Re: nnatom broken?

2025-02-25 Thread Bartosz Kaczyński
Dnia 25 lutego 2025 21:03:52 CET, Joshua Barrett  napisał/a:
>The manual suggests that I should gnus-group-browse-foreign-server to
>look at atom feeds.


Make sure that you are not using http(s) prefix while adding feed



Re: save a copy of a message

2025-02-25 Thread Gottfried

Am 25.02.25 um 22:08 schrieb Adam Sjøgren:

   Hi,


Gottfried writes:


I am used to find my sent messages in the MUAs itself.


So am I.


I was looking for this folder of sent emails in gnus,
but there it doesn´t appear.


Did you subscribe to it?


I found out that I have already in my groups a folder
called: Summary nnfolder+archive:sent.2025-01

When opening the server with ^
There is a group:
nnfolder:archive
opening it, appear two groups:
sent.2025-01
sent.2025-02

So I learned something, that´s fine.




You can use F in the *Group* buffer to find new groups.



I did a F but there were no new groups.




So what are you going to do if,
in using gnus you want to check quickly your sent message?


I open my nnml+archive:mail-2025 group and look at the email.



This is what I mentioned above, I guess.



In Thunderbird I have an other folder and can see immediately my sent
emails.


You can configure Gnus to behave similarly, if that is what you want.

If you are using nnimap, something similar to:

 ; Archive outgoing email in Sent folder on imap.mcom.com:
 (setq gnus-message-archive-method '(nnimap "imap.mcom.com")
   gnus-message-archive-group "Sent")

should do the trick - of course you need to change "imap.mcom.com" to
whatever IMAP server you have configured.

And you have to subscribe to the "Sent" group.


I have configured mine to store news and mail in separate groups, once
per year, using nnml:


Does that mean after one year it separates your sent messages?


I have a group per year, yes. The default, as you saw, is one per
month. I prefer one per year.


What happens than in the year?


A new group magically appears. In my setup, next year when I write the
first email of the year, a copy is stored in the new group
nnml+archive:mail-2026.


Do I have to look for a sent message in the folder, where news and
emails are stored together?


I would look at the sent messages in Gnus, but it's up to you how you
want to do it.

How to handle email is a very personal thing.



Yes, but I am a newbie and can´t even know the possibilities.

So I am thankful for every info, to learn step by step

Thanks

Gottfried


   Best regards,

 Adam






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Re: nnatom broken?

2025-02-25 Thread Joshua Barrett
Bartosz Kaczyński  writes:

> Dnia 25 lutego 2025 21:03:52 CET, Joshua Barrett  
> napisał/a:
>>The manual suggests that I should gnus-group-browse-foreign-server to
>>look at atom feeds.
>
>
> Make sure that you are not using http(s) prefix while adding feed

I did. I got the error message saying that's incorrect when I failed to do so.

The problem went away after I set mm-url-program to curl, so it may have been 
an issue with wget?



nnatom broken?

2025-02-25 Thread Joshua Barrett
The manual suggests that I should gnus-group-browse-foreign-server to
look at atom feeds. However, when I do this, I receive the message
"couldn't request list: nil", without fail. I have tried this on
multiple feeds, so it's not just one feed, it's across the board.

I've tried digging into the sources to figure out why this could be, but
I'm not quite familiar enough with the backend internals to work it out.



Re: save a copy of a message

2025-02-25 Thread Gottfried

Hi,

thanks very much for this info.

That is a good solution.

Yes, I changed it to nnimap.
Will no copy be saved in my nnml group then?

Gottfried


Am 25.02.25 um 18:54 schrieb e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk:

Response below/inline for email gfp wrote:

(original email sent 25 Feb 2025 at 13:17)

Hi,

I read the manual, but I didn´t find something
how can I save a copy of my message.
I would like a copy of messages I send.


I have the following in my gnus configuration file which tells gnus to
file a copy in the group you are in when writing an email:


   (setq gnus-parameters '(("^nnml.*" (gcc-self . t

This applies to nnml groups; if you are using IMAP, you'll probably want
to change nnml to nnimap.





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Re: save a copy of a message

2025-02-25 Thread e . fraga
Response below/inline for email gfp wrote:
> (original email sent 25 Feb 2025 at 13:17)
> 
> Hi,
>
> I read the manual, but I didn´t find something
> how can I save a copy of my message.
> I would like a copy of messages I send.

I have the following in my gnus configuration file which tells gnus to
file a copy in the group you are in when writing an email:


  (setq gnus-parameters '(("^nnml.*" (gcc-self . t

This applies to nnml groups; if you are using IMAP, you'll probably want
to change nnml to nnimap.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 29.4 2025-02-12) on Debian trixie/sid




Re: gnus can´t be opened because it can´t fetch one nnrss feed

2025-02-25 Thread gfp


Am 23.02.25 um 17:01 schrieb gfp:

Hi,

is that the normal case that if Gnus can´t open one nnrss feed
that all other feeds and emails as well can´t be opened?

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error 
"http://trisquel.info/de/forum/troll-lounge/feed"; "Service unavailable")
   signal(file-error ("http://trisquel.info/de/forum/troll-lounge/feed"; 
"Service unavailable"))

   nnrss-fetch("http://trisquel.info/de/forum/troll-lounge/feed";)
   nnrss-check-group("Trisquel Trollhöhle" "")


Gottfried


The webside, which blocks everything, is down.
So M-x gnus opens an empty page.

I found out that I can use:
M-x gnus-no-server

In this way I can at least get all groups,
but it does not show unread messages.

If I do a "g" to get the new messages,
new messages are fetched.

Is that the only way to get into the groups at least?

Gottfried


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Re: save a copy of a message

2025-02-25 Thread Adam Sjøgren
  Hi,


Gottfried writes:

> I am used to find my sent messages in the MUAs itself.

So am I.

> I was looking for this folder of sent emails in gnus,
> but there it doesn´t appear.

Did you subscribe to it?

You can use F in the *Group* buffer to find new groups.

> So what are you going to do if,
> in using gnus you want to check quickly your sent message?

I open my nnml+archive:mail-2025 group and look at the email.

> In Thunderbird I have an other folder and can see immediately my sent
> emails.

You can configure Gnus to behave similarly, if that is what you want.

If you are using nnimap, something similar to:

; Archive outgoing email in Sent folder on imap.mcom.com:
(setq gnus-message-archive-method '(nnimap "imap.mcom.com")
  gnus-message-archive-group "Sent")

should do the trick - of course you need to change "imap.mcom.com" to
whatever IMAP server you have configured.

And you have to subscribe to the "Sent" group.

>> I have configured mine to store news and mail in separate groups, once
>> per year, using nnml:
>
> Does that mean after one year it separates your sent messages?

I have a group per year, yes. The default, as you saw, is one per
month. I prefer one per year.

> What happens than in the year?

A new group magically appears. In my setup, next year when I write the
first email of the year, a copy is stored in the new group
nnml+archive:mail-2026.

> Do I have to look for a sent message in the folder, where news and
> emails are stored together?

I would look at the sent messages in Gnus, but it's up to you how you
want to do it.

How to handle email is a very personal thing.


  Best regards,

Adam

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Re: save a copy of a message

2025-02-25 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
Hi Gottfried!

The outgoing mail _is_ in the MUA, but it may not be visible by default.

In the *Groups* buffer, just "join" the archive folder for outgoing
messages by hitting 'j' followed by the name of the folder, e.g.,
"nnml+archive:mail.2025-02" (TAB completion works). It will then appear
as a mail folder and you can select it just as any normal mail folder
and peruse it to your heart's content. 🙂 New messages that you send
will appear there automagically.

The slight drawback is that you have join a new folder every month, but
that becomes a habit, at which point I also have the habit of
"Unjoining" ('u') the outgoing file which is a year old, so I keep the
outgoing folders for the past 12 months "visible". Unjoining doesn't
delete the contents, it just drops the folder from being visible in the
*Groups* buffer. You can re-join it again with 'j' at any later point in
time.

Best regards,
  /Liman

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gottfr...@posteo.de 2025-02-25 14:42 [+]:
> Hi Adam,

> thanks very much.

> I am used to find my sent messages in the MUAs itself.
> I was looking for this folder of sent emails in gnus,
> but there it doesn´t appear.

> So I checked my directory.
> My sent messages appear in my home directory/Mail/archive/sent
> which is still strange for me.
> I am not used to that.

> 2.
> So what are you going to do if,
> in using gnus you want to check quickly your sent message?
> In Thunderbird I have an other folder and can see immediately my sent
> emails.

> 3.

>> I have configured mine to store news and mail in separate groups, once
>>> per year, using nnml:

> Does that mean after one year it separates your sent messages?
> What happens than in the year?
> Do I have to look for a sent message in the folder, where news and
> emails are stored together?

> Kind Regards

> Gottfried


> Am 25.02.25 um 14:57 schrieb Adam Sjøgren:
>> gfp writes:
>> 
>>> I read the manual, but I didn´t find something
>>> how can I save a copy of my message.
>>> I would like a copy of messages I send.
>> By default Gnus saves a copy of outgoing messages in
>> nnfolder:sent-YYY-MM.
>> You can configure gnus-message-archive-method to do something else.
>> I have configured mine to store news and mail in separate groups,
>> once
>> per year, using nnml:
>> (setq gnus-message-archive-method '(nnml "archive"
>> (nnml-directory "~/Mail/archive")
>> (nnml-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
>> (nnml-get-new-mail nil)
>> (gnus-search-engine gnus-search-notmuch)
>> (nnml-inhibit-expiry t)))
>> (setq gnus-message-archive-group
>> '((if (message-news-p)
>> (concat "news-" (format-time-string "%Y"))
>> (concat "mail-" (format-time-string "%Y")
>> The documentation is under "5.5 Archived Messages":
>> https://gnus.org/manual/gnus_75.html#Archived-Messages
>> Best regards,
>> Adam



Re: save a copy of a message

2025-02-25 Thread Gottfried

Hi Adam,

thanks very much.

I am used to find my sent messages in the MUAs itself.
I was looking for this folder of sent emails in gnus,
but there it doesn´t appear.

So I checked my directory.
My sent messages appear in my home directory/Mail/archive/sent
which is still strange for me.
I am not used to that.

2.
So what are you going to do if,
in using gnus you want to check quickly your sent message?
In Thunderbird I have an other folder and can see immediately my sent 
emails.


3.


I have configured mine to store news and mail in separate groups, once

per year, using nnml:


Does that mean after one year it separates your sent messages?
What happens than in the year?
Do I have to look for a sent message in the folder, where news and 
emails are stored together?


Kind Regards

Gottfried


Am 25.02.25 um 14:57 schrieb Adam Sjøgren:

gfp writes:


I read the manual, but I didn´t find something
how can I save a copy of my message.
I would like a copy of messages I send.


By default Gnus saves a copy of outgoing messages in nnfolder:sent-YYY-MM.

You can configure gnus-message-archive-method to do something else.

I have configured mine to store news and mail in separate groups, once
per year, using nnml:

 (setq gnus-message-archive-method '(nnml "archive"
(nnml-directory "~/Mail/archive")
(nnml-active-file 
"~/Mail/archive/active")
(nnml-get-new-mail nil)
(gnus-search-engine gnus-search-notmuch)
(nnml-inhibit-expiry t)))
 (setq gnus-message-archive-group
   '((if (message-news-p)
 (concat "news-" (format-time-string "%Y"))
   (concat "mail-" (format-time-string "%Y")

The documentation is under "5.5 Archived Messages": 
https://gnus.org/manual/gnus_75.html#Archived-Messages


   Best regards,

 Adam





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Re: save a copy of a message

2025-02-25 Thread Adam Sjøgren
gfp writes:

> I read the manual, but I didn´t find something
> how can I save a copy of my message.
> I would like a copy of messages I send.

By default Gnus saves a copy of outgoing messages in nnfolder:sent-YYY-MM.

You can configure gnus-message-archive-method to do something else.

I have configured mine to store news and mail in separate groups, once
per year, using nnml:

(setq gnus-message-archive-method '(nnml "archive"
   (nnml-directory "~/Mail/archive")
   (nnml-active-file 
"~/Mail/archive/active")
   (nnml-get-new-mail nil)
   (gnus-search-engine gnus-search-notmuch)
   (nnml-inhibit-expiry t)))
(setq gnus-message-archive-group
  '((if (message-news-p)
(concat "news-" (format-time-string "%Y"))
  (concat "mail-" (format-time-string "%Y")

The documentation is under "5.5 Archived Messages": 
https://gnus.org/manual/gnus_75.html#Archived-Messages


  Best regards,

Adam

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keyword

2025-02-25 Thread gfp

Hi,

in Thunderbird I can add a "keyword" to every message
in order to find it later more easily.

What are the possibilities in Gnus a keyword?

thanks

Gottfried


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save a copy of a message

2025-02-25 Thread gfp

Hi,

I read the manual, but I didn´t find something
how can I save a copy of my message.
I would like a copy of messages I send.

How can I achieve that?

thanks

Gottfried


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