Re: [GNC] Am I in business?
It will depend on your email client Arthur. I usually filter on gnucash which picks up gnucash in the list address and seems to work fairly well. It your email client also has a group by thread option this makes it easier to follow conversations. David Cousens On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 01:18 +, arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote: > You're right. I get just as many individual emails addressed to me either > way, don't I? > > But what do I use for the filter? Can't be 'from' if I want to catch both for > they differ. Can't be 'subject' for that differs. > > > > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022, 10:33:16 am ACST, Derek Atkins > wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, May 17, 2022 7:07 pm, arthur brogard wrote: > > Hello and thankyou. > > I'm 'replying to all' in response to your direct email I just got here. > > Great. > > Hope I'm doing it right. > > So it seems to me I should run two accounts with the list. Because I like > > to see what's being discussed at the same time as I don't like the hassle > > of responding to those who respond to me in the hassly way we have to do > > it when using the digests. > > So I can have the digests to open and peruse whenever I feel like it, no > > hurry. > > And I can be running a normal email - email thread about my queries at the > > same time in the second account. > > That'd be alright, I guess? > > Yes, you could subscribe twice (with two addresses). Although I don't > really see the point of doing that. You might as well just tell your > email client to file all the gnucash email into its own folder and then > you can peruse the subjects that way instead of using a digest AND > individual emails. Because you still need to *find* the individual email > to reply to... > > But hey, whatever works for you. > > -derek > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Startup issue - two windows
In the Gnome desktop and, I think, most other Linux desktops, using Alt-Tab, Super-Tab or just the Super key alone gives a means to navigate around all the open windows on your computer. I only have one display monitor active, so I am not sure how that behavior is modified for multi-display users. On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 6:13 PM Tommy Trussell wrote: > I'm not the original poster, but I have had the focus issue with GnuCash > for awhile now, maybe six months? I run the latest Flatpak release version > of GnuCash (currently 4.10+) on Ubuntu 21.10. Fortunately I DON'T usually > run GnuCash full screen, and my primary system has two sizable monitors. > When the dialog in back keeps me from proceeding, I have been able to scoot > the windows around (such as onto the other monitor) so that I can get to > whichever window is blocking the startup. But it's an annoyance. > > I have not kept track of when, but it only happens maybe once every few > application launches; not every time. I suspect it must have to do with > some specific circumstance with the "since last run" dialog, maybe only > when it has automatically created a scheduled transaction? (Very few of MY > scheduled transactions create completely automatically -- most of mine > require some editing, such as the transaction amount, so I almost always > review them once created.) I also keep nine separate GnuCash book files for > different entities I manage, so it's likely it only affects one I don't > open every day. > > Next time it happens I will make a note of the circumstances as best I can > and try to report back here. If someone has opened a bug, let me know so I > can subscribe to it. > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 1:06 PM Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > What distro and version? > > > > What version of GnuCash? > > > > Does exiting full screen help? > > > > Does not starting in full screen help? > > > > Are you using a second display, or have you used a second display, in > > between the time it worked fine and this problem appeared? (a window > > might be appearing on a 'ghost' display that is taking priority.) > > > > If you can get to the GnuCash main window and it is responsive, go to > > Preferences > Scheduled Transactions > Since Last Run and uncheck the > > option to 'Run when data file opened' and restart GnuCash to see if that > > helps. (this shouldn't be a problem, but doing this will help narrow > > down the issue - hopefully) > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 5/13/22 12:38 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote: > > > The laptop display is 1920x1080 > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Startup issue - two windows
Yes, it's probably true I could use the keyboard to navigate to whichever GnuCash window is blocking the startup. However it is impossible to tell by sight which window is the culprit. So I find myself clicking around until I find the one that responds. And as previously mentioned, for some reason it's not always the one on top, as it should be. On May 18, 2022 8:31:43 AM CDT, David Carlson wrote: >In the Gnome desktop and, I think, most other Linux desktops, using >Alt-Tab, Super-Tab or just the Super key alone gives a means to navigate >around all the open windows on your computer. I only have one display >monitor active, so I am not sure how that behavior is modified for >multi-display users. > >On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 6:13 PM Tommy Trussell >wrote: > >> I'm not the original poster, but I have had the focus issue with GnuCash >> for awhile now, maybe six months? I run the latest Flatpak release version >> of GnuCash (currently 4.10+) on Ubuntu 21.10. Fortunately I DON'T usually >> run GnuCash full screen, and my primary system has two sizable monitors. >> When the dialog in back keeps me from proceeding, I have been able to scoot >> the windows around (such as onto the other monitor) so that I can get to >> whichever window is blocking the startup. But it's an annoyance. >> >> I have not kept track of when, but it only happens maybe once every few >> application launches; not every time. I suspect it must have to do with >> some specific circumstance with the "since last run" dialog, maybe only >> when it has automatically created a scheduled transaction? (Very few of MY >> scheduled transactions create completely automatically -- most of mine >> require some editing, such as the transaction amount, so I almost always >> review them once created.) I also keep nine separate GnuCash book files for >> different entities I manage, so it's likely it only affects one I don't >> open every day. >> >> Next time it happens I will make a note of the circumstances as best I can >> and try to report back here. If someone has opened a bug, let me know so I >> can subscribe to it. >> >> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 1:06 PM Adrien Monteleone < >> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: >> >> > What distro and version? >> > >> > What version of GnuCash? >> > >> > Does exiting full screen help? >> > >> > Does not starting in full screen help? >> > >> > Are you using a second display, or have you used a second display, in >> > between the time it worked fine and this problem appeared? (a window >> > might be appearing on a 'ghost' display that is taking priority.) >> > >> > If you can get to the GnuCash main window and it is responsive, go to >> > Preferences > Scheduled Transactions > Since Last Run and uncheck the >> > option to 'Run when data file opened' and restart GnuCash to see if that >> > helps. (this shouldn't be a problem, but doing this will help narrow >> > down the issue - hopefully) >> > >> > Regards, >> > Adrien >> > >> > On 5/13/22 12:38 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote: >> > > The laptop display is 1920x1080 >> > >> > ___ >> > gnucash-user mailing list >> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> > - >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > >-- >David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] unrealized gain / losses for mutual funds
Andrea, Perhaps your question is not clear if it wasn't answered by several replies hinting that accountants treat various types of assets differently. I am not an accountant, so I cannot know how well GnuCash treats the various types, but I would expect it to work reasonably well when currencies and publicly traded securities are tracked. GnuCash generally does not work very well tracking unrealized gains, as you have noted. The documentation doesn't either. If the documentation were improved to describe how GnuCash actually does work with other asset types than art objects, such as currencies and securities that are publically traded on Wall Street or the Chicago Board of Trade, I would consider that a major step forward. On Wed, May 18, 2022, 1:33 AM Andrea Borgia wrote: > Any ideas? Was my question perhaps not sufficiently clear? > > Il giorno dom 15 mag 2022 alle ore 17:15 Andrea Borgia < > and...@borgia.bo.it> > ha scritto: > > > Hello. > > > > > > Trying to improve my book-keeping, I would like to tackle this issue now > > so I went to the documentation, precisely "11.4.1. Unrealized Gains". > > > > Problem is, the example applies to a painting, that is an object whose > > value changes, not shares whose number remains constant but whose value > > changes, thus leading to a change in total valuation. > > > > > > Since the end goal is to derive unrealized P&L and then include those in > > the economic result for the year, I thought I could record a fake sale, > > after all at book opening the next year I do a fake purchase (with same > > price, just one day apart). If this makes sense, how do I compute the > > P&L given the new price? Must I do that manually with a split or is > > there some kind of assistance by GnuCash? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrea. > > > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] unrealized gain / losses for mutual funds
A couple of points here: First, the analogy of a painting's unrealized gains to those of any other asset is perfectly valid. The only difference is that there is only one "share" of the painting, while there are many shares of a stock or mutual fund. Their change in value is going to be the unrealized gain or loss. The math for gain on a single item is simple, making the example perhaps easier to comprehend, at the risk of oversimplification the questions. Second, my (admittedly very basic) understanding of accounting is that unrealized gains, from an accounting perspective *don't exist.* You don't have the gains until you sell the asset. Gnucash applies this concept rather strictly. These points being said, there have been suggestions made in this list by others more qualified than I on the circumstances in which a user might need to track unrealized gains and account for them on an ongoing basis. I believe the term they used was "mark to market." You might look for those threads in the list archives. David T. On May 18, 2022 10:03:47 AM EDT, David Carlson wrote: >Andrea, > >Perhaps your question is not clear if it wasn't answered by several replies >hinting that accountants treat various types of assets differently. I am >not an accountant, so I cannot know how well GnuCash treats the various >types, but I would expect it to work reasonably well when currencies and >publicly traded securities are tracked. > >GnuCash generally does not work very well tracking unrealized gains, as you >have noted. The documentation doesn't either. > >If the documentation were improved to describe how GnuCash actually does >work with other asset types than art objects, such as currencies and >securities that are publically traded on Wall Street or the Chicago Board >of Trade, I would consider that a major step forward. > >On Wed, May 18, 2022, 1:33 AM Andrea Borgia wrote: > >> Any ideas? Was my question perhaps not sufficiently clear? >> >> Il giorno dom 15 mag 2022 alle ore 17:15 Andrea Borgia < >> and...@borgia.bo.it> >> ha scritto: >> >> > Hello. >> > >> > >> > Trying to improve my book-keeping, I would like to tackle this issue now >> > so I went to the documentation, precisely "11.4.1. Unrealized Gains". >> > >> > Problem is, the example applies to a painting, that is an object whose >> > value changes, not shares whose number remains constant but whose value >> > changes, thus leading to a change in total valuation. >> > >> > >> > Since the end goal is to derive unrealized P&L and then include those in >> > the economic result for the year, I thought I could record a fake sale, >> > after all at book opening the next year I do a fake purchase (with same >> > price, just one day apart). If this makes sense, how do I compute the >> > P&L given the new price? Must I do that manually with a split or is >> > there some kind of assistance by GnuCash? >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Andrea. >> > >> > >> > >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Startup issue - two windows
In my original reply of suggestions to try, I was working on the assumption that the user had inadvertently raised focus while the controlling window was generated. The only way around that is to not touch anything till all windows load. But if a window that demands control is not also 'sticky' to the top of the window stack, I'd think that is a bug. It might be a GTK bug, but this might be a GnuCash bug if GC is using the wrong window type for that 'controlling' window which is demanding user action before giving up focus to other windows for the app. Personally, I don't use full screen and *none* of the non-main windows *ever* steal focus/control or demand user interaction before I can click anywhere else. So perhaps there is something else at play. Regards, Adrien On 5/18/22 8:40 AM, Tommy Trussell wrote: Yes, it's probably true I could use the keyboard to navigate to whichever GnuCash window is blocking the startup. However it is impossible to tell by sight which window is the culprit. So I find myself clicking around until I find the one that responds. And as previously mentioned, for some reason it's not always the one on top, as it should be. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] unrealized gain / losses for mutual funds
Ken Schneider > On May 18, 2022, at 10:49 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: > > A couple of points here: > > First, the analogy of a painting's unrealized gains to those of any other > asset is perfectly valid. The only difference is that there is only one > "share" of the painting, while there are many shares of a stock or mutual > fund. Their change in value is going to be the unrealized gain or loss. The > math for gain on a single item is simple, making the example perhaps easier > to comprehend, at the risk of oversimplification the questions. With introduction of NFT’s this no longer stamped in concrete. > > Second, my (admittedly very basic) understanding of accounting is that > unrealized gains, from an accounting perspective *don't exist.* You don't > have the gains until you sell the asset. Gnucash applies this concept rather > strictly. If you live in the U.S. our illustrious leaders have indicated that they would like taxing gains as the occur in a held investment. Whether this happens or not is anyone’s guess. > > These points being said, there have been suggestions made in this list by > others more qualified than I on the circumstances in which a user might need > to track unrealized gains and account for them on an ongoing basis. I believe > the term they used was "mark to market." You might look for those threads in > the list archives. > > David T. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] unrealized gain / losses for mutual funds
I have no idea how NFTs change the concept of gains. And suggesting that tax laws in the US are going to adopt these guidelines is speculation at best. More likely it's wishful thinking-- or tilting at windmills. On May 18, 2022, 15:03, at 15:03, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > > >Ken Schneider > >> On May 18, 2022, at 10:49 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: >> >> A couple of points here: >> >> First, the analogy of a painting's unrealized gains to those of any >other asset is perfectly valid. The only difference is that there is >only one "share" of the painting, while there are many shares of a >stock or mutual fund. Their change in value is going to be the >unrealized gain or loss. The math for gain on a single item is simple, >making the example perhaps easier to comprehend, at the risk of >oversimplification the questions. > >With introduction of NFT’s this no longer stamped in concrete. > >> >> Second, my (admittedly very basic) understanding of accounting is >that unrealized gains, from an accounting perspective *don't exist.* >You don't have the gains until you sell the asset. Gnucash applies this >concept rather strictly. > >If you live in the U.S. our illustrious leaders have indicated that >they would like taxing gains as the occur in a held investment. Whether >this happens or not is anyone’s guess. > >> >> These points being said, there have been suggestions made in this >list by others more qualified than I on the circumstances in which a >user might need to track unrealized gains and account for them on an >ongoing basis. I believe the term they used was "mark to market." You >might look for those threads in the list archives. >> >> David T. > >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Import Map Editor - accidentally deleted account
Hello, I don't have a "qif-accounts-map" file on my system. I've been importing OFX rather than QIF format. Where else would the mapping for these imports be stored? On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 1:28 AM Tommy Trussell wrote: > I don't regularly import data, so I am not sure... > > HOWEVER what happens if you quit GnuCash, move the qif-accounts-map file > to another place, then open GnuCash and try the import again? > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations > > If this is "dangerous" I hope someone jumps in. Since I haven't used the > importer on this system I don't even see the file, so I presume it gets > automatically created when necessary during the import process. > > Please be sure to report back whether thad does or does not work! > > > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 2:26 AM Bogdan wrote: > >> Hello, does anybody have a suggestion how to fix the import map editor? >> >> On Wed, May 11, 2022, 12:26 Bogdan wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I've accidentally deleted several accounts in the Import Map Editor - >> > Bayesian (actually, I was trying to delete a match string but it would >> > delete the entire source account with all match strings). Now, >> obviously, >> > matching on import no longer works for these accounts. >> > >> >> Is there a way to restore it? >> > >> >> Making a new import does not record the missing account in the Import Map >> > Editor (and match strings are not recorded). >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] unrealized gain / losses for mutual funds
On 5/18/2022 10:46 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: A couple of points here: First, the analogy of a painting's unrealized gains to those of any other asset is perfectly valid. The only difference is that there is only one "share" of the painting, while there are many shares of a stock or mutual fund. Their change in value is going to be the unrealized gain or loss. The math for gain on a single item is simple, making the example perhaps easier to comprehend, at the risk of oversimplification the questions. There are OTHER assets (investments) where you might want to track "unrealized/tentative" gains and in fact there are cases where you are required to. This might depend on whether "incidental" or one of your major activities << I had to learn the difference with regard to "forest land" when neighboring land was being logged and we allowed the haul out across a narrow neck connecting larger tracts of our land. To have hauled around would have caused more environmental damage --- for ME, the "stumpage" counted as "incidental" --- I would have had to file differently (and be keeping nooks differently) had I been holding forest land as an investment. Because we lack "qualifications", seek professional guidance on WHAT to do. We can then help with the "how to do that using gnucash". Especially in this specific case of "art held as an investment" because you might actually be doing this but want it treated as "incidental" depending on which way more tax favorable. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] unrealized gain / losses for mutual funds
Andrea The mechanism for recording unrealized gains and losses is basically fairly simple but the devil is as usual in the detail. You need a sub account of your asset account and a corresponding account in Equity which you could call a revaluation reserve or something similar. This account can be either in Equity itself or could be an Income or Expense account (which is included in profit and loss). Which is appropriate to use depends upon many factors, the asset, the rules that apply to that asset class in your jurisdiction including tax legislation etc., whether the gains or losses are or are not taxable (generally not but as Mike points out not always). These sort of considerations with regard to the reporting requirements will determine exactly where in an account heirarchy this account should be positioned. This is where you need accounting advice relevant to your jurisdiction and your personal situation. When the asset increases in value the asset sub account is debited and the corresponding equity account is credited (and vice versa when a decrease in value occurs). The sub account totals into the asset value. If you are doing this it would also be common practice to have the purchase value of the asset also recorded in a separate sub-account so you can track its value for capital gains purposes in which you would also track events which could affect its cost basis for CGT if appropriate,. The asset's current value being the total of the sub-accounts with the asset account itself a placeholder. This will put the changes in valuation onto the balance sheet. It will also likely affect other reports (e.g. profit and Loss) depending on where the second account is located. To automate this would require a process which takes place automatically whenever the price for the asset recorded in the price database changes which generates the appropriate debits and credits relative to the last price recorded in the database and puts then into a transaction affecting the above accounts. This is not a simple process as this would occur only for certain specific assets or asset classes, and the appropriate account structures associated with the asset and its unrealized gains would need to mapped to each asset class for which this was to apply to. The existing data structures most likely would need some extension to accommodate this (I haven't looked at this aspect particularly). This likely means a lot of checking for unwanted and undesirable effects on the existing functionality during implementation and coding changes affecting a fair bit of the code base. I'm sure there are other issues which this would affect I haven't the depth of knowledge about the code base to appreciate at this point. You could do the above manually whenever you wish to record a change in valuation of the asset at whatever period suits your purpose. David Cousens On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 08:32 +0200, Andrea Borgia wrote: > Any ideas? Was my question perhaps not sufficiently clear? > > Il giorno dom 15 mag 2022 alle ore 17:15 Andrea Borgia > ha scritto: > > > Hello. > > > > > > Trying to improve my book-keeping, I would like to tackle this issue now > > so I went to the documentation, precisely "11.4.1. Unrealized Gains". > > > > Problem is, the example applies to a painting, that is an object whose > > value changes, not shares whose number remains constant but whose value > > changes, thus leading to a change in total valuation. > > > > > > Since the end goal is to derive unrealized P&L and then include those in > > the economic result for the year, I thought I could record a fake sale, > > after all at book opening the next year I do a fake purchase (with same > > price, just one day apart). If this makes sense, how do I compute the > > P&L given the new price? Must I do that manually with a split or is > > there some kind of assistance by GnuCash? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrea. > > > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] unrealized gain / losses for mutual funds
Ken Schneider > On May 18, 2022, at 3:52 PM, D wrote: > > > I have no idea how NFTs change the concept of gains. > > And suggesting that tax laws in the US are going to adopt these guidelines is > speculation at best. More likely it's wishful thinking-- or tilting at >> NFT, Nonfungible token. Liken to owning a small piece of a painting but never the whole thing. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Import Map Editor - accidentally deleted account
Bogdan AFAIK the import mapping data is stored in the main data file as is the price database data. I don't know if the log files record changes to the import map editor or only transaction changes. I suspect if you have deleted something in the import map editor your only recourse will be to retrain the system by setting the values for unmapped transactions during the import process. It probably pays to have a very good idea of how the import mapping functions before editing the map data as it can have some unwanted consequences. David Cousens On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 23:45 +0200, Bogdan wrote: > Hello, > > I don't have a "qif-accounts-map" file on my system. I've been importing > OFX rather than QIF format. Where else would the mapping for these imports > be stored? > > > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 1:28 AM Tommy Trussell > wrote: > > > I don't regularly import data, so I am not sure... > > > > HOWEVER what happens if you quit GnuCash, move the qif-accounts-map file > > to another place, then open GnuCash and try the import again? > > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations > > > > If this is "dangerous" I hope someone jumps in. Since I haven't used the > > importer on this system I don't even see the file, so I presume it gets > > automatically created when necessary during the import process. > > > > Please be sure to report back whether thad does or does not work! > > > > > > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 2:26 AM Bogdan wrote: > > > > > Hello, does anybody have a suggestion how to fix the import map editor? > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2022, 12:26 Bogdan wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I've accidentally deleted several accounts in the Import Map Editor - > > > > Bayesian (actually, I was trying to delete a match string but it would > > > > delete the entire source account with all match strings). Now, > > > obviously, > > > > matching on import no longer works for these accounts. > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to restore it? > > > > > > Making a new import does not record the missing account in the Import Map > > > > Editor (and match strings are not recorded). > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > ___ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > - > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] unrealized gain / losses for mutual funds
I know what NFT stands for; I don't see how they have any effect on the concept of gains. You buy something at one price. You sell it at a different price. The difference is your gain (loss). Whether it's a painting, a stock, an NFT, or a parcel of land doesn't affect the idea of a gain. And who owns a small piece of a Degas? On May 18, 2022 8:44:50 PM EDT, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > > >Ken Schneider > >> On May 18, 2022, at 3:52 PM, D wrote: >> >> >> I have no idea how NFTs change the concept of gains. >> >> And suggesting that tax laws in the US are going to adopt these guidelines >> is speculation at best. More likely it's wishful thinking-- or tilting at >>> >NFT, Nonfungible token. Liken to owning a small piece of a painting but never >the whole thing. >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Startup issue - two windows
I believe that I might have experienced Tommy's situation - twice, on different machines. I believe they happened when I had just installed GNC on a new PC, I open the GNC by double clicking the data file. Hopefully, I remember the details. GNC would show the opening banner (I never turn that off. I don't like no activity during the start-up!) Then the normal screen opens, the Run Scheduled Transactions appears and finally, Tip Of the Day appears on top of RST. The later doesn't allow any activity on the other windows (within GNC) until it has been dismissed but, unfortunately, it is hidden by TOD. Once I get past that blockage, then I can turn off TOD and RST so they don't appear any more. Hope this helps. Bruce On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 11:02 AM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > In my original reply of suggestions to try, I was working on the > assumption that the user had inadvertently raised focus while the > controlling window was generated. The only way around that is to not > touch anything till all windows load. > > But if a window that demands control is not also 'sticky' to the top of > the window stack, I'd think that is a bug. It might be a GTK bug, but > this might be a GnuCash bug if GC is using the wrong window type for > that 'controlling' window which is demanding user action before giving > up focus to other windows for the app. > > Personally, I don't use full screen and *none* of the non-main windows > *ever* steal focus/control or demand user interaction before I can click > anywhere else. So perhaps there is something else at play. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 5/18/22 8:40 AM, Tommy Trussell wrote: > > Yes, it's probably true I could use the keyboard to navigate to > whichever GnuCash window is blocking the startup. However it is impossible > to tell by sight which window is the culprit. So I find myself clicking > around until I find the one that responds. And as previously mentioned, for > some reason it's not always the one on top, as it should be. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
