Windows (WinPT etc.)

2005-07-11 Thread Christopher C. Stacy
On winpt.sourceforge.net, I find a "Windows Privacy Tools" 
aka "WinPT" project; this seems to be the one that Timo maintains.
(That is, it seems to be the "official" WinPT.)
The latest released version is 0.9.11.
There is also 1.0rc2 (2nd release candidate).

On www.gnupg.org, I find what seems to be the official GPG home page.
This includes a link to WinPT, but it points to a third place.

The third place is www.equipmente.de, which is a German web site.
The suggested download is "gnupt-int.exe".
This seems to be the same file as 
"gnupt-2.6.2.1_gpg1.4.1-wpt0.9.92-gpgrelay0.959-int.exe"
(although I'm not sure where I found the file under that name).
As best as I can tell, this "gnupt" is a conglomerate package
containing GPG 1.4.1, WinPT 0.9.92, and GPGRelay 0.959.

At some point, I installed WinPT (from SourceForge), 
and this gave me a Windows Explorer context menu.  
It mostly worked, but there are some bugs that will 
crash Windows Explorer.  These bugs have been reported 
(not very completely) by other people on SourceForge.

However, when I install GnuPT instead,
I do not get any Explorer menu items.
How come the GnuPT version doesn't hack the Explorer menu?
Is that a bug?  Is there something else I was supposed 
to download to add that functionality?

Hmmm, on the EQUIPMENTE site, I found something called "GPGee"
which provides the Windows Explorer functionality; it seems to work.

Well, that worked.  So maybe I'm done.
But I'm still slightly confused about what I've downloaded.

But what's going on here?  How does WinPT 0.9.11 relate to 0.9.92
and to 1.0rc2?  Why doesn't gnupg.org point to winpt.sourceforge.net?
Am I looking at competing forks of WinPT?  Politics?
On the SourceForge page, Fabian Rodriguez says that was 
managing the WinPT project, but that he needs a replacement.
And what's EQUIPMENTE?  (It's all in German, so I have no idea
what I'm looking at there.  I was very brave in downloading!)
How are all these projects related to each other?

Chris


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Re: Windows (WinPT etc.)

2005-07-11 Thread Alphax
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Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
> On winpt.sourceforge.net, I find a "Windows Privacy Tools" 
> aka "WinPT" project; this seems to be the one that Timo maintains.
> (That is, it seems to be the "official" WinPT.)
> The latest released version is 0.9.11.
> There is also 1.0rc2 (2nd release candidate).
> 

I've got 0.9.92.0 (I don't remember where from). I was under the
impression that the sourceforge version was no longer being maintained.

> On www.gnupg.org, I find what seems to be the official GPG home page.
> This includes a link to WinPT, but it points to a third place.
> 
> The third place is www.equipmente.de, which is a German web site.
> The suggested download is "gnupt-int.exe".
> This seems to be the same file as 
> "gnupt-2.6.2.1_gpg1.4.1-wpt0.9.92-gpgrelay0.959-int.exe"
> (although I'm not sure where I found the file under that name).
> As best as I can tell, this "gnupt" is a conglomerate package
> containing GPG 1.4.1, WinPT 0.9.92, and GPGRelay 0.959.
> 

I already had GPG, and wasn't interested in GPGRelay. I wondered where I
got that from :)

> At some point, I installed WinPT (from SourceForge), 
> and this gave me a Windows Explorer context menu.  
> It mostly worked, but there are some bugs that will 
> crash Windows Explorer.  These bugs have been reported 
> (not very completely) by other people on SourceForge.
> 

Obviously I didn't get the entire package then...

> However, when I install GnuPT instead,
> I do not get any Explorer menu items.
> How come the GnuPT version doesn't hack the Explorer menu?
> Is that a bug?  Is there something else I was supposed 
> to download to add that functionality?
> 

GnuPT? Huh? Haven't heard of that one...

> Hmmm, on the EQUIPMENTE site, I found something called "GPGee"
> which provides the Windows Explorer functionality; it seems to work.
> 
> Well, that worked.  So maybe I'm done.
> But I'm still slightly confused about what I've downloaded.
> 
> But what's going on here?  How does WinPT 0.9.11 relate to 0.9.92
> and to 1.0rc2?  Why doesn't gnupg.org point to winpt.sourceforge.net?
> Am I looking at competing forks of WinPT?  Politics?
> On the SourceForge page, Fabian Rodriguez says that was 
> managing the WinPT project, but that he needs a replacement.
> And what's EQUIPMENTE?  (It's all in German, so I have no idea
> what I'm looking at there.  I was very brave in downloading!)
> How are all these projects related to each other?
> 

I also was confused about this. However, WinPT is extraordinarily slow
for me to use - it caches the entire keyring when it loads/anything
changes, and with 700 keys it becomes unusable (actually, I gave up when
my keyring hit 400).

I would suggest checking out GPGShell from
http://www.jumaros.de/rsoft/index.html - it appears to handle things in
a reasonable manner, and has reasonable clipboard support.

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Re: Windows (WinPT etc.)

2005-07-11 Thread Timo Schulz
Alphax wrote:

> I've got 0.9.92.0 (I don't remember where from). I was under the
> impression that the sourceforge version was no longer being maintained.

That's right. The sf.net site of WinPT is currently not actively
maintained. To download WinPT, please use http://www.winpt.org.


> > How come the GnuPT version doesn't hack the Explorer menu?
> > Is that a bug?  Is there something else I was supposed 
> > to download to add that functionality?
> > 
> 
> GnuPT? Huh? Haven't heard of that one...

IMHO GnuPT is just the name of the installer which combines all
the GPG relevant applications.


> I also was confused about this. However, WinPT is extraordinarily slow
> for me to use - it caches the entire keyring when it loads/anything
> changes, and with 700 keys it becomes unusable (actually, I gave up when

I actually changed the caching scheme in the current CVs version. The
next version (0.9.93) will be much faster with larger keyrings.
.

Timo



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