Stunted JES2 spool volume and other questions
I tried to add a few spool volumes (z/OS 2.3) without paying attention to the TGSPACE value. My bad. Two were added, one was *stunted* and the last two were ignored. Now, I want to dynamically increase TGSPACE and SPOOLNUM and then add more spool volumes. Current TGSPACE=814,375 and 75% used Current SPOOLNUM=32 with 27 used and #28 stunted I need to know a few things: 1. How big do my checkpoints need to be if I plan to TRIPLE the TGSPACE to 2,443,200 and raise the SPOOLNUM to 64? * CKPT1 is a structure (150M and 78% used) * CKPT2 is 200 cylinders on DASD 2. How do I get the rest of the track groups formatted on SPOOL #28 Plan is to $TSPOOLDEF the TGSPACE followed by the SPOOLNUM. If that goes well, handle #28 then $SPL(xxx), format several more spool volumes. Any help/understanding would be appreciated. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REXX MVSVAR SYMDEF behavoiur
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, at 04:28, Bruce Hewson wrote: > Hi, > > examples using the code I posted. > > %SYMSUB 'testing &sysname in &sysplex' > &'TESTING TSYS IN PLEX40'. > READY > %SYMSUB 'Foo' > > READY > %SYMSUB 'Foo &sysname' > &'FOO TSYS'. > READY What do %SYMSUB 'SYSNAME' and %SYMSUB SYSNAME do?I don't have access to a machine to try this on. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS
Hello I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:47:17 +0400, Peter wrote: > >I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well >but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. > And it will die with Catalina, >Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ? > Check the archives of this list for last January. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS
Why the determination not to financially reward the developers for their efforts? Why would I hypothetically write a 3270 emulator if it's not important enough to pay for? Why are computer people so loathe to financially reward computer people? We're not talking 1% territory here. Tom Brennan's Vista -- my preferred emulator but not an option for the Mac -- costs $30 for a single user. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:47:17 +0400, Peter wrote: > >I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well >but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. > And it will die with Catalina, >Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ? > Check the archives of this list for last January. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS
Ive been trying to get in touch with the guy who wrote the brown university emulator. So far no response... Joe On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:04 PM Charles Mills wrote: > Why the determination not to financially reward the developers for their > efforts? Why would I hypothetically write a 3270 emulator if it's not > important enough to pay for? > > Why are computer people so loathe to financially reward computer people? > > We're not talking 1% territory here. Tom Brennan's Vista -- my preferred > emulator but not an option for the Mac -- costs $30 for a single user. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS > > On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:47:17 +0400, Peter wrote: > > > >I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well > >but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. > > > And it will die with Catalina, > > >Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ? > > > Check the archives of this list for last January. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 16:47:36 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: >Ive been trying to get in touch with the guy who wrote the brown university >emulator. So far no response... > On https://www.brown.edu/cis/tn3270/index.html#latest Peter DiCamillo says has no resource nor intention to support a 64-bit version required by 10.15 (Catalina). He solicit volunteers for an open-source port effort. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS
Yep ... so as soon as he responds to me we can make that happen. The conversion from Cocoa to the new APIs isnt hard. Joe On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:55 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 16:47:36 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: > > >Ive been trying to get in touch with the guy who wrote the brown > university > >emulator. So far no response... > > > On https://www.brown.edu/cis/tn3270/index.html#latest > Peter DiCamillo says has no resource nor intention to support > a 64-bit version required by 10.15 (Catalina). He solicit volunteers > for an open-source port effort. > > -- gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: strange python announcement
Bah, true nerds use APL! On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 17:29 Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > What's a nerd to do? LUA, Rexx or Python? > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 5:08 AM Roland Koo wrote: > > > The focus of this announcement is on IBM's intent to participate in the > > open source community to help establish Python as a strategic programming > > language on z/OS. We will provide more updates as they become available. > > Stay tuned... > > > > Roland Koo > > IBM Program Director, Offering Management, Enterprise Products & > Compilers > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: strange python announcement
John, Very funny but true, Jack I agree python is getting extremely popular. I read it was going to takeover from Java. Scott On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 6:19 PM John McKown wrote: > Bah, true nerds use APL! > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 17:29 Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > > > What's a nerd to do? LUA, Rexx or Python? > > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 5:08 AM Roland Koo wrote: > > > > > The focus of this announcement is on IBM's intent to participate in the > > > open source community to help establish Python as a strategic > programming > > > language on z/OS. We will provide more updates as they become > available. > > > Stay tuned... > > > > > > Roland Koo > > > IBM Program Director, Offering Management, Enterprise Products & > > Compilers > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > -- > > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: strange python announcement
I'm looking at Python on the Rocket site. Practically speaking, is Python usable from TSO or only from the UNIX command prompt? That is > There's no advantage to REXX anymore, as fine a language as it is. In Rexx under TSO, I can allocate couple of datasets and then run a "legacy MVS" (you know what I mean) program. Is that practical in Python? Not picking fights here -- inquiring minds just want to know. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 7:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: strange python announcement On 3/27/20 4:28 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > What's a nerd to do? LUA, Rexx or Python? Python. It's moving forward, great module support, easy syntax. There's no advantage to REXX anymore, as fine a language as it is. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS
There's room for both open source and proprietary software. My preference is for well maintained software to which I can easily make local changes. If I have to pay a reasonable license fee and can only provide my changes to people who are licensed, that's fine. Are you actually seeing resistance to priced software, or only to OCO software? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS Why the determination not to financially reward the developers for their efforts? Why would I hypothetically write a 3270 emulator if it's not important enough to pay for? Why are computer people so loathe to financially reward computer people? We're not talking 1% territory here. Tom Brennan's Vista -- my preferred emulator but not an option for the Mac -- costs $30 for a single user. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:47:17 +0400, Peter wrote: > >I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well >but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. > And it will die with Catalina, >Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ? > Check the archives of this list for last January. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REXX MVSVAR SYMDEF behavoiur
SYMSUB is a REXX routine that he wrote to pass the argument to
MVSVAR('SYMDEF',*) and display or return the result.
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On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, at 04:28, Bruce Hewson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> examples using the code I posted.
>
> %SYMSUB 'testing &sysname in &sysplex'
> &'TESTING TSYS IN PLEX40'.
> READY
> %SYMSUB 'Foo'
>
> READY
> %SYMSUB 'Foo &sysname'
> &'FOO TSYS'.
> READY
What do
%SYMSUB 'SYSNAME'
and
%SYMSUB SYSNAME
do?I don't have access to a machine to try this on.
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Re: strange python announcement
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 16:42:20 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I'm looking at Python on the Rocket site. > >Practically speaking, is Python usable from TSO or only from the UNIX command >prompt? That is > >> There's no advantage to REXX anymore, as fine a language as it is. > >In Rexx under TSO, I can allocate couple of datasets and then run a "legacy >MVS" (you know what I mean) program. > Equally true under OMVS. Allocate with BPXWDYN and execute with ADDRESS LINKMVS. As a bonus, LINKMVS supports an alternate DDNAME list. >... Is that practical in Python? > >Not picking fights here -- inquiring minds just want to know. > Hmmm. It appears that ISPF, NFS, and FTP use similar integrity protection on PDS(E): ENQ SHR on SYSDSN and ENQ EXCL on SPFEDIT member. Wouldn't it be great if that code were factored out and made available to all OMVS and z/OS utilities such as Python? (And NFS appears to use FAMS timestamps on PDSE members.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: strange python announcement
Gil and Charles, Both excellent questions, I don’t know ..I wonder if the Rocket documentation for Python for Z talks about it ? Scott On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:21 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 16:42:20 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > > >I'm looking at Python on the Rocket site. > > > >Practically speaking, is Python usable from TSO or only from the UNIX > command prompt? That is > > > >> There's no advantage to REXX anymore, as fine a language as it is. > > > >In Rexx under TSO, I can allocate couple of datasets and then run a > "legacy MVS" (you know what I mean) program. > > > Equally true under OMVS. Allocate with BPXWDYN and execute with ADDRESS > LINKMVS. > As a bonus, LINKMVS supports an alternate DDNAME list. > > >... Is that practical in Python? > > > >Not picking fights here -- inquiring minds just want to know. > > > Hmmm. It appears that ISPF, NFS, and FTP use similar integrity protection > on PDS(E): ENQ SHR on SYSDSN and ENQ EXCL on SPFEDIT member. > Wouldn't it be great if that code were factored out and made available > to all OMVS and z/OS utilities such as Python? > > (And NFS appears to use FAMS timestamps on PDSE members.) > > -- gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REXX MVSVAR SYMDEF behavoiur
Hello Jeremy, I have been coding the single quote around 'MVSVAR' and other TSO External Functions seemingly forever. I assume that I have to do that as I run with SIGNAL NOVALUE enabled. On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:09:40 +, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > >Apart from the documented behaviour of MVSVAR (which I found with Google) >there's maybe the point that in your code you've got single quotes around >"mvsvar". That, IIRC, suggests an external function. > >You might be calling a local (ie your site only) modfied version of mvsvar(). > >-- >Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > Regards Bruce -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REXX MVSVAR SYMDEF behavoiur
SIGNAL NOVALUE has no effect on the treatment of function names. The only difference between calling MVSVAR and 'MVSVAR' is that with the latter REXX will skip the search for an MVSVAR: label and will only search in external function packages, load library concatenations* and procedure library concatenations. * I'm including PDSE libraries in the term. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bruce Hewson [bruce_hew...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: REXX MVSVAR SYMDEF behavoiur Hello Jeremy, I have been coding the single quote around 'MVSVAR' and other TSO External Functions seemingly forever. I assume that I have to do that as I run with SIGNAL NOVALUE enabled. On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:09:40 +, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > >Apart from the documented behaviour of MVSVAR (which I found with Google) >there's maybe the point that in your code you've got single quotes around >"mvsvar". That, IIRC, suggests an external function. > >You might be calling a local (ie your site only) modfied version of mvsvar(). > >-- >Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > Regards Bruce -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS
We use Mocha (was recommended here) and it is cheap and work well (does include support for ind$file). ITschak בתאריך יום א׳, 29 במרץ 2020, 0:04, מאת Charles Mills : > Why the determination not to financially reward the developers for their > efforts? Why would I hypothetically write a 3270 emulator if it's not > important enough to pay for? > > Why are computer people so loathe to financially reward computer people? > > We're not talking 1% territory here. Tom Brennan's Vista -- my preferred > emulator but not an option for the Mac -- costs $30 for a single user. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS > > On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:47:17 +0400, Peter wrote: > > > >I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well > >but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. > > > And it will die with Catalina, > > >Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ? > > > Check the archives of this list for last January. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: strange python announcement
On 2020-03-29 7:42 AM, Charles Mills wrote: I'm looking at Python on the Rocket site. Practically speaking, is Python usable from TSO or only from the UNIX command prompt? That is USS only as it's enhanced ASCII (file tagging). You could call it from TSO using bpxwunix or something similar. There's no advantage to REXX anymore, as fine a language as it is. In Rexx under TSO, I can allocate couple of datasets and then run a "legacy MVS" (you know what I mean) program. Is that practical in Python? There is no legacy MVS data set support in Rockets Python port. There have been several internal discussions about it and it's on the radar. I don't work on ported tools so I don't know any more. Not picking fights here -- inquiring minds just want to know. Truth is a lot of the guys using Python on z/OS don't know REXX and hardly ever login to TSO. They use a command shell, store their source code in the z/OS UNIX file system and use Git as the SCM. If they want to run a TSO command they can use the z/OS UNIX "tsocmd" command with scripting features very similar to outtrap in TSO REXX. Maybe the target audience for Python on z/OS just isn't the old guys who have used REXX for 30+ years. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 7:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: strange python announcement On 3/27/20 4:28 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: What's a nerd to do? LUA, Rexx or Python? Python. It's moving forward, great module support, easy syntax. There's no advantage to REXX anymore, as fine a language as it is. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: strange python announcement
On 2020-03-29 7:21 AM, scott Ford wrote: John, Very funny but true, Jack I agree python is getting extremely popular. According to Tiobe it's been one of the most popular languages for the last 15 years. https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ I read it was going to takeover from Java. I very much doubt it! Python has become the language of choice for machine learning due to highly efficient libraries like PyTorch written in C. It's domain is general purpose scripting, data science and back-end's (Instragram is written in Python). Java is the king of the enterprise and that won't change anytime soon. https://learn.onemonth.com/10-famous-websites-built-using-python/ Scott On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 6:19 PM John McKown wrote: Bah, true nerds use APL! On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 17:29 Wayne Bickerdike wrote: What's a nerd to do? LUA, Rexx or Python? On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 5:08 AM Roland Koo wrote: The focus of this announcement is on IBM's intent to participate in the open source community to help establish Python as a strategic programming language on z/OS. We will provide more updates as they become available. Stay tuned... Roland Koo IBM Program Director, Offering Management, Enterprise Products & Compilers -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
