Re: [Hampshire] SMPT Authentification Methods for Hotmail

2024-10-01 Thread Adam Piggott via Hampshire

On 01/10/2024 12:30, Roger Munford via Hampshire wrote:

I have been long retired but an old programme has come back to bite me.

Years ago I wrote a programme in Visual Foxpro using a Chilkat Active X mail 
component so that the user can send invoices etc by email from the programme.

However it has stopped working and it appears that the authentification method used 
"LOGIN" is no longer supported.


If the leap to oauth2, as others have mentioned, is a step too far it might be 
worth setting them up with a simple domain name and email hosting package (I 
can recommend Mythic Beasts for this) which will then allow you to stay with 
SMTP via LOGIN. They/you also gain the benefit of having real tech support if 
they ever have problems with their email service.

https://www.mythic-beasts.com/hosting
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Re: [Hampshire] SMPT Authentification Methods for Hotmail

2024-10-01 Thread James Dutton via Hampshire
On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 12:31, Roger Munford via Hampshire
 wrote:
>
> However it has stopped working and it appears that the authentification
> method used "LOGIN" is no longer supported.
>
> It is a nice small family company and I would like to help.
>
> I am resigned to having to getting the updated mail component but I am
> having hdifficulties finding out what mathod would keep Hotmail happy
> and what extra will have to be done to make the whole process work. Up
> to now they only needed a password and username.
>

Hi,

I have had to do something similar recently. I use thunderbird to
access a hotmail account via POP3.
Previously it used username/password, but I have had to switch
thunderbird to using "oauth2"
While thunderbird already supports it, it is quite a lot of work to implement.
oauth uses a web page to do the authentication.
I.e. You try to login, it redirects you to a web page to enter your
username/password and then it remembers that for a while and you don't
need to access the web page every time.
The reason it is quite a lot of work to implement, is because you now
need to implement a mini web browser, so it can display the redirected
web page and take the username/pass input.
thunderbird has implemented the web page, that pops up the first time
you restart thunderbird after configuring it for oauth2.

Kind Regards

James

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Re: [Hampshire] SMPT Authentification Methods for Hotmail

2024-10-01 Thread Brad Rogers via Hampshire
On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 12:30:30 +0100
Roger Munford via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Roger,

>having hdifficulties finding out what mathod would keep Hotmail happy 
>and what extra will have to be done to make the whole process work. Up 

1.  Hotmail no longer exists, per se - it's Outlook
2.  You're almost certainly going to have to delve into use of the Oauth2
protocol as username/password is no longer sufficient.

The following will provide some context and may prove useful;
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d

Apologies for the long link.  But, well, you know;  microsoft.

Finally:  Good luck.

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[Hampshire] SMPT Authentification Methods for Hotmail

2024-10-01 Thread Roger Munford via Hampshire

I have been long retired but an old programme has come back to bite me.

Years ago I wrote a programme in Visual Foxpro using a Chilkat Active X 
mail component so that the user can send invoices etc by email from the 
programme.


However it has stopped working and it appears that the authentification 
method used "LOGIN" is no longer supported.


It is a nice small family company and I would like to help.

I am resigned to having to getting the updated mail component but I am 
having hdifficulties finding out what mathod would keep Hotmail happy 
and what extra will have to be done to make the whole process work. Up 
to now they only needed a password and username.


Thanks

Roger


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