RE: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator poll, update
Can somebody help me stop the flood of income e-mails from PHP? I've signed to the newsletter and, during the last two month, made many attempts to "unsubscribe" - none works and I am getting 100's of e-mails from you. Please take me off the mailing list! Israel "Oulik" Alpert President & CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Israel "Oulik" Alpert President & CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office:972.855.3500 Fax:413.778.2146 Cell:214 325.1665 14755 Preston Road Suite 510 Dallas, TX 75254-6815 SiSTeR is the 1st and only application that allows encoding, compressing and uploading video as well as instant and online editing, voice over using a telephone and instant distribution via Vid-pages, Vid-mails and wireless MMS. Check it out at WWW.SiSTeR.TV and www.Pic2vid.com -Original Message- From: Oliver Grätz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:40 AM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator poll, update Stanislav Malyshev schrieb: > yacc can look one token ahead, AFAIR. This could help for "::" (reading a name and seeing "Oh, one more ::, so this is one more namespace"), but not for ":" (there the change of operator precedence would still be needed). OK, now this would have to be sorted out by some T_* guru ;-) OLLi -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator poll, update
Can somebody help me stop the flood of income e-mails from PHP? I've signed to the newsletter and, during the last two month, made many attempts to "unsubscribe" - none works and I am getting 100's of e-mails from you. Please take me off the mailing list! Israel "Oulik" Alpert President & CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office:972.855.3500 Fax:413.778.2146 Cell:214 325.1665 14755 Preston Road Suite 510 Dallas, TX 75254-6815 SiSTeR is the 1st and only application that allows encoding, compressing and uploading video as well as instant and online editing, voice over using a telephone and instant distribution via Vid-pages, Vid-mails and wireless MMS. Check it out at WWW.SiSTeR.TV and www.Pic2vid.com -Original Message- From: Greg Beaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:38 AM To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Oliver Grätz; internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator poll, update Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > OG>>BUT the discussion is not only about possibility but also about > OG>>what you would like. The ":" for example would work if mandatory > OG>>whitespace would be introduced for the ternary BUT this is very > OG>>very bad. > > If my vote is counted (not that I asked for it :) then I vote against > all > funky syntax, present and future. :: is only thing that is obvious and > somehow connected to the world of PHP as we know it now. Agreed, I am only in favor of :: if it is technically possible. Greg -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Can somebody help me stop the flood of income e-mails from PHP? I've signed to the newsletter and, during the last two month, made many attempts to "unsubscribe" - none works and I am getting 100's of e-mails from you. Please take me off the mailing list! -Original Message- From: Lukas Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:14 AM To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Labeled Breaks (not the G-word) Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > LS>>How is that different from "goto"? > > I start to suspect you just skip what I am writing. Didn't I explain > that > exception does not allow to jump to random points and goto does? You are argue on technical/internals terms. I agrue that what is "defined" and "clear" is determined by the amount of code that can be touched and how easily you can find the relevant points in your code. > LS>>And if you can jump through 80% if your code via an exception > LS>>while you unwind the stack it might be ordered but you tell me > LS>>that you know whats going on. For all intends and purposes it will > LS>>be just as random, with the > > Precentage of code that lies between throw point and catch point has > nothing to do with anything. The structure of the code - that you > always know which block encloses the code with exception potential and which code > would handle the exception if it arises - has everything to do with it. See above. The percentage and the searchability are the things that matter for the real world. *sigh* .. its so hard to stop argueing in circles ;-) regards, Lukas -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Can somebody help me stop the flood of income e-mails from PHP? I've signed to the newsletter and, during the last two month, made many attempts to "unsubscribe" - none works and I am getting 100's of e-mails from you. Please take me off the mailing list! Israel "Oulik" Alpert -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Can somebody help me stop the flood of income e-mails from PHP? I've signed to the newsletter and, during the last two month, made many attempts to "unsubscribe" - none works and I am getting 100's of e-mails from you. Please take me off the mailing list! Israel "Oulik" Alpert -Original Message- From: Bart de Boer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:35 AM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Labeled Breaks (not the G-word) It may be so that you can use exceptions as a sort of goto mechanism. And from some perspective you may even find some similarities. However, exceptions weren't invented for this purpose. (And they aren't introduced into PHP for this reason.) The main difference is that exceptions work with the *instance* of your code. (Enable you to fall back to some place in your OO structure.) Goto can't do that. Lukas Smith wrote: > Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > >> No, they are not. If you don't purposedly abuse it, exceptions are a >> structured way to handle exceptional situations, with well-defined >> effects and known control points. They won't allow you to randomly >> jump around the code. > > > How is that different from "goto"? > And if you can jump through 80% if your code via an exception while > you > unwind the stack it might be ordered but you tell me that you know whats > going on. For all intends and purposes it will be just as random, with > the difference that you can search for the goto much better than for the > exception handler. > > Anyways I have made my case and you have made yours. We can now choose > to ignore eachother :-) > > regards, > Lukas -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
