Re: [JPP-Devel] Search tool for Attributes

[Larry Becker]

Hmm.  Escaping every character sounds like it might be workable.  I'll give
it a try.

Larry

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Martin Davis wrote:

> Could you still use regex matching on the back end, but just internally
> escape the raw string input to turn it into a pattern?  I think this
> should be possible maybe by simpling escaping every char in the
> input string.
>
> Larry Becker wrote:
> > Yes, Eclipse has that option, however it would be much more difficult
> > to program without using the pattern matcher.  It would basically
> > revert to a simple exact match string comparison.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Martin Davis  > > wrote:
> >
> > Is it worth having an option to choose plain text or regex?  Some
> text
> > editors do this.  That way if a search string contains some of the
> > (numerous) special regex chars, the user doesn't have to escape
> > everything in sight.
> >
> > M
> >
> > Michael Michaud wrote:
> > > Larry Becker a écrit :
> > >
> > >>> @Larry : I think that the use of regexes should be mentionned
> > in the
> > >>> user interface of your search tool
> > >>> One reason is that the user will have to escape regex
> > metacharacter if
> > >>> he wants to make a simple search on (, [ ,*...
> > >>>
> > >> I agree.  I was just intimidated by the complexity of
> > explaining this
> > >> in a sidebar. :-)  Perhaps it would be enough to list the "special
> > >> characters".
> > >>
> > > Of course, I didn't think of explaining regex syntax in the
> > sidebar, but
> > > just mentionning that regex syntax can (or must ?) be used in the
> > > textfield so that users are aware that they can use or learn how
> > to use
> > > this powerful syntax.
> > >
> > > Michaël
> > >
> > >> Larry
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Michael Michaud
> > >> mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>
> > >>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> For a one page cheatsheet, look at
> > >>
> >
> http://www.addedbytes.com/download/regular-expressions-cheat-sheet-v1/pdf/
> > >> or
> > >>
> >
> http://www.omicentral.com/cheatsheets/JavaRegularExpressionsCheatSheet.pdf
> > >>
> > >> for a full site dedicated to regex :
> > >> http://www.regular-expressions.info/
> > >>
> > >> note : regex is also available in OJ's simple query plugin
> > >> ...and in postgresql (operator ~)
> > >>
> > >> @Larry : I think that the use of regexes should be
> > mentionned in the
> > >> user interface of your search tool
> > >> One reason is that the user will have to escape regex
> > metacharacter if
> > >> he wants to make a simple search on (, [ ,*...
> > >>
> > >> Michaël
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Larry Becker a écrit :
> > >> > That's it.  I've looked for a better (more user oriented)
> > reference,
> > >> > but never found one.
> > >> >
> > >> > Larry
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Martin Davis
> > >> mailto:mbda...@refractions.net>
> > >
> > >> >  > 
> > >>  >  > >> >
> > >> > Perhaps
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/regex/Pattern.html
> > >> >
> > >> > ??
> > >> >
> > >> > Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> By the way, since it uses the Java pattern matcher,
> > >> Search All
> > >> > >> Attributes supports many different meta-characters
> > to control
> > >> > the search
> > >> > >> such as ^ to match the start of a line and $ to
> > match the
> > >> end.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > > oha..interesting.. how to get to know these chars?
> > >> > > is there a table?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > stefan
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
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Re: [JPP-Devel] bookmark

[Larry Becker]

Hi Bing,

  Bookmarking views sounds like a wonderful idea.

Larry

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Bing Ran  wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> I'm thinking adding bookmarking to enable quick navigating to interesting
> points on a map.
>
> - point to a location on a map and issue "bookmark this point" without any
> feature selected, add comment, and it's saved in a bookmarks view.
> - select any feature and bookmark it.
> - without selecting anything, simply bookmark a zoom.
>
>
> Has anyone done something similar?
>
> Bing
>
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] bookmark

[Sunburned Surveyor]

Bing,

AutoCAD allows you to do something similar. They call it "Named
Views". Very handy in CAD, and would likely be helpful in OpenJUMP as
well.

SS

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Larry Becker  wrote:
> Hi Bing,
>
>   Bookmarking views sounds like a wonderful idea.
>
> Larry
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Bing Ran  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm thinking adding bookmarking to enable quick navigating to interesting
>> points on a map.
>>
>> - point to a location on a map and issue "bookmark this point" without any
>> feature selected, add comment, and it's saved in a bookmarks view.
>> - select any feature and bookmark it.
>> - without selecting anything, simply bookmark a zoom.
>>
>>
>> Has anyone done something similar?
>>
>> Bing
>>
>>
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[JPP-Devel] [Fwd: [jump-pilot - Problems with PlugIns] RE: Problems getting Oracle Connection]

[Stefan Steiniger]

it continues ;)

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff:[jump-pilot - Problems with PlugIns] RE: Problems getting 
Oracle Connection
Datum:  Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:54:22 +
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Read and respond to this message at: 
https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=6022088
By: nobody

thanx guys for the infor but i encountered another prob. i used the tns 
description
syntax

test1   (SISDB:oracle:DEV3.ADIN.CIPAL.BE:1521:DEV3.ADIN.CIPAL.BE = (DESCRIPTION
=  (ADDRESS_LIST =  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 
GEDBora5.vm.cipal.net)(PORT
= 1521)))(CONNECT_DATA = (SERVICE_NAME = DEV3.cipal.be))) :stage1:stagiair)

 but am getting the following error



org.springframework.jdbc.CannotGetJdbcConnectionException: Could not get JDBC
Connection; nested exception is org.apache.commons.dbcp.SQLNestedException:
Cannot create PoolableConnectionFactory (I/O-uitzondering: NL Exception was
generated)
org.apache.commons.dbcp.SQLNestedException: Cannot create 
PoolableConnectionFactory
(I/O-uitzondering: NL Exception was generated)
at 
org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource.createDataSource(BasicDataSource.jav
a:855)
at 
org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource.getConnection(BasicDataSource.java:5
40)
at 
it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.jdbc.JdbcDBDataImpl$2.getConnection(JdbcDBDataImp
l.java:260)
at 
org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils.doGetConnection(DataSour
ceUtils.java:112)
at 
org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils.getConnection(DataSource
Utils.java:77)
at 
it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.jdbc.JdbcDBDataImpl.getURL(JdbcDBDataImpl.java:21
8)
at 
it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.jdbc.JdbcDBDataImpl.connect(JdbcDBDataImpl.java:3
20)
at 
it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.openjump.SISDBDSConnection.getData(SISDBDSConnect
ion.java:47)
at 
it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.openjump.SISDBDSMetadata.readContexts(SISDBDSMeta
data.java:37)
at 
it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.openjump.SISDBDSMetadata.getDatasetNames(SISDBDSM
etadata.java:42)
at 
com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.datastore.AddDatastoreLayerPanel
$7.yield(AddDatastoreLayerPanel.java:270)
at 
com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.datastore.AddDatastoreLayerPanel
$2.run(AddDatastoreLayerPanel.java:76)
at 
com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.task.TaskMonitorManager$TaskWrapper.run
(TaskMonitorManager.java:149)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: I/O-uitzondering: NL Exception was generated
at 
oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:112)
at 
oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:146)
at 
oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:255)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CConnection.logon(T4CConnection.java:387)
at 
oracle.jdbc.driver.PhysicalConnection.(PhysicalConnection.java:414)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CConnection.(T4CConnection.java:165)
at 
oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CDriverExtension.getConnection(T4CDriverExtension.java:
35)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver.connect(OracleDriver.java:801)
at 
org.apache.commons.dbcp.DriverConnectionFactory.createConnection(DriverConne
ctionFactory.java:37)
at 
org.apache.commons.dbcp.PoolableConnectionFactory.makeObject(PoolableConnect
ionFactory.java:290)
at 
org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource.validateConnectionFactory(BasicDataS
ource.java:877)
at 
org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource.createDataSource(BasicDataSource.jav
a:851)
... 13 more


thank you 

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[JPP-Devel] Spam on SourceForge

[Larry Becker]

We're getting spammed on the SourceForge Forums. See:
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=729495

I wasn't even aware we had any forums on SourceForge.  This is in addition
to the trackers, and the Google Group.  It seems like a lot to keep up
with.  Is anyone monitoring them?

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[JPP-Devel] R: [Fwd: [jump-pilot - Problems with PlugIns] RE: Problems getting Oracle Connection]

[P . Rizzi Ag . Mobilità Ambiente]

I was missing it... :-)

First of all you should check your TNS with some other Oracle client,
to ensure the connection can actually be made with those parameters.
There are lots of reason why a connection to Oracle could not be extabilished...

Also check the OpenJump connection dialog, keeping in mind that when
using the "(DESCRIPTION..." syntax, the Address and Port field are not used:

Name=> name of the connection [meaningful only inside OJ]
Driver  => SISDB
Adapter => oracle
Address => dummy [this is _not_ used]
Port=> dummy [this is _not_ used]
Db  => (DESCRIPTION...  [complete TNS, _must_ start with "("]
Username=> the user name
Password=> the user password
Schema  => "-" [a single dash uses default schema for the specified user]

Bye
Paolo Rizzi


> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: Stefan Steiniger [mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch]
> Inviato: mercoledì 7 gennaio 2009 16.05
> A: List for discussion of JPP development and use.
> Oggetto: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: [jump-pilot - Problems with PlugIns] RE:
> Problems getting Oracle Connection]
> 
> 
> it continues ;)
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
> Betreff:  [jump-pilot - Problems with PlugIns] RE: 
> Problems getting 
> Oracle Connection
> Datum:Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:54:22 +
> Von:  SourceForge.net 
> An:   nore...@sourceforge.net
> 
> 
> 
> Read and respond to this message at: 
> https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=6022088
> By: nobody
> 
> thanx guys for the infor but i encountered another prob. i 
> used the tns description
> syntax
> 
> test1   
> (SISDB:oracle:DEV3.ADIN.CIPAL.BE:1521:DEV3.ADIN.CIPAL.BE = 
> (DESCRIPTION
> =  (ADDRESS_LIST =  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 
> GEDBora5.vm.cipal.net)(PORT
> = 1521)))(CONNECT_DATA = (SERVICE_NAME = DEV3.cipal.be))) 
> :stage1:stagiair)
> 
>  but am getting the following error
> 
> 
> 
> org.springframework.jdbc.CannotGetJdbcConnectionException: 
> Could not get JDBC
> Connection; nested exception is 
> org.apache.commons.dbcp.SQLNestedException:
> Cannot create PoolableConnectionFactory (I/O-uitzondering: NL 
> Exception was
> generated)
> org.apache.commons.dbcp.SQLNestedException: Cannot create 
> PoolableConnectionFactory
> (I/O-uitzondering: NL Exception was generated)
>   at 
> org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource.createDataSource(Basic
> DataSource.jav
> a:855)
>   at 
> org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource.getConnection(BasicDat
> aSource.java:5
> 40)
>   at 
> it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.jdbc.JdbcDBDataImpl$2.getConnection
> (JdbcDBDataImp
> l.java:260)
>   at 
> org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils.doGetConne
> ction(DataSour
> ceUtils.java:112)
>   at 
> org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils.getConnect
> ion(DataSource
> Utils.java:77)
>   at 
> it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.jdbc.JdbcDBDataImpl.getURL(JdbcDBDa
> taImpl.java:21
> 8)
>   at 
> it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.jdbc.JdbcDBDataImpl.connect(JdbcDBD
> ataImpl.java:3
> 20)
>   at 
> it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.openjump.SISDBDSConnection.getData(
> SISDBDSConnect
> ion.java:47)
>   at 
> it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.openjump.SISDBDSMetadata.readContex
> ts(SISDBDSMeta
> data.java:37)
>   at 
> it.ama_mi.sis.framework.db.openjump.SISDBDSMetadata.getDataset
> Names(SISDBDSM
> etadata.java:42)
>   at 
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.datastore.AddDatas
> toreLayerPanel
> $7.yield(AddDatastoreLayerPanel.java:270)
>   at 
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.datastore.AddDatas
> toreLayerPanel
> $2.run(AddDatastoreLayerPanel.java:76)
>   at 
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.task.TaskMonitorManager$T
> askWrapper.run
> (TaskMonitorManager.java:149)
>   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
> Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: I/O-uitzondering: NL 
> Exception was generated
>   at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseErr
> or.java:112)
>   at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseErr
> or.java:146)
>   at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseErr
> or.java:255)
>   at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CConnection.logon(T4CConnection.java:387)
>   at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.PhysicalConnection.(PhysicalConnectio
> n.java:414)
>   at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CConnection.(T4CConnection.java:165)
>   at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CDriverExtension.getConnection(T4CDriverE
> xtension.java:
> 35)
>   at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver.connect(OracleDriver.java:801)
>   at 
> org.apache.commons.dbcp.DriverConnectionFactory.createConnecti
> on(DriverConne
> ctionFactory.java:37)
>   at 
> org.apache.commons.dbcp.PoolableConnectionFactory.makeObject(P
> oolableConnect
> ionFactory.java:290)
>   at 
> org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource.validateConnectionFact
> ory(BasicDataS
> ource.java:877)
>   at 
> org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource.createDataSo

Re: [JPP-Devel] Spam on SourceForge

[Stefan Steiniger]

I am monitoring the forum and answer often too.

lets look what is going on.

stefan

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> 
> I wasn't even aware we had any forums on SourceForge.  This is in 
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> keep up with.  Is anyone monitoring them?
> 
> Larry
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Spam on SourceForge

[Stefan Steiniger]

interestingly we got spam only in Adulations and Testimonials (this was 
the only forum I did not monitor)

I set this forum to non-public and I started deleting the spam messages

stefan

Larry Becker schrieb:
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> 
> I wasn't even aware we had any forums on SourceForge.  This is in 
> addition to the trackers, and the Google Group.  It seems like a lot to 
> keep up with.  Is anyone monitoring them?
> 
> Larry
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Spam on SourceForge

[Larry Becker]

Thanks Stefan,

  I guess we do need some way for users to ask questions without
subscribing.

Larry

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Stefan Steiniger  wrote:

> interestingly we got spam only in Adulations and Testimonials (this was
> the only forum I did not monitor)
>
> I set this forum to non-public and I started deleting the spam messages
>
> stefan
>
> Larry Becker schrieb:
> > We're getting spammed on the SourceForge Forums. See:
> > http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=729495
> >
> > I wasn't even aware we had any forums on SourceForge.  This is in
> > addition to the trackers, and the Google Group.  It seems like a lot to
> > keep up with.  Is anyone monitoring them?
> >
> > Larry
> >
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> >
> > 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] bookmark

[Martin Davis]

In RoadMatcher we created something we called an Issues List. The idea
was that you could either select a feature or draw a box around an area,
and then mark it as an issue (with a state, title, comment, datestamp,
etc). Issues were actually just a special named layer. We had a modeless
dialog which looked like the Attribute View to let you zoom to issues,
sort them, mark them as done, etc.)

Fancier and less general than the Bookmarks idea. Bookmarks sound like a
great idea.

What is the scope of Bookmarks? Local to a single Task Frame (um - OJ
Project Frame?) The entire OJ instance? Would they be persisted and if
so how?

I quite liked the pattern of exposing things like this as a layer in the
Layer List (e.g the way the Fence works). Then users can use any
relevant tools directly on that layer. Basically then Bookmarks would
just be a special tool to create a Bookmark layer feature, and perhaps
(probably?) a UI dialog to allow friendly navigation around bookmarks
(although even this might not be needed - the Attribute View could serve
just as well for this.

M

Bing Ran wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm thinking adding bookmarking to enable quick navigating to
> interesting points on a map.
> - point to a location on a map and issue "bookmark this point" without
> any feature selected, add comment, and it's saved in a bookmarks view.
> - select any feature and bookmark it.
> - without selecting anything, simply bookmark a zoom.
> Has anyone done something similar?
> Bing
> 
>
> --
> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace.
> It is the best place to buy or sell services for
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Spam on SourceForge

[Sunburned Surveyor]

Larry,

I wasn't aware that anyone was using the forums. It's a good thing
Stefan has his crap together. :]

The users mailing list is on a Google Group, but this mailing list is
still hosted at SourceForge. I can't seem to remember why we moved the
user group to Google, but I'm sure there was a reason.

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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Larry Becker  wrote:
> Thanks Stefan,
>
>   I guess we do need some way for users to ask questions without
> subscribing.
>
> Larry
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Stefan Steiniger  wrote:
>>
>> interestingly we got spam only in Adulations and Testimonials (this was
>> the only forum I did not monitor)
>>
>> I set this forum to non-public and I started deleting the spam messages
>>
>> stefan
>>
>> Larry Becker schrieb:
>> > We're getting spammed on the SourceForge Forums. See:
>> > http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=729495
>> >
>> > I wasn't even aware we had any forums on SourceForge.  This is in
>> > addition to the trackers, and the Google Group.  It seems like a lot to
>> > keep up with.  Is anyone monitoring them?
>> >
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Re: [JPP-Devel] bookmark

[Michael Michaud]

>>   Bookmarking views sounds like a wonderful idea.
>> 
Yes definitively a good idea !

Michaël
>> Larry
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Bing Ran  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm thinking adding bookmarking to enable quick navigating to interesting
>>> points on a map.
>>>
>>> - point to a location on a map and issue "bookmark this point" without any
>>> feature selected, add comment, and it's saved in a bookmarks view.
>>> - select any feature and bookmark it.
>>> - without selecting anything, simply bookmark a zoom.
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone done something similar?
>>>
>>> Bing
>>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] bookmark

[Michael Michaud]

Martin Davis a écrit :
> In RoadMatcher we created something we called an Issues List. The idea
> was that you could either select a feature or draw a box around an area,
> and then mark it as an issue (with a state, title, comment, datestamp,
> etc). Issues were actually just a special named layer. We had a modeless
> dialog which looked like the Attribute View to let you zoom to issues,
> sort them, mark them as done, etc.)
>   
Storing bookmarks as any other layer seems like a good idea (easy to 
store, to share...)
> Fancier and less general than the Bookmarks idea. Bookmarks sound like a
> great idea.
>
> What is the scope of Bookmarks? Local to a single Task Frame (um - OJ
> Project Frame?) The entire OJ instance? Would they be persisted and if
> so how?
>
> I quite liked the pattern of exposing things like this as a layer in the
> Layer List (e.g the way the Fence works). Then users can use any
> relevant tools directly on that layer. Basically then Bookmarks would
> just be a special tool to create a Bookmark layer feature, and perhaps
> (probably?) a UI dialog to allow friendly navigation around bookmarks
> (although even this might not be needed - the Attribute View could serve
> just as well for this.
>   
I think a special user interface dedicated to bookmark navigation would 
be welcome (should be as easy as navigating in firefox bookmarks)
The special Tool to create the bookmark feature should create a 
rectangle fitting the layerview to memorize position and scale (and 
could create the layer if it does not exist yet)
A convention in the bookmark name could even help creating a 
hierarchical navigator (with '/' for example)

My 2 cents
> M
>
> Bing Ran wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>> I'm thinking adding bookmarking to enable quick navigating to
>> interesting points on a map.
>> - point to a location on a map and issue "bookmark this point" without
>> any feature selected, add comment, and it's saved in a bookmarks view.
>> - select any feature and bookmark it.
>> - without selecting anything, simply bookmark a zoom.
>> Has anyone done something similar?
>> Bing
>> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] bookmark

[Larry Becker]

I agree that storing bookmark views in a layer is probably the best solution
for the reasons already stated.  Further suggestions are:

1. The Save Bookmark menu option should be on the View menu.

2. The view geometry stored should be inflated by the appropriate amount so
that browsing it in View/Edit Attributes will restore the original view
(where normally there is some context border).

3.  The view name should be the only attribute.  It should probably be
assigned in a dialog when you choose Save Bookmark with a suitable default
name such as "View 1".

4. It would be nice if the bookmark dataset path/file-type defaulted to the
same pathname as the project file with "_bookmark.jml" appended or something
like that so that all you would have to do is save it and the project.  JML
file type seems like the best choice.

5.  The bookmark layer should default to not selectable and not visible.

6.  Anything else is gravy...

my 2 cents,

Larry
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Michael Michaud wrote:

> Martin Davis a écrit :
> > In RoadMatcher we created something we called an Issues List. The idea
> > was that you could either select a feature or draw a box around an area,
> > and then mark it as an issue (with a state, title, comment, datestamp,
> > etc). Issues were actually just a special named layer. We had a modeless
> > dialog which looked like the Attribute View to let you zoom to issues,
> > sort them, mark them as done, etc.)
> >
> Storing bookmarks as any other layer seems like a good idea (easy to
> store, to share...)
> > Fancier and less general than the Bookmarks idea. Bookmarks sound like a
> > great idea.
> >
> > What is the scope of Bookmarks? Local to a single Task Frame (um - OJ
> > Project Frame?) The entire OJ instance? Would they be persisted and if
> > so how?
> >
> > I quite liked the pattern of exposing things like this as a layer in the
> > Layer List (e.g the way the Fence works). Then users can use any
> > relevant tools directly on that layer. Basically then Bookmarks would
> > just be a special tool to create a Bookmark layer feature, and perhaps
> > (probably?) a UI dialog to allow friendly navigation around bookmarks
> > (although even this might not be needed - the Attribute View could serve
> > just as well for this.
> >
> I think a special user interface dedicated to bookmark navigation would
> be welcome (should be as easy as navigating in firefox bookmarks)
> The special Tool to create the bookmark feature should create a
> rectangle fitting the layerview to memorize position and scale (and
> could create the layer if it does not exist yet)
> A convention in the bookmark name could even help creating a
> hierarchical navigator (with '/' for example)
>
> My 2 cents
> > M
> >
> > Bing Ran wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm thinking adding bookmarking to enable quick navigating to
> >> interesting points on a map.
> >> - point to a location on a map and issue "bookmark this point" without
> >> any feature selected, add comment, and it's saved in a bookmarks view.
> >> - select any feature and bookmark it.
> >> - without selecting anything, simply bookmark a zoom.
> >> Has anyone done something similar?
> >> Bing
> >> 
> >>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] bookmark

[Bing Ran]

Thanks Larry, Michael, Martin and others, the ideas and concepts brought out 
are great!

Since I'm planning this feature for my highly customized application on top of 
OJ, what I'm thinking doing is less than generic as I wish:

1. The Bookmarks view will probably in a dockable window since my application 
is using MyDoggy docking system. 
2. The bookmarks are classified as either private or public and will persist in 
a database. 
3. Bookmarks carries owner names. My application is an enterprise tool and 
requires logging in. 
4. Public bookmarks are shared across multiple users. 
5. Bookmarks have title, comments and tags so they can be searched and 
categorized.

This feature can be built on top of a generic bookmarking mechanism if 
available in OJ, particularly the bookmarks layer management and local 
persistence.

I'm not sure how soon I'll be able to starting doing the work. Flicker-less 
panning still high on my to-do list (if anyone remembers my first ever email to 
the list ). If someone would do a generic one in some time soon, I'd be more 
than happy to continue with that. 


Bing



From: Larry Becker 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:38 AM
To: OpenJump develop and use 
Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] bookmark


I agree that storing bookmark views in a layer is probably the best solution 
for the reasons already stated.  Further suggestions are:

1. The Save Bookmark menu option should be on the View menu.  

2. The view geometry stored should be inflated by the appropriate amount so 
that browsing it in View/Edit Attributes will restore the original view (where 
normally there is some context border).  

3.  The view name should be the only attribute.  It should probably be assigned 
in a dialog when you choose Save Bookmark with a suitable default name such as 
"View 1".

4. It would be nice if the bookmark dataset path/file-type defaulted to the 
same pathname as the project file with "_bookmark.jml" appended or something 
like that so that all you would have to do is save it and the project.  JML 
file type seems like the best choice.

5.  The bookmark layer should default to not selectable and not visible.

6.  Anything else is gravy...

my 2 cents,

Larry

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Michael Michaud  wrote:

  Martin Davis a écrit :

  > In RoadMatcher we created something we called an Issues List. The idea
  > was that you could either select a feature or draw a box around an area,
  > and then mark it as an issue (with a state, title, comment, datestamp,
  > etc). Issues were actually just a special named layer. We had a modeless
  > dialog which looked like the Attribute View to let you zoom to issues,
  > sort them, mark them as done, etc.)
  >

  Storing bookmarks as any other layer seems like a good idea (easy to
  store, to share...)

  > Fancier and less general than the Bookmarks idea. Bookmarks sound like a
  > great idea.
  >
  > What is the scope of Bookmarks? Local to a single Task Frame (um - OJ
  > Project Frame?) The entire OJ instance? Would they be persisted and if
  > so how?
  >
  > I quite liked the pattern of exposing things like this as a layer in the
  > Layer List (e.g the way the Fence works). Then users can use any
  > relevant tools directly on that layer. Basically then Bookmarks would
  > just be a special tool to create a Bookmark layer feature, and perhaps
  > (probably?) a UI dialog to allow friendly navigation around bookmarks
  > (although even this might not be needed - the Attribute View could serve
  > just as well for this.
  >

  I think a special user interface dedicated to bookmark navigation would
  be welcome (should be as easy as navigating in firefox bookmarks)
  The special Tool to create the bookmark feature should create a
  rectangle fitting the layerview to memorize position and scale (and
  could create the layer if it does not exist yet)
  A convention in the bookmark name could even help creating a
  hierarchical navigator (with '/' for example)

  My 2 cents

  > M
  >
  > Bing Ran wrote:
  >
  >> Hi,
  >> I'm thinking adding bookmarking to enable quick navigating to
  >> interesting points on a map.
  >> - point to a location on a map and issue "bookmark this point" without
  >> any feature selected, add comment, and it's saved in a bookmarks view.
  >> - select any feature and bookmark it.
  >> - without selecting anything, simply bookmark a zoom.
  >> Has anyone done something similar?
  >> Bing
  >> 
  >>
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