[GNC] Fwd: automatic payment summary

2025-02-22 Thread Xe Roy

Ah. Thanks. Now I understand.

However, it seems the REVIEW CREATED TRANSACTIONS option is not working.

I would think that if that is checked I should see a rundown of all the 
created transactions, but all I get is the notification window.




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: [GNC] automatic payment summary
Date:   Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:58:43 -0600
From:   Mark Penner 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
CC: Xe Roy 



On Saturday, February 22, 2025 12:47:16 PM Central Standard Time Xe Roy 
wrote:

About every 6 months, gnucash will present me with a handy pop-up screen
at start-up that shows every automatic payment it is about to be made.

I don't know the rhyme or reason behind what causes it to do this. I
wish it would do it for all automatic payments. I have poked around
trying to make that happen. I checked all the boxes in the SCHEDULED
TRANSACTIONS page (I left the CREATE IN ADVANCE and REMIND IN ADVANCE at
zeroes), but all I ever get is a pop-up that says some automatic
transactions were done but no details.

How do I get the details every time?


Note that the create automatically and notify when created settings in 
the preferences are defaults for new scheduled transactions. To adjust 
those settings for existing scheduled transactions go to the scheduled 
transaction editor and you can adjust them for each scheduled transaction.


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Re: [GNC] automatic payment summary

2025-02-22 Thread David Carlson
I personally have changed my preferences to only run the Since Last Run
from the menu instead of on startup.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 5:59 PM Mark Penner  wrote:

> On Saturday, February 22, 2025 12:47:16 PM Central Standard Time Xe Roy
> wrote:
> > About every 6 months, gnucash will present me with a handy pop-up screen
> > at start-up that shows every automatic payment it is about to be made.
> >
> > I don't know the rhyme or reason behind what causes it to do this. I
> > wish it would do it for all automatic payments. I have poked around
> > trying to make that happen. I checked all the boxes in the SCHEDULED
> > TRANSACTIONS page (I left the CREATE IN ADVANCE and REMIND IN ADVANCE at
> > zeroes), but all I ever get is a pop-up that says some automatic
> > transactions were done but no details.
> >
> > How do I get the details every time?
>
> Note that the create automatically and notify when created settings in the
> preferences are defaults for new scheduled transactions. To adjust those
> settings for existing scheduled transactions go to the scheduled
> transaction
> editor and you can adjust them for each scheduled transaction.
>
>
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Re: [GNC] How to handle (double-entry bookkeeping conventions?)

2025-02-22 Thread Geoff

Hi Simon

Please see attached.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Geoff
=

On 23/02/2025 7:55 am, Simon Roberts wrote:

Hi all, I've been happily doing my books in GNC for several years, and I
would have said I'm pretty comfortable with the whole double entry system.
However, I came across something yesterday and for some reason I can't get
my head around it.

I have a PayPall "Asset" account (essentially the same as my bank
accounts), I have an "Accounts Receivable" account, I have a customer, and
an invoice.

PayPal takes a fee out of monies received.

I would like to make an entry that shows money received by paypal, have
that entry applied to the invoice, thereby zeroing out the
corresponding accounts receivable, and in the same transaction, as a split,
show the paypal fee charged against "Office Expenses" (that's likely not
the best description, but I figure it should work mathematically, even if
it would be perhaps better to create a "Bank Fees" or even "PayPal fees"
expenses category.

But when I try to do this, I seem to end up creating something bogus (and I
know you probably want to know what I mean by that, but I don't really
know--sometimes the transaction simply vanishes, sometimes it doesn't seem
to wipe out the accounts receivable balance, I just get stuff I don't make
sense of).

So, I guess I have a couple of questions. First, does my description of
what I'm trying to do make sense, or is there something clearly bogus in
the plan? If it's not the right way, is anyone willing to outline the
accounts I should have, and what gets put where?

Thanks for any help!
Cheers,
Simon

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[GNC] Fwd: automatic payment summary

2025-02-22 Thread Xe Roy

My bad.

I meant to say SCHEDULED TRANSACTIONS instead of AUTOMATIC PAYMENTS.

Anyway, I'm confused too.

I would think that AUTO-CREATE NEW TRANSACTIONS should be checked since 
I do want them automatically created. I'm even more confused that 
turning that switch off will cause me to begin seeing the details 
pop-up. But, I did as Bruce suggested and will wait to see what happens.




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: [GNC] automatic payment summary
Date:   Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:20:19 -0600
From:   David Carlson 
To: Bruce Olson 
CC: gnucash-user@gnucash.org



I am confused. Bruce has assumed that you are referring to scheduled
transactions, which is a function that GnuCash can perform, but you
referred to automatic paymentsl, which GnuCash cannot perform.

If you really are asking about scheduled transactions, his answer should
help you. Scheduled transactions can be set up and used for almost any
transaction that you expect to enter again sometime in the future, even if
some details such as exact dates or amounts change.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 1:48 PM Bruce Olson via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:


On 2/22/25 10:47, Xe Roy wrote:

About every 6 months, gnucash will present me with a handy pop-up
screen at start-up that shows every automatic payment it is about to
be made.

I don't know the rhyme or reason behind what causes it to do this. I
wish it would do it for all automatic payments. I have poked around
trying to make that happen. I checked all the boxes in the SCHEDULED
TRANSACTIONS page (I left the CREATE IN ADVANCE and REMIND IN ADVANCE
at zeroes), but all I ever get is a pop-up that says some automatic
transactions were done but no details.

How do I get the details every time?

Thanks in advance.

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Try this setting:

Edit --> Preferences --> Scheduled Transactions

Check Review created transactions

Uncheck Auto-create new transactions


Please see the attached screenshot.


Regards,

Bruce

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Re: [GNC] How to handle (double-entry bookkeeping conventions?)

2025-02-22 Thread David Cousens
Simon

When you made the sale you will have made an entry something like

Assets: A/RDr xxx
Income:Sales   Cr xxx.

To record  the receipt of the money in your Paypal account and remove
the amount from the A/R balance and the fees expense then the following
entries will do the trick:

Assets:Paypal   Dr xxx-yy
Expenses:PP FeesDr yy
Assets:A/R  Cr xxx(as a Payment against the invoice).

David Cousens

On Sat, 2025-02-22 at 13:55 -0700, Simon Roberts wrote:
> Hi all, I've been happily doing my books in GNC for several years,
> and I
> would have said I'm pretty comfortable with the whole double entry
> system.
> However, I came across something yesterday and for some reason I
> can't get
> my head around it.
> 
> I have a PayPall "Asset" account (essentially the same as my bank
> accounts), I have an "Accounts Receivable" account, I have a
> customer, and
> an invoice.
> 
> PayPal takes a fee out of monies received.
> 
> I would like to make an entry that shows money received by paypal,
> have
> that entry applied to the invoice, thereby zeroing out the
> corresponding accounts receivable, and in the same transaction, as a
> split,
> show the paypal fee charged against "Office Expenses" (that's likely
> not
> the best description, but I figure it should work mathematically,
> even if
> it would be perhaps better to create a "Bank Fees" or even "PayPal
> fees"
> expenses category.
> 
> But when I try to do this, I seem to end up creating something bogus
> (and I
> know you probably want to know what I mean by that, but I don't
> really
> know--sometimes the transaction simply vanishes, sometimes it doesn't
> seem
> to wipe out the accounts receivable balance, I just get stuff I don't
> make
> sense of).
> 
> So, I guess I have a couple of questions. First, does my description
> of
> what I'm trying to do make sense, or is there something clearly bogus
> in
> the plan? If it's not the right way, is anyone willing to outline the
> accounts I should have, and what gets put where?
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> Cheers,
> Simon
> 
> 

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Re: [GNC] Issue with Backup and Log Files

2025-02-22 Thread Derek Atkins

Are you using a SQLite backend storage?
-derek
Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
On February 22, 2025 13:36:59 Ivan Miotto  wrote:


Hello everyone,
I just joined this mailing list, and I hope this is the correct way to 
request support.
I am experiencing an issue with the management of backups and log files in 
GnuCash.
When I create a new file, the backup is saved correctly in the format 
.gnucash.MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash. However, in my main file, which I have 
been using for years, the backup is not created in the correct format, and 
only log files are saved.
Additionally, I have noticed that even if I set the log file retention to 
“Never,” GnuCash still continues to generate log files. This issue occurs 
only with my main file and not with newly created files.

My questions are:
1. Why does my main file not generate backups in the correct format and 
only save log files?
2. Why does GnuCash continue to create log files even when I set the 
retention option to “Never”?

System information:
• Operating system: macOS Sequoia on an M-series processor
• GnuCash version: 5.10
• Build ID: 5.10+(2024-12-14)

Thank you for your support!

Best regards.
Ivan
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Re: [GNC] automatic payment summary

2025-02-22 Thread Mark Penner
On Saturday, February 22, 2025 12:47:16 PM Central Standard Time Xe Roy wrote:
> About every 6 months, gnucash will present me with a handy pop-up screen
> at start-up that shows every automatic payment it is about to be made.
> 
> I don't know the rhyme or reason behind what causes it to do this. I
> wish it would do it for all automatic payments. I have poked around
> trying to make that happen. I checked all the boxes in the SCHEDULED
> TRANSACTIONS page (I left the CREATE IN ADVANCE and REMIND IN ADVANCE at
> zeroes), but all I ever get is a pop-up that says some automatic
> transactions were done but no details.
> 
> How do I get the details every time?

Note that the create automatically and notify when created settings in the 
preferences are defaults for new scheduled transactions. To adjust those 
settings for existing scheduled transactions go to the scheduled transaction 
editor and you can adjust them for each scheduled transaction.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: automatic payment summary

2025-02-22 Thread Brad Morrison
Hi Xe/GNUCash users, 

As this situation develops, maybe it is a good idea to cover the basics:
 

What operating system are you using GNUCash on? 

What version of GNUCash are you using?  

https://gnucash.org/download.phtml - 5.10 is the current version. 

---
Thanks, 

Brad - https://www.facebook.com/brad.morrison.12327/ &
https://nextdoor.com/profile/01mP46jj8KCzj3sP4 &
https://norcal.social/@BradMorrison 

On 2025-02-22 16:19, Xe Roy wrote:

> Ah. Thanks. Now I understand.
> 
> However, it seems the REVIEW CREATED TRANSACTIONS option is not working.
> 
> I would think that if that is checked I should see a rundown of all the 
> created transactions, but all I get is the notification window.
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] automatic payment summary
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:58:43 -0600
> From: Mark Penner 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> CC: Xe Roy 
> 
> On Saturday, February 22, 2025 12:47:16 PM Central Standard Time Xe Roy 
> wrote: 
> 
>> About every 6 months, gnucash will present me with a handy pop-up screen
>> at start-up that shows every automatic payment it is about to be made.
>> 
>> I don't know the rhyme or reason behind what causes it to do this. I
>> wish it would do it for all automatic payments. I have poked around
>> trying to make that happen. I checked all the boxes in the SCHEDULED
>> TRANSACTIONS page (I left the CREATE IN ADVANCE and REMIND IN ADVANCE at
>> zeroes), but all I ever get is a pop-up that says some automatic
>> transactions were done but no details.
>> 
>> How do I get the details every time?
> 
> Note that the create automatically and notify when created settings in the 
> preferences are defaults for new scheduled transactions. To adjust those 
> settings for existing scheduled transactions go to the scheduled transaction 
> editor and you can adjust them for each scheduled transaction.
> 
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Re: [GNC] Saved reports "forget" their target accounts

2025-02-22 Thread Michael Hendry
No need to apologise, John, I know you’ve got plenty to do.

Michael

> On 21 Feb 2025, at 18:23, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Sorry, no, I’ve been busy with other stuff and haven’t had time to work on it.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2025, at 1:56 AM, Michael Hendry  wrote:
>> 
>> Any progress on this bug report?
>> 
>> I reported a method by which I can reliably reproduce this behaviour a week 
>> ago, and am happy to investigate further given some guidance as to what 
>> would be helpful.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2025, at 20:52, John Ralls  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> The reporter on bug 799533 made an important discovery: He had restored his 
>>> saved-reports-2.8 from a backup and then changed and saved one of them, 
>>> adding an account. That *one* saved correctly but all of the others saved 
>>> with no accounts and no other changes.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 2, 2025, at 00:00, Michael Hendry  wrote:
 
 PS See below
 
> On 1 Feb 2025, at 17:35, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> OK, that explains what happened.  There should be weekly Time Machine 
> backups between 9 November and 22 December. Is 22 December the first one 
> with empty Account sections? Does the disappearance of the Account 
> sections correspond to any event you can think of, like the first time 
> you used GnuCash 5.10  or opening the saved report in the wrong book that 
> you mentioned in your letter introducing this thread.
> 
> There’s one other thing in that letter that I don’t understand:
> 
>> 
>> I closed a few accounts, and I realised that a full report with all the 
>> current information had been drawn into view from the right hand side of 
>> the screen, coexisting with the above error report.
> 
> Was that a left-over from a previous run of the report?
 
 
 
 Yes. I’m not sure if I’d just opened the .gnucash file and GC had reloaded 
 all the accounts and reports from the last run, or had just switched to an 
 already open instance of GC from another application. 
 M
>>> 
 On Feb 1, 2025, at 14:56, Michael Hendry  wrote:
 
 John,
 
 I’ve hunted through Time Machine, and having found only four backed-up 
 copies of saved-reports-2.8, dated:
 
 9 Nov 2024 (Has UUIDS in the Accounts section)
 4 Dec 2024 (Has UUIDS in the Accounts section)
 22 Dec 2024 (Accounts Section empty)
 23 January 2025 (Accounts Section empty)
 
 I can’t be sure exactly when I first encountered the “No accounts 
 selected” error message when I ran the GASDS report, nor its timing in 
 relation to my upgrade to 5.9 - I haven’t yet moved on to 5.10. GC says 
 the Build ID is 5.9+(2024-09-28), but it’ quite possible I didn’t install 
 5.9 until mid-December.
 
 Regards,
 
 Michael
>> 
>> 
> 

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Re: [GNC] automatic payment summary

2025-02-22 Thread Bruce Olson via gnucash-user

On 2/22/25 10:47, Xe Roy wrote:
About every 6 months, gnucash will present me with a handy pop-up 
screen at start-up that shows every automatic payment it is about to 
be made.


I don't know the rhyme or reason behind what causes it to do this. I 
wish it would do it for all automatic payments. I have poked around 
trying to make that happen. I checked all the boxes in the SCHEDULED 
TRANSACTIONS page (I left the CREATE IN ADVANCE and REMIND IN ADVANCE 
at zeroes), but all I ever get is a pop-up that says some automatic 
transactions were done but no details.


How do I get the details every time?

Thanks in advance.

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Try this setting:

Edit --> Preferences --> Scheduled Transactions

Check Review created transactions

Uncheck Auto-create new transactions


Please see the attached screenshot.


Regards,

Bruce

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[GNC] How to handle (double-entry bookkeeping conventions?)

2025-02-22 Thread Simon Roberts
Hi all, I've been happily doing my books in GNC for several years, and I
would have said I'm pretty comfortable with the whole double entry system.
However, I came across something yesterday and for some reason I can't get
my head around it.

I have a PayPall "Asset" account (essentially the same as my bank
accounts), I have an "Accounts Receivable" account, I have a customer, and
an invoice.

PayPal takes a fee out of monies received.

I would like to make an entry that shows money received by paypal, have
that entry applied to the invoice, thereby zeroing out the
corresponding accounts receivable, and in the same transaction, as a split,
show the paypal fee charged against "Office Expenses" (that's likely not
the best description, but I figure it should work mathematically, even if
it would be perhaps better to create a "Bank Fees" or even "PayPal fees"
expenses category.

But when I try to do this, I seem to end up creating something bogus (and I
know you probably want to know what I mean by that, but I don't really
know--sometimes the transaction simply vanishes, sometimes it doesn't seem
to wipe out the accounts receivable balance, I just get stuff I don't make
sense of).

So, I guess I have a couple of questions. First, does my description of
what I'm trying to do make sense, or is there something clearly bogus in
the plan? If it's not the right way, is anyone willing to outline the
accounts I should have, and what gets put where?

Thanks for any help!
Cheers,
Simon


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Re: [GNC] Issue with Backup and Log Files

2025-02-22 Thread Maf. King
On Saturday, 22 February 2025 15:10:43 GMT Ivan Miotto wrote:

Hi welcome to the list Ivan.  Please remember to "reply-all" or "reply-list" - 
others will be able to help more than me and others with the same issues might 
find a solution too!

> 1. Why does my main file not generate backups in the correct format and only
> save log files? 

Total Guess from me: is the original file in XML or one of the database 
formats?  ISTR that backups are not created if the file is not XML.


> 2. Why does GnuCash continue to create log files even when
> I set the retention option to “Never”? 

Not got any great insight here Does GC *retain* the log files from run-to-
run?  IE does the list of retained logs grow to more than one?  

HTH,
Maf.


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[GNC] Issue with Backup and Log Files

2025-02-22 Thread Ivan Miotto
Hello everyone,
I just joined this mailing list, and I hope this is the correct way to request 
support.
I am experiencing an issue with the management of backups and log files in 
GnuCash.
When I create a new file, the backup is saved correctly in the format 
.gnucash.MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash. However, in my main file, which I have been 
using for years, the backup is not created in the correct format, and only log 
files are saved.
Additionally, I have noticed that even if I set the log file retention to 
“Never,” GnuCash still continues to generate log files. This issue occurs only 
with my main file and not with newly created files.
My questions are:
1. Why does my main file not generate backups in the correct format and only 
save log files?
2. Why does GnuCash continue to create log files even when I set the retention 
option to “Never”?
System information:
• Operating system: macOS Sequoia on an M-series processor
• GnuCash version: 5.10
• Build ID: 5.10+(2024-12-14)

Thank you for your support!

Best regards.
Ivan
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[GNC] Issue with Backup and Log Files

2025-02-22 Thread Ivan Miotto
Hello everyone,
I just joined this mailing list, and I hope this is the correct way to request 
support.
I am experiencing an issue with the management of backups and log files in 
GnuCash.
When I create a new file, the backup is saved correctly in the format 
.gnucash.MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash. However, in my main file, which I have been 
using for years, the backup is not created in the correct format, and only log 
files are saved.
Additionally, I have noticed that even if I set the log file retention to 
“Never,” GnuCash still continues to generate log files. This issue occurs only 
with my main file and not with newly created files.
My questions are:
1. Why does my main file not generate backups in the correct format and only 
save log files?
2. Why does GnuCash continue to create log files even when I set the retention 
option to “Never”?
System information:
• Operating system: macOS Sequoia on an M-series processor
• GnuCash version: 5.10
• Build ID: 5.10+(2024-12-14)

Thank you for your support!

Best regards.

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Re: [GNC] Issue with Backup and Log Files

2025-02-22 Thread R Losey
On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 9:11 AM Ivan Miotto  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I just joined this mailing list, and I hope this is the correct way to
> request support.
> I am experiencing an issue with the management of backups and log files in
> GnuCash.
> When I create a new file, the backup is saved correctly in the format
> .gnucash.MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash. However, in my main file, which I have
> been using for years, the backup is not created in the correct format, and
> only log files are saved.
> Additionally, I have noticed that even if I set the log file retention to
> “Never,” GnuCash still continues to generate log files. This issue occurs
> only with my main file and not with newly created files.
> My questions are:
> 1. Why does my main file not generate backups in the correct format and
> only save log files?
> 2. Why does GnuCash continue to create log files even when I set the
> retention option to “Never”?
> System information:
> • Operating system: macOS Sequoia on an M-series processor
> • GnuCash version: 5.10
> • Build ID: 5.10+(2024-12-14)
>
> Thank you for your support!
>
> Best regards.
>

Welcome. I have GnuCash 5.10 on macOS M1 with Sonoma.

In my GnuCash, the Settings->General has "Retain log/backup files for", so
if you have this set to Never, perhaps that is why no backup files are
being created?  Mine is working properly based upon that setting.

How do you think you have this set to create backups, but no log files?

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[GNC] automatic payment summary

2025-02-22 Thread Xe Roy
About every 6 months, gnucash will present me with a handy pop-up screen 
at start-up that shows every automatic payment it is about to be made.


I don't know the rhyme or reason behind what causes it to do this. I 
wish it would do it for all automatic payments. I have poked around 
trying to make that happen. I checked all the boxes in the SCHEDULED 
TRANSACTIONS page (I left the CREATE IN ADVANCE and REMIND IN ADVANCE at 
zeroes), but all I ever get is a pop-up that says some automatic 
transactions were done but no details.


How do I get the details every time?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [GNC] automatic payment summary

2025-02-22 Thread David Carlson
I am confused.  Bruce has assumed that you are referring to scheduled
transactions, which is a function that GnuCash can perform, but you
referred to automatic paymentsl, which GnuCash cannot perform.

If you really are asking about scheduled transactions, his answer should
help you.  Scheduled transactions can be set up and used for almost any
transaction that you expect to enter again sometime in the future, even if
some details such as exact dates or amounts change.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 1:48 PM Bruce Olson via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> On 2/22/25 10:47, Xe Roy wrote:
> > About every 6 months, gnucash will present me with a handy pop-up
> > screen at start-up that shows every automatic payment it is about to
> > be made.
> >
> > I don't know the rhyme or reason behind what causes it to do this. I
> > wish it would do it for all automatic payments. I have poked around
> > trying to make that happen. I checked all the boxes in the SCHEDULED
> > TRANSACTIONS page (I left the CREATE IN ADVANCE and REMIND IN ADVANCE
> > at zeroes), but all I ever get is a pop-up that says some automatic
> > transactions were done but no details.
> >
> > How do I get the details every time?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
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> Try this setting:
>
> Edit --> Preferences --> Scheduled Transactions
>
> Check Review created transactions
>
> Uncheck Auto-create new transactions
>
>
> Please see the attached screenshot.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Bruce
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