Re: [GNC] Searching mailing lists

[flywire]

Forgotten?? You replied to my request to replace Nabble with
https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.html so
there was a useful search facility but you didn't actually do it.

Regards

On 2025-03-03 05:32, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Hi,
> Sorry for not paying closer attention to this.  I actually had forgotten
> about that page.
> I've removed all references to nabble from the /search/index.html page.
> I agree we probably need a better search mechanism, but I don't know what
> it is.
>
> -derek

> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, flywire wrote:
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user is useless and
should be replaced with
https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.html before
updating the wiki.
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Re: [GNC] Searching mailing lists

[Derek Atkins]

I've updated the index.html with links to mail-archive for gnucash-user
and gnucash-devel.

-derek

On Tue, March 4, 2025 9:54 am, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Flywire,
>
> On Tue, March 4, 2025 6:41 am, flywire wrote:
>> Forgotten?? You replied to my request to replace Nabble with
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.html so
>> there was a useful search facility but you didn't actually do it.
>
> I did no such thing!  I'm looking in the archives right now, and the only
> response I made to this thread was on Feb 14 (and then again yesterday).
> So, yes, I replied to this thread back in February, but only to talk about
> the upgrade from Mailman2 -> Mailman3 and why it's not going to happen any
> time soon.
>
> I did not reply to /you/ (I replied to Brad Morrison) nor did I reply
> about updating /search/index.html for Nabble -> mail-archive.
>
> So yes, I had forgotten about the /search/index.html file's existence on
> the server.  The last time that file was edited was November 3, 2017.  So,
> yeah, after 7 1/2 years I've forgotten about it.
>
> I edited the file yesterday to remove Nabble; I'll go look at it again to
> see how I could add in mail-archive.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -derek
>
>> Regards
>>
>> On 2025-03-03 05:32, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Sorry for not paying closer attention to this.  I actually had
>>> forgotten
>>> about that page.
>>> I've removed all references to nabble from the /search/index.html page.
>>> I agree we probably need a better search mechanism, but I don't know
>>> what
>>> it is.
>>>
>>> -derek
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, flywire wrote:
 https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user is useless and
>> should be replaced with
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.html
>> before
>> updating the wiki.
>>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Searching mailing lists

[Derek Atkins]

Flywire,

On Tue, March 4, 2025 6:41 am, flywire wrote:
> Forgotten?? You replied to my request to replace Nabble with
> https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.html so
> there was a useful search facility but you didn't actually do it.

I did no such thing!  I'm looking in the archives right now, and the only
response I made to this thread was on Feb 14 (and then again yesterday). 
So, yes, I replied to this thread back in February, but only to talk about
the upgrade from Mailman2 -> Mailman3 and why it's not going to happen any
time soon.

I did not reply to /you/ (I replied to Brad Morrison) nor did I reply
about updating /search/index.html for Nabble -> mail-archive.

So yes, I had forgotten about the /search/index.html file's existence on
the server.  The last time that file was edited was November 3, 2017.  So,
yeah, after 7 1/2 years I've forgotten about it.

I edited the file yesterday to remove Nabble; I'll go look at it again to
see how I could add in mail-archive.

Thanks,

-derek

> Regards
>
> On 2025-03-03 05:32, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Sorry for not paying closer attention to this.  I actually had forgotten
>> about that page.
>> I've removed all references to nabble from the /search/index.html page.
>> I agree we probably need a better search mechanism, but I don't know
>> what
>> it is.
>>
>> -derek
>
>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, flywire wrote:
>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user is useless and
> should be replaced with
> https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.html before
> updating the wiki.
>


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Re: [GNC] Searching mailing lists

[flywire]

Re: https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user
* Mail-Archive (GnuCash-User) - link is malformed
* Mail-Archive (GnuCash-Devel) - works well

Regards

On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 at 02:07, Derek Atkins  wrote:

> I've updated the index.html with links to mail-archive for gnucash-user
> and gnucash-devel.
>
> -derek
>
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Re: [GNC] Searching mailing lists

[Derek Atkins]

What do you mean?  Both links work for me.

-derek

On Tue, March 4, 2025 3:55 pm, flywire wrote:
> Re: https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user
> * Mail-Archive (GnuCash-User) - link is malformed
> * Mail-Archive (GnuCash-Devel) - works well
>
> Regards
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 at 02:07, Derek Atkins  wrote:
>
>> I've updated the index.html with links to mail-archive for gnucash-user
>> and gnucash-devel.
>>
>> -derek
>>
>


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Re: [GNC] Problems getting prices from Yahoo as JSON

[Adrian Holbrook]

Thanks Bruce and Kalpesh for your help. Sorry to hear of Bruce's health issues 
and I wish you a speedy recovery.

I think that the issue with the Perl module to download Finance::Quote is that 
it downloads the latest released version while I was trying to download the 
development issue. In the end I just copied the relevant YahooJson.pm module 
and replaced the previous module. Unfortunately my programming experience was 
limited to Fortran, Basic and Logo (!) and I am a bit rusty!

On the issue of the GBp to GBP conversion Things are now working but there is 
still a minor issue. When I checked this morning NXR was returning the correct 
price (I do not understand what has changed) but with NWG I realised that I was 
retrieving the price from Alphavantage not Yahoo and that was showing 480.5. 
When I changed the source to Yahoo as JSON it worked correctly and shows 4.803.

Although my issues are now resolved I am still a bit puzzled with the results I 
got!

Thanks for your help and I am enjoying finding out a bit more about the inner 
workings of Perl but I fear it is too late for me to become even 
semi-proficient!

Adrian

From: Kalpesh Patel 
Sent: 03 March 2025 22:57
To: 'Bruce Schuck' ; 'GnuCash User' 

Cc: 'Adrian Holbrook' 
Subject: RE: [GNC] Problems getting prices from Yahoo as JSON

Hi Bruce:

Hopefully you are on your way to mending from the health issue.

Anyways, your suggestions are duly noted and will keep them in mind.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Schuck 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2025 4:40 PM
To: GnuCash User 
Cc: Kalpesh Patel ; Adrian Holbrook 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Problems getting prices from Yahoo as JSON

Sorry for late response, I've been battling some health issues the last
month+.

On Mar 1, 2025 at 09:06:36 EST, Kalpesh Patel wrote:

 > If you have Unix/Linux then you can run following to get the official  > 
 > interim release (literally cut and paste each line when your prompt  > comes 
 > back after executing each one) as mentioned by another user  > on this 
 > distro:


 cd ~
 wget

https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpan.org%2Fauthors%2Fid%2FB%2FBP%2FBPSCHUCK%2FFinance-Quote-1.64_03.tar.gz&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca140570d4e1748c1cf3608dd5aa6d4d6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638766394751254965%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2FR7upIWQ8%2Bg3WCiWkngaAKgVj%2FXor2NPKl6K43kNlp4%3D&reserved=0
 tar -xvf ./Finance-Quote-1.64_03.tar.gz
 cd Finance-Quote-1.64_03/
 perl Makefile.PL
 make
 sudo make install

Kalpesh,

While this will work for this case (no extra dependencies added), please 
refrain from suggesting this method of installing Finance::Quote.
Especially to those with limited experience with Perl.

There is no reason that the cpan or cpanm utilities can not be used on Windows 
with Strawberry Perl, Mac OSX, and especially Linux/Unix/BSD.
For those who for some reason are having difficulties with cpan/cpanm, it would 
be much more beneficial in the long run to troubleshoot why the standard Perl 
module install tool is not working.

WRT the GBP/GBp issue, I would appreciate that the issue is duplicated and 
confirmed BEFORE suggesting a user make manual edits! In the case of NWG.L, 
Finance::Quote this morning returned Last:4.803 GBP (pounds). A lookup at 
https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.londonstockexchange.com%2Fstock%2FNWG%2Fnatwest-group-plc%2Fcompany-page&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca140570d4e1748c1cf3608dd5aa6d4d6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638766394751271330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=loJYGG0pad%2FMDVUB6lRNwCnqxOVu2fMhB1XfrZFPGWE%3D&reserved=0
returned 480.30 GBX (pence). And finance.yahoo.com returned 480.30 GBp (pence). 
Perhaps asking Adrian what values he was seeing, and why he determined they 
were incorrect?

Thank you.

Bruce S.

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Re: [GNC] Problems getting prices from Yahoo as JSON

[Bruce Schuck]

On 3/4/25 12:01 AM, Adrian Holbrook wrote:


I think that the issue with the Perl module to download
Finance::Quote is that it downloads the latest released version
while I was trying to download the development issue.


Exactly what command were you using.

"cpan BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.64_03.tar.gz" would have installed the
interim version.



In the end I just copied the relevant YahooJson.pm module and
replaced the previous module. Unfortunately my programming
experience was limited to Fortran, Basic and Logo (!) and I am a bit
rusty!


I was a Fortran IV/77 developer a lifetime ago. Learned Basic as part of
an advanced Math curriculum in 8th grade (1974-1975).


On the issue of the GBp to GBP conversion Things are now working
but there is still a minor issue. When I checked this morning NXR
was returning the correct price (I do not understand what has
changed) but with NWG I realised that I was retrieving the price
from Alphavantage not Yahoo and that was showing 480.5. When I
changed the source to Yahoo as JSON it worked correctly and shows
4.803.


It's a known issue with AlphaVantage, noted in the Caveat section of the 
Finance::Quote::AlphaVantage(3) man page. The AV API does not return the 
currency, so all ".L" symbols are assumed to be GBP. If the user knows a 
security is traded in GPp/GBX, and using AlphaVantage, add a ".X" to the 
symbol. So NWG.L would be NWG.L.X.


Bruce S.
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Re: [GNC] Searching mailing lists

[Tommy Trussell]

From here, https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user

First Mail-Archive link
https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.htmlgnucash-u...@gnucash.org/maillist.html

gives a 404 error

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 3:03 PM Derek Atkins  wrote:

> What do you mean?  Both links work for me.
>
> -derek
>
> On Tue, March 4, 2025 3:55 pm, flywire wrote:
> > Re: https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user
> > * Mail-Archive (GnuCash-User) - link is malformed
> > * Mail-Archive (GnuCash-Devel) - works well
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 at 02:07, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> >
> >> I've updated the index.html with links to mail-archive for gnucash-user
> >> and gnucash-devel.
> >>
> >> -derek
> >>
> >
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Searching mailing lists

[Derek Atkins]

I see...  I was testing by going to search/ directly.  Not through the idx
link.
Fixed.
-d

On Tue, March 4, 2025 4:07 pm, Tommy Trussell wrote:
> From here, https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user
>
> First Mail-Archive link
> https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.htmlgnucash-u...@gnucash.org/maillist.html
>
> gives a 404 error
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 3:03 PM Derek Atkins  wrote:
>
>> What do you mean?  Both links work for me.
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> On Tue, March 4, 2025 3:55 pm, flywire wrote:
>> > Re: https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user
>> > * Mail-Archive (GnuCash-User) - link is malformed
>> > * Mail-Archive (GnuCash-Devel) - works well
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 at 02:07, Derek Atkins  wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've updated the index.html with links to mail-archive for
>> gnucash-user
>> >> and gnucash-devel.
>> >>
>> >> -derek
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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