[imp] Changed 'cache' parameter of in backends.local.php

2014-01-14 Thread ANANT S ATHAVALE

Dear List,

Based on suggestion, changed 'cache' parameter configured in
backends.local.php of IMP from 'cache' to 'sql'.  Which table of Horde
will now contain Cache?  I checked the contents of horde_cache and had no
entries. Please clarify.
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Re: [imp] Changed 'cache' parameter of in backends.local.php

2014-01-14 Thread lst_hoe02


Zitat von ANANT S ATHAVALE :


Dear List,

Based on suggestion, changed 'cache' parameter configured in
backends.local.php of IMP from 'cache' to 'sql'.  Which table of Horde
will now contain Cache?  I checked the contents of horde_cache and had no
entries. Please clarify.


From what i know it is in the horde_imap_client_* tables.

Regards

Andreas


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Re: [imp] Changed 'cache' parameter of in backends.local.php

2014-01-14 Thread ANANT S ATHAVALE

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   Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:39:03 +0100
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Subject: ***SPAM-UTM*** Re: [imp] Changed 'cache' parameter of in
backends.local.php
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Zitat von ANANT S ATHAVALE :


Dear List,

Based on suggestion, changed 'cache' parameter configured in
backends.local.php of IMP from 'cache' to 'sql'.  Which table of Horde
will now contain Cache?  I checked the contents of horde_cache and had

no

entries. Please clarify.


From what i know it is in the horde_imap_client_* tables.

Regards

Andreas

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Yes, the tables contain data.  But, I felt, checking mails was slow when
compared to when it was set to 'cache'.  Mysqld is local to the system. 
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Re: [imp] Base64-only message not quoted in reply

2014-01-14 Thread Robin Bankhead


Quoting Michael M Slusarz :


Quoting Robin Bankhead :

Didn't want to ticket this automatically in case it's put down to  
bad message format (I'm no expert but this seems a common reply to  
such issues).


The (redacted) message below is all base64-encoded text/plain and  
has no plaintext part.  It views fine, but when replying to it, it  
is not quoted.  We have no issues with the original HTML +  
quoted-printable messages from the same sender, but their replies  
to our replies always come in this base64-only format (I wonder if  
their Barracuda spam firewall is doing this?)


This *faintly* sounds like an issue that may have occurred many  
years ago, but IIRC it was either an issue with a specific PHP  
version (possibly dealing with variable references) or has long  
since been fixed in IMP and/or Horde.


michael

Indeed, I was going off this old ticket[1], though the difference is  
that person got raw base64 in the reply quote; I get nothing.


PHP version is 4.3.1; currently I can (if necessary) upgrade to a  
later 4.3 version, but I'm not able to go beyond that without full  
code-review of the other application on the same server.


Horde platform is groupware-H5 pear on Windows/Apache2.2, all up to  
date excepting imp-6.1.5 (and I see nothing in changelog that might  
address this).


Thanks,
Robin Bankhead


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Re: [imp] Changed 'cache' parameter of in backends.local.php

2014-01-14 Thread lst_hoe02


Zitat von ANANT S ATHAVALE :


- Message from lst_ho...@kwsoft.de -
   Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:39:03 +0100
   From: lst_ho...@kwsoft.de
Subject: ***SPAM-UTM*** Re: [imp] Changed 'cache' parameter of in
backends.local.php
     To: imp@lists.horde.org


Zitat von ANANT S ATHAVALE :


Dear List,

Based on suggestion, changed 'cache' parameter configured in
backends.local.php of IMP from 'cache' to 'sql'.  Which table of Horde
will now contain Cache?  I checked the contents of horde_cache and had

no

entries. Please clarify.


From what i know it is in the horde_imap_client_* tables.

Regards

Andreas

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Yes, the tables contain data.  But, I felt, checking mails was slow when
compared to when it was set to 'cache'.  Mysqld is local to the system. 


Some time ago one of the Horde developers explained to me that because  
of overhead when using Horde file base cache (serialization) for IMAP  
caching, the sql cache would be more useful in this case. It might be  
though that when you have a database with slow insert but fast CPU the  
picture changes. From different other projects i have heard that MySQL  
could be *really* slow on inserts, but we use PostgreSQL so i could  
not comment on this.


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Andreas


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Re: [imp] Base64-only message not quoted in reply

2014-01-14 Thread Simon Wilson

- Message from Robin Bankhead  -
   Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:21:09 +
   From: Robin Bankhead 
Subject: Re: [imp] Base64-only message not quoted in reply
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Quoting Michael M Slusarz :


Quoting Robin Bankhead :

Didn't want to ticket this automatically in case it's put down to  
bad message format (I'm no expert but this seems a common reply to  
such issues).


The (redacted) message below is all base64-encoded text/plain and  
has no plaintext part.  It views fine, but when replying to it, it  
is not quoted.  We have no issues with the original HTML +  
quoted-printable messages from the same sender, but their replies  
to our replies always come in this base64-only format (I wonder if  
their Barracuda spam firewall is doing this?)


This *faintly* sounds like an issue that may have occurred many  
years ago, but IIRC it was either an issue with a specific PHP  
version (possibly dealing with variable references) or has long  
since been fixed in IMP and/or Horde.


michael

Indeed, I was going off this old ticket[1], though the difference is  
that person got raw base64 in the reply quote; I get nothing.


PHP version is 4.3.1; currently I can (if necessary) upgrade to a  
later 4.3 version, but I'm not able to go beyond that without full  
code-review of the other application on the same server.




Do you mean 5.3, or are you really running a 10 year old PHP?

Horde platform is groupware-H5 pear on Windows/Apache2.2, all up to  
date excepting imp-6.1.5 (and I see nothing in changelog that might  
address this).


Thanks,
Robin Bankhead


Simon.

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Re: [imp] Base64-only message not quoted in reply

2014-01-14 Thread Robin Bankhead


Quoting Robin Bankhead :


Quoting Michael M Slusarz :


Quoting Robin Bankhead :

Didn't want to ticket this automatically in case it's put down to  
bad message format (I'm no expert but this seems a common reply to  
such issues).


The (redacted) message below is all base64-encoded text/plain and  
has no plaintext part.  It views fine, but when replying to it, it  
is not quoted.  We have no issues with the original HTML +  
quoted-printable messages from the same sender, but their replies  
to our replies always come in this base64-only format (I wonder if  
their Barracuda spam firewall is doing this?)


This *faintly* sounds like an issue that may have occurred many  
years ago, but IIRC it was either an issue with a specific PHP  
version (possibly dealing with variable references) or has long  
since been fixed in IMP and/or Horde.


michael

Indeed, I was going off this old ticket[1], though the difference is  
that person got raw base64 in the reply quote; I get nothing.


PHP version is 4.3.1; currently I can (if necessary) upgrade to a  
later 4.3 version, but I'm not able to go beyond that without full  
code-review of the other application on the same server.


Horde platform is groupware-H5 pear on Windows/Apache2.2, all up to  
date excepting imp-6.1.5 (and I see nothing in changelog that might  
address this).


Thanks,
Robin Bankhead

Arggg - sorry, the above should have read PHP 5.3.1 (Thanks for the  
catch, Simon).


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Re: [imp] Base64-only message not quoted in reply

2014-01-14 Thread Michael M Slusarz

Quoting Robin Bankhead :


Quoting Robin Bankhead :


Quoting Michael M Slusarz :


Quoting Robin Bankhead :

Didn't want to ticket this automatically in case it's put down to  
bad message format (I'm no expert but this seems a common reply  
to such issues).


The (redacted) message below is all base64-encoded text/plain and  
has no plaintext part.  It views fine, but when replying to it,  
it is not quoted.  We have no issues with the original HTML +  
quoted-printable messages from the same sender, but their replies  
to our replies always come in this base64-only format (I wonder  
if their Barracuda spam firewall is doing this?)


This *faintly* sounds like an issue that may have occurred many  
years ago, but IIRC it was either an issue with a specific PHP  
version (possibly dealing with variable references) or has long  
since been fixed in IMP and/or Horde.


michael

Indeed, I was going off this old ticket[1], though the difference  
is that person got raw base64 in the reply quote; I get nothing.


PHP version is 4.3.1; currently I can (if necessary) upgrade to a  
later 4.3 version, but I'm not able to go beyond that without full  
code-review of the other application on the same server.


Horde platform is groupware-H5 pear on Windows/Apache2.2, all up to  
date excepting imp-6.1.5 (and I see nothing in changelog that might  
address this).


Thanks,
Robin Bankhead

Arggg - sorry, the above should have read PHP 5.3.1 (Thanks for the  
catch, Simon).


Not sure what ticket you are linking to... there was no link in the message.

I *really* think this is probably the issue though.  My memory is that  
there were bugs in the past relating to PHP variable references that  
may cause this kind of behavior.  And I would also classify PHP 5.3.1  
as ancient ... it's over 5 years old.  I personally would not want to  
be running 5 year old code that is potentially publicly accessible to  
the Internet, if just for security reasons.


michael

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Re: [imp] Changed 'cache' parameter of in backends.local.php

2014-01-14 Thread Michael M Slusarz

Quoting ANANT S ATHAVALE :


- Message from lst_ho...@kwsoft.de -
   Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:39:03 +0100
   From: lst_ho...@kwsoft.de
Subject: ***SPAM-UTM*** Re: [imp] Changed 'cache' parameter of in
backends.local.php
     To: imp@lists.horde.org


Zitat von ANANT S ATHAVALE :


Dear List,

Based on suggestion, changed 'cache' parameter configured in
backends.local.php of IMP from 'cache' to 'sql'.  Which table of Horde
will now contain Cache?  I checked the contents of horde_cache and had

no

entries. Please clarify.


From what i know it is in the horde_imap_client_* tables.

Regards

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Yes, the tables contain data.  But, I felt, checking mails was slow when
compared to when it was set to 'cache'.  Mysqld is local to the system. 


Was your cache using SQL?  There's simply no way that could be true.   
Horde_Cache using the same SQL driver backend with the overhead of  
Horde_Cache wrappers (and additional overhead in the IMAP Horde_Cache  
driver to correctly track the cache entries).


If your cache backend is local files... then obviously this will be slower.

I really could sit here and talk about these kind of performance  
issues all day.  But you've sort of touched on the endsum of open  
source software.  The software itself is free.  How to use the  
software - including such things such as "Which cache backend should I  
use?" - is where you get beyond the scope of open source software and  
into the scope of the consulting side of things.  Indeed - this is  
where I make a good chunk of my living: explaining to people HOW to  
setup their software for the best effect.


michael

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