[hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 for Fedora 17

2012-03-28 Thread Carlo de Wolf
Hi guys,

We would really like to have Hibernate 4 in Fedora 17 (ultimately for 
the installation of AS 7 [1]).

Problem is: there is no Gradle in Fedora [2], so it is impossible to 
build Hibernate 4 with the given Gradle scripts.

Do you guys see a solution for this stale-mate?
Maybe we can get some Ant scripts for building Hibernate 4?

Carlo

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JBossAS7
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769321
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 for Fedora 17

2012-03-28 Thread Scott Marlow
Carlo,

Are there gradle jiras for making gradle safe enough to include in Fedora?

Scott

On 03/28/2012 07:03 AM, Carlo de Wolf wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> We would really like to have Hibernate 4 in Fedora 17 (ultimately for
> the installation of AS 7 [1]).
>
> Problem is: there is no Gradle in Fedora [2], so it is impossible to
> build Hibernate 4 with the given Gradle scripts.
>
> Do you guys see a solution for this stale-mate?
> Maybe we can get some Ant scripts for building Hibernate 4?
>
> Carlo
>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JBossAS7
> [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769321
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 for Fedora 17

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
I guess my first question is why there is not Gradle available.  Strong 
has done lots of work to make Gradle work in Brew; isn't that what 
Fedora uses as well?


On 03/28/2012 06:03 AM, Carlo de Wolf wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> We would really like to have Hibernate 4 in Fedora 17 (ultimately for
> the installation of AS 7 [1]).
>
> Problem is: there is no Gradle in Fedora [2], so it is impossible to
> build Hibernate 4 with the given Gradle scripts.
>
> Do you guys see a solution for this stale-mate?
> Maybe we can get some Ant scripts for building Hibernate 4?
>
> Carlo
>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JBossAS7
> [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769321
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 for Fedora 17

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
We are having a good discussion about this on #fedora-java...

On Wed 28 Mar 2012 08:46:42 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> I guess my first question is why there is not Gradle available. Strong 
> has done lots of work to make Gradle work in Brew; isn't that what 
> Fedora uses as well?
>
>
> On 03/28/2012 06:03 AM, Carlo de Wolf wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> We would really like to have Hibernate 4 in Fedora 17 (ultimately for
>> the installation of AS 7 [1]).
>>
>> Problem is: there is no Gradle in Fedora [2], so it is impossible to
>> build Hibernate 4 with the given Gradle scripts.
>>
>> Do you guys see a solution for this stale-mate?
>> Maybe we can get some Ant scripts for building Hibernate 4?
>>
>> Carlo
>>
>> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JBossAS7
>> [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769321
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 for Fedora 17

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
Gradle support in Koji (and therefore Fedora) is well underway : 
http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/gradle/current/SPECS/gradle.spec?view=log

Unfortunately the plan as of now will be to support only a single 
gradle version.  I explained the future difficulties they will have 
because of that decision as opposed to preferring to use gradlew 
(wrapper).  We will have to see what happens long term.

On Wed 28 Mar 2012 10:35:41 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> We are having a good discussion about this on #fedora-java...
>
> On Wed 28 Mar 2012 08:46:42 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>> I guess my first question is why there is not Gradle available. 
>> Strong has done lots of work to make Gradle work in Brew; isn't that 
>> what Fedora uses as well?
>>
>>
>> On 03/28/2012 06:03 AM, Carlo de Wolf wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> We would really like to have Hibernate 4 in Fedora 17 (ultimately for
>>> the installation of AS 7 [1]).
>>>
>>> Problem is: there is no Gradle in Fedora [2], so it is impossible to
>>> build Hibernate 4 with the given Gradle scripts.
>>>
>>> Do you guys see a solution for this stale-mate?
>>> Maybe we can get some Ant scripts for building Hibernate 4?
>>>
>>> Carlo
>>>
>>> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JBossAS7
>>> [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769321
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 for Fedora 17

2012-03-28 Thread Carlo de Wolf
That's the Mageia effort, it has nothing to do with Koji.
We can cherry pick though.

Long term Fedora can't keep up with a restraint on one version only. 
Technically it must become possible to install multiple versions of 
different components. For organizational reasons (maintenance burden and 
such) these should be kept to a minimum, preferably 1.

This would also allow component evolution to take place (for example 
logback 0.9 has less dependencies than 1.0 and could thus be used to 
build up to 1.0 via different dependency chains).

Carlo

On 03/28/2012 06:52 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> Gradle support in Koji (and therefore Fedora) is well underway : 
> http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/gradle/current/SPECS/gradle.spec?view=log
>
> Unfortunately the plan as of now will be to support only a single 
> gradle version.  I explained the future difficulties they will have 
> because of that decision as opposed to preferring to use gradlew 
> (wrapper).  We will have to see what happens long term.
>
> On Wed 28 Mar 2012 10:35:41 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>> We are having a good discussion about this on #fedora-java...
>>
>> On Wed 28 Mar 2012 08:46:42 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>>> I guess my first question is why there is not Gradle available. 
>>> Strong has done lots of work to make Gradle work in Brew; isn't that 
>>> what Fedora uses as well?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/28/2012 06:03 AM, Carlo de Wolf wrote:
 Hi guys,

 We would really like to have Hibernate 4 in Fedora 17 (ultimately for
 the installation of AS 7 [1]).

 Problem is: there is no Gradle in Fedora [2], so it is impossible to
 build Hibernate 4 with the given Gradle scripts.

 Do you guys see a solution for this stale-mate?
 Maybe we can get some Ant scripts for building Hibernate 4?

 Carlo

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 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769321
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[hibernate-dev] Search: tag undone

2012-03-28 Thread Sanne Grinovero
I had to dismantle the Hibernate Search 4.1.0.CR3 tag on git :-(

sorry, I've been quick on it rather than waiting for general approval
to minimize changes of someone actually using it, since I had just
created it.

Cheers,
Sanne
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Meeting

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
Should we do a meeting tomorrow?  I don't think we really have anything 
pressing at the moment.

John personally, I dont think doing it at 8am our time (US Central) is 
too bad considering it is quite late evening already for Strong.  
Strong, what do you think?


On Tue 27 Mar 2012 08:20:43 AM CDT, John Verhaeg wrote:
> I'm good with Thursday, too, but it would be nice if it was at least one hour 
> later.
>
> On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Strong Liu wrote:
>
>> okay, let's move it to thursday if no objections from others,
>>
>> moving this 2.5 hours later means 11:30pm for me
>> -
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Strong Liu
>> http://about.me/stliu/bio
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>>
>>> I got dropped from my portable internet and cannot connect at all at the
>>> moment. We really need to change this meeting time. The current time is
>>> unworkable for me every other week.  Either we need to move this 2.5 hours
>>> later or move it to another day. If another day, Thursday is the only other
>>> day that works for me in the same general timeframe.
>>>
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Meeting

2012-03-28 Thread John Verhaeg
Sure, that's fine.  I was only throwing it out if it wasn't inconvenient for 
anyone else.

On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:

> Should we do a meeting tomorrow?  I don't think we really have anything 
> pressing at the moment.
> 
> John personally, I dont think doing it at 8am our time (US Central) is too 
> bad considering it is quite late evening already for Strong.  Strong, what do 
> you think?
> 
> 
> On Tue 27 Mar 2012 08:20:43 AM CDT, John Verhaeg wrote:
>> I'm good with Thursday, too, but it would be nice if it was at least one 
>> hour later.
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Strong Liu wrote:
>> 
>>> okay, let's move it to thursday if no objections from others,
>>> 
>>> moving this 2.5 hours later means 11:30pm for me
>>> -
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Strong Liu
>>> http://about.me/stliu/bio
>>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>>> 
 I got dropped from my portable internet and cannot connect at all at the
 moment. We really need to change this meeting time. The current time is
 unworkable for me every other week.  Either we need to move this 2.5 hours
 later or move it to another day. If another day, Thursday is the only other
 day that works for me in the same general timeframe.
 
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Meeting

2012-03-28 Thread John Verhaeg
I'm good to skip tomorrow, too.

On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:

> Should we do a meeting tomorrow?  I don't think we really have anything 
> pressing at the moment.
> 
> John personally, I dont think doing it at 8am our time (US Central) is too 
> bad considering it is quite late evening already for Strong.  Strong, what do 
> you think?
> 
> 
> On Tue 27 Mar 2012 08:20:43 AM CDT, John Verhaeg wrote:
>> I'm good with Thursday, too, but it would be nice if it was at least one 
>> hour later.
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Strong Liu wrote:
>> 
>>> okay, let's move it to thursday if no objections from others,
>>> 
>>> moving this 2.5 hours later means 11:30pm for me
>>> -
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Strong Liu
>>> http://about.me/stliu/bio
>>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>>> 
 I got dropped from my portable internet and cannot connect at all at the
 moment. We really need to change this meeting time. The current time is
 unworkable for me every other week.  Either we need to move this 2.5 hours
 later or move it to another day. If another day, Thursday is the only other
 day that works for me in the same general timeframe.
 
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Meeting

2012-03-28 Thread Strong Liu
I'm fine with pushing it 1 hour later and I totally understand the painful of 
getting up too earlier :D

but I remember Gail said she like the meeting time currently, 6 am, so she can 
get some sleep after meeting, so, maybe we need to hear her option , anyway, 
i'm fine with each time

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Strong Liu 
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On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote:

> Should we do a meeting tomorrow?  I don't think we really have anything 
> pressing at the moment.
> 
> John personally, I dont think doing it at 8am our time (US Central) is too 
> bad considering it is quite late evening already for Strong.  Strong, what do 
> you think?
> 
> 
> On Tue 27 Mar 2012 08:20:43 AM CDT, John Verhaeg wrote:
>> I'm good with Thursday, too, but it would be nice if it was at least one 
>> hour later.
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Strong Liu wrote:
>> 
>>> okay, let's move it to thursday if no objections from others,
>>> 
>>> moving this 2.5 hours later means 11:30pm for me
>>> -
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Strong Liu
>>> http://about.me/stliu/bio
>>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>>> 
 I got dropped from my portable internet and cannot connect at all at the
 moment. We really need to change this meeting time. The current time is
 unworkable for me every other week.  Either we need to move this 2.5 hours
 later or move it to another day. If another day, Thursday is the only other
 day that works for me in the same general timeframe.
 
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 http://hibernate.org
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>> 
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Meeting

2012-03-28 Thread Strong Liu
anyone working on the pull requests? I saw there are some opened recently
-
Best Regards,

Strong Liu 
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On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:57 AM, John Verhaeg wrote:

> I'm good to skip tomorrow, too.
> 
> On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> 
>> Should we do a meeting tomorrow?  I don't think we really have anything 
>> pressing at the moment.
>> 
>> John personally, I dont think doing it at 8am our time (US Central) is too 
>> bad considering it is quite late evening already for Strong.  Strong, what 
>> do you think?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue 27 Mar 2012 08:20:43 AM CDT, John Verhaeg wrote:
>>> I'm good with Thursday, too, but it would be nice if it was at least one 
>>> hour later.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Strong Liu wrote:
>>> 
 okay, let's move it to thursday if no objections from others,
 
 moving this 2.5 hours later means 11:30pm for me
 -
 Best Regards,
 
 Strong Liu
 http://about.me/stliu/bio
 
 On Mar 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
 
> I got dropped from my portable internet and cannot connect at all at the
> moment. We really need to change this meeting time. The current time is
> unworkable for me every other week.  Either we need to move this 2.5 hours
> later or move it to another day. If another day, Thursday is the only 
> other
> day that works for me in the same general timeframe.
> 
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