Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: Hi, > Or even /openjump/lib/ext/users... but then you'd have the problem to invent a username to store there... Best regards, Andreas -- l a t / l o n GmbH Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org --- On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day http://deegree.org/deegreeday signature.asc Description: Digital signature - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
[JPP-Devel] R: Workbench Properties
Or better yet /openjump/lib/ext/profiles... so that each user can choose among different profiles if needed. Bye Paolo Rizzi > -Messaggio originale- > Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] conto di > Sunburned Surveyor > Inviato: giovedì 29 maggio 2008 2.05 > A: OpenJump develop and use > Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties > > > Or even /openjump/lib/ext/users... > > SS > > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sunburned Surveyor > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We could also create a /openjump/users/ folder. This would > allow us to > > maintain our "cross-platform" status while still supporting > individual > > user configuration settings. > > > > The Sunburned Surveyor > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Andreas Schmitz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Paul Austin wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >>>* All users share the same properties file unless you > change it in > >>> the batch script to point to a user specific directory > >> > >> then maybe we should change the batch scripts. Since most > of the Windows people > >> will have installed at least Windows 2000/XP (and not > Windows 98 any more ;-)), > >> there's a good chance that they have a home directory... > >> > >> I'm also for a change in the linux script to create the > $HOME/.jump directory if > >> it does not exist. > >> > >> Best regards, Andreas > >> -- > >> l a t / l o n GmbH > >> Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany > >> phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 > >> http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org > >> > >> --- > >> On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day > >> http://deegree.org/deegreeday > >> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > >> > >> iD8DBQFIPRBt737OVr+Ru7oRAmXYAKClJ2mVH+98BTgyuH0k5kpGvF27ZQCfXak3 > >> sxSG6cYrdSKaN5Nq2X5baTw= > >> =6CIx > >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- > >> > >> > -- > --- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > >> ___ > >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > >> > >> > > > > -- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties
Andreas wrote: "but then you'd have the problem to invent a username to store there..." I imagined you'd create a simple plug-in that would allow users to create and delete OpenJUMP users. The folders for each user could be created and deleted during this process. If you wanted to get fancy, you could have the plug-in scan the user directories on Linux or Microsoft operating systems and create mirrored users for them in OpenJUMP. I think PostgreSQL might do something similar on Linux... The Sunburned Surveyor On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Andreas Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > > Hi, > >> Or even /openjump/lib/ext/users... > > but then you'd have the problem to invent a username to store there... > > Best regards, Andreas > -- > l a t / l o n GmbH > Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany > phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 > http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org > > --- > On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day > http://deegree.org/deegreeday > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFIPluK737OVr+Ru7oRAgQ2AKC8Kp91CNEnmSJJqqXWW98twuq9UQCfZlm6 > UMbVp42W+KTIAewbyQUA9So= > =ycyk > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] R: Workbench Properties
Good suggestion Paolo. The Sunburned Surveyor On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:13 AM, P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or better yet /openjump/lib/ext/profiles... > so that each user can choose among different profiles if needed. > > Bye > Paolo Rizzi > > >> -Messaggio originale- >> Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] conto di >> Sunburned Surveyor >> Inviato: giovedì 29 maggio 2008 2.05 >> A: OpenJump develop and use >> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties >> >> >> Or even /openjump/lib/ext/users... >> >> SS >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sunburned Surveyor >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > We could also create a /openjump/users/ folder. This would >> allow us to >> > maintain our "cross-platform" status while still supporting >> individual >> > user configuration settings. >> > >> > The Sunburned Surveyor >> > >> > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Andreas Schmitz >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Paul Austin wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >>>* All users share the same properties file unless you >> change it in >> >>> the batch script to point to a user specific directory >> >> >> >> then maybe we should change the batch scripts. Since most >> of the Windows people >> >> will have installed at least Windows 2000/XP (and not >> Windows 98 any more ;-)), >> >> there's a good chance that they have a home directory... >> >> >> >> I'm also for a change in the linux script to create the >> $HOME/.jump directory if >> >> it does not exist. >> >> >> >> Best regards, Andreas >> >> -- >> >> l a t / l o n GmbH >> >> Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany >> >> phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 >> >> http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org >> >> >> >> --- >> >> On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day >> >> http://deegree.org/deegreeday >> >> >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> >> >> >> iD8DBQFIPRBt737OVr+Ru7oRAmXYAKClJ2mVH+98BTgyuH0k5kpGvF27ZQCfXak3 >> >> sxSG6cYrdSKaN5Nq2X5baTw= >> >> =6CIx >> >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> --- >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ >> >> ___ >> >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ >> ___ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] Re: Mobile GPS solution in OJ
Very good Arnd, if you will supply it I actually am less picky. I even think if I run into severe incompatibility issues between javagps & the mouse output we could simply swap the model... Essentially I am not going to survey. So the accuracy is not overly important. I'd say I'd need the following: - USB Mouse with drivers which emulate serial interfaces under Windows XP & Linux - with a cable of at least 2 meters, to avoid the need of an extender - it should output NMEA for a start, but I am willing to test Sirf/Garmin as well Thanks for your support.. Ede -- > Hello Edgar, > > I just had a talk in the team and I nowcan give You the positive > reaction. So, we can spend You a GPS mouse for the development of the > GPS plugin. So let us choose a usable mouse for it. > > Kindly regards > Arnd > > Edgar Soldin schrieb: >> The extension is using a java gps framework which can be found here >> http://javagps.sourceforge.net/ >> and should work as smoothly as in 2004 (at least I hope so) as soon >> as the serial input is brought back to life. Though there might be >> problems with changes between jump 1.1.1 & the recent openjump... but >> I'll take care of that then. >> >> Thanks so far.. ede >> -- >>> Hello Edgar, >>> >>> I think it should be possible to spend You a mouse for the >>> development of the plugin. I will discuss it tomorrow in the team >>> and give You soon a response. >>> >>> Two years ago we made some experiences gathering data from a gps >>> receiver by a quickly developed standalone java tool. maybe the >>> source code could also help you developing a gps plugin for OJ for >>> realtime gps data import?? >>> >>> Kindly regards >>> Arnd >>> good idea .. maybe you (PIROL) or the guys from lat/lon (Andreas? are you reading me?) can spend a gps mouse for a month or so ... how about it? regards ede -- > Hello Edgar, > > may be that I missunderstood what is needed... > So, I want to ask if it is helpful when You get a receiver for > Your development from someone? > Then it should be a receiver which could provide data in NMEA and > also SIRF protocol. > > Kindly regards > Arnd > > Edgar Soldin schrieb: > >> Arnd Kielhorn wrote: >> >>> Hello Edgar, >>> >>> does it make any differences what chipset the GPS receiver have, >>> when You only want to get the NMEA data from it??? >>> >> it does when I have to spend my own private money ;) ... my point >> about it is just, if I consider a device it should be a fair >> trade of value vs. function.. I don't want it only to check the >> input. >> >> But still: If I don't have this device anybody knows of an easy >> way to send data to the serial device to doublecheck that its >> working with java? Maybe a nullmodem cable with a second pc >> sending out test data? >> >> >>> But by the way, if using a SIRF chipset You have to look into >>> the manual if the reciever works with fix positions or if the >>> receiver gives only the calculated position. When You use SIRF >>> dynamically (e.g. with a car) it is not so critically when the >>> GPS works with fix position. But when You use it by feet (e.g. >>> field mapping by feet) You change You position very slowly and >>> often only a little bit, so You should not have a SIRF chipset >>> in the receiver which works with fix positions. >>> >> that's confusing .. sorry .. what is the exact difference between >> a _fixed_ and a _calculated_ position (isn't the position always >> _calculated_ from the satellite signals, at least is this what I >> researched for my thesis ;) >> >> >>> So, from my point of view a GPS plugin should import the >>> NMEA0183 raw data (by choosing COM/USB port and baud rate) and >>> separate the WGS84 position. >>> >> the GPS tracker so far works this way (see attached graphics) >> - configure it under options >> - enable the gps thread receiving from the gps device (1.) >> - using a java gps library it can interpret nmea,sirf & garmin >> - if the gps delivers a position you may find it in the status bar >> - you can enable a tracking of one tasks viewport >> - you can append points to existing features, or create new >> features by inserting points to a layer (2.) >> >> for the screens I had setup java 1.4.2 with jump 1.1.1 to have >> the commapi working. I am not sure if OJ is still Java 4 capable? >> >> as mentioned before.. I will research the current state of serial >> interfaces and sun java and update the corresponding code, to >> make it work under win32.. I don't have no schedule now .. but I >> will find some time. >> >> >>> Receivers with SIRF II o
Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: Hi, > "but then you'd have the problem to invent a username to store there..." > > I imagined you'd create a simple plug-in that would allow users to > create and delete OpenJUMP users. The folders for each user could be > created and deleted during this process. > > If you wanted to get fancy, you could have the plug-in scan the user > directories on Linux or Microsoft operating systems and create > mirrored users for them in OpenJUMP. I think PostgreSQL might do > something similar on Linux... sure, but my point is that it's duplicated functionality. When a user is updated/added/deleted in the system, do you take care to do the same for the OpenJUMP-users? Once you start with a piece of software, it might be simple. But half a year later, you'll be able to cook coffee with it ;-) Best regards, Andreas -- l a t / l o n GmbH Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org --- On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day http://deegree.org/deegreeday signature.asc Description: Digital signature - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Selecting WMS image format
Andreas Schmitz wrote: Hi, > > Is it possible somehow to select the image format OpenJUMP is requesting > > from the WMS server if that supports several formats? > > I don't think so. It is a often requested feature, though, so adding it (for > example) below the SRS drop down box would be the way to go. it's done. Best regards, Andreas -- l a t / l o n GmbH Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org --- On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day http://deegree.org/deegreeday signature.asc Description: Digital signature - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties
Andreas wrote: "sure, but my point is that it's duplicated functionality. When a user is updated/added/deleted in the system, do you take care to do the same for the OpenJUMP-users?" Alas my friend! I think we have identified an unresolvable trade-off. On the one hand, if we tap into the operating system's framework for managing users we will likely loose are ability to be truly cross-platform. On the other hand, if we design an independent (and cross-platform) solution to user management just for OpenJUMP we loose the synchronization with the operating systems users. I'm not sure if there is a solution that addresses both of these issues, nor am I sure which of the techniques described above is the one to pursue. There may not be one technique that is "better" than the other. However, if you distribute a flavor of OpenJUMP for just one operating system, you might implement a solution that doesn't need to be cross-platform. I think this would be fairly easy to do with a plug-in or two. The Sunburned Surveyor On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Andreas Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > > Hi, > >> "but then you'd have the problem to invent a username to store there..." >> >> I imagined you'd create a simple plug-in that would allow users to >> create and delete OpenJUMP users. The folders for each user could be >> created and deleted during this process. >> >> If you wanted to get fancy, you could have the plug-in scan the user >> directories on Linux or Microsoft operating systems and create >> mirrored users for them in OpenJUMP. I think PostgreSQL might do >> something similar on Linux... > > sure, but my point is that it's duplicated functionality. When a user is > updated/added/deleted in the system, do you take care to do the same for the > OpenJUMP-users? Once you start with a piece of software, it might be simple. > But > half a year later, you'll be able to cook coffee with it ;-) > > Best regards, Andreas > -- > l a t / l o n GmbH > Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany > phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 > http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org > > --- > On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day > http://deegree.org/deegreeday > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFIPsKF737OVr+Ru7oRAr8SAKCgA0AcvfzMdZSLd69gp4X5xU9amACgwFnQ > d/pfy7JemzevjNib76bF6Pw= > =tADL > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties
On a UNIX system in the shell script I would recommend putting user specific configuration into ~/.openjump rather than under sub directory the open jump application directory. Remember that in a lot of systems users don't have permission to write to the directories where the application is stored. On windows you can get the users home directory from the %USERPROFILE% environment variable so you could use this to create a settings file under there. Then for a given user if you wanted to create multiple profiles you would have one config file in the user's OJ config directory that lists the profiles and then a sub directory for each profile. At startup the user could be given an option to select the profile to load (unless they checked always use a specific profile). For custom OJ distributions that a company put's together they can either just use a different profile name in their batch script or change the batch script to user a different config directory name. Paul Sunburned Surveyor wrote: Or even /openjump/lib/ext/users... SS On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We could also create a /openjump/users/ folder. This would allow us to maintain our "cross-platform" status while still supporting individual user configuration settings. The Sunburned Surveyor On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Andreas Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paul Austin wrote: Hi, * All users share the same properties file unless you change it in the batch script to point to a user specific directory then maybe we should change the batch scripts. Since most of the Windows people will have installed at least Windows 2000/XP (and not Windows 98 any more ;-)), there's a good chance that they have a home directory... I'm also for a change in the linux script to create the $HOME/.jump directory if it does not exist. Best regards, Andreas -- l a t / l o n GmbH Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org --- On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day http://deegree.org/deegreeday -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIPRBt737OVr+Ru7oRAmXYAKClJ2mVH+98BTgyuH0k5kpGvF27ZQCfXak3 sxSG6cYrdSKaN5Nq2X5baTw= =6CIx -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties
I agree with Paul & SS on
- user profile data should reside in users home folders (present under
MacOSX, Linux, Windows and user writeable)
- if needed the functionality should be realized with an extension to
keep the core small
regards ede
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> On a UNIX system in the shell script I would recommend putting user
> specific configuration into ~/.openjump rather than under sub
> directory the open jump application directory. Remember that in a lot
> of systems users don't have permission to write to the directories
> where the application is stored.
>
> On windows you can get the users home directory from the %USERPROFILE%
> environment variable so you could use this to create a settings file
> under there.
>
> Then for a given user if you wanted to create multiple profiles you
> would have one config file in the user's OJ config directory that
> lists the profiles and then a sub directory for each profile. At
> startup the user could be given an option to select the profile to
> load (unless they checked always use a specific profile).
>
> For custom OJ distributions that a company put's together they can
> either just use a different profile name in their batch script or
> change the batch script to user a different config directory name.
>
> Paul
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>> Or even /openjump/lib/ext/users...
>>
>> SS
>>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sunburned Surveyor
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> We could also create a /openjump/users/ folder. This would allow us to
>>> maintain our "cross-platform" status while still supporting individual
>>> user configuration settings.
>>>
>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Andreas Schmitz
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
Paul Austin wrote:
Hi,
>* All users share the same properties file unless you change it in
> the batch script to point to a user specific directory
>
then maybe we should change the batch scripts. Since most of the
Windows people
will have installed at least Windows 2000/XP (and not Windows 98
any more ;-)),
there's a good chance that they have a home directory...
I'm also for a change in the linux script to create the $HOME/.jump
directory if
it does not exist.
Best regards, Andreas
--
l a t / l o n GmbH
Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany
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Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] JUMP as an OSGEO project
David, We have a new user list for OpenJUMP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are trying to migrate our users to this new list. Some of the requirements for an OSGeo project our outlines here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html I've been reluctant to push OpenJUMP as an OSGeo project (although it is something I would like to see) because some of the requirements rub against the grain of our current programmer community. To become an OSGeo project you really need to adopt more formal governance procedures and policies. OpenJUMP has a rather informal programming community, and it seems there has been some pushback when I have suggested more formal policies in the past. Myabe we have evolved beyond this stage, but I'm still not sure. I think OpenJUMP would get a lot of publicity as an OSGeo project, but I'm not sure if it is currently worth enforcing a rigid structure on our contributin programmers and users. I do try to actively participate in OSGeo as a member of the OpenJUMP community. I hope this answers some of your questions. The Sunburned Surveyor On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Sampson, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey folks, > > What is preventing JUMP from getting into the OSGEO Foundation? Would > this not be a good thing? > > Could this maybe be the catalyst to merging all the JUMP variants back > to one? > > Why would the JUMP community not want to enter OSGEO incubation? > > > Just thought I'd poke and prod. > > > Cheers > ___ > jump-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] JUMP as an OSGEO project
Hei David, I think Landon answered the question already sufficiently. From my perspective as Co-Project leader and Co-Maintainer: - I would like to see that OJ is an OSGEO project, but - We simply lack any human resources to fulfill the formal requirements :( I may note, that more or less all projects that are OSGEO projects have a professional background (i.e. a company and/or a full-time maintainer that earns money with the software/support) while we are just a bunch of volunteers with some company support that is died to specific projects they can acquire (e.g. WFS plugin, Print plugin,...). This also prevents us from setting up any detailed development plans and we do not even have the human resources to set-up and maintain a proper webpage (running instead a wiki). so... would be nice to, but... Stefan Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > David, > > We have a new user list for OpenJUMP: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > We are trying to migrate our users to this new list. > > Some of the requirements for an OSGeo project our outlines here: > > http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html > > I've been reluctant to push OpenJUMP as an OSGeo project (although it > is something I would like to see) because some of the requirements rub > against the grain of our current programmer community. To become an > OSGeo project you really need to adopt more formal governance > procedures and policies. OpenJUMP has a rather informal programming > community, and it seems there has been some pushback when I have > suggested more formal policies in the past. > > Myabe we have evolved beyond this stage, but I'm still not sure. I > think OpenJUMP would get a lot of publicity as an OSGeo project, but > I'm not sure if it is currently worth enforcing a rigid structure on > our contributin programmers and users. > > I do try to actively participate in OSGeo as a member of the OpenJUMP > community. > > I hope this answers some of your questions. > > The Sunburned Surveyor > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Sampson, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hey folks, >> >> What is preventing JUMP from getting into the OSGEO Foundation? Would >> this not be a good thing? >> >> Could this maybe be the catalyst to merging all the JUMP variants back >> to one? >> >> Why would the JUMP community not want to enter OSGEO incubation? >> >> >> Just thought I'd poke and prod. >> >> >> Cheers >> ___ >> jump-users mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users >> > ___ > jump-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] JUMP as an OSGEO project
It would probably be a great thing for JUMP to move into OSGeo. I presume that this requires some level of consent from the owners of the copyright in the code? Vivid Solutions currently has copyright over a large part (all?) of the codebase. I don't know how they would feel about turning this over to OSGeo. Martin Sampson, David wrote: > Hey folks, > > What is preventing JUMP from getting into the OSGEO Foundation? Would > this not be a good thing? > > Could this maybe be the catalyst to merging all the JUMP variants back > to one? > > Why would the JUMP community not want to enter OSGEO incubation? > > > Just thought I'd poke and prod. > > > Cheers > ___ > jump-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users > > -- Martin Davis Senior Technical Architect Refractions Research, Inc. (250) 383-3022 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: Hi, > Andreas wrote: "sure, but my point is that it's duplicated > functionality. When a user is > updated/added/deleted in the system, do you take care to do the same for the > OpenJUMP-users?" > > Alas my friend! I think we have identified an unresolvable trade-off. > > On the one hand, if we tap into the operating system's framework for > managing users we will likely loose are ability to be truly > cross-platform. > > On the other hand, if we design an independent (and cross-platform) > solution to user management just for OpenJUMP we loose the > synchronization with the operating systems users. yes, that pretty much nails it ;-) > I'm not sure if there is a solution that addresses both of these > issues, nor am I sure which of the techniques described above is the > one to pursue. There may not be one technique that is "better" than > the other. > > However, if you distribute a flavor of OpenJUMP for just one operating > system, you might implement a solution that doesn't need to be > cross-platform. I think this would be fairly easy to do with a plug-in > or two. Agreed. As long as there will be no centralized solution which everyone is forced to use, I'll be happy as well. Best regards, Andreas -- l a t / l o n GmbH Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org --- On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day http://deegree.org/deegreeday signature.asc Description: Digital signature - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Workbench Properties
Andreas wrote: "As long as there will be no centralized solution which everyone is forced to use, I'll be happy as well." Yup. This should definitely be implemented as a plug-in or set of plug-ins. Here is one more thought: You could have the plug-in scan the users directory on the host operating system and delete or add folders in the lib/ext/users folder according to the contents. The user could simply indicate the type of host operating system when the plug-in was installed. Still, I bet a MS windows specific plug-in would reach 90% of our users, a Linux specific plug-in 8%, and a Mac specific plug-in the other 2%. The Sunburned Surveyor On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Andreas Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > > Hi, > >> Andreas wrote: "sure, but my point is that it's duplicated >> functionality. When a user is >> updated/added/deleted in the system, do you take care to do the same for the >> OpenJUMP-users?" >> >> Alas my friend! I think we have identified an unresolvable trade-off. >> >> On the one hand, if we tap into the operating system's framework for >> managing users we will likely loose are ability to be truly >> cross-platform. >> >> On the other hand, if we design an independent (and cross-platform) >> solution to user management just for OpenJUMP we loose the >> synchronization with the operating systems users. > > yes, that pretty much nails it ;-) > >> I'm not sure if there is a solution that addresses both of these >> issues, nor am I sure which of the techniques described above is the >> one to pursue. There may not be one technique that is "better" than >> the other. >> >> However, if you distribute a flavor of OpenJUMP for just one operating >> system, you might implement a solution that doesn't need to be >> cross-platform. I think this would be fairly easy to do with a plug-in >> or two. > > Agreed. As long as there will be no centralized solution which everyone is > forced to use, I'll be happy as well. > > Best regards, Andreas > -- > l a t / l o n GmbH > Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany > phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 > http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org > > --- > On June 17 is deegree day - Am 17. Juni ist deegree day > http://deegree.org/deegreeday > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFIPw0u737OVr+Ru7oRAvv7AKDpEH5HcPySqhlPocZpuWM+HI7jAgCfeCu5 > CpHzVyTicggA4hXGV7+M7uU= > =pm+M > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
[JPP-Devel] Log4j.xml and openjump.bat
Hi, Openjump.bat contains this line: set JAVA_OPTS=-Xms256M -Xmx256M "-Djump.home=%JUMP_HOME%" "-Dlog4j.configuration=file:%JUMP_HOME%\bin\log4j.xml" However, log4j.xml is actually at %JUMP_HOME%\conf\log4j.xml" -Jukka Rahkonen- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
