Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 251, Issue 14

[Aryeh Gielchinsky]

That works, thanks!


> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 09:01:29 -0600
> From: Mark at Lorimark 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Import CSV settings location
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> <5363533b-c534-4905-a487-ef73fa42a...@lorimarksolutions.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi Aryeh
>
> Can you click on Help->About and does it show the various paths in use?
>
> ~mark petryk
> ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com
>
> On 2/7/24 08:57, Aryeh Gielchinsky wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm a new user.
> >
> > I saved some CSV import settings on computer A, synced my
> > account/transaction file to computer B, but I'm unable to use the saved
> > import CSV settings on Computer B. Are these import CSV settings saved
> > somewhere on each computer separately? I've checked
> > $HOME/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash but I didn't successfully find the
> > settings for importing CSVs. Is there a way to save these import settings
> > with my account/transactions file?
> >
> > I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 (Linux) using GNUcash 5.5 via Flatpak.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Aryeh
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Re: [GNC] New user error (was: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 251, Issue 12)

[sunfish62--- via gnucash-user]

Sure. Is that short enough for you?

⁣David T.​

On Feb 8, 2024, 8:17 AM, at 8:17 AM, Fred Bone  wrote:
>On 07 February 2024 at 22:17, sunfis...@yahoo.com said:
>
>> Agreed. 
>> 
>> ⁣David T. 
>
>followed by 15k of someone else's message including quotes about six  
>levels deep featuring the whole of a messaage digest.
>
>Please trim 
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Re: [GNC] New user error

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 2/7/2024 11:11 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Michael,

Transaction Journal View is simply the same full transaction 
accessible via either 'Split' or 'Auto-Split' but for all transactions 
- *not* one at a time. 


Yes of course, can have on your screen "journal view" for all 
transactions affecting the account. But that is NOT "full journal view". 
Gnucash is "virtual journal" but you can get gnucash to show you that 
(full journal).


By "full journal" I mean something looking like what would have been 
used in old pen and ink on paper days. The entries in date order no 
matter what accounts were involved.


See what the report "General Journal" gives you.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] New user error

[Derek Atkins]

I presume you mean Tools -> General Journal ?

-derek

On Thu, February 8, 2024 9:58 am, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 11:11 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> Transaction Journal View is simply the same full transaction
>> accessible via either 'Split' or 'Auto-Split' but for all transactions
>> - *not* one at a time.
>
> Yes of course, can have on your screen "journal view" for all
> transactions affecting the account. But that is NOT "full journal view".
> Gnucash is "virtual journal" but you can get gnucash to show you that
> (full journal).
>
> By "full journal" I mean something looking like what would have been
> used in old pen and ink on paper days. The entries in date order no
> matter what accounts were involved.
>
> See what the report "General Journal" gives you.
>
>
> Michael D Novack
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

[Jack Slater]

Anything coming soon to fix this?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:26 PM Patrick James 
wrote:

> This is bug 799093, and John Ralls has not asked additional questions
> after I was able to reliably reproduce (part of) the issue, so, hopefully,
> there is sufficient information to find the bug.
>
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799093
>
>
> > On 01/25/2024 10:02 AM PST Jack Slater  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm back! Reconciling a credit card account today. Another "rogue"
> > transaction created in the reconcile register (image attached).
> > However it's NOT in the account ledger (image attached)!! When I try to
> > edit the reconcile transaction I get an error message reading "Target
> split
> > is currently hidden in this register" (also attached). I know I read a
> bug
> > report on this action and I thought I could add more evidence in hopes of
> > getting the issue resolved.
> >
> > [image: there.jpg]
> > [image: not there.jpg]
> >
> > [image: error.jpg]
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 5:48 PM Jim DeLaHunt 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Jack:
> > >
> > > On 2024-01-11 09:11, Jack Slater wrote:
> > > > 90 minutes of reconciling down the drain with a crash near the end
> of the
> > > > final account
> > > My commiserations. Yes, it is maddening to lose 90 minutes of work when
> > > the tech decides to fail you.
> > > > ... Oddly, even though GnuC auto saves periodically, it seems
> > > > none of any add/delete/balance transactions were saved in any
> account!
> > > Why
> > > > would that be
> > >
> > > I can think of several interesting directions you could take this
> thread:
> > >
> > > Why didn't GnuCash seem to preserve any of the changes in my 90 minutes
> > > of work?
> > >
> > > How can I change my workflow so that I lose less work when the tech
> > > decides to fail me?
> > >
> > > How can I improve the way I write message to this list, so that I get
> > > more helpful answers?
> > >
> > > How can I stop these tech failures from happening?
> > >
> > > On that last point, I can offer two concrete suggestions:
> > >
> > > 1. GnuCash has a "Check and Repair" feature which is useful to try when
> > > you are concerned about "rogue" transactions and such. Try going to the
> > > Accounts tab of the main window, and select menu item Actions -- Check
> > > and Repair -- Repair All. This menu is described a little in the
> GnuCash
> > > manual, section 4.2.1.4. "Account Tree - Actions Menu", at
> > > <
> > >
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/gui-acct-tree.html#AccTree-actions-menu
> > > >.
> > >
> > > 2. The text in your "Entry Point Not Found" dialogue, which GnuCash
> > > displays when it crashes, has been discussed on this list recently.  It
> > > is described in a bug report at
> > > . It is suspected to
> be
> > > problem from GnuCash 5.4 leaving pieces behind when GnuCash 5.5
> > > installs. There is a workaround there:
> > >
> > > a. Use the File Explorer to open "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\"
> > >
> > > b. If there is a file named "libxmlsec1.dll" present, but no file named
> > > "libxmlsec.dll", then rename file "libxmlsec1.dll" to the name
> > > "libxmlsec.dll" (without the trailing "1").
> > >
> > > I do not use GnuCash on Windows, so I have no experience with this
> > > problem. I only know what I read. If you ask this list directly about
> > > how to work around this bug, Windows users may be able to give you
> > > better help.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps,
> > >   —Jim DeLaHunt
> > >
> > >
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Re: [GNC] New user error

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm aware of the report. There is also Tools > General Journal where you 
can make edits and add new transactions. The view is filtered by default 
to only 30 days, but that can be changed. Unfortunately, the change is 
not sticky.


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/8/24 8:58 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:

On 2/7/2024 11:11 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Michael,

Transaction Journal View is simply the same full transaction 
accessible via either 'Split' or 'Auto-Split' but for all transactions 
- *not* one at a time. 


Yes of course, can have on your screen "journal view" for all 
transactions affecting the account. But that is NOT "full journal view". 
Gnucash is "virtual journal" but you can get gnucash to show you that 
(full journal).


By "full journal" I mean something looking like what would have been 
used in old pen and ink on paper days. The entries in date order no 
matter what accounts were involved.


See what the report "General Journal" gives you.


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Re: [GNC] New user error

[Patrick James]

I've been comparing and contrasting two options:

1. Reports -> Assets & Liabilities -> General Journal
2. Tools -> General Journal

If the second option is selected, which is the one I generally use, then 
sorting by date of entry puts the transactions in date order. The General 
Journal (option 2) is also subject to filters.

The General Journal Report (option 1) does not have any options, at least none 
that I've found, so it should include all data entry.


> On 02/08/2024 7:06 AM PST Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
>  
> I presume you mean Tools -> General Journal ?
> 
> -derek
> 
> On Thu, February 8, 2024 9:58 am, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> > On 2/7/2024 11:11 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> >> Michael,
> >>
> >> Transaction Journal View is simply the same full transaction
> >> accessible via either 'Split' or 'Auto-Split' but for all transactions
> >> - *not* one at a time.
> >
> > Yes of course, can have on your screen "journal view" for all
> > transactions affecting the account. But that is NOT "full journal view".
> > Gnucash is "virtual journal" but you can get gnucash to show you that
> > (full journal).
> >
> > By "full journal" I mean something looking like what would have been
> > used in old pen and ink on paper days. The entries in date order no
> > matter what accounts were involved.
> >
> > See what the report "General Journal" gives you.
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

[john]

Probably not because I've been working for the last several weeks on getting 
WebKit buildable on Windows so we can have Windows releases with working 
reports.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Feb 8, 2024, at 08:54, Jack Slater  wrote:
> 
> Anything coming soon to fix this?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:26 PM Patrick James 
> wrote:
> 
>> This is bug 799093, and John Ralls has not asked additional questions
>> after I was able to reliably reproduce (part of) the issue, so, hopefully,
>> there is sufficient information to find the bug.
>> 
>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799093
>> 
>> 
>>> On 01/25/2024 10:02 AM PST Jack Slater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm back! Reconciling a credit card account today. Another "rogue"
>>> transaction created in the reconcile register (image attached).
>>> However it's NOT in the account ledger (image attached)!! When I try to
>>> edit the reconcile transaction I get an error message reading "Target
>> split
>>> is currently hidden in this register" (also attached). I know I read a
>> bug
>>> report on this action and I thought I could add more evidence in hopes of
>>> getting the issue resolved.
>>> 
>>> [image: there.jpg]
>>> [image: not there.jpg]
>>> 
>>> [image: error.jpg]
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 5:48 PM Jim DeLaHunt 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Jack:
 
 On 2024-01-11 09:11, Jack Slater wrote:
> 90 minutes of reconciling down the drain with a crash near the end
>> of the
> final account
 My commiserations. Yes, it is maddening to lose 90 minutes of work when
 the tech decides to fail you.
> ... Oddly, even though GnuC auto saves periodically, it seems
> none of any add/delete/balance transactions were saved in any
>> account!
 Why
> would that be
 
 I can think of several interesting directions you could take this
>> thread:
 
 Why didn't GnuCash seem to preserve any of the changes in my 90 minutes
 of work?
 
 How can I change my workflow so that I lose less work when the tech
 decides to fail me?
 
 How can I improve the way I write message to this list, so that I get
 more helpful answers?
 
 How can I stop these tech failures from happening?
 
 On that last point, I can offer two concrete suggestions:
 
 1. GnuCash has a "Check and Repair" feature which is useful to try when
 you are concerned about "rogue" transactions and such. Try going to the
 Accounts tab of the main window, and select menu item Actions -- Check
 and Repair -- Repair All. This menu is described a little in the
>> GnuCash
 manual, section 4.2.1.4. "Account Tree - Actions Menu", at
 <
 
>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/gui-acct-tree.html#AccTree-actions-menu
> .
 
 2. The text in your "Entry Point Not Found" dialogue, which GnuCash
 displays when it crashes, has been discussed on this list recently.  It
 is described in a bug report at
 . It is suspected to
>> be
 problem from GnuCash 5.4 leaving pieces behind when GnuCash 5.5
 installs. There is a workaround there:
 
 a. Use the File Explorer to open "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\"
 
 b. If there is a file named "libxmlsec1.dll" present, but no file named
 "libxmlsec.dll", then rename file "libxmlsec1.dll" to the name
 "libxmlsec.dll" (without the trailing "1").
 
 I do not use GnuCash on Windows, so I have no experience with this
 problem. I only know what I read. If you ask this list directly about
 how to work around this bug, Windows users may be able to give you
 better help.
 
 I hope this helps,
  —Jim DeLaHunt
 
 
 
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Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

[Patrick James]

Save, Exit, and Reload will clear the rouge transactions.
 

> On 02/08/2024 8:54 AM PST Jack Slater  wrote:
>  
>  
> Anything coming soon to fix this?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:26 PM Patrick James  mailto:patrickjame...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > This is bug 799093, and John Ralls has not asked additional questions after 
> > I was able to reliably reproduce (part of) the issue, so, hopefully, there 
> > is sufficient information to find the bug.
> > 
> > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799093
> > 
> > s by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> > 
> 
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Re: [GNC] New user error

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

On 2024-02-08 08:59, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> I'm aware of the report. There is also Tools > General Journal where you
> can make edits and add new transactions. The view is filtered by default
> to only 30 days, but that can be changed. Unfortunately, the change is
> not sticky.

It was not sticky in 2.6.19, but it is sticky in 4.14 if you tick the
box when creating the filter.

If you're using 5.x, is it sticky there? If not, the bug should probably
be reopened or a new bug filed.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com/
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[GNC] Report Error on Flatpak

[Aryeh Gielchinsky]

Hi I'm a new user.

I've been able to create accounts and add transactions. When I try to
create a report (i.e. Reports->Income & Expenses->Expense Chart) I get a
new tab with a blank screen, and the following error.

Gtk-Message: 21:47:08.844: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 21:47:08.845: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
KMS: DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CREATE_DUMB failed: Permission denied
Failed to create GBM buffer of size 2488x852: Permission denied
KMS: DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CREATE_DUMB failed: Permission denied
Failed to create GBM buffer of size 2488x852: Permission denied
KMS: DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CREATE_DUMB failed: Permission denied
Failed to create GBM buffer of size 2488x852: Permission denied
Failed to create EGL images for DMABufs with file descriptors -1, -1 and -1

I've tried running as root, but that didn't help. I've installed
libcanberra-gtk-module and libcanberra-gtk0 on my base system, but that
doesn't help (probably because Gnucash is installed as a flatpak).

I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 (Linux) using GNUcash 5.5 via Flatpak.

Thanks
Aryeh
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[GNC] Popup shows wrong acnt

[Fred Tydeman]

OS: Linux
GC 4.14

I have some accounts open, so the bar near the top shows the accounts.
If I hover the mouse over one of those accounts, I get a popup with the
full "path" (acnt:subacnt:subacnt:...).

I then click on the leftmost Accounts, pick one of those other accounts
(that are on the bar), click Edit, change the parent account (move to a
different place).

If I then hover the mouse over that account (on the top bar) that just
moved, it still shows the  old "path".  Seems like a very minor bug (if
others have this issue).

If I close that moved account, and reopen it, when I hover the mouse, it
now shows the correct "path".
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Re: [GNC] New user error

[Adrien Monteleone]

Nice. I'm using 5.4 and it shows all transactions.

I learn something new every day.

Thanks!

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/8/24 12:41 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

On 2024-02-08 08:59, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

I'm aware of the report. There is also Tools > General Journal where you
can make edits and add new transactions. The view is filtered by default
to only 30 days, but that can be changed. Unfortunately, the change is
not sticky.


It was not sticky in 2.6.19, but it is sticky in 4.14 if you tick the
box when creating the filter.

If you're using 5.x, is it sticky there? If not, the bug should probably
be reopened or a new bug filed.


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Re: [GNC] New user error

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

> On 2/8/24 12:41 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:
>> On 2024-02-08 08:59, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>>> I'm aware of the report. There is also Tools > General Journal where you
>>> can make edits and add new transactions. The view is filtered by default
>>> to only 30 days, but that can be changed. Unfortunately, the change is
>>> not sticky.
>>
>> It was not sticky in 2.6.19, but it is sticky in 4.14 if you tick the
>> box when creating the filter.
>>
>> If you're using 5.x, is it sticky there? If not, the bug should probably
>> be reopened or a new bug filed.

On 2024-02-08 17:42, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> Nice. I'm using 5.4 and it shows all transactions.
>
> I learn something new every day.
>
> Thanks!

Me too -- that's one reason why I read this list even when I'm not
waiting for an answer to a question I posted!

I have my General Journal filter set to the first day of the previous
month, which is as far back as I want it to look for matching
transactions. Every month I update the start date.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Popup shows wrong acnt

[Geoff]

Fred, I reckon that's a "feature" not a "bug", GnuCash is retaining the 
history of where you moved that account *from* just in case you decided 
to move it back again.


;--))

Geoff
=

On 9/02/2024 11:46 am, Fred Tydeman wrote:

OS: Linux
GC 4.14

I have some accounts open, so the bar near the top shows the accounts.
If I hover the mouse over one of those accounts, I get a popup with the
full "path" (acnt:subacnt:subacnt:...).

I then click on the leftmost Accounts, pick one of those other accounts
(that are on the bar), click Edit, change the parent account (move to a
different place).

If I then hover the mouse over that account (on the top bar) that just
moved, it still shows the  old "path".  Seems like a very minor bug (if
others have this issue).

If I close that moved account, and reopen it, when I hover the mouse, it
now shows the correct "path".
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Re: [GNC] Report Error on Flatpak

[Bruce Olson via gnucash-user]

On 2/8/24 11:50, Aryeh Gielchinsky wrote:

Hi I'm a new user.

I've been able to create accounts and add transactions. When I try to
create a report (i.e. Reports->Income & Expenses->Expense Chart) I get a
new tab with a blank screen, and the following error.

Gtk-Message: 21:47:08.844: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 21:47:08.845: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
KMS: DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CREATE_DUMB failed: Permission denied
Failed to create GBM buffer of size 2488x852: Permission denied
KMS: DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CREATE_DUMB failed: Permission denied
Failed to create GBM buffer of size 2488x852: Permission denied
KMS: DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CREATE_DUMB failed: Permission denied
Failed to create GBM buffer of size 2488x852: Permission denied
Failed to create EGL images for DMABufs with file descriptors -1, -1 and -1

I've tried running as root, but that didn't help. I've installed
libcanberra-gtk-module and libcanberra-gtk0 on my base system, but that
doesn't help (probably because Gnucash is installed as a flatpak).

I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 (Linux) using GNUcash 5.5 via Flatpak.

Thanks
Aryeh
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Hi Aryeh,

This report is working correctly for me.

This is my setup.

From Help-->About (in GnuCash):
GnuCash Version: 5.5
Build ID: Flathub 5.5

My OS is Xubuntu 22.04.

This is how I installed GnuCash via Flatpak.

I enabled flatpak in the GNOME software center
$ sudo apt install flatpak gnome-software-plugin-flatpak

I enabled the flathub repository
$ flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub 
https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo


I installed GnuCash via Flatpak using the GNOME software center.

How did you install your Flatpak GnuCash v5.5?
Do you have only one instance of GnuCash (Flatpak only) installed?  You 
should not have the deb (Ubuntu distro) version installed.  If it is, 
you need to uninstall it first before installing the flatpak version 
(after backing up your data).


The Flatpak package of GnuCash bundles all the necessary libraries.

Regards,
Bruce

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