A Forum for Guix Users
Hey Guix, I think we should seriously consider having a user forum similar to Debian's User Forum or Nixos' Discourse. As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very easy to navigate compared to forum threads. Seeing the situation with RHEL, I think now's the perfect time for us to acquire new HPC/stability-oriented users in particular, and I believe that most of them would not be very IRC/mailing list-savvy either. It would also immensely help to have community discussions and other forms of information concentrated in one location instead of split over the IRC and the mailing list. If we are to go ahead with making a forum, I think I'm speaking for a lot of people here when I say that I don't want a forum that cannot be used without Javascript or cannot be built/deployed with Guix. Given these constraints, Discourse is not a good option as it does not build on Guix. phpBB and SMF are two good options we could look into, although they look a little dated compared to discourse. Flarum might also be worth looking into, but I am not sure if it will build properly on Guix. Software suggestions as well as thoughts on this idea would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Sarthak.
Re: A Forum for Guix Users
Hi Sarthak, > As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their > problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very > easy to navigate compared to forum threads. I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documentation relating to the mailing lists and IRC logs, rather than fragmenting the places that someone should look for answers. Maybe a new / additional frontend that is more approachable for new users would also be good. I have never found myself participating in distro-specific forums; I have always used them as read-only sources of information. Yet here I am participating in the Guix mailing lists :). I bet I am not alone in this experience. Also FWIW, Guix was basically my introduction to participating in mailing lists. So I wouldn't say I am biased in my old ways of doing things - I just genuinely think it's a good way to handle communication. Robby
Re: A Forum for Guix Users
Robby Zambito writes: > Hi Sarthak, > >> As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their >> problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very >> easy to navigate compared to forum threads. > > I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documentation > relating to the mailing lists and IRC logs, rather than fragmenting the > places that someone should look for answers. Maybe a new / additional > frontend that is more approachable for new users would also be good. Sourcehut has full-time employees working on making these accessible, so it really boggles my mind why we aren't using that instead of Savannah and Debbugs. We could also bridge IRC to Matrix (even though the company behind it has some people who... let's say like the taste of leather too much). Pine64 has a great chat setup actually, their channels are bridged to a whole bunch of services. Not saying we must also bridge with Discord, but at least the libre options should be considered. > I have never found myself participating in distro-specific forums; I > have always used them as read-only sources of information. Yet here I am > participating in the Guix mailing lists :). I bet I am not alone in this > experience. > > Also FWIW, Guix was basically my introduction to participating in > mailing lists. So I wouldn't say I am biased in my old ways of doing > things - I just genuinely think it's a good way to handle communication. > > Robby Guix is also the first project I contributed to in a major way over mailing lists and my experience is that if you don't keep up to date with the list, the lackluster search and linking will be a major pain in the buttocks. It is usable for experts, but is absolutely not beginner-friendly. But even experts would benefit from a better workflow.
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Re: A Forum for Guix Users
On 2023-07-13 21:52, Sarthak Shah wrote: > Hey Guix, > I think we should seriously consider having a user forum similar to > Debian's User Forum or Nixos' Discourse. > > As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their > problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very easy to > navigate compared to forum threads. Seeing the situation with RHEL, I think > now's the perfect time for us to acquire new HPC/stability-oriented users > in particular, and I believe that most of them would not be very > IRC/mailing list-savvy either. > It would also immensely help to have community discussions and other forms > of information concentrated in one location instead of split over the IRC > and the mailing list. > > If we are to go ahead with making a forum, I think I'm speaking for a lot > of people here when I say that I don't want a forum that cannot be used > without Javascript or cannot be built/deployed with Guix. Given these > constraints, Discourse is not a good option as it does not build on Guix. > phpBB and SMF are two good options we could look into, although they look a > little dated compared to discourse. Flarum might also be worth looking > into, but I am not sure if it will build properly on Guix. > > Software suggestions as well as thoughts on this idea would be greatly > appreciated! > > Regards, > Sarthak. A great idea. I would use a forum. I would say just go ahead and set up a forum yourself, and I'll bring some people along that I know from the fediverse. ~vidak
