:22AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Monday, July 01, 2013 a las 09:59:48AM +0200, René Ladan escribió:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > the KDE3 ports (263 of them) expired today. They were marked for
> > removal since December 30, so the plan is to remove them soon.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Rene
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We have (perhaps) all seen this in UPDATING and while compiling qt3*
> ports; I think, it is not a good idea deleting the KDE3 ports (which do
> compile) from our ports tree, while the KDE4 ports do not compile, at
> least not on i386 architecture. See the PR's about automoc4 and others.
> 
> Just my humble opinion
> 
>   matthias
> 

Problem is that kde3 is not maintained anymore upstream, not security reviews
are performed any more etc. It has been deprecated for 6 month, and no one came
up to:
1/ take maitainership of kde3
2/ import the maintained and supported trinity project.

regards,
Bapt


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Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 ports expired today

2013-07-01 Thread René Ladan
2013/7/1 Matthias Apitz :
> El día Monday, July 01, 2013 a las 09:59:48AM +0200, René Ladan escribió:
>
>> the KDE3 ports (263 of them) expired today. They were marked for
>> removal since December 30, so the plan is to remove them soon.
>>
>
> We have (perhaps) all seen this in UPDATING and while compiling qt3*
> ports; I think, it is not a good idea deleting the KDE3 ports (which do
> compile) from our ports tree, while the KDE4 ports do not compile, at
> least not on i386 architecture. See the PR's about automoc4 and others.
>
This looks like two different things to me, and maybe the absence of
KDE3/QT3 will accelerate fixing KDE4/QT4 on i386 and other affected
architectures.

René
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[kde-freebsd] Current problem reports assigned to k...@freebsd.org

2013-07-01 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Note: to view an individual PR, use:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker  Resp.  Description

o ports/179553 kdedevel/kdevelop-kde4: /gdb/breakpointcontroller.moc:53:
o ports/179202 kdex11/kde4-workspace (and elsewhere): automoc4 SEGVs on 
o ports/178063 kde[Patch] graphics/digikam-kde4 can't edit images
o ports/177901 kdedevel/kdevelop-kde4: breakpointcontroller.moc:53:51: e
s ports/177479 kdedevel/py-pykde4 doesn't saves port options
o ports/177059 kdedevel/cmake: /usr/share/cmake/Modules/FindLibXml2.cmak
o ports/177018 kdeCan't build devel/xsd
o ports/176901 kde[bsd.cmake.mk] disable rpath removal
o ports/176869 kdex11/kde4: klauncher crash while attaching virtual cdro
o ports/176862 kde[request] x11/kde4: supply debug libs for KDE binary p
s ports/176804 kdedevel/qt4-corelib 313633 does not build on 9-STABLE
o ports/174728 kdeLet textproc/soprano know about different odbc
f ports/173771 kdeCONFLICTS_BUILD for deskutils/superkaramba
s ports/173770 kdeCorrect CONFLICTS_BUILD for editors/calligra
f ports/172359 kde[PATCH] editors/calligra: Fix build with clang++ -stdl
f ports/169671 kdeeditors/calligra Spreadsheet throws and exception on e
f ports/165642 kdex11/kde4: keeps locking the screen.
o ports/165213 kdedevel/cmake: Reinplacement of paths in Modules is bad
o ports/156901 kde[patch] devel/cmake breaks with CC containing spaces
f ports/151154 kdeaudio/amarok-kde4 crashes on network activity if ports

20 problems total.

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Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 ports expired today

2013-07-01 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
Matthias Apitz  writes:

> We have (perhaps) all seen this in UPDATING and while compiling qt3*
> ports; I think, it is not a good idea deleting the KDE3 ports (which do
> compile) from our ports tree, while the KDE4 ports do not compile, at
> least not on i386 architecture. See the PR's about automoc4 and others.

To be fair, the problem with the random automoc crashes seems to be
specific to i386 on CURRENT (we do have binary packages for our released
versions after all) and dim@ was already taking a look at that a few
days ago.
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Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 ports expired today

2013-07-01 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, July 01, 2013 a las 10:26:13PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark 
escribió:

> While I have full respect for this decision I am another example of one
> that looses his desktop...
> 
> Actually, I'm not really using KDE3, but rather xfce but with the apps
> from KDE3 like konsole, kwrite, ksnapshot and a few others that I failed
> to see any good replacements for.
> 
> And security, well, not sure if this is that important for a desktop? At
> least we're warned.
> 
> And KDE4 is not an alternative, tried several times but gave up.

Are there any numbers how many FreeBSD(!) users are using KDE3 or KDE4?
If not, what about a well organized(!) straw poll? Just to see, if we are all
hunting in the right direction.

matthias
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Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 ports expired today

2013-07-01 Thread Naram Qashat

On 07/01/13 16:40, Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Monday, July 01, 2013 a las 10:26:13PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark 
escribió:


While I have full respect for this decision I am another example of one
that looses his desktop...

Actually, I'm not really using KDE3, but rather xfce but with the apps
from KDE3 like konsole, kwrite, ksnapshot and a few others that I failed
to see any good replacements for.

And security, well, not sure if this is that important for a desktop? At
least we're warned.

And KDE4 is not an alternative, tried several times but gave up.


Are there any numbers how many FreeBSD(!) users are using KDE3 or KDE4?
If not, what about a well organized(!) straw poll? Just to see, if we are all
hunting in the right direction.

matthias


I currently use KDE3, I never liked the direction KDE4 took. I did contemplate 
porting Trinity over to FreeBSD, but I never really had the time to do it, 
mainly because of how they are so scattered on how to build it (plus their build 
instructions are haphazard at best).


Even though the ports have expired, I'll probably continue to use KDE3 on my 
desktop.


Thanks,
Naram Qashat
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Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 ports expired today

2013-07-01 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, July 01, 2013 a las 08:05:37PM -0700, Jeffrey Bouquet escribió:

> bsdstats.org > ports stats would have that information probably

http://bsdstats.org/ports.php?category=91

says in column 'times in use':

x11/kde3: 534
x11/kde4:  86

matthias

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