Re: [GNC] Trying to build 4.13 on Ubuntu 22.10 with Ninja

2023-01-11 Thread david whiting
You might want to try the build script on this page
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu

I recently added a build script for ubuntu 22.10

This will pull in whatever is needed.

David

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023, 03:54 Michoel via gnucash-user, <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Im trying to install  4.13 on Ubuntu 22.10 with Ninja, but I am running
> into this error which I have tried to find an answer to, but to no avail:
>
> ninja
> [1/495] Generating
> ../../lib/x86_64-li.../site-ccache/tests/unittest-support.go
> FAILED:
> lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache/tests/unittest-support.go
> /home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache/tests/unittest-support.go
> cd /home/papa/gnucash-build/common/test-core && /usr/bin/cmake -E env
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib:/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/gnucash:
> GNC_UNINSTALLED=YES GNC_BUILDDIR=/home/papa/gnucash-build
> GUILE_LOAD_PATH=/home/papa/Desktop/gnucash-4.13/common/test-core:/home/papa/gnucash-build/common/test-core:/home/papa/gnucash-build/common/test-core/deprecated:/home/papa/gnucash-build/share/guile/site/3.0
> GUILE_LOAD_COMPILED_PATH=/home/papa/gnucash-build/common/test-core:/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache:/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache/gnucash/deprecated
> GNC_MODULE_PATH=/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib:/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/gnucash:
> /usr/bin/guile -e "(@@ (guild) main)" -s /usr/bin/guild compile -o
> /home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache/tests/unittest-support.go
> /home/papa/Desktop/gnucash-4.13/common/test-core/unittest-support.scm
> Backtrace:
> In /usr/bin/guild:
> 72:17 19 (main _)
> In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
> 634:9 18 (for-each # …)
> In scripts/compile.scm:
>279:27 17 (_ _)
> In system/base/target.scm:
>  65:6 16 (with-target _ _)
> In system/base/compile.scm:
> 187:6 15 (compile-file "/home/papa/Desktop/gnucash-4.13/common/…" …)
>  53:4 14 (call-with-output-file/atomic _ _ _)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>   1752:10 13 (with-exception-handler _ _ #:unwind? _ # _)
> In system/base/compile.scm:
> 69:11 12 (_)
>190:11 11 (_ #)
>331:39 10 (read-and-compile # # _ …)
>261:27  9 (_ _ _)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>2836:4  8 (save-module-excursion #)
> In language/scheme/compile-tree-il.scm:
> 31:16  7 (_)
> In ice-9/psyntax.scm:
>   1218:36  6 (expand-top-sequence (#) …)
>   1210:19  5 (parse _ (("placeholder" placeholder)) ((top) #(# # …)) …)
>259:10  4 (parse _ (("placeholder" placeholder)) ((top) #(# # …)) …)
> In unknown file:
>3 (load-extension "libtest-core-guile" "scm_init_unittest…")
> In system/foreign-library.scm:
>190:25  2 (load-foreign-library _ #:extensions _ # _ #:search-path …)
> In unknown file:
>1 (dlopen "libtest-core-guile.so" 1)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>   1685:16  0 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _)
>
> ice-9/boot-9.scm:1685:16: In procedure raise-exception:
> In procedure dlopen: file "libtest-core-guile.so", message
> "libtest-core-guile.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory"
> [10/495] Building C object
> gnucash/gno...nc-gnome.dir/Debug/gnc-budget-view.c.o  ..nc-gnome.dir/Debug/gnc-budget-view.c.o>
> ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.
>
> Thank you for any help you can provide.
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Re: [GNC] Billing terms / payment due x days from the end of the month

2023-01-11 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 02:51, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> If using the Business Features and raising Bills for that Vendor, then
> set up terms either in the Vendor, or per Bill. (there is a separate
> Terms editor)


Thank you. I found it was proximo that I needed.

Regards,
> Adrien


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Re: [GNC] ASSETS

2023-01-11 Thread davidbrown.rdps


Thank you Michael... 

david


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From: Michael or Penny Novack  
Sent: 10 January 2023 23:36
To: davidbrown.r...@photos.bozeat.biz; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] ASSETS

On 1/10/2023 11:24 AM, davidbrown.r...@photos.bozeat.biz wrote:
> Thank you Michael for your reply  it is a GNU question...  We are a small 
> club and a couple of assets were missed in the "brought forward balance" when 
> starting with this App a couple of years ago, so they are listed in the 
> balance sheet.  We haven't depreciated them as this is noted in our EoY.  It 
> acts as a list of equipment at he same time.
>
> When I put them in the Equipment A/c it does a CR and DR at the same time 
> which I don't want.  A single entry to increase the assets without having to 
> buy them.
>
> I need the GNU App to add a couple of items that are of value to be 
> represented at EoY.

David, it is an accounting question, not a gnucash question << you would have 
EXACTLY the same question were you still in the old days when I learned pen and 
ink on accounting ruled paper >>

You are (actually) asking "how do I add assets that were forgotten when the 
books were created?"

Correct, you are not (now) buying them. You are making what is misleadingly 
called a "journal entry". An entry affecting equity. They were in your original 
balance sheet (pre-gnucash) but were not entered THEN with a starting balance. 
So you do it now.

You create an asset account for these under "fixed assets" (create if you do 
not have). You can create this account with a zero balance. You presumably have 
an account "starting balance" under equity (if you used the wizard; entered 
accounts with starting balances when you created your gnucash books. But if you 
like, you can create another child of equity with a name like "corrections" << 
it is NOT unusual to have to deal with odd situations* >>

You now enter a transaction debiting "fixed assets" for these and crediting 
"corrections" with a description explaining the transaction.

Michael D Novack

* To give an example, an  uncorrectable bank error. One of my organizations 
paid an expense for an amount, let's say $100.30 The recipient deposited the 
check in his bank (where correctly credited $100.30). These days, the paper 
checks no longer flow back, just an electronic transaction bank to bank to 
bank. Somehow, it arrived at our bank as $100.00 so that is what was taken from 
the organization's account. What to do about that $0.30 OOB? Communication with 
the banks at both ends determined that the error was not correctable as neither 
of these banks made the error and the banks in the middle not known << I 
imagine had to been 30 million rather than 30 cents they would have done what 
was necessary to find out where >>

What to do? Well COULD have treated the error as "income". But a more sensible 
solution was a transaction between "bank account" and equity.




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Re: [GNC] Trying to build 4.13 on Ubuntu 22.10 with Ninja

2023-01-11 Thread Geert Janssens
There's a good chance this issue arises if you try to build gnucash on a system 
that already 
has an older version of gnucash installed via the system's package manager.

Regards,

Geert

Op woensdag 11 januari 2023 04:53:10 CET schreef Michoel via gnucash-user:
> Im trying to install  4.13 on Ubuntu 22.10 with Ninja, but I am running into
> this error which I have tried to find an answer to, but to no avail:
> 
> ninja
> [1/495] Generating
> ../../lib/x86_64-li.../site-ccache/tests/unittest-support.go FAILED:
> lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache/tests/unittest-support.go
> /home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache/tests/u
> nittest-support.go cd /home/papa/gnucash-build/common/test-core &&
> /usr/bin/cmake -E env
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib:/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/g
> nucash: GNC_UNINSTALLED=YES GNC_BUILDDIR=/home/papa/gnucash-build
> GUILE_LOAD_PATH=/home/papa/Desktop/gnucash-4.13/common/test-core:/home/papa
> /gnucash-build/common/test-core:/home/papa/gnucash-build/common/test-core/de
> precated:/home/papa/gnucash-build/share/guile/site/3.0
> GUILE_LOAD_COMPILED_PATH=/home/papa/gnucash-build/common/test-core:/home/pa
> pa/gnucash-build/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache:/home/papa/gnuca
> sh-build/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache/gnucash/deprecated
> GNC_MODULE_PATH=/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib:/home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/g
> nucash: /usr/bin/guile -e "(@@ (guild) main)" -s /usr/bin/guild compile -o
> /home/papa/gnucash-build/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/3.0/site-ccache/tests/u
> nittest-support.go
> /home/papa/Desktop/gnucash-4.13/common/test-core/unittest-support.scm
> Backtrace:
> In /usr/bin/guild:
> 72:17 19 (main _)
> In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
> 634:9 18 (for-each # …)
> In scripts/compile.scm:
>279:27 17 (_ _)
> In system/base/target.scm:
>  65:6 16 (with-target _ _)
> In system/base/compile.scm:
> 187:6 15 (compile-file "/home/papa/Desktop/gnucash-4.13/common/…" …)
>  53:4 14 (call-with-output-file/atomic _ _ _)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>   1752:10 13 (with-exception-handler _ _ #:unwind? _ # _)
> In system/base/compile.scm:
> 69:11 12 (_)
>190:11 11 (_ #)
>331:39 10 (read-and-compile # # _ …)
>261:27  9 (_ _ _)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>2836:4  8 (save-module-excursion #)
> In language/scheme/compile-tree-il.scm:
> 31:16  7 (_)
> In ice-9/psyntax.scm:
>   1218:36  6 (expand-top-sequence (#) …)
>   1210:19  5 (parse _ (("placeholder" placeholder)) ((top) #(# # …)) …)
>259:10  4 (parse _ (("placeholder" placeholder)) ((top) #(# # …)) …)
> In unknown file:
>3 (load-extension "libtest-core-guile" "scm_init_unittest…")
> In system/foreign-library.scm:
>190:25  2 (load-foreign-library _ #:extensions _ # _ #:search-path …)
> In unknown file:
>1 (dlopen "libtest-core-guile.so" 1)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>   1685:16  0 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _)
> 
> ice-9/boot-9.scm:1685:16: In procedure raise-exception:
> In procedure dlopen: file "libtest-core-guile.so", message
> "libtest-core-guile.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory" [10/495] Building C object
> gnucash/gno...nc-gnome.dir/Debug/gnc-budget-view.c.o
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.900 Released

2023-01-11 Thread jvernice
I see many references to GnuCash 4.900, but the website only has version
4.13 (Windows).  Am I missing something here?

Thank you All

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.900 Released

2023-01-11 Thread Steve Butler
This is an experimental pre-5.0 release.  4.13 is for everyday use until
5.0 comes out.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 13:11  wrote:

> I see many references to GnuCash 4.900, but the website only has version
> 4.13 (Windows).  Am I missing something here?
>
> Thank you All
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.900 Released

2023-01-11 Thread David H
Hi John and devs,

Thanks for the update.  I had a number of problems as per the following:-

System
---

Lenovo laptop, Intel i5, 8 Gb ram, Gnucash 4.13 / Finance Quote 1.54 / Win
10 Pro, Version 22H2, OS Build 19044.2486, Win32 strawberry-perl 5.32.1.1
#1 Sun Jan 24 12:17:47 2021 i386

Process


Installed 4.900 which auto uninstalled 4.13.
Started Gnucash 4.900 which displayed the "Tip of The Day" and then the
"Welcome to Gnucash" dialogs.
Unfortunately Gnucash 4.900 didn't seem to find my xml data file and the
Most Recent file list just displays "RecentFile0Action" (Function name?)
instead of the usual 2-3 file names.
Manually opened the last file used which is just a copy of my usual Gnucash
file, it opened fine and re-displayed all the tabs that were previously
open.
Got the message about the Budget amounts being fixed during the open
process.
It doesn't seem to be finding my saved report options - the report names
are included in the save report config list but no options and the Accounts
Selected has reverted to all accounts.
Get quotes is now not working - the button is simply greyed out.
Like Glenn I also can't turn off the Tip of the Day or the Display Welcome
Dialog Again? and on exiting and restarting Gnucash I repeatedly get
prompted to Create a new set of accounts / Import my QIF files / Open the
new user tutorial.

Also yesterday I happened to update and save Report Options for a saved
report configuration  and it seemed Gnucash crashed, repeating the process
today did NOT result in a crash.

Hope this helps and once again thanks to you and the other devs for all
your hard work on Gnucash.

Regards David H.






On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 15:03, John Ralls  wrote:

> The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.900, the first unstable
> release leading to GnuCash 5.0.
>
> This is an unstable release for testing purposes. Do not use it with
> production data! Make a copy of your book to test this release.
>
> New Features
>
> A new Stock Transaction Assistant to guide you through entering most
> investment transactions for stocks, bonds, and mutual funds. You can access
> it from Actions>Stock Assistant when you have the Accounts page ora Stock
> or Fund account register open.
> A new Investment Lots report showing a graph of capital gains and
> losses in a period by investment lot. Note that if you don't use the View
> Lots dialog to manage capital gains and losses this report won't have
> anything to show you. Use Reports>Assets & Liabilities>Investment Lots to
> see the report.
> A new tab on the New/Edit Account dialog called More Properties
> includes entries to set a high and low limit on an account. That's coupled
> to a new column that's available on the Accounts Page, Balance Limit. If
> you set a high or low limit and the account balance falls above or below
> the respective limit an indicator will be shown in the Balance Limit column.
> The description field quickfill in the register now displays a
> drop-down list of possible completions instead of just one inline
> completion.
> File import menu items for the MT940, MT942, and DTAUS formats is
> replaced with a single Import from AQBanking that supports importing any
> file format supported by AQBanking, including the frequently requested CAMT.
>
> Between 4.13 and 4.900, the following bugfixes were accomplished:
> The following fixes will also appear in GnuCash 4.14:
>
> Bug 798588 - sx scrubbing was using incorrect free function
> Bug 798625 - "Last up through report date" changed in 4.12
> Bug 798679 - Unicode normalization should be used for comparison but
> not stored.
> Bug 798702 - Crash in gnc_plugin_page_focus_idle_destroy() closing a
> report before it completes.
> Bug 798705 - New: UI string mismatch: OK vs. Next
> Bug 798717 - Reports > Business > Fancy Invoice duplicates company
> details
>
> The following additional bug fixes are in unstable only:
>
> Bug 403979 - Balance column shows only low order digits when too narrow
>
> If the column is too narrow to display the whole number it will
> display the leading digits with an ellipsis (…).
> Bug 769256 - Change New Account Dialog
>
> Rearrange the New and Edit Account dialog to move the parent selector
> under the description field followed by the account type as a combo (i.e.
> drop down) list.
>
> The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:
>
> Unicode normalization for string matches is changed from NFKC to NFC.
> This means that font and positional variants will no longer match and is
> unlikely to affect most users. See Unicode Normalization Forms:Canonical
> and Compatibility Equivalence for the technical details.
> The Gtk menu structure has been rewritten to use the newer
> GMenu/GMenuModel system. This change is mostly invisible to users, except
> that to keep menu accelerators (like Q to quit) working on macOS we
> had to let macOS handle 

[GNC] Recommended Method of Entry for IRA Distributions

2023-01-11 Thread Milton Stern
Hi,

What would be the recommended method of Entry for an IRA Distribution?

The Distribution is for a personal IRA (not Roth).
The IRA is of Mutual Funds.

The Mutual Fund is in Assets > Investments - Retirement > Brokerage > etc.
> etc.

Since this is taxable income, I need to track withholding (Federal) + Net
Distribution to a Checking Account (Assets > Current Assets).
No Commission fees are applicable, but it would be nice to know where/how
they would be tracked.

Thank you in advance,

Moshe
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Re: [GNC] Recommended Method of Entry for IRA Distributions

2023-01-11 Thread R Losey
Hello.

Assuming you take out $5,000 and they withhold 10% ($500), I would use a
split transaction... sell $5000 worth of the mutual fund, add $4500 to your
bank account, and $500 to federal income tax paid.

I apologize for not using "debit" and "credit" terms, but I'm not sure I'd
get them right.

You can track them however you wish, but the above is how I would do
them... well, except, I never have the mutual fund withhold taxes; I pay my
own taxes quarterly.


On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 4:35 PM Milton Stern  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What would be the recommended method of Entry for an IRA Distribution?
>
> The Distribution is for a personal IRA (not Roth).
> The IRA is of Mutual Funds.
>
> The Mutual Fund is in Assets > Investments - Retirement > Brokerage > etc.
> > etc.
>
> Since this is taxable income, I need to track withholding (Federal) + Net
> Distribution to a Checking Account (Assets > Current Assets).
> No Commission fees are applicable, but it would be nice to know where/how
> they would be tracked.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Moshe
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Re: [GNC] Recommended Method of Entry for IRA Distributions

2023-01-11 Thread Stan Brown
How would you do it in a pen-and-ink ledger? The answer is the same for
GnuCash.

So many people seem to be under the impression that GnuCash does
accounting ion its own special way. It's much more helpful, in my
opinion, to think of GnuCash as an automated version of the pen-and-ink
ledger methods that are taught in basic bookkeeping courses (or used to be).

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2023-01-11 14:35, Milton Stern wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What would be the recommended method of Entry for an IRA Distribution?
> 
> The Distribution is for a personal IRA (not Roth).
> The IRA is of Mutual Funds.
> 
> The Mutual Fund is in Assets > Investments - Retirement > Brokerage > etc.
>> etc.
> 
> Since this is taxable income, I need to track withholding (Federal) + Net
> Distribution to a Checking Account (Assets > Current Assets).
> No Commission fees are applicable, but it would be nice to know where/how
> they would be tracked.
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Re: [GNC] Recommended Method of Entry for IRA Distributions

2023-01-11 Thread Adrien Monteleone

For completeness and posterity, that would be:

Dr. Assets:Bank
Dr. Expenses:Tax
  Cr. Assets:Fund

If you're ever unsure as to what the 'formal' column labels would be, 
you can always toggle Preferences > Accounts > Labels > Use formal 
accounting labels while viewing a register in question. They toggle in 
the view as you toggle the preference. (you don't need to commit the 
preference first.)


Another easy to remember tip:

Debit is ALWAYS on the left
Credit is ALWAYS on the right

This coincides with the Accounting Equation:

Assets = Liabilities + Equity

and the expanded version:

Assets + Expenses = Liabilities + Retained Earnings + Income

Assets & Expenses (on the left of the '=') are increased via Debits 
(left column)


Liabilities, Retained Earnings (Equity), & Income (on the right of the 
'=') are increased via Credits (right column)


Because:

Debits = Credits

Hope that helps!

Regards,
Adrien

On 1/11/23 6:05 PM, R Losey wrote:

I apologize for not using "debit" and "credit" terms, but I'm not sure I'd
get them right.


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Re: [GNC] Recommended Method of Entry for IRA Distributions

2023-01-11 Thread Adrien Monteleone

+1

Regards,
Adrien

On 1/11/23 6:29 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

How would you do it in a pen-and-ink ledger? The answer is the same for
GnuCash.

So many people seem to be under the impression that GnuCash does
accounting ion its own special way. It's much more helpful, in my
opinion, to think of GnuCash as an automated version of the pen-and-ink
ledger methods that are taught in basic bookkeeping courses (or used to be).


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Re: [GNC] Recommended Method of Entry for IRA Distributions

2023-01-11 Thread Milton Stern
Hi,

Please see below 

Moshe

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 7:06 PM R Losey  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Assuming you take out $5,000 and they withhold 10% ($500), I would use a
> split transaction... sell $5000 worth of the mutual fund, add $4500 to your
> bank account, and $500 to federal income tax paid.
>

> I apologize for not using "debit" and "credit" terms, but I'm not sure I'd
> get them right.
>

 Agreed. The component that I am having trouble with is the Pre-Tax
IRA Distribution component. Because it is a Pre-Tax IRA, the distribution
is taxable as income.
The direct "sell $5000 worth of the mutual fund, add $4500 to your
bank account" direct transaction will not show up in Income Reports.


>
> You can track them however you wish, but the above is how I would do
> them... well, except, I never have the mutual fund withhold taxes; I pay my
> own taxes quarterly.
>

** New for 2023. IRS requires the brokerage to withhold taxes from IRA
Distributions. Last year you could specify 0% withholding.
** They don't make it so easy this year. It is sort of a double hit.
Even if you get it back as a tax refund, you can't put it back (Rollover)
into the IRA to earn tax free.


>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 4:35 PM Milton Stern  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What would be the recommended method of Entry for an IRA Distribution?
>>
>> The Distribution is for a personal IRA (not Roth).
>> The IRA is of Mutual Funds.
>>
>> The Mutual Fund is in Assets > Investments - Retirement > Brokerage > etc.
>> > etc.
>>
>> Since this is taxable income, I need to track withholding (Federal) + Net
>> Distribution to a Checking Account (Assets > Current Assets).
>> No Commission fees are applicable, but it would be nice to know where/how
>> they would be tracked.
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Moshe
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Re: [GNC] Sort order not being maintained

2023-01-11 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Oddly, after an unrelated crash, upon restarting GnuCash, the sort order 
was back to what I had tested, rather than what I had last used. I had 
to change the order again with the 'save' preference checkbox, exit 
GnuCash cleanly, then re-open for it to stick. (so far)


I suppose I shouldn't expect such prefs to persist after a crash...

Regards,
Adrien

On 1/6/23 9:28 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

I just tested using 4.13 on Mac. It works properly there.

I tested closing the register I sorted, then re-opening.
I then tested closing GnuCash and re-opening.

In both cases, the sort order was retained. (I tested with your options 
of Date, Reverse, & Save)


Try 4.13?

Regards,
Adrien

On 1/6/23 8:46 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

I'm running GnuCash 4.12 on both linux and Windoze - mainly on Windoze
laptop, as my desktop PC uses 200 W of power when idle, plus whatever the
monitor uses.

I keep sorting the bank account, or other accounts, but the sort order
keeps being lost, despite me ticking the box to keep the sort order. See
attachment.

Is there anyway I can set this sort order for every account once and 
forget

it?


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Re: [GNC] Recommended Method of Entry for IRA Distributions

2023-01-11 Thread David Carlson
You probably noticed that the answers here lead to multi account splits
that resemble a simplified paycheck transaction.
If it happens that you are also tracking the qualified account details in a
brokerage account, possibly even with variations for traditional accounts
vs Roth accounts you may need to include extra accounts to make it easier
to track tax status, which is not discussed here.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 6:35 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> +1
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 1/11/23 6:29 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> > How would you do it in a pen-and-ink ledger? The answer is the same for
> > GnuCash.
> >
> > So many people seem to be under the impression that GnuCash does
> > accounting ion its own special way. It's much more helpful, in my
> > opinion, to think of GnuCash as an automated version of the pen-and-ink
> > ledger methods that are taught in basic bookkeeping courses (or used to
> be).
>
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Re: [GNC] Sort order not being maintained

2023-01-11 Thread David Carlson
I think that register sort order, register window size/column widths,
memorized reports, open report window details and memorized CSV import
settings all only get saved when doing a manual program Quit, but not when
dining a File Save or when the program crashes.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:28 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Oddly, after an unrelated crash, upon restarting GnuCash, the sort order
> was back to what I had tested, rather than what I had last used. I had
> to change the order again with the 'save' preference checkbox, exit
> GnuCash cleanly, then re-open for it to stick. (so far)
>
> I suppose I shouldn't expect such prefs to persist after a crash...
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 1/6/23 9:28 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > I just tested using 4.13 on Mac. It works properly there.
> >
> > I tested closing the register I sorted, then re-opening.
> > I then tested closing GnuCash and re-opening.
> >
> > In both cases, the sort order was retained. (I tested with your options
> > of Date, Reverse, & Save)
> >
> > Try 4.13?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 1/6/23 8:46 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> >> I'm running GnuCash 4.12 on both linux and Windoze - mainly on Windoze
> >> laptop, as my desktop PC uses 200 W of power when idle, plus whatever
> the
> >> monitor uses.
> >>
> >> I keep sorting the bank account, or other accounts, but the sort order
> >> keeps being lost, despite me ticking the box to keep the sort order. See
> >> attachment.
> >>
> >> Is there anyway I can set this sort order for every account once and
> >> forget
> >> it?
>
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.900 Released

2023-01-11 Thread Fred Tydeman
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:02 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.900, the first unstable
> release leading to GnuCash 5.0.
>
GnuCash is also available as a flatpak from Flathub.org. Instructions for
> installing and running may be found at
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak.
>

 As a regular user, I tried the instructions to install either the beta
or the production GnuCash.  Both failed.  I am doing cut and paste from:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak

[tydeman@x1car2 ~]$ flatpak remote-add --user --if-not-exists flathub
https://flathub.org/beta-repo/flathub-beta.flatpakrepo
[tydeman@x1car2 ~]$ flatpak install --user flathub-beta org.gnucash.GnuCash
Looking for matches…
error: No remote refs found for ‘flathub-beta’
[tydeman@x1car2 ~]$ flatpak remote-add --user --if-not-exists flathub
https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
[tydeman@x1car2 ~]$ flatpak install --user flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash
Looking for matches…
error: The application org.gnucash.GnuCash/x86_64/beta requires the runtime
org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/43 which was not found

If I try to do the install as 'su', after the above error, I get a prompt
to install gnome
(about 1000 meg of data).
Since I do not know where it will put that data, nor how to override, I
declined.
Sorry, I will not be able to test the beta.
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Re: [GNC] Recommended Method of Entry for IRA Distributions

2023-01-11 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Moshe,

This issue has come up many times over the years, for the very reason you 
raised: a direct transfer from the IRA asset account to your Checking at 
account won't show as income in reports. 

The best way I've seen for how to handle this requires that your initial pay 
records isolate the income you diverted to the IRA account. Technically, the 
income you sent to the IRA is separate, and should be categorized as "deferred 
income." 

In my books, that's meant that my paycheck entries have separate lines for the 
income that was sent to the IRA. So if I have a paycheck for $1,000, and send 
$50 to the IRA, the entry was:

Income:W2 $950 -> Checking
Income:IRA   $50 -> IRA Asset 

(Note that this will match your W-2 at the time) 

When you take the distribution, you create one transaction for the transfer 
from the IRA to Checking, but then you create an extra transaction (or extra 
splits, if you prefer), which transfers the distribution amount from Income:IRA 
to Income:Retirement Distributions. This second account should be assigned as a 
taxable account. Then it will appear on the TXf report. You can also select 
just that account on income statements. 

⁣David T. ​

On Jan 12, 2023, 6:53 AM, at 6:53 AM, Milton Stern  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Please see below 
>
>Moshe
>
>On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 7:06 PM R Losey  wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> Assuming you take out $5,000 and they withhold 10% ($500), I would
>use a
>> split transaction... sell $5000 worth of the mutual fund, add $4500
>to your
>> bank account, and $500 to federal income tax paid.
>>
>
>> I apologize for not using "debit" and "credit" terms, but I'm not
>sure I'd
>> get them right.
>>
>
> Agreed. The component that I am having trouble with is the
>Pre-Tax
>IRA Distribution component. Because it is a Pre-Tax IRA, the
>distribution
>is taxable as income.
>The direct "sell $5000 worth of the mutual fund, add $4500 to
>your
>bank account" direct transaction will not show up in Income Reports.
>
>
>>
>> You can track them however you wish, but the above is how I would do
>> them... well, except, I never have the mutual fund withhold taxes; I
>pay my
>> own taxes quarterly.
>>
>
>** New for 2023. IRS requires the brokerage to withhold taxes from
>IRA
>Distributions. Last year you could specify 0% withholding.
>** They don't make it so easy this year. It is sort of a double
>hit.
>Even if you get it back as a tax refund, you can't put it back
>(Rollover)
>into the IRA to earn tax free.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 4:35 PM Milton Stern 
>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What would be the recommended method of Entry for an IRA
>Distribution?
>>>
>>> The Distribution is for a personal IRA (not Roth).
>>> The IRA is of Mutual Funds.
>>>
>>> The Mutual Fund is in Assets > Investments - Retirement > Brokerage
>> etc.
>>> > etc.
>>>
>>> Since this is taxable income, I need to track withholding (Federal)
>+ Net
>>> Distribution to a Checking Account (Assets > Current Assets).
>>> No Commission fees are applicable, but it would be nice to know
>where/how
>>> they would be tracked.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>> Moshe
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>>
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>> rlo...@gmail.com
>> Micah 6:8
>>
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.900 Released

2023-01-11 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger

Hi Fred,

Am 12.01.23 um 07:16 schrieb Fred Tydeman:

Since I do not know where it will put that data, nor how to override, I
declined.


with the option --user it seems to install in my case below
/home/frank/.local/share/flatpak/runtime/

HTH
Frank
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