Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate.org

2010-02-23 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
I think content wise the current sub project approach will work. Looking
at search.hibernate.org and validator.hibernate.org one can see that there  
is
not so much content for this content pages. The bulk of information is  
really in
the wiki which is a different thing (Clearspace). Btw, what's going to  
happen
with the domains search.hibernate.org and validator.hibernate.org? Will  
they forward
to the corresponding sub project page on JBoss.org?

Will EM and Annotations still be listed as sub projects though. I guess  
 from a current
point of view we could combine them into Core. Not sure whether we have to  
consider
long time users though who might be looking for these projects.

We also have to consider the new Static Metamodel Generator. Currently it  
does not have its
own project page. Will we just add it to Core or will it be its own  
standalone
sub project?
Maybe we should even consider moving the actual source code into a maven  
module. If I remember
right the main issue stopping us from doing so were build problems, right?

Shards I know nothing about. I am not even sure who does. Seems the best  
we can do there
is to move the current content from shards.hibernate.org.

--Hardy



On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:53:37 -0300, Steve Ebersole   
wrote:

> After months of sitting in limbo it looks like there may finally be
> movement on getting hibernate.org content moved over to the
> magnolia/clearspace setup.
>
> We need to figure out what all still needs to be done in terms of
> content.  For core (+ annotations/em) I have a good idea of the work
> still to do.  But in terms of search, validator, shards and tools
> (nhibernate?) I have no idea.
>
> This will not happen until next week at the earliest as I have a meet up
> scheduled with the JBoss design team here in Austin to go over LnF,
> navigation, etc later this week.
>
> Like one specific thing I know we have to iron out is navigation and
> side bar content for the various subprojects.  Will the various
> subprojects "be under" hibernate?  The infrastructure is really built so
> that all projects are at the same level.  I think it comes down to how
> much content (pages) we see for each sub project and how y'all want the
> nav and menus to work.  If a unified set of nav and menus along with a
> minimal set of content pages is acceptable then its probably doable to
> just create sub content pages under the main set of hibernate pages.  If
> y'all want something more elaborate or separate nav/menus than we are
> going to have to split these up I think (I'll verify to make sure this
> is still the case).
>

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Re: [hibernate-dev] 3.5.0-CR-2 set up in JIRA

2010-02-23 Thread Galder Zamarreno
Steve,

I'm done with the Infinispan 2LC fix for this. I believe Brian might be
already but you might wanna double check with him.

Cheers,

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:14:33 +0100, Brian Stansberry
 wrote:

> Galder found a flaw in the fix for
> http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3817 that
> affects second level caching with both JBoss Cache and Infinispan. I'm
> working on a fix that I plan to finish by the 23rd at latest (goal is
> tomorrow.)
>
> On 02/16/2010 03:56 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>> Just wanted to point out to everyone that 3.5.0-CR-2 has been set up in
>> JIRA (
>> http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH/fixforversion/11011
>> ) and tentatively scheduled for Feb 24 2010.  I say tentatively because
>> I am not sure I will wait that long; lets see how things go.
>>
>> In the meantime, I moved all unresolved issues not in progress to 3.5.x.
>>Please take the time asap to mark any issues you want in 3.5.0-CR-2.
>> I completely expect this to be the last CR before 3.5.0
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>


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Infinispan, JBoss Cache

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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate.org

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Ebersole
On 02/23/2010 08:43 AM, Hardy Ferentschik wrote:
> I think content wise the current sub project approach will work. Looking
> at search.hibernate.org and validator.hibernate.org one can see that
> there is
> not so much content for this content pages. The bulk of information is
> really in
> the wiki which is a different thing (Clearspace). Btw, what's going to
> happen
> with the domains search.hibernate.org and validator.hibernate.org? Will
> they forward
> to the corresponding sub project page on JBoss.org?
Well the "sub domains" are apprently not really sub domains at all. 
They are simple redirects.  So for example, http://core.hibernate.org 
simply directs the browser to https://www.hibernate.org/344.html ; 
https://annotations.hibernate.org/ directs to 
https://www.hibernate.org/397.html ; etc.  The point though is that 
these "sub domains" really just identify single information pages, one 
per "sub domain".  And yes redirects from the old urls to the new 
targets will all be handled.

This was the gist of my question below.  Is this what we want to keep? 
For the sub-projects, is a single sub-page enough?  Again this is no 
different than what we have today.

Here is an example of incorporating sub-projects in this infrastructure:
http://jboss.org/gatein
http://jboss.org/gatein/portletcontainer.html

The fact that the banner goes away between the 2 is coincidental.  We 
can set it up either way.  And we can have each sub-project define its 
own nav items (overview/pages, download, community, etc).  The real 
question becomes when or whether we want these sub-projects accessible 
from the main site navigation.

> Will EM and Annotations still be listed as sub projects though. I guess
> from a current
> point of view we could combine them into Core. Not sure whether we have
> to consider
> long time users though who might be looking for these projects.
I planned on not having them as separate sub-projects.  The main page 
has an announcement about them (and envers) being combined into the main 
project.

> We also have to consider the new Static Metamodel Generator. Currently
> it does not have its
> own project page. Will we just add it to Core or will it be its own
> standalone
> sub project?
> Maybe we should even consider moving the actual source code into a maven
> module. If I remember
> right the main issue stopping us from doing so were build problems, right?
No idea.

> Shards I know nothing about. I am not even sure who does. Seems the best
> we can do there
> is to move the current content from shards.hibernate.org.
Yep, which will be the default for anything I don't hear about.


> --Hardy
>
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:53:37 -0300, Steve Ebersole 
> wrote:
>
>> After months of sitting in limbo it looks like there may finally be
>> movement on getting hibernate.org content moved over to the
>> magnolia/clearspace setup.
>>
>> We need to figure out what all still needs to be done in terms of
>> content. For core (+ annotations/em) I have a good idea of the work
>> still to do. But in terms of search, validator, shards and tools
>> (nhibernate?) I have no idea.
>>
>> This will not happen until next week at the earliest as I have a meet up
>> scheduled with the JBoss design team here in Austin to go over LnF,
>> navigation, etc later this week.
>>
>> Like one specific thing I know we have to iron out is navigation and
>> side bar content for the various subprojects. Will the various
>> subprojects "be under" hibernate? The infrastructure is really built so
>> that all projects are at the same level. I think it comes down to how
>> much content (pages) we see for each sub project and how y'all want the
>> nav and menus to work. If a unified set of nav and menus along with a
>> minimal set of content pages is acceptable then its probably doable to
>> just create sub content pages under the main set of hibernate pages. If
>> y'all want something more elaborate or separate nav/menus than we are
>> going to have to split these up I think (I'll verify to make sure this
>> is still the case).
>>
>

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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate.org

2010-02-23 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:07:55 -0300, Steve Ebersole   
wrote:

>> We also have to consider the new Static Metamodel Generator. Currently
>> it does not have its
>> own project page. Will we just add it to Core or will it be its own
>> standalone
>> sub project?
>> Maybe we should even consider moving the actual source code into a maven
>> module. If I remember
>> right the main issue stopping us from doing so were build problems,  
>> right?
> No idea.

I guess there is also the issue of license. Currently the annotation  
processor
uses the Apache License (version 2). Partly out of historic reasons, since  
in
the beginnings it was a prototype for Sun and partly out of the idea that  
using
APL would make it easier for IDE/Tools to make use of it. So in order to  
integrate
it into Core we would have to change that.

Somehow having a separate project seems wrong given the very specific  
problem
the tool solves. Thoughts?

--Hardy
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