[GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest macOS Ventura? It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull ot hit the text inside buttons. /Christian ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
Hi Christian, Yes I've been noticing similar behaviour - have to click 2x in popups, cursor turns into a short horizontal line with an arrow at each end. Thought it was just something my system - 2018 Intel MacBook Pro running Gnucash 4.12. Cheers David H. On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 18:55, Christian Lynbech wrote: > Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest > macOS Ventura? > > It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not > update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull > ot hit the text inside buttons. > >/Christian > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
I have the same behaviour both on my 2019 Intel 5k iMac and my 2021 M1 MacBook Pro (both running Ventura 13.0.1). /Christian --- On Mon, Nov 14 2022, David H wrote: Hi Christian, Yes I've been noticing similar behaviour - have to click 2x in popups, cursor turns into a short horizontal line with an arrow at each end. Thought it was just something my system - 2018 Intel MacBook Pro running Gnucash 4.12. Cheers David H. On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 18:55, Christian Lynbech wrote: Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest macOS Ventura? It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull ot hit the text inside buttons. /Christian ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
I'm forever locked on Monterey so I can't test, and I don't see that problem with GnuCash, but, I do see it running Firefox on Monterey and Win10, and I get it all over the UI in *buntu based VMs starting with the 22.04 release. I don't know if Firefox uses GTK+ code, but if so (and considering GnuCash & the *buntu distros I tried do so as well) then I'd say it is possibly a GTK bug, not GnuCash. Regards, Adrien On 11/14/22 2:54 AM, Christian Lynbech wrote: Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest macOS Ventura? It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull ot hit the text inside buttons. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
I can’t get the Find Account to work using Ventura Sent from my iPhone XS > On Nov 14, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > I'm forever locked on Monterey so I can't test, and I don't see that problem > with GnuCash, but, I do see it running Firefox on Monterey and Win10, and I > get it all over the UI in *buntu based VMs starting with the 22.04 release. > > I don't know if Firefox uses GTK+ code, but if so (and considering GnuCash & > the *buntu distros I tried do so as well) then I'd say it is possibly a GTK > bug, not GnuCash. > > Regards, > Adrien > >> On 11/14/22 2:54 AM, Christian Lynbech wrote: >> Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest >> macOS Ventura? >> It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not >> update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull >> ot hit the text inside buttons. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
What specifically do you mean by 'work'? Does the window not open at all? Are you using the Edit menu option, or the keyboard shortcut? If the window opens, does it just not find an account you know exists? Regards, Adrien On 11/14/22 9:58 AM, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user wrote: I can’t get the Find Account to work using Ventura ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
I go to Edit>Find Account and the search window opens. I type in a known account . It shows that account but when I click to open it, the last account I had open reappears. Sent from my iPhone XS > On Nov 14, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > What specifically do you mean by 'work'? > > Does the window not open at all? > > Are you using the Edit menu option, or the keyboard shortcut? > > If the window opens, does it just not find an account you know exists? > > Regards, > Adrien > >> On 11/14/22 9:58 AM, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user wrote: >> I can’t get the Find Account to work using Ventura > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
It should not open any account. It should show you in the Accounts tab where in the tree, that account exists, with it highlighted. Then you double click or choose Open on the toolbar to open that account register. Odd that it is opening any account at all from the Find window. Regards, Adrien On 11/14/22 12:09 PM, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user wrote: I go to Edit>Find Account and the search window opens. I type in a known account . It shows that account but when I click to open it, the last account I had open reappears. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
My mistake. I does not open the account it just brings up the account name then I click to open. Sent from my iPhone XS > On Nov 14, 2022, at 1:37 PM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > It should not open any account. It should show you in the Accounts tab where > in the tree, that account exists, with it highlighted. Then you double click > or choose Open on the toolbar to open that account register. Odd that it is > opening any account at all from the Find window. > > Regards, > Adrien > >> On 11/14/22 12:09 PM, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user wrote: >> I go to Edit>Find Account and the search window opens. I type in a known >> account . It shows that account but when I click to open it, the last >> account I had open reappears. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
That is very odd indeed as now this isn't necessarily a Find Account problem as it is an Accounts Tab problem. Does this only happen after doing Find Account? Now that you know where the account is, can you open it without doing a Find Account first? Regards, Adrien On 11/14/22 12:41 PM, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user wrote: My mistake. I does not open the account it just brings up the account name then I click to open. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
It is indeed a Gtk bug, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5305#note_1592320. Regards, John Ralls > On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:50 AM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > I'm forever locked on Monterey so I can't test, and I don't see that problem > with GnuCash, but, I do see it running Firefox on Monterey and Win10, and I > get it all over the UI in *buntu based VMs starting with the 22.04 release. > > I don't know if Firefox uses GTK+ code, but if so (and considering GnuCash & > the *buntu distros I tried do so as well) then I'd say it is possibly a GTK > bug, not GnuCash. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 11/14/22 2:54 AM, Christian Lynbech wrote: >> Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest >> macOS Ventura? >> It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not >> update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull >> ot hit the text inside buttons. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Find account on macOS Ventura
Find account works as expected for me on Ventura. Perhaps Alan can describe step-by-step what he's doing, what he expects at each step, and what actually happens. Regards, John Ralls > On Nov 14, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > That is very odd indeed as now this isn't necessarily a Find Account problem > as it is an Accounts Tab problem. > > Does this only happen after doing Find Account? > > Now that you know where the account is, can you open it without doing a Find > Account first? > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 11/14/22 12:41 PM, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user wrote: >> My mistake. I does not open the account it just brings up the account name >> then I click to open. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
What is the recommended account setup and procedure to track travel expenses (and refund of these) when I use my personal accounts (cash/credit card) to pay these? I don't want the travel expenses to mix with my regular "monthly" expenses, although I'd like to split them into different categories (food, gas, hotel, etc.). Thanks! Esteban A. Maringolo ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
back when I was travelling for business I set up accounts to match the expense forms that my company used. On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 2:10 PM Esteban Maringolo wrote: > What is the recommended account setup and procedure to track > travel expenses (and refund of these) when I use my personal accounts > (cash/credit card) to pay these? > > I don't want the travel expenses to mix with my regular "monthly" expenses, > although I'd like to split them into different categories (food, gas, > hotel, etc.). > > Thanks! > > Esteban A. Maringolo > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
hi Esteban when setting up, select common account and it should satisfy your basic requirements. if needed you can make amendments [cid:e6543eaf-d2c3-409f-a01f-c88292948f64] Saludos Cordiales Murugan From: gnucash-user on behalf of Esteban Maringolo Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 5:08 PM To: GNUCash User Mailing List Subject: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses What is the recommended account setup and procedure to track travel expenses (and refund of these) when I use my personal accounts (cash/credit card) to pay these? I don't want the travel expenses to mix with my regular "monthly" expenses, although I'd like to split them into different categories (food, gas, hotel, etc.). Thanks! Esteban A. Maringolo ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
I'm not sure there is a 'recommended' method. (and that would be an 'accounting' question anyway) However, I have the following in my account tree: Expenses: -Entertainment: -Travel: -Food -Lodging -Transportation That way I can keep those separate from my 'everyday' expenses that are similar. My chart of accounts has turned more into a 'purpose' driven model than a 'categorization' model. When/if reporting becomes more flexible, this may change and I may consolidate some accounts again and resort to tagging. Regards, Adrien On 11/14/22 2:08 PM, Esteban Maringolo wrote: What is the recommended account setup and procedure to track travel expenses (and refund of these) when I use my personal accounts (cash/credit card) to pay these? I don't want the travel expenses to mix with my regular "monthly" expenses, although I'd like to split them into different categories (food, gas, hotel, etc.). ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
Hi, Esteban! I assume these travel expenses are going to be reimbursed by your employer. In effect, you're making a loan to your employer, which creates an account receivable. This is an asset account, not an expense, so it is kept completely separate from your own expenses. The simplest solution is to set up an account receivable, "Assets:Accounts Receivable:Due from Employer" or similar.(*) Then when you buy let's say airline tickets for an employer-required trip, Debit: Due from Employer Credit:(whichever credit card you used When your employer reimburses you, it's Debit: Cash and Checking Accounts Credit:Due from Employer (*) If you don't have any other accounts receivable, you can skip the intermediate level and just create Assets:Due from Employer. I assume your employer has some sort of form that you fill out for reimbursement. While you _could_ complicate the above scheme to generate reports for that form, in my opinion it's less work overall to just write the expenses on your employer's form when they happen, and separately record them in GC. Where the simple scheme above will definitely help is at income tax time. You'll be able to show that X amount of money received from your employer was a non-taxable reimbursement for expenses, not a taxable payment of salary. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com On 2022-11-14 12:08, Esteban Maringolo wrote: > What is the recommended account setup and procedure to track > travel expenses (and refund of these) when I use my personal accounts > (cash/credit card) to pay these? > > I don't want the travel expenses to mix with my regular "monthly" expenses, > although I'd like to split them into different categories (food, gas, > hotel, etc.). ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
Esteban, These expenses are not expenses to you as they are reimbursable. You could set up an asset account (similar to an accounts receivable account (with sub- accounts for the various expense categories) which you would debit when the expenses are incurred instead of an expense account you would normally make the debit entry to with the second split of the transaction being the corresponding credit to your credit card account. On receipt of the reimbursement then that account(or appropriate sub account) would be be credited with the corresponding split to your bank account. David Cousens On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 17:08 -0300, Esteban Maringolo wrote: > What is the recommended account setup and procedure to track > travel expenses (and refund of these) when I use my personal accounts > (cash/credit card) to pay these? > > I don't want the travel expenses to mix with my regular "monthly" expenses, > although I'd like to split them into different categories (food, gas, > hotel, etc.). > > Thanks! > > Esteban A. Maringolo > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
I can find the account and open it but I've to sort through the listings of all the accounts > On 14 Nov 2022, at 1:46 pm, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > That is very odd indeed as now this isn't necessarily a Find Account problem > as it is an Accounts Tab problem. > > Does this only happen after doing Find Account? > > Now that you know where the account is, can you open it without doing a Find > Account first? > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 11/14/22 12:41 PM, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user wrote: >> My mistake. I does not open the account it just brings up the account name >> then I click to open. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
On 11/14/2022 4:36 PM, Stan Brown wrote: Hi, Esteban! I assume these travel expenses are going to be reimbursed by your employer. In effect, you're making a loan to your employer, which creates an account receivable. This is an asset account, not an expense, so it is kept completely separate from your own expenses. Yes would be under assets. But we are discussing personal books, not books of a business (accrual basis so can use business features like invoicing). Probably no "accounts receivable". If new to gnucash, keep in mind that the examples in the tutorial s=were simple, not including all the possibilities. There can be other sorts of asset accounts besides "current assets" and "fixed assets". Like money you have loaned out. But this is a special sort of loan, and I'd give it a name making that clear like "pending reimbursements" (the parent) and under it you could have child accounts for the "expense" categories << they are of type asset, not expense, because not YOUR expenses >> IF (as is likely) you receive reimbursement as the total of what you submitted, don't make that parent a placeholder. Then you can credit IT for the total. Michael F Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2022-November/103481.html Stan, that's well explained and tracking travel expenses is a common enough situation that would be a worthwhile example in the documentation. A brief explanation of the accounting makes all the difference. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
On 2022-11-14 14:36, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > > Yes would be under assets. But we are discussing personal books, not > books of a business (accrual basis so can use business features like > invoicing). Probably no "accounts receivable". You do not need to issue invoices or use other business features to have accounts receivable. I recorded my employer expense account as an account receivable in my personal books, and it worked just fine. You will note that I did however specifically make the point that the OP could skip the "Accounts Receivable" name and level and just make the expense account a top-level asset if he wished. (I _did_ use the name and level Accounts Receivable, since I also had other amounts owing to me, such as health insurance reimbursements and various merchandise rebates.) Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
Thank you! I don't know how to update documentation, and don't have time to learn just now. But if you'd like to use what I wrote for that purpose (possibly modified), you have my blessing. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com On 2022-11-14 14:56, flywire wrote: > https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2022-November/103481.html > > Stan, that's well explained and tracking travel expenses is a common enough > situation that would be a worthwhile example in the documentation. A brief > explanation of the accounting makes all the difference. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] compiled 4.12 get white background instead of green ruled. Also printable invoice is shown small scale.
This was compiled from the 4.12 tar.bz2 after checking the sha256sum on linux mint 21 with guile 3.0. I tried this compiling since the 4.12 flatpak is not showing printable invoice at all after a mint update. I ran ninja check and all passed. Any ideas on missing dependencies or bugs in library updates apreciated. The green rules like paper accounting ledgers from 1960 are so familiar it makes me pause and slows down looking at the books not having them. -- John ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
Thanks for that update. I think I'll hold off on doing the update for the time being. On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 1:06 PM john wrote: > It is indeed a Gtk bug, > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5305#note_1592320. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > > On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:50 AM, Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > > I'm forever locked on Monterey so I can't test, and I don't see that > problem with GnuCash, but, I do see it running Firefox on Monterey and > Win10, and I get it all over the UI in *buntu based VMs starting with the > 22.04 release. > > > > I don't know if Firefox uses GTK+ code, but if so (and considering > GnuCash & the *buntu distros I tried do so as well) then I'd say it is > possibly a GTK bug, not GnuCash. > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 11/14/22 2:54 AM, Christian Lynbech wrote: > >> Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest > >> macOS Ventura? > >> It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not > >> update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull > >> ot hit the text inside buttons. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
Christian, Are your running 4-12.1 or 4-12.2 I am running 4-12.1 (Build ID: 4.12+(2022-09-24)) on MacOS Ventura 13.0.1 (22A400) with no problems. I have 4-12.2 installed as well but I haven't switched to it. Will On Nov 14, 2022, at 17:56, R Losey wrote: Thanks for that update. I think I'll hold off on doing the update for the time being. On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 1:06 PM john wrote: > It is indeed a Gtk bug, > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5305#note_1592320. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > >> On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:50 AM, Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: >> >> I'm forever locked on Monterey so I can't test, and I don't see that > problem with GnuCash, but, I do see it running Firefox on Monterey and > Win10, and I get it all over the UI in *buntu based VMs starting with the > 22.04 release. >> >> I don't know if Firefox uses GTK+ code, but if so (and considering > GnuCash & the *buntu distros I tried do so as well) then I'd say it is > possibly a GTK bug, not GnuCash. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >> On 11/14/22 2:54 AM, Christian Lynbech wrote: >>> Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest >>> macOS Ventura? >>> It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not >>> update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull >>> ot hit the text inside buttons. >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
I am running the same as you are on an M1 MacBook Pro Sent from my iPhone XS > On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:07 PM, William Prescott wrote: > > Christian, > > Are your running 4-12.1 or 4-12.2 > > I am running 4-12.1 (Build ID: 4.12+(2022-09-24)) on MacOS Ventura 13.0.1 > (22A400) with no problems. I have 4-12.2 installed as well but I haven't > switched to it. > > Will > > On Nov 14, 2022, at 17:56, R Losey wrote: > > Thanks for that update. > > I think I'll hold off on doing the update for the time being. > > >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 1:06 PM john wrote: >> >> It is indeed a Gtk bug, >> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5305#note_1592320. >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls >> >> >>> On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:50 AM, Adrien Monteleone < >> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: >>> >>> I'm forever locked on Monterey so I can't test, and I don't see that >> problem with GnuCash, but, I do see it running Firefox on Monterey and >> Win10, and I get it all over the UI in *buntu based VMs starting with the >> 22.04 release. >>> >>> I don't know if Firefox uses GTK+ code, but if so (and considering >> GnuCash & the *buntu distros I tried do so as well) then I'd say it is >> possibly a GTK bug, not GnuCash. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Adrien >>> >>> On 11/14/22 2:54 AM, Christian Lynbech wrote: Anybody here who has experience running Gnucash (4.12) on the newest macOS Ventura? It basically works, but the UI is a bit wonky. The cursor does not update correctly, sometimes you need to click twice or be very carefull ot hit the text inside buttons. >>> >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > _ > Richard Losey > rlo...@gmail.com > Micah 6:8 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
Ah, I missed the part about reimbursements. I cover that too in my chart with Assets:Current Assets:Reimbursements and then sub accounts for each person/entity that I get reimbursed from. (or that I reimburse) Technically, the latter could be considered a liability, but since the balance might go either way with some people at different times, I just keep them all under Assets and pay attention to 'normal' or 'reverse' balances. The part of my tree about travel is strictly my own expenses - not on behalf of someone else. Regards, Adrien On 11/14/22 2:27 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I'm not sure there is a 'recommended' method. (and that would be an 'accounting' question anyway) However, I have the following in my account tree: Expenses: -Entertainment: -Travel: -Food -Lodging -Transportation That way I can keep those separate from my 'everyday' expenses that are similar. My chart of accounts has turned more into a 'purpose' driven model than a 'categorization' model. When/if reporting becomes more flexible, this may change and I may consolidate some accounts again and resort to tagging. Regards, Adrien On 11/14/22 2:08 PM, Esteban Maringolo wrote: What is the recommended account setup and procedure to track travel expenses (and refund of these) when I use my personal accounts (cash/credit card) to pay these? I don't want the travel expenses to mix with my regular "monthly" expenses, although I'd like to split them into different categories (food, gas, hotel, etc.). ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Tracking Travel expenses
On 11/14/2022 5:59 PM, Stan Brown wrote: On 2022-11-14 14:36, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: Yes would be under assets. But we are discussing personal books, not books of a business (accrual basis so can use business features like invoicing). Probably no "accounts receivable". You do not need to issue invoices or use other business features to have accounts receivable. I recorded my employer expense account as an account receivable in my personal books, and it worked just fine. Perhaps we should not be going to this level of accounting (and as "amateurs", for personal books, we can do pretty much what we want. But "accounts receivable" has a particular meaning in business aside from having "invoices" to justify what is there. It is "merchantable" (the business that issued you that invoice can sell or pledge as collateral "receivables") look up the meaning of "factoring" (in business) You ordinarily could not do that with pending reimbursements from your employer, insurance company, etc. That's why I suggested a top level "pending reimbursements" under assets. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Split Credit card transaction w/ two currencies
On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 5:49 PM Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > Hello, Fred: > > On 2022-11-12 14:04, Fred Tydeman wrote: > > In a credit card account, when I enter a split transaction > > that has part of the charge be in USD and the other part > > in COP (Colombia Pesos), I am getting bad results in the > > COP account. While I get a popup asking about the > > exchange rate, the results are wrong in the COP account. > > > > The parts are: > > 26.63 Liabilities:Credit Cards:visa == total charge > > 14.78 Expenses:meals == mine > > 11.85 Assets:Investments:$colombia => 50,000 COP == theirs > > > > There are 4219.41 COP per 1 USD on that date. > > So the way I navigate this difficult UI is: enter what I think is the > correct number in the transaction's split (maybe 11.85 USD), let the > foreign exchange dialogue appear, in the lower part of the dialogue > enter the other cash amount (maybe 50,000 COP), then look just above > that at the dialogue's calculated exchange rates. If the exchange rates > are approximately right, I got the choice of numbers right. If the > exchange rates are wildly wrong, then I got the choice of numbers > backwards. > I have tried it several ways now and all end up wrong. Doing what you suggest above is what I first did (as it makes the most sense). In credit card account, I type a charge of 26.63 against Expense:meals. I click on Split I type 14.78 on the Expense:meals line and press Tab. In the 11.85 line, I type $col and pick Assets:Investments:$colombia from the popup. When I press Enter, I get a popup about Transfer Funds I click on To Amount at bottom of popup I see to right of data entry box: 1 USD = 3809 COP [3809... was the latest conversion rate in the COP price database] I type -5 and press OK at bottom right. That gets me wrong data in the various splits. A different way: In credit card account, I type a charge of 26.63 against Expense:meals. I click on Split I type 14.78 on the Expense:meals line and press Tab. In the 11.85 line, I type $col and pick Assets:Investments:$colombia from the popup. When I press Enter, I get a popup about Transfer Funds In the Exchange rate box, I type: 11.85/5 and press tab That shows me 1 USD = 4219 COP When I click OK, I am back in the split transaction which now has an Imbalance-USD of 11.85 split If I Jump to the $solombia account, it shows Receive of 11.85 (instead of the expected 5) If I look at the Price Database, it shows a price of 0.00 for COP. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] compiled 4.12 get white background instead of green ruled. Also printable invoice is shown small scale.
> On Nov 14, 2022, at 3:40 PM, John Griessen wrote: > > This was compiled from the 4.12 tar.bz2 after checking the sha256sum on linux > mint 21 with guile 3.0. > > I tried this compiling since the 4.12 flatpak is not showing printable > invoice at all after a mint update. > > I ran ninja check and all passed. > > Any ideas on missing dependencies or bugs in library updates apreciated. > > The green rules like paper accounting ledgers from 1960 are so familiar it > makes me pause and slows down looking at the books not having them. There's a preference on the Register tab under Graphics, Use GnuCash built-in color theme that enables the green-bar look in the Register. See if that's gotten unchecked. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
> On Nov 14, 2022, at 4:07 PM, William Prescott wrote: > > I have 4-12.2 installed as wel That's interesting since I haven't built a 4.12-2 and MacPorts is still on 4.11. Are you sure you don't have GnuCash-Intel-4.12-1(2).dmg, which would just be another download of 4.12-1? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash on macOS Ventura
John, You are correct. I set up a folder for 4.12-2 but it is empty. I just assumed I had a new release there. My mistake. Will On Nov 14, 2022, at 21:35, john wrote: > On Nov 14, 2022, at 4:07 PM, William Prescott wrote: > > I have 4-12.2 installed as wel That's interesting since I haven't built a 4.12-2 and MacPorts is still on 4.11. Are you sure you don't have GnuCash-Intel-4.12-1(2).dmg, which would just be another download of 4.12-1? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
