Re: [GNC] Gnu Cash stopped working 2 days ago.

2023-09-10 Thread (Alan) David Smith
Hello John,

Thankyou for your help. 

I may have misinterpreted your instructions:

alandavidsmith@Alans-MacBook-Pro ~ % 
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash --debug
Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash

(process:57211): gnc.gui-WARNING **: 12:06:37.791: [mac_set_languages()] 
Language list: en:en_GB:C
Backtrace:
   3 (apply-smob/1 #)
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
   2312:4  2 (save-module-excursion #)
In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
 36:6  1 (read-and-eval # #:lang _)
In unknown file:
   0 (read #)

ERROR: In procedure read:
In procedure string->number: Value out of range: 9739

Some deprecated features have been used.  Set the environment
variable GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED to "detailed" and rerun the
program to get more information.  Set it to "no" to suppress
this message.
alandavidsmith@Alans-MacBook-Pro ~ % 
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash --debug
Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash

(process:57308): gnc.gui-WARNING **: 12:10:00.559: [mac_set_languages()] 
Language list: en:en_GB:C
Backtrace:
   3 (apply-smob/1 #)
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
   2312:4  2 (save-module-excursion #)
In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
 36:6  1 (read-and-eval # #:lang _)
In unknown file:
   0 (read #)

ERROR: In procedure read:
In procedure string->number: Value out of range: 9739

Some deprecated features have been used.  Set the environment
variable GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED to "detailed" and rerun the
program to get more information.  Set it to "no" to suppress
this message.
alandavidsmith@Alans-MacBook-Pro ~ % $TMPDIR/gnucash.trace
zsh: permission denied: 
/var/folders/4z/9_58dccx62533wcvwb6t4jmcgn/T//gnucash.trace
alandavidsmith@Alans-MacBook-Pro ~ % find /var/folders -name gnucash.trace
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n12m8n/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n12m8n/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0b02r/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0b02r/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n10r86/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n10r86/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0sm6d/0: Operation not permitted
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0sm6d/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0sm6d/C: Operation not permitted
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n11m8d/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n11m8d/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0b42s/0/com.apple.pluginkit: 
Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0b42s/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0b42s/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0y07h/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0y07h/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n1288k/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n1288k/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0c431/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0c431/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n11h8c/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n11h8c/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0300r/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0300r/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0s86_/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0s86_/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n10c83/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n10c83/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n08421/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n08421/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n1388t/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n1388t/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0tm6n/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0tm6n/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n1188_/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n1188_/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n10w87/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n10w87/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0y87k/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond: 
Operation not permitted
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0y87k/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0y87k/C: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n10882/T: Permission denied
find: /var/folders/zz/zyxvp

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash as an Accounting Tutor

2023-09-10 Thread Michael or Penny Novack




I currently use examples built in Excel but am exploring the possibility of
moving to GnuCash, which allows its users to think in terms of double-entry
accounting using debits and credits, and to make entries using these terms.
It allows students to create different types of accounts
(asset/liability/equity), make journal entries for them using proper
accounting terminology, and then create financial statements.


You just have them choose the options "formal" (use debit and credit) 
and "journal entry mode" (otherwise just when entering "splits")




  


Question: Do you know of a simple accounting primer that uses GnuCash and
has many examples and some problem sets as well? If so, I would be very
appreciative if you would share it with me.


I'm no sure you'd need/want a specific primer EXCEPT the "how using 
gnucash part" (how do you choose "formal" and "journal view" and that 
you get to where you would enter in the journal from any ledger page 
(any account involved in the transaction). The problem sets would of 
course be useful. Note that this is a case where the gnucash tutorial 
might not be good for them as teaching all the shortcuts of "cashbook 
accounting" -- run before you walk. That's as far as I know (that the 
tutorial has no "formal accounting" section)


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash as an Accounting Tutor

2023-09-10 Thread Santhosh Paul
I had zero knowledge of accounting when I came across GnuCash. (I used to
note down transactions and balances in a notebook.)

I was skeptical about whether I could use a double-entry software package
like GnuCash. I then came across a document titled "GnuCash Tutorial and
Concepts Guide". I found that it beautifully explained everything I needed
to start using GnuCash.

This was 2009, and I've never looked back.

Santhosh

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 8:15 AM  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I teach a course in Corporate Valuation Theory that is taken by students
> from a variety of disciplines. Many of them have not studied accounting,
> and
> while I devote two lectures and two homework assignments to the subject, it
> is impossible to convey the depth of this vast subject and for students to
> internalize why double-entry accounting is so extraordinarily powerful.
>
>
>
> I currently use examples built in Excel but am exploring the possibility of
> moving to GnuCash, which allows its users to think in terms of double-entry
> accounting using debits and credits, and to make entries using these terms.
> It allows students to create different types of accounts
> (asset/liability/equity), make journal entries for them using proper
> accounting terminology, and then create financial statements.
>
>
>
> Question: Do you know of a simple accounting primer that uses GnuCash and
> has many examples and some problem sets as well? If so, I would be very
> appreciative if you would share it with me.
>
>
>
> Sincerely and with many thanks in advance
>
>
>
> Thomas Philips
>
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Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash as an Accounting Tutor

2023-09-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone

+1.

Those two preferences will most closely resemble pen & paper and should 
greatly assist them learning accounting.


Also turning on View > Notes, doesn't hurt as my own accounting text 
uses explanatory notes on some journal entries.


Finally, if you prefer they enter transactions in a combined journal as 
a pen & paper method would, and then simply view them in each account, 
there is Tools > General Journal. (by default I think only the last 30 
days, but you can change that with 'View > Filter by...' Sadly, there is 
no way to turn off the filter by default, and it has to be reset each 
time the General Journal is opened if desired.


*note, 'journal entry mode' is officially titled "Transaction Journal." 
(I use it exclusively, though some folks like "Auto-Split" which does 
the same but only for the currently focused transaction)


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/10/23 9:13 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:


I currently use examples built in Excel but am exploring the 
possibility of
moving to GnuCash, which allows its users to think in terms of 
double-entry
accounting using debits and credits, and to make entries using these 
terms.

It allows students to create different types of accounts
(asset/liability/equity), make journal entries for them using proper
accounting terminology, and then create financial statements.


You just have them choose the options "formal" (use debit and credit) 
and "journal entry mode" (otherwise just when entering "splits")


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Re: [GNC] Gnu Cash stopped working 2 days ago.

2023-09-10 Thread john



> On Sep 10, 2023, at 04:30, (Alan) David Smith  
> wrote:
> I may have misinterpreted your instructions:
[snip]
> alandavidsmith@Alans-MacBook-Pro ~ % $TMPDIR/gnucash.trace
> zsh: permission denied: 
> /var/folders/4z/9_58dccx62533wcvwb6t4jmcgn/T//gnucash.trace
> alandavidsmith@Alans-MacBook-Pro ~ % find /var/folders -name gnucash.trace

You did. The first is trying to execute the tracefile. It's a text log file 
that doesn't have execute permission (nor would it do anything if it did). Most 
of the files in /var/folders are restricted so you'd have to sudo to read them, 
hence the spew of Permission denied messages.

Instead, copy the tracefile to your user directory, that's easier than trying 
to navigate to its location in Finder:
  cp $TEMPDIR/gnucash.trace .
Then open a reply in your mail program (from the headers I guess that's 
Outlook) and use the attach button or menu selection and pick gnucash.trace  
from the chooser dialog. Send the reply.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash as an Accounting Tutor

2023-09-10 Thread Christopher Lam
Addendum to excellent advice given already. If you're offering a pedagogic
approach to accounting principles, it's very likely that you'll have
valuable and useful feedback about the usability of the software for
learners, the correctness of its tools and reports.

The software has improved a lot from previous educators and accounting
professionals alike.

On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 10:45 am ,  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I teach a course in Corporate Valuation Theory that is taken by students
> from a variety of disciplines. Many of them have not studied accounting,
> and
> while I devote two lectures and two homework assignments to the subject, it
> is impossible to convey the depth of this vast subject and for students to
> internalize why double-entry accounting is so extraordinarily powerful.
>
>
>
> I currently use examples built in Excel but am exploring the possibility of
> moving to GnuCash, which allows its users to think in terms of double-entry
> accounting using debits and credits, and to make entries using these terms.
> It allows students to create different types of accounts
> (asset/liability/equity), make journal entries for them using proper
> accounting terminology, and then create financial statements.
>
>
>
> Question: Do you know of a simple accounting primer that uses GnuCash and
> has many examples and some problem sets as well? If so, I would be very
> appreciative if you would share it with me.
>
>
>
> Sincerely and with many thanks in advance
>
>
>
> Thomas Philips
>
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Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash as an Accounting Tutor

2023-09-10 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2023-09-10 09:01, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> there is Tools > General Journal. (by default I think only the last 30
> days, but you can change that with 'View > Filter by...' Sadly, there is
> no way to turn off the filter by default, and it has to be reset each
> time the General Journal is opened if desired.

Not quite sure what you mean here, Adrien.

In GC 2.x, General Journal was called General Ledger. The filter on
General Ledger would not persist, even if you ticked Save Filter.
Closing and reopening the General Ledger tab reverted to showing the
past 30 days, even if you reopened General Ledger in the same GC session.

In 4.14, the default is only to show the past 30 (or 31?) days. But when
I set a filter to show everything from a particular date till today and
tick Save Filter, that filter _does_ persist, even if I close and reopen GC.

And there _is_ a way to turn the filter off once and for all: View »
Filter, select Show All, tick Save Filter, and click OK. I've tried that
just now, and it also persists through closing and reopening GC. There
are other options to select a number of days or a date range.

I don't have 5.x (waiting for 5.4's release), but II wouldn't think it
likely that General Journal filtering was re-broken in 5.x.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash as an Accounting Tutor

2023-09-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone

It was renamed at some point.

Indeed, saving the filter change now works as expected. Thanks!


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/10/23 12:35 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

On 2023-09-10 09:01, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

there is Tools > General Journal. (by default I think only the last 30
days, but you can change that with 'View > Filter by...' Sadly, there is
no way to turn off the filter by default, and it has to be reset each
time the General Journal is opened if desired.


Not quite sure what you mean here, Adrien.

In GC 2.x, General Journal was called General Ledger. The filter on
General Ledger would not persist, even if you ticked Save Filter.
Closing and reopening the General Ledger tab reverted to showing the
past 30 days, even if you reopened General Ledger in the same GC session.




In 4.14, the default is only to show the past 30 (or 31?) days. But when
I set a filter to show everything from a particular date till today and
tick Save Filter, that filter _does_ persist, even if I close and reopen GC.

And there _is_ a way to turn the filter off once and for all: View »
Filter, select Show All, tick Save Filter, and click OK. I've tried that
just now, and it also persists through closing and reopening GC. There
are other options to select a number of days or a date range.

I don't have 5.x (waiting for 5.4's release), but II wouldn't think it
likely that General Journal filtering was re-broken in 5.x.


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[GNC] Where are GC log files located on Mac with remote database server?

2023-09-10 Thread Jediator
Hi GC users, I am using GC (version 5.3) on Mac.  I noticed that the log 
files are generated in the same directory of the GC data file 
(sqlite3).  But I couldn't find the log files after switching to a 
remote database server.  The info on the GC wiki on logging seems to be 
outdated, as I can't find the logs nor the log.conf file on my Mac 
following the wiki instructions.  Thanks in advance! -- JC

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