Re: [hibernate-dev] Question in relation to Hibernate4.0 Final

2012-01-20 Thread Demetz, Guenther
Hi Mr. Andersen,

>>Problem is that it seems 4.1 will cause similar disjunct API

The "Redesigned metamodel" goal, which was planned for 4.1,  surely would have 
caused lots of disjunct API's again, 
but now I saw on the hibernate roadmap, that in meantime the "Redesigned 
metamodel" goal has been shifted to Hibernate 5.0.
So im asking, if nevertheless 4.1 will still cause similar disjunct API ?

Exists there a roadmap for Hibernate-Tools?
Can hibernate-tools users hope to can switch to Hibernate4 or will they must 
wait until Hibernate5 ?

Best regards
Günther Demetz

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-Original Message-
From: Max Rydahl Andersen [mailto:max.ander...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:05 AM
To: Strong Liu
Cc: Demetz, Guenther; Hibernate hibernate-dev
Subject: Re: Question in relation to Hibernate4.0 Final

JBoss Tools M5 have an experimental version of the eclipse plugins that works 
against both 3.6 and 4.0.

We'll get that merged into hibernate tools in the new year.

Problem is that it seems 4.1 will cause similar disjunct API so the problem is 
just getting worse to keep up and keep a stable API/access for hibernate tools 
users :(

/max

On Dec 19, 2011, at 14:11, Strong Liu wrote:

> Max?
> 
> -
> Best Regards,
> 
> Strong Liu 
> http://about.me/stliu/bio
> 
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Guenther Demetz wrote:
> 
>> Hi Strong Liu,
>> 
>> do you know, when it is planned a Hibernate-Tools release compatible to 
>> Hibernate-Core 4.0 Final ?
>> 
>> Me and probably many other hibernate users cannot switch to 
>> Hibernate-Core 4.0 as long there no compatible hibernate-tools version 
>> available.
>> 
>> best regards
>> Guenther Demetz
>> 
>> On 09/07/2011 02:10 PM, Strong Liu wrote:
>>> that just because of we don't have enough resource working on 
>>> hibernate-tools :( meanwhile, you can use hibernate-tools with 
>>> hibernate-core 3.6 to generate schemas
>>> 
>>> and thanks for the patches i'm working on it
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Strong Liu 
>>> http://hibernate.org
>>> http://github.com/stliu
>>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Guenther Demetz wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Strong Liu,
 
 as requested I attached a testcase to HHH-6635.
 
 I have another question regarding Hibernate4:
 
 Till now I used hbm2ddl ant-target of hibernate-tools to create new 
 database schemas.
 but I noticed that so far all Hibernate4 prereleases  were provided 
 without a compatible version of hibernate-tools.
 
 -hibernate-tools3.2.4.GA still makes reference to 
 org.hibernate.util.StringHelper  which in hibernate4 has been moved 
 to package org.hibernate.internal.util
 
 -method 
 org.hibernate.tool.hbm2ddl.ManagedProviderConnectionHelper#prepare(
 ) in Hiberante-core 4.0.0CR2  has an  unimplemented body, so no 
 connection is provided for the hbm2ddl tool
 
 So my question is:will hibernate-tools still be supported with hibernate4 
 or has this module become deprecated ?
 
 best regards
 Guenther Demetz
 
 --
 Würth Phoenix S.r.l.
 Günther Demetz
 Product Development (CIS)
 Via Kravogl 4
 I-39100 Bolzano 
 Direct: +39 0471 564 061
 Fax:+39 0471 564 122
 E-Mail: guenther.dem...@wuerth-phoenix.com
 Website:  www.wuerth-phoenix.com
 
 
 
 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Würth Phoenix S.r.l.
>> Günther Demetz
>> Product Development (CIS)
>> Via Kravogl 4
>> I-39100 Bolzano 
>> Direct: +39 0471 564 061
>> Fax:+39 0471 564 122
>> E-Mail: guenther.dem...@wuerth-phoenix.com
>> Website:  www.wuerth-phoenix.com
> 

/max
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[hibernate-dev] Test failures after pull

2012-01-20 Thread Steve Ebersole
Everyone else seeing these after pulling master?


Test 
org.hibernate.test.cascade.circle.MultiPathCircleCascadeCheckNullibilityFalseTest
 
FAILED
Test org.hibernate.test.cascade.circle.MultiPathCircleCascadeTest FAILED
Test 
org.hibernate.test.cascade.circle.MultiPathCircleCascadeCheckNullTrueDelayedInsertTest
 
FAILED
Test 
org.hibernate.test.cascade.circle.MultiPathCircleCascadeCheckNullibilityTrueTest
 
FAILED
Test 
org.hibernate.test.annotations.cascade.circle.identity.CascadeCircleIdentityIdTest
 
FAILED
Test 
org.hibernate.test.annotations.cascade.circle.sequence.CascadeCircleSequenceIdTest
 
FAILED


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Re: [hibernate-dev] Question in relation to Hibernate4.0 Final

2012-01-20 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
we got a hibernate4 compatible fork in hibernate tools eclipse plugin now. 
anyone want to contribute
and help make the now three releases that is needed? (3.2-3.5, 3.6 and 4.0?)

output of hibernate tools work with all versions, its only if you do queries or 
need something specific
from hibernate 3.6 or 4.0 metamodel you need to run with the exact same version.

/max

On Jan 20, 2012, at 09:30, Demetz, Guenther wrote:

> Hi Mr. Andersen,
> 
>>> Problem is that it seems 4.1 will cause similar disjunct API
> 
> The "Redesigned metamodel" goal, which was planned for 4.1,  surely would 
> have caused lots of disjunct API's again, 
> but now I saw on the hibernate roadmap, that in meantime the "Redesigned 
> metamodel" goal has been shifted to Hibernate 5.0.
> So im asking, if nevertheless 4.1 will still cause similar disjunct API ?
> 
> Exists there a roadmap for Hibernate-Tools?
> Can hibernate-tools users hope to can switch to Hibernate4 or will they must 
> wait until Hibernate5 ?
> 
> Best regards
> Günther Demetz
> 
> Würth Phoenix S.r.l.
> Günther Demetz
> Product Development (CIS)
> Via Kravogl 4
> I-39100 Bolzano 
> Direct: +39 0471 564 061
> Fax:+39 0471 564 122
> E-Mail: guenther.dem...@wuerth-phoenix.com
> Website:  www.wuerth-phoenix.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Max Rydahl Andersen [mailto:max.ander...@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:05 AM
> To: Strong Liu
> Cc: Demetz, Guenther; Hibernate hibernate-dev
> Subject: Re: Question in relation to Hibernate4.0 Final
> 
> JBoss Tools M5 have an experimental version of the eclipse plugins that works 
> against both 3.6 and 4.0.
> 
> We'll get that merged into hibernate tools in the new year.
> 
> Problem is that it seems 4.1 will cause similar disjunct API so the problem 
> is just getting worse to keep up and keep a stable API/access for hibernate 
> tools users :(
> 
> /max
> 
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 14:11, Strong Liu wrote:
> 
>> Max?
>> 
>> -
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Strong Liu 
>> http://about.me/stliu/bio
>> 
>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Guenther Demetz wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Strong Liu,
>>> 
>>> do you know, when it is planned a Hibernate-Tools release compatible to 
>>> Hibernate-Core 4.0 Final ?
>>> 
>>> Me and probably many other hibernate users cannot switch to 
>>> Hibernate-Core 4.0 as long there no compatible hibernate-tools version 
>>> available.
>>> 
>>> best regards
>>> Guenther Demetz
>>> 
>>> On 09/07/2011 02:10 PM, Strong Liu wrote:
 that just because of we don't have enough resource working on 
 hibernate-tools :( meanwhile, you can use hibernate-tools with 
 hibernate-core 3.6 to generate schemas
 
 and thanks for the patches i'm working on it
 
 ---
 Strong Liu 
 http://hibernate.org
 http://github.com/stliu
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Guenther Demetz wrote:
 
> Hi Strong Liu,
> 
> as requested I attached a testcase to HHH-6635.
> 
> I have another question regarding Hibernate4:
> 
> Till now I used hbm2ddl ant-target of hibernate-tools to create new 
> database schemas.
> but I noticed that so far all Hibernate4 prereleases  were provided 
> without a compatible version of hibernate-tools.
> 
> -hibernate-tools3.2.4.GA still makes reference to 
> org.hibernate.util.StringHelper  which in hibernate4 has been moved 
> to package org.hibernate.internal.util
> 
> -method 
> org.hibernate.tool.hbm2ddl.ManagedProviderConnectionHelper#prepare(
> ) in Hiberante-core 4.0.0CR2  has an  unimplemented body, so no 
> connection is provided for the hbm2ddl tool
> 
> So my question is:will hibernate-tools still be supported with hibernate4 
> or has this module become deprecated ?
> 
> best regards
> Guenther Demetz
> 
> --
> Würth Phoenix S.r.l.
> Günther Demetz
> Product Development (CIS)
> Via Kravogl 4
> I-39100 Bolzano 
> Direct: +39 0471 564 061
> Fax:+39 0471 564 122
> E-Mail: guenther.dem...@wuerth-phoenix.com
> Website:  www.wuerth-phoenix.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Würth Phoenix S.r.l.
>>> Günther Demetz
>>> Product Development (CIS)
>>> Via Kravogl 4
>>> I-39100 Bolzano 
>>> Direct: +39 0471 564 061
>>> Fax:+39 0471 564 122
>>> E-Mail: guenther.dem...@wuerth-phoenix.com
>>> Website:  www.wuerth-phoenix.com
>> 
> 
> /max
> http://about.me/maxandersen
> 
> 
> 

/max
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Test failures after pull

2012-01-20 Thread Steve Ebersole
nm, clean and then test worked

On 01/20/2012 11:30 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> Everyone else seeing these after pulling master?
>
>
> Test
> org.hibernate.test.cascade.circle.MultiPathCircleCascadeCheckNullibilityFalseTest
> FAILED
> Test org.hibernate.test.cascade.circle.MultiPathCircleCascadeTest FAILED
> Test
> org.hibernate.test.cascade.circle.MultiPathCircleCascadeCheckNullTrueDelayedInsertTest
> FAILED
> Test
> org.hibernate.test.cascade.circle.MultiPathCircleCascadeCheckNullibilityTrueTest
> FAILED
> Test
> org.hibernate.test.annotations.cascade.circle.identity.CascadeCircleIdentityIdTest
> FAILED
> Test
> org.hibernate.test.annotations.cascade.circle.sequence.CascadeCircleSequenceIdTest
> FAILED
>
>

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[hibernate-dev] natural-id to primary key cache

2012-01-20 Thread Steve Ebersole
Historically natural-id look ups were accomplished by leveraging 
Criteria queries.  Caching was handled through the second level query 
cache.

One of the new things in 4.1 is the dedicated natural-id loading API. 
So the caching will be quite different here.  I am a little leery about 
making a breaking changes in 4.1 after all the changes in 4.0 if we can 
avoid it.  If we can't we can't.  One thought for this was to use a 
SessionFactory scoped "cache" for this in 4.1 and then add a new second 
level cache Region construct for this in 5.0.  The *only* benefit is to 
keep the second level cache SPI the same between 4.0 and 4.1.  Is that 
worth it?  Any thoughts?


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