List Flatpak runtime dependencies in a page

[TheEvilSkeleton]

Hi,

At the moment, as an outsider, it's quite difficult to check what 
dependencies the KDE runtime provides. We have to check through the 
manifest, which in my opinion is quite unintuitive.


To address that, I suggest a centralized page that lists these 
dependencies. My current idea is to list these dependencies along with 
freedesktop.org, elementary and GNOME runtime dependencies.


The idea is, well, an idea at best. I haven't thought of the 
implementation details or the interface of the page yet. I want to know 
if KDE is on board with this (as well as fd.o, elementary and GNOME).


I opened issue #1476 
 in 
the freedesktop-sdk repository to discuss it in one place. If KDE and 
other organizations are on board with this idea, then it would be 
fantastic! This will certainly help developers a lot.


Thank you for the consideration,
TheEvilSkeleton

Re: New releases for bugfixes

[Reindl Harald]

Am 09.09.22 um 11:42 schrieb samuel ammonius:

Thanks. I hadn't thought of a lot of these issues before.

I think the biggest one is that If there's an update that the package 
manager didn'tknow about, the user would have to update right after installing, and 
the bug would come back if the user re-installed or updated the app. Sorry everybody
no the biggest issue on the userside is that nobody wants every random 
application tamper the system


if i want applications asking me about updates i could have stayed at 
windows and "yum upgrade" was the main reason for Linux


when you open that can of worms imagine where it ends

security wise it's a nightmare because you not only have the 
distribution you need to trust - intrusion on any upstream would 
directly hit you at any random point in time while distribution updates 
are usually tested at least by some people and changes reviewed by 
downstream maintainers


and who does the work and deal with bugreports "the update of kate 
destroyed it on my system and i don't know why nor how i revert it"


with the package manager i type "dnf downgrade kate", file a bug against 
the distribution and kde upstream isn't involved at all


upstream opensource developers write the code, that's it, they don't and 
shouldn't need to care about every downstream distribution and it's 
pitfalls - it's wasted time because that's what downstream component 
maintainers are for


the fedora maintainer from kde likely has no knowledge about Gentoo, 
Ubuntu, SuSE for good reasons and you think blow that load to upstream 
developers would help anybody?


wasted time and resources