[JPP-Devel] Buffer, Buffer

2007-08-31 Thread Uwe Dalluege
Hi,

the function Tools>Generate>Buffer...
creates a buffer with End Cap Style but
without attributes from the source layer.

The function Tools>Analysis>geometrc functions...>Buffer
creates a buffer with attributes but without End Cap Style.

Is it possible to have a buffer-function
with attributes *and* End Cap Style?

Regards,

Uwe

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Buffer, Buffer

2007-08-31 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Uwe,

   I'm working on it now.

regards,
Larry Becker

On 8/31/07, Uwe Dalluege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the function Tools>Generate>Buffer...
> creates a buffer with End Cap Style but
> without attributes from the source layer.
>
> The function Tools>Analysis>geometrc functions...>Buffer
> creates a buffer with attributes but without End Cap Style.
>
> Is it possible to have a buffer-function
> with attributes *and* End Cap Style?
>
> Regards,
>
> Uwe
>
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[JPP-Devel] WFS plugin is missing from the plugin lis

2007-08-31 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi,

I noticed that WFS plugin is missing from the plugin page at
openjump.org.  However, I think it is worth mentioning there, perhaps
with a short description. The following is too long for that page but
perhaps it could be used for advertising in some other place.

"OpenJUMP WFSPlugin is WFS v. 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 client.  It supports
filtering features from the remote WFS server by attributes and spatial
operations based on a geometry that is selected in JUMP map window.
Logical operators =, <, >, <=, >=, <>, LIKE and NOT LIKE are supported
for attribute filtering. Supported spatial operators are Intersects,
Within, Dwithin, Contains, Touches, Crosses, Overlaps, Equals and
Disjoint.  In addition, extents of the JUMP map window can be captured
and used as bounding box in WFS request.

WFS server response for getCapabilities and describeFeatureType requests
can be directed into text window and stored on disk if desired.  In a
similar way the http POST getFeature request that WFSPlugin creates can
be checked and manually edited in a text window before it is sent to the
WFS server. If these debugging options are not adequate the WFS plugin
can also be used as a standalone Java application. In this mode the GML
returned by WFS server is not parsed but it is just captured and showed
in text window or stored on disk.

Plugin was developed and tested against GeoServer 1.5.0 (supporting only
WFS 1.0.0) and it works pretty well with all demonstration feature types
shipped with GeoServer installation package.

Known issues:
- The parser still fails with some feature types especially if they have
attributes of type DOUBLE or DATE/TIME.
- Plugin was tested briefly with MapServer 4.8 WFS server.  Basically
the plugin worked with MapServer, but there were some problems for
example in building the list of available attributes."

Regards,

-Jukka Rahkonen-

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Re: [JPP-Devel] DataObject Library

2007-08-31 Thread erwan bocher
Hi,
Salut Stefan (J'espère que la fin de thèse se passe bien),


The new GDBMS named GDMS is here :
http://geosysin.iict.ch/irstv-trac/wiki/GDBMS/Project.

R1.


2007/8/31, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> without reading your email - just a hint:
> Did you had a look on GDBMS (see sourceforge) by the gvSIG people? ...
> it should be similar to OGR...
>
> if this is what you are talking about
>
> stefan
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[JPP-Devel] A Problem With The SelectTool Class

2007-08-31 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I've been trying to find a quick way to create Polygons from selected
LineStrings in one of my OpenJUMP GIS projects. I've been using the
suggestion to set up a temporary Layer were I paste a copy of the
LineStrings I've selected, then I use the polygonize tool to actually
create the Polygons.

I thought I would take a "quick" look at OpenJUMP's selection code to
see if I could determine how to implement a CursorTool similar to the
select tool that allows a little more control over selection. This
includes the ability to have "sticky" selections, the ability to
remove selected items from a sticky selection, and the ability to
automatically copy selected items to a new or designated layer with a
single click.

I think I've got a good handle on how the selection code works, excpet
for one problem that I can't figure out in the SelectTool class. The
class defines and uses an instance of the AbstractSelection class
named "selection". It is declared as a protexted variable in the
class, but I can't for the life of me figure out where the variable is
initialized. It isn't in the constructor of the SelectTool class, it
isn't in the variable declaration, and I couldn't find an
initialization reading through the file, searching for instances of
the "new" keyword in the file, or using the "references" tool in
Eclipse.

Is there some black magic going on in the code that I don't know
about. If the "selection" variable isn't initialized how come the
calls to its methods in the class don't throw a null pointer
exception? I know I am missing something, but I'm not sure what I am
missing.

I appreciate any help.

The .java file for the SelectTool class is attached.

The Sunburned Surveyor
/*
 * The Unified Mapping Platform (JUMP) is an extensible, interactive GUI 
 * for visualizing and manipulating spatial features with geometry and 
attributes.
 *
 * Copyright (C) 2003 Vivid Solutions
 * 
 * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
 * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
 * as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
 * of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
 * 
 * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
 * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
 * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
 * GNU General Public License for more details.
 * 
 * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
 * along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
 * Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307, USA.
 * 
 * For more information, contact:
 *
 * Vivid Solutions
 * Suite #1A
 * 2328 Government Street
 * Victoria BC  V8T 5G5
 * Canada
 *
 * (250)385-6040
 * www.vividsolutions.com
 */

package com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.cursortool;

import java.awt.Cursor;
import java.awt.event.MouseEvent;
import java.awt.geom.NoninvertibleTransformException;
import java.util.ArrayList;
import java.util.Arrays;
import java.util.Collection;
import java.util.Iterator;
import java.util.Map;

import javax.swing.Icon;

import com.vividsolutions.jts.geom.Geometry;
import com.vividsolutions.jump.feature.Feature;
import com.vividsolutions.jump.geom.EnvelopeUtil;
import com.vividsolutions.jump.util.CollectionMap;
import com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.model.FenceLayerFinder;
import com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.model.Layer;
import com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.AbstractSelection;
import com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.LayerViewPanel;

public abstract class SelectTool extends DragTool {

public Cursor getCursor() {
return Cursor.getDefaultCursor();
}

public void mouseClicked(MouseEvent e) {
try {
super.mouseClicked(e);
setViewSource(e.getPoint());
setViewDestination(e.getPoint());
fireGestureFinished();
} catch (Throwable t) {
getPanel().getContext().handleThrowable(t);
}
}

protected void gestureFinished() throws NoninvertibleTransformException {
reportNothingToUndoYet();

if (!wasShiftPressed()) {
getPanel().getSelectionManager().clear();
}

Map layerToFeaturesInFenceMap =
getPanel().visibleLayerToFeaturesInFenceMap(
EnvelopeUtil.toGeometry(getBoxInModelCoordinates()));

Collection layers = layerToFeaturesInFenceMap.keySet();
if (selectedLayersOnly()) {

layers.retainAll(Arrays.asList(getTaskFrame().getLayerNamePanel().getSelectedLayers()));
}
for (Iterator i = layers.iterator(); i.hasNext();) {
Layer layer = (Layer) i.next();

if (layer.getName().equals(FenceLayerFinder.LAYER_NAME)) {
continue;
}

//Disable panel updates -- we'll manually repaint the selection and
//fire the selection-changed event. [Jon Aquino]
  

[JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP tiff support

2007-08-31 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi,

I have played with quite a nice software that I had tried never before, OSSIM 
(www.ossim.org).  As a by-product here is a table about what kind of TIFF files 
OpenJUMP can open at present.

result with result with
Ossim tiff writer driverJUMP native PIROL raster

OSSIM tiff_stripOK  OK
OSSIM tiff_strip_band_separate  failfail
OSSIM tiff_tiledfail*   fail*
OSSIM tiff_tiled_band_separate  failfail
Gdal, pixel intl.   OK  OK
Gdal, pixel intl. +backbits OK  OK
Gdal, pixel intl. +jpeg failfail
Gdal, pixel intl. +tiledfail**  fail**
Gdal, band interleaved  failfail

*  Image shows, but from the right side every other tile is black
** Image shows, but bottom-right tile is black

In conclusion, only pixel interleaved tiff files seem to be usable with 
OpenJUMP.  They may be backbits compressed.  Tiled images are almost usable, 
but there is something strange with those because part of the rightmost tiles 
do not show with either JUMP native or PIROL raster plugin. Maybe it is caused 
by JAI? 

Regards,

-Jukka Rahkonen-

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Re: [JPP-Devel] New DB plugin for OpenJump

2007-08-31 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thanks for the announcement Larry. We hope that you enjoy working with OpenJUMP.

The Sunburned Surveyor

On 8/19/07, Larry Reeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Mentaer (Stefan) suggested I send a message to the JPP list to let
> everyone know about a new OpenJump database plugin. I know there are
> several other DB plugins out there, but they all seem to be
> table-based.  I needed something that would let me put in arbitrary
> spatial queries and display the results in Jump, so I wrote this
> plugin.
>
> Features:
>
> * You can call stored procedures, query views, do inline calculations,
> use DUAL in oracle,
>  etc., and view the results in OpenJUMP
> * Oracle Spatial support via GeoTools
> * MySQL support via GeoTools
> * Ability to save DB connection parameters for multiple DBs so you
> don't have to keep
>  retyping connection info every time you start jump or switch to a
> different database.
>
>
> Limitations:
>
> * Read-only
> * Handling of null geometries is kind of kludgy
> * No postgres support, but that's on my todo list
> * MySQL queries require "AsText" workaround to handle polygons
> * Large result sets might cause out-of-memory errors in OpenJUMP.  A
> resultset limit (similar to what the Squirrel JDBC client does) is
> also on my todo list.
>
> If you're interested, check out the plugin's main page at
> http://jumpdbqplugin.sourceforge.net.   Let me know if you have
> problems or suggestions.
>
> Tested on Linux, using Oracle Spatial 10.x, and MySQL 4.1.11.
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP / Pirol's Plugin compatibility

2007-08-31 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thanks for taking care of this Mihael.

SS

On 8/21/07, Michaël Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Done !
>
> Michaël
>
> Sunburned Surveyor a écrit :
>
> >Why don't we add the method back with the deprecated tag. We can put a
> >comment in the source code file stating that the method can be removed
> >when the Pirol team makes the needed changes.
> >
> >The Sunburned Surveyor
> >
> >On 8/20/07, Michaël Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi Sunburned,
> >>
> >>I have been in touch with Michael who has no much time to work on
> >>Pirol's plugin as he leaved the project. But he told me that he will try
> >>to make the change and that another guy will come on september.
> >>We can wait a little to see if Pirol's plugin is updated, or I can add
> >>the method back in LayerManager (nobody should use it but I can add it
> >>with a deprecated tag).
> >>
> >>Michael
> >>
> >>Sunburned Surveyor a écrit :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Will the Pirol team allow us to make the changes to their code if they
> >>>are too busy?
> >>>
> >>>The Sunburned Surveyor
> >>>
> >>>On 8/18/07, Michaël Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> Hei Michael (Brunig),
> 
> A few month ago, I changed a method signature in OpenJUMP LayerManager's
> class to solve a  problem with "cloned windows", but it has broken one
> (or more) pirol's plugin :
> 
> The change :
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.model.LayerManager.dispose(Layerable
> layerable)
> -->
> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.model.LayerManager.dispose(WorkbenchFrame
> frame, Layerable layerable)
> 
> The reason :
> when one removes a layer from a task, I want this layer to be removed
> 
> 
> from all the cloned windows in this task,
> >>>
> >>>
> so I needed a reference to the frame.
> 
> The break :
> in
> de.fhOsnabrueck.jump.pirol.plugIns.PirolRasterImage.RemoveSelectedRasterImageLayersPlugIn.remove(Layerable[]
> selectedLayers)
> the code use the old method in the following line
> selectedLayers[i].getLayerManager().dispose(selectedLayers[i]);
> 
> It's quite straight to change it to use the new method (you have also to
> pass the PlugInContext to the method to have a reference to 
> WorkbenchFrame)
> 
> If you cannot do it, or don't want for any reason, I'll add the old
> method back to LayerManager, with a strong advice against its use.
> 
> Sincerly,
> 
> Michael (the french one)
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] A Problem With The SelectTool Class

2007-08-31 Thread Larry Becker
Hi SS,

  No magic here.  SelectTool is itself an abstract class, so selection
is initialized in the classes that extend SelectTool like
SelectFeaturesTool, SelectLineStringsTool, SelectPartsTool, and
SelectOneItemTool.

regards,
Larry

On 8/31/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been trying to find a quick way to create Polygons from selected
> LineStrings in one of my OpenJUMP GIS projects. I've been using the
> suggestion to set up a temporary Layer were I paste a copy of the
> LineStrings I've selected, then I use the polygonize tool to actually
> create the Polygons.
>
> I thought I would take a "quick" look at OpenJUMP's selection code to
> see if I could determine how to implement a CursorTool similar to the
> select tool that allows a little more control over selection. This
> includes the ability to have "sticky" selections, the ability to
> remove selected items from a sticky selection, and the ability to
> automatically copy selected items to a new or designated layer with a
> single click.
>
> I think I've got a good handle on how the selection code works, excpet
> for one problem that I can't figure out in the SelectTool class. The
> class defines and uses an instance of the AbstractSelection class
> named "selection". It is declared as a protexted variable in the
> class, but I can't for the life of me figure out where the variable is
> initialized. It isn't in the constructor of the SelectTool class, it
> isn't in the variable declaration, and I couldn't find an
> initialization reading through the file, searching for instances of
> the "new" keyword in the file, or using the "references" tool in
> Eclipse.
>
> Is there some black magic going on in the code that I don't know
> about. If the "selection" variable isn't initialized how come the
> calls to its methods in the class don't throw a null pointer
> exception? I know I am missing something, but I'm not sure what I am
> missing.
>
> I appreciate any help.
>
> The .java file for the SelectTool class is attached.
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
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Re: [JPP-Devel] A Problem With The SelectTool Class

2007-08-31 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thank you Larry. I missed the fact that the SelectTool was abstract.
Thank you for pointing that out.

SS

On 8/31/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi SS,
>
>  No magic here.  SelectTool is itself an abstract class, so selection
> is initialized in the classes that extend SelectTool like
> SelectFeaturesTool, SelectLineStringsTool, SelectPartsTool, and
> SelectOneItemTool.
>
> regards,
> Larry
>
> On 8/31/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've been trying to find a quick way to create Polygons from selected
> > LineStrings in one of my OpenJUMP GIS projects. I've been using the
> > suggestion to set up a temporary Layer were I paste a copy of the
> > LineStrings I've selected, then I use the polygonize tool to actually
> > create the Polygons.
> >
> > I thought I would take a "quick" look at OpenJUMP's selection code to
> > see if I could determine how to implement a CursorTool similar to the
> > select tool that allows a little more control over selection. This
> > includes the ability to have "sticky" selections, the ability to
> > remove selected items from a sticky selection, and the ability to
> > automatically copy selected items to a new or designated layer with a
> > single click.
> >
> > I think I've got a good handle on how the selection code works, excpet
> > for one problem that I can't figure out in the SelectTool class. The
> > class defines and uses an instance of the AbstractSelection class
> > named "selection". It is declared as a protexted variable in the
> > class, but I can't for the life of me figure out where the variable is
> > initialized. It isn't in the constructor of the SelectTool class, it
> > isn't in the variable declaration, and I couldn't find an
> > initialization reading through the file, searching for instances of
> > the "new" keyword in the file, or using the "references" tool in
> > Eclipse.
> >
> > Is there some black magic going on in the code that I don't know
> > about. If the "selection" variable isn't initialized how come the
> > calls to its methods in the class don't throw a null pointer
> > exception? I know I am missing something, but I'm not sure what I am
> > missing.
> >
> > I appreciate any help.
> >
> > The .java file for the SelectTool class is attached.
> >
> > The Sunburned Surveyor
> >
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved buffer plugin

2007-08-31 Thread Martin Davis
Cool...

I think that one way around the "slow union" problem is to develop a 
"Cascading Union" function.  This will build up a union of multiple 
geometries by forming them into a tree, and recursively unioning the 
branches of the tree from the leaves to the root.In theory this 
should provide a fairly optimal balance between performance and memory use.

A nice way to form the tree would be to add the input geometries to a 
JTS Quadtree or STRtree and then traverse the tree in depth-first 
order.  Unfortunately currently the implementations don't support the 
ability to traverse the tree in any order - this wouldn't be too hard to 
add, though.

Thoughts?  Anyone keen on trying this out?

Martin



Larry Becker wrote:
> I have committed the improved buffer plugin.  Three sample screens are
> attached in english, french, and german.It now supports buffering
> the selection. It provides a convenience union option.  The sidebar
> picture now previews the current options.  It copies attributes by
> default, even from selections on multiple layers, but this can be
> turned off.  It supports setting the number of segments in a quarter
> circle.
>
> Be careful with the union operation.  With large selections, it can
> take a long time.  For instance using Uwe's GeoCity project, I tried
> to buffer everything by 1000 meters.  Without union it completed in
> about 20 seconds, and with union I finally killed it after 5 minutes.
>
> regards,
> Larry Becker
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved buffer plugin

2007-08-31 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Martin,

  The union operation is implemented by buffering the union of the
input, rather than the union of the input buffered, if you see the
distinction.  I was hoping JTS had already optimized this, but from
what you are saying, I would guess not.

Larry

On 8/31/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cool...
>
> I think that one way around the "slow union" problem is to develop a
> "Cascading Union" function.  This will build up a union of multiple
> geometries by forming them into a tree, and recursively unioning the
> branches of the tree from the leaves to the root.In theory this
> should provide a fairly optimal balance between performance and memory use.
>
> A nice way to form the tree would be to add the input geometries to a
> JTS Quadtree or STRtree and then traverse the tree in depth-first
> order.  Unfortunately currently the implementations don't support the
> ability to traverse the tree in any order - this wouldn't be too hard to
> add, though.
>
> Thoughts?  Anyone keen on trying this out?
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> Larry Becker wrote:
> > I have committed the improved buffer plugin.  Three sample screens are
> > attached in english, french, and german.It now supports buffering
> > the selection. It provides a convenience union option.  The sidebar
> > picture now previews the current options.  It copies attributes by
> > default, even from selections on multiple layers, but this can be
> > turned off.  It supports setting the number of segments in a quarter
> > circle.
> >
> > Be careful with the union operation.  With large selections, it can
> > take a long time.  For instance using Uwe's GeoCity project, I tried
> > to buffer everything by 1000 meters.  Without union it completed in
> > about 20 seconds, and with union I finally killed it after 5 minutes.
> >
> > regards,
> > Larry Becker
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved buffer plugin

2007-08-31 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Yes.. as far as i know JTS has no optimization, but..

* I implemented in the mapgen toolbox an union based on attributes that 
utilizes the jts quadtree.
* recently Michael improved the JUMP deliverd union to speed up (can't 
remember how) and added as well an option for unioning only when 
attributes are similar.

it may be an option to call Michaels optimized code for the 
post-unioning in the buffer method

stefan

Larry Becker schrieb:
> Hi Martin,
> 
>   The union operation is implemented by buffering the union of the
> input, rather than the union of the input buffered, if you see the
> distinction.  I was hoping JTS had already optimized this, but from
> what you are saying, I would guess not.
> 
> Larry
> 
> On 8/31/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Cool...
>>
>> I think that one way around the "slow union" problem is to develop a
>> "Cascading Union" function.  This will build up a union of multiple
>> geometries by forming them into a tree, and recursively unioning the
>> branches of the tree from the leaves to the root.In theory this
>> should provide a fairly optimal balance between performance and memory use.
>>
>> A nice way to form the tree would be to add the input geometries to a
>> JTS Quadtree or STRtree and then traverse the tree in depth-first
>> order.  Unfortunately currently the implementations don't support the
>> ability to traverse the tree in any order - this wouldn't be too hard to
>> add, though.
>>
>> Thoughts?  Anyone keen on trying this out?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Becker wrote:
>>> I have committed the improved buffer plugin.  Three sample screens are
>>> attached in english, french, and german.It now supports buffering
>>> the selection. It provides a convenience union option.  The sidebar
>>> picture now previews the current options.  It copies attributes by
>>> default, even from selections on multiple layers, but this can be
>>> turned off.  It supports setting the number of segments in a quarter
>>> circle.
>>>
>>> Be careful with the union operation.  With large selections, it can
>>> take a long time.  For instance using Uwe's GeoCity project, I tried
>>> to buffer everything by 1000 meters.  Without union it completed in
>>> about 20 seconds, and with union I finally killed it after 5 minutes.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry Becker
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved buffer plugin

2007-08-31 Thread Stefan Steiniger
ah.. anyway.. thanx Larry!

Larry Becker schrieb:
> Hi Martin,
> 
>   The union operation is implemented by buffering the union of the
> input, rather than the union of the input buffered, if you see the
> distinction.  I was hoping JTS had already optimized this, but from
> what you are saying, I would guess not.
> 
> Larry
> 
> On 8/31/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Cool...
>>
>> I think that one way around the "slow union" problem is to develop a
>> "Cascading Union" function.  This will build up a union of multiple
>> geometries by forming them into a tree, and recursively unioning the
>> branches of the tree from the leaves to the root.In theory this
>> should provide a fairly optimal balance between performance and memory use.
>>
>> A nice way to form the tree would be to add the input geometries to a
>> JTS Quadtree or STRtree and then traverse the tree in depth-first
>> order.  Unfortunately currently the implementations don't support the
>> ability to traverse the tree in any order - this wouldn't be too hard to
>> add, though.
>>
>> Thoughts?  Anyone keen on trying this out?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Becker wrote:
>>> I have committed the improved buffer plugin.  Three sample screens are
>>> attached in english, french, and german.It now supports buffering
>>> the selection. It provides a convenience union option.  The sidebar
>>> picture now previews the current options.  It copies attributes by
>>> default, even from selections on multiple layers, but this can be
>>> turned off.  It supports setting the number of segments in a quarter
>>> circle.
>>>
>>> Be careful with the union operation.  With large selections, it can
>>> take a long time.  For instance using Uwe's GeoCity project, I tried
>>> to buffer everything by 1000 meters.  Without union it completed in
>>> about 20 seconds, and with union I finally killed it after 5 minutes.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry Becker
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved buffer plugin

2007-08-31 Thread Martin Davis
Not sure I do see...  Either way, if you are doing repeated calls to 
union(), then this is going to be slow.  But maybe you mean that you are 
*combining* the input geometries in to a single multi-geometry, and then 
buffering that once?  That should be faster, then.  Although... for 
complex inputs, I suppose this could actually end up being slower than 
doing the buffers individually, and then using a cascading scheme to 
union them. 

Sounds like Stefan has a scheme to do this, anyway.  But it would be 
nice to get it into JTS.

Larry Becker wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
>   The union operation is implemented by buffering the union of the
> input, rather than the union of the input buffered, if you see the
> distinction.  I was hoping JTS had already optimized this, but from
> what you are saying, I would guess not.
>
> Larry
>
> On 8/31/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Cool...
>>
>> I think that one way around the "slow union" problem is to develop a
>> "Cascading Union" function.  This will build up a union of multiple
>> geometries by forming them into a tree, and recursively unioning the
>> branches of the tree from the leaves to the root.In theory this
>> should provide a fairly optimal balance between performance and memory use.
>>
>> A nice way to form the tree would be to add the input geometries to a
>> JTS Quadtree or STRtree and then traverse the tree in depth-first
>> order.  Unfortunately currently the implementations don't support the
>> ability to traverse the tree in any order - this wouldn't be too hard to
>> add, though.
>>
>> Thoughts?  Anyone keen on trying this out?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Becker wrote:
>> 
>>> I have committed the improved buffer plugin.  Three sample screens are
>>> attached in english, french, and german.It now supports buffering
>>> the selection. It provides a convenience union option.  The sidebar
>>> picture now previews the current options.  It copies attributes by
>>> default, even from selections on multiple layers, but this can be
>>> turned off.  It supports setting the number of segments in a quarter
>>> circle.
>>>
>>> Be careful with the union operation.  With large selections, it can
>>> take a long time.  For instance using Uwe's GeoCity project, I tried
>>> to buffer everything by 1000 meters.  Without union it completed in
>>> about 20 seconds, and with union I finally killed it after 5 minutes.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Larry Becker
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved buffer plugin

2007-08-31 Thread Martin Davis
Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> Yes.. as far as i know JTS has no optimization, but..
>
> * I implemented in the mapgen toolbox an union based on attributes that 
> utilizes the jts quadtree.
>   
Nifty.. 

What kind of performance improvement did you get?  Did this use a 
cascaded approach?

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved buffer plugin

2007-08-31 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi Martin,

The way I optimized the union plugin in OpenJUMP is not as clever as 
using a quadtree, but it is equivalent in the ideal case of regularly 
distributed features.
I just grouped features in a regular grid which size is computed based 
on the featurecollection envelope and size (number of features). This is 
an iterative process : when I finished the union in all grid cells, I do 
it again with a larger grid until I have no more geometry to union. I 
called it progressive union.
Performance improvement may be more than 10 x, and for large datasets, 
it simpley make it possible to union the layer.
I did not look for a better hack at the plugin level, as I thought that 
better performances can be obtained from JTS itself. But I'm not sure it 
is possible : what about PreparedGeometry ?

Regards

Michael

Martin Davis a écrit :

>Not sure I do see...  Either way, if you are doing repeated calls to 
>union(), then this is going to be slow.  But maybe you mean that you are 
>*combining* the input geometries in to a single multi-geometry, and then 
>buffering that once?  That should be faster, then.  Although... for 
>complex inputs, I suppose this could actually end up being slower than 
>doing the buffers individually, and then using a cascading scheme to 
>union them. 
>
>Sounds like Stefan has a scheme to do this, anyway.  But it would be 
>nice to get it into JTS.
>
>Larry Becker wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi Martin,
>>
>>  The union operation is implemented by buffering the union of the
>>input, rather than the union of the input buffered, if you see the
>>distinction.  I was hoping JTS had already optimized this, but from
>>what you are saying, I would guess not.
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>On 8/31/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>
>>>Cool...
>>>
>>>I think that one way around the "slow union" problem is to develop a
>>>"Cascading Union" function.  This will build up a union of multiple
>>>geometries by forming them into a tree, and recursively unioning the
>>>branches of the tree from the leaves to the root.In theory this
>>>should provide a fairly optimal balance between performance and memory use.
>>>
>>>A nice way to form the tree would be to add the input geometries to a
>>>JTS Quadtree or STRtree and then traverse the tree in depth-first
>>>order.  Unfortunately currently the implementations don't support the
>>>ability to traverse the tree in any order - this wouldn't be too hard to
>>>add, though.
>>>
>>>Thoughts?  Anyone keen on trying this out?
>>>
>>>Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Larry Becker wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
I have committed the improved buffer plugin.  Three sample screens are
attached in english, french, and german.It now supports buffering
the selection. It provides a convenience union option.  The sidebar
picture now previews the current options.  It copies attributes by
default, even from selections on multiple layers, but this can be
turned off.  It supports setting the number of segments in a quarter
circle.

Be careful with the union operation.  With large selections, it can
take a long time.  For instance using Uwe's GeoCity project, I tried
to buffer everything by 1000 meters.  Without union it completed in
about 20 seconds, and with union I finally killed it after 5 minutes.

regards,
Larry Becker












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