Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

[AC]

That was exactly it, though I was not able to find this using the 
inspector. Everything was coming up as a GtkBox.


The font size was already small on my system, the tabs themselves were 
three times the height of the font.


Unfortunately the scroll wheel doesn't work on the tabs any longer to 
quickly move through the list but at least I can see more tabs.


Before making this CSS change I could only see nine tabs.  Now I can see 
24 (I have a total of 37 open).  So the padding was huge, I just 
couldn't find the padding anywhere in the inspector though that could 
mean I simply overlooked it without realizing it.


But I now have a nice dark themed application.  I'm also pleasantly 
surprised at the speed of loading and saving the file.  I recall mention 
of this being fixed and I can certainly appreciate it.  It took about 
two minutes for 2.6.3 (my previous version) to load my file and 4.8 
takes about ten seconds.


On 2021-12-10 19:42, D. via gnucash-user wrote:

A while back, someone (named Adrien!) shared tips on formatting the tabs at 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2020-January/088583.html


 Original Message 
From: Adrien Monteleone 
Sent: Fri Dec 10 21:45:51 EST 2021
To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

Note too that there are some 'defined' register colors. The example CSS
files linked from the wiki should at least illustrate these. (though I
don't think there is much 'documentation' on them, their names should be
self-explanatory)

I'll dig into my own CSS file to see if I adjusted that tab-height
property. Or barring that, fire up the inspector myself. But you should
be able to see a property that affects it.

Caveat: respect the Cascade! thus, if a child of the tab, say a 'tab
label' has a 'font-size' specified in *any* independent measurement (not
in reference or dependent on the tab dimensions itself) that child
element will then 're-size' the tab if the tab is set to contain *all*
of its content. (I'm not describing that precisely correct for all
cases, but I think I'm conveying the right idea) This is a 'thing' in
Web CSS, but for some elements of GTK CSS, it is baked in. That is,
those elements always adjust to fit content of their children and you
don't have an easy means to change their behavior via CSS.

So you can set a tab height to 1px, but if your child tab-label is 12px,
(plus or not — margin/padding), then your resulting tab will be that
much larger regardless of the 'official' tab-height property.

I suspect that is the problem.

First, find a nice font-size for the entire UI. Stick with it. (there is
good reason for this)

Then adjust *padding* on the 'tab' or *margin and/or padding* on the
'label' of the tab as needed.

That's what I've done so far, and it works well enough for me, though
I'm not trying to shrink my tabs into near oblivion.

Regards,
Adrien

On 12/10/21 5:48 PM, AC wrote:

The syntax is roughly the same which is fine but what I'm finding harder
is identifying the appropriate selectors based on the output of the
inspector is harder.

I've gotten most of everything I wanted fixed except for the height of
the register tabs. The inspector so far isn't showing me anything
helpful to tweak that would let me reduce their height.


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Re: [GNC] Why do people start new threads?

[Chris Green]

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 08:21:29PM -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 12/10/21 3:05 PM, p...@kroitor.ca wrote:
> > Guilty as charged (and I can't even claim I'm not an old hand at mailing
> > lists). Apologies again!
> > 
> > I know there are endless posts going back years about switching to something
> > more forgiving. IMHO the biggest problem with them is how unforgiving they
> > are once a mistake is made. With a forum (or half-a-dozen other approaches)
> > at least a moderator can clean up unintended (or even intended) fiascos.
> > 
> Don't sweat it Paul!
> 
> The 'unforgiving' nature is because it is e-mail. Once it is out there, it
> is out there. No changes are possible as the transmission has already
> occurred and is fully completed.
> 
> Thankfully one *cannot* edit an e-mail after sending.
> 
However it's perfectly possible to reply to one's own E-Mail on a list
if you have made an error.  If it's simply a typo then just quote only
the line with the error and correct it.

E-Mail is still by far the most popular (and useful IMHO)
communication medium used for software technical[ish] discussions.

I am on far too many (mostly software) discussion lists to even
possibly contemplate them moving to forums.  With E-Mail everything
arrives in my mail program (sorted into separate places for each
list), if they were forums I'd have to got to (more than 60) different
web pages and log in on each to see postings.

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Re: [GNC] How would one record "Provision for liabilities" ?

[davidcousens49]

Dave,

Provisions usually fulfil the same purpose as reserves, i.e. it is capital in
equity reserved by by the board of directors to meet some specific purpose, in
this case expected future liabilities of the company, usually something like a
law suit in progress which  may result in a future liabilty where the board
wishes to reserve funds to have them available should the suit be lost. 

A possible account structure  would be
Equity:Reserves:Provision for Liabilities. 

Money would normally be allocated out of Retained Earnings possibly over several
years recorded as follows in each case, 
  Debit  Credit
Equity:Retained Earnings  xxx
Equity:Reserves:Provision for Liabilities  xxx

If the case is ultimately lost then a liability will be incurred for the
settlement which is recorded against a capital account rather than an expense
account

  Debit  Credit
Equity:Reserves:Provision for Liabilities yyy
Liability:Accounts Payableyyy

which is recorded as follows when it is paid

  Debit  Credit
Liability:Accounts Payableyyy
Assets:Bank   yyy

This is of course subject to the business rules and regulations in the 
particular jurisdiction which may impose a different treatment and should not 
be considered as accounting advice, just as an illustration of a possible 
treatment. 
Any unused reserves would be reallocated to retained earnings in a reversal of
the first transaction for the amount unused.

David Cousens

On Sat, 2021-12-11 at 00:34 +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> With all the usual disclaimers (not an accountant, not their jurisdiction,
> ask your accountant), can anyone suggest where it would be sensible to
> record "Provision for liabilities" in GnuCash? It is defined on the balance
> sheet as
> 
> *Provisions *
> 
> *Provisions (ie liabilities of uncertain timing or amount) are recognised
> when there is an obligation at the reporting date as a result of a past
> event, it is probable that economic benefit will be transferred to settle
> the obligation and the amount of the obligation can be estimated reliably. *
> 
> Does it seem reasonable, from the point of using the software, to just
> stick it in as a liability? I was thinking of creating a "Provision"
> liability under the Liability account
> 
> If anyone can confirm my suspicion seems reasonable, or can suggest a
> better place to record this, I will do so.
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Re: [GNC] Does anyone produce a "UK balance sheet" (FRS 102) ?

[Michael or Penny Novack]

Dr Kirby, I do not understand  what you are saying (about what gnucash 
does or not do) nor why you think the developers need to :do 
something"in order to produce a Balance Sheet  report.


I strongly suspect that that your "problem" has more to do with how you 
choose to set up your CoA (your accounts hierarchy)


On 12/10/2021 7:41 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:


Whenever I pick up a book on accounting, it normally shows something like
this.

1) Adds up all the fixed assets, and gives a total for fixed assets.
2) Adds up all the current assets, and gives a total for current assets
3) Adds the fixed and current assets to get a total of *all *assets

That all seems very logical to me.

*But a balance sheet submitted to Companies House does not show the total
assets.



Looking down the balance sheet for my company I see the following in order

1) Tangible Fixed Assets
2) Current Assets
3) Creditors amounts falling due within one year.
IF you want/are required to have these here (short term liabilities) and 
only long term liabilities under "liabilities" then make it so. You CAN 
have "contra accounts" when using gnucash. In other words, you can have 
an account with a name like "short term liabilities" under ASSETS. It 
would have a credit balance instead of the normal debit balance of an 
ordinary asset account.

4) Net current liabilities (that's equal to #2 - #3)



5) Total assets less current liabilities (that's #1 + #2 - #3)
6) Provision for liabilities  - I can't work out how that's calculated, but
I see it is of uncertain timing and amounts. I guess I should ask my
accountant how he came up with the figure. (*With the usual disclaimers,
does anyone know whether that would be sensibly listed in GnuCash as a
liability, despite its only an estimate?*)
   Not a gnucash matter. But yes, it is often necessary to place a 
"book value" on assets (or in this case a liability) for which the 
actual amount is not known.

7) Net assets (I can't work out how that's arrived at)
8) Shareholders - same as net assets.
   Where is the line item for long term liabilities? By #8 
"shareholders" I assume this is a corporation (with shares) and this is 
ofo course "equity" . I can see the possibility of "long term assets" 
(but not fixed assets). For example, THIS corporation might own a stake 
in another. It is of course possible that the "balance sheet" you are 
showing us is just having lines as applicable to your specific case and 
not what other corporations reporting in your jurisdiction would have. 
In other words, you are showing us arbitrary line numbers and NOT "line 
items" of the report to the government. In other words, maybe what you 
are showing us is missing both "long term assets" and "long term 
liabilities" simply because your corporation doesn't have either of those.


I think I will write myself a computer program, that tries every
combination of figures to arrive at others. I think if I add every
combination, I will get there eventually. I have a computer with two
26-core CPUs and 384 GB RAM, so I should just about have enough computer
power. 😂

Any computer has enough "power" if you give it enough time and storage 
(Turing published his proof in the late 30's)


But I want to point something out. You want to have your CoA structured 
so that the DATA you will need to fill in the required reports is 
available. Not necessarily the report in finished form. That could be a 
waste of time. Mind, I am going by the reports I have to submit.  I face 
the additional problem that some of these MUST be filed "whole dollar" 
and MUST agree with the previous year's filing. The issue there, of 
course, is that (rounded A + rounder B) does not necessarily equal 
rounded (A + B) so a certain amount of "fudging" might have to be 
applied to make everything work out. And choosing how and where to fudge 
so as to minimize the overall distortion is not a task I'd care to try 
to program << and this WAS how I used to make my living >>


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Does anyone produce a "UK balance sheet" (FRS 102) ?

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 15:05, Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Dr Kirby, I do not understand  what you are saying (about what gnucash
> does or not do) nor why you think the developers need to :do
> something"in order to produce a Balance Sheet  report.
>

*Can I suggest you actually take the time to read what I wrote? *Let's
consider what I actually wrote, and what you *should *have been able to
infer from that.

1) My title says *"UK balance sheet" *

Did that not indicate to you that I felt my problem was specific to my
jurisdiction? *You should have inferred that from the title. *

2) My first sentence wa*s  "I realise this is not something the developers
can realistically do, but I wonder if anyone has configured GnuCash to
produce a balance sheet that looks like one that would be submitted to
Companies House in the UK? *

Does that not indicate to you that I did *not *expect the developers to do
anything at all? *You should have realised that I did not expect the
developers to do anything, *

Did my reference to Companies House in the UK not indicate once again that
I thought the issue was specific to the UK? *It should have done. *

I strongly suspect that that your "problem" has more to do with how you
> choose to set up your CoA (your accounts hierarchy)
>

3) Did you not seen my sentences:

*I thought this very weird, and perhaps just a bizarre way my accountant
produces the balance sheet, so I checked another UK company. That was
exactly the same. *

Did you not infer my accountant had produced the balance sheet, *not *me?
Did the fact I checked another UK company, once again indicate I thought
the issue was specific to the UK? *It should have done.*

4) Did you see the reply from Adrian Yong, which was

* I asked for the same thing but was told that since entries are made using
the double entry system, Assets = Liability + Proprietorship is complied
with... *

Would that not indicate I was asking a reasonable question, the fact
someone else had asked the same question?

Adrian then went on to say* "I download the transaction report and used
that as a basis to generate my balance sheet using excel..". *

*Did that not indicate to you, that the report in GnuCash is not of the
form submitted to Companies House, which is why Adrian produces the Balance
Sheet in Excel? *

*At that point, I gave up reading any more of your response, as it was
clear that you were not reading what I had written properly. *

PS, My name is Dr Kirkby, *not *Dr. Kirby, which again you would have
realised, if you read what I wrote!😂😂😂

Dave
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[GNC] Version 4.6 Upgrade Oddities

[Jack Frillman via gnucash-user]

I just upgraded my Linux system to Fedora 34 and it in the process it 
upgraded GNC to 4.6 where previously it was 4.4.

Two of my settings/preferences were undone:

1 - The prices in an investment account is now in fractions, which BTW 
is unreadable, where before (in version 4.4)  I had it as a 5 place 
decimal number. I can't find were to set this.
2 - I have colors assigned to each account. In version 4.4 the color set 
both the tab color and background color of account names in the account 
tab. There is now no option to set the background color of account names 
in the account tab. So, how do I do this?


Thanks.

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Re: [GNC] How would one record "Provision for liabilities" ?

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 02:55, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> You can certainly create 'Other Liabilities' or 'Provisional
> Liabilities' under the main 'Liabilities' account, as you see fit.
>
> I'd create that as a placeholder-parent, and then create a separate
> account for the specific liability 'owner'. (or whatever
> description/name makes sense)
>

Thank you. There's only one of these provisions, so there's nothing
specific.


> This practice will allow you to easily move that account somewhere else
> in the tree if you need to. (as long as it is still a 'credit' account,
> that is—liability, equity, revenue—opposite accounts of asset and
> expense would be significantly more difficult to transition to)
>

Okay.

So if you weren't sure if the account should be Equity, Liability, or
> Revenue, it really doesn't matter at first, as long as you describe it
> well, and keep its transactions isolated. (don't mix other stuff in it,
> which is why it should be a child account with a descriptive parent, and
> never a 'catch-all/miscellaneous' approach)
>

That's *very *useful to know.

Regards,
> Adrien
>

Dave
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Re: [GNC] Version 4.6 Upgrade Oddities

[AC]

On 2021-12-11 10:10, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
I just upgraded my Linux system to Fedora 34 and it in the process it 
upgraded GNC to 4.6 where previously it was 4.4.

Two of my settings/preferences were undone:

1 - The prices in an investment account is now in fractions, which BTW 
is unreadable, where before (in version 4.4)  I had it as a 5 place 
decimal number. I can't find were to set this.
2 - I have colors assigned to each account. In version 4.4 the color set 
both the tab color and background color of account names in the account 
tab. There is now no option to set the background color of account names 
in the account tab. So, how do I do this?


Thanks.



For decimal prices:
Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Numbers, Date & Time:
Checkbox: "Force prices to display as decimals"

For account colors:

Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Accounts:
Two checkboxes:
Show the Account Color as background
Show the Account Color on tabs
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Re: [GNC] Version 4.6 Upgrade Oddities

[Jack Frillman via gnucash-user]

That was it.
I guess I better write this down so don't have to ask again in nine months.

Thanks.

On 12/11/21 1:24 PM, AC wrote:

For decimal prices:
Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Numbers, Date & Time:
Checkbox: "Force prices to display as decimals"

For account colors:

Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Accounts:
Two checkboxes:
Show the Account Color as background
Show the Account Color on tabs 


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Re: [GNC] Version 4.6 Upgrade Oddities

[Gyle McCollam]

Better yet, instead of writing it down, create a folder in your email account.  
Call it GNUCash Tips and move the email there.  That way there is no paper to 
lose or misplace, only a crashed computer to worry about (LOL).


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Jack Frillman via gnucash-user 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 1:48 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Version 4.6 Upgrade Oddities

That was it.
I guess I better write this down so don't have to ask again in nine months.

Thanks.

On 12/11/21 1:24 PM, AC wrote:
> For decimal prices:
> Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Numbers, Date & Time:
> Checkbox: "Force prices to display as decimals"
>
> For account colors:
>
> Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Accounts:
> Two checkboxes:
> Show the Account Color as background
> Show the Account Color on tabs

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Re: [GNC] Version 4.6 Upgrade Oddities

[Jack Frillman via gnucash-user]

I did both actually.

On 12/11/21 1:53 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
Better yet, instead of writing it down, create a folder in your email 
account.  Call it GNUCash Tips and move the email there. That way 
there is no paper to lose or misplace, only a crashed computer to 
worry about (LOL).


Thank You,
*Gyle McCollam*

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326Mobile

gmccol...@live.com email


*From:* gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Jack 
Frillman via gnucash-user 

*Sent:* Saturday, December 11, 2021 1:48 PM
*To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
*Subject:* Re: [GNC] Version 4.6 Upgrade Oddities
That was it.
I guess I better write this down so don't have to ask again in nine 
months.


Thanks.

On 12/11/21 1:24 PM, AC wrote:
> For decimal prices:
> Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Numbers, Date & Time:
> Checkbox: "Force prices to display as decimals"
>
> For account colors:
>
> Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Accounts:
> Two checkboxes:
> Show the Account Color as background
> Show the Account Color on tabs

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Re: [GNC] Does anyone produce a "UK balance sheet" (FRS 102) ?

[Adrian Yong]

Apologies, my complaint was about General Leger...

On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 5:02 PM Adrian Yong 
wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> I asked for the same thing but was told that since entries are made using
> the double entry system, Assets = Liability + Proprietorship is complied
> with...
>
> I download the transaction report and used that as a basis to generate my
> balance sheet using excel... Those accounts without transactions in the
> accounting period will have their balances brought forward ie. Equity...
>
> Regards,
> Adrian
>
> On Sat, 11 Dec. 2021, 11:42 Dr. David Kirkby, <
> drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I realise this is not something the developers can realistically do, but I
>> wonder if anyone has configured GnuCash to produce a balance sheet that
>> looks like one that would be submitted to Companies House in the UK? (I
>> attached a copy of mine, without obfuscating it, since the data can be
>> found online at Companies House).
>>
>> Whenever I pick up a book on accounting, it normally shows something like
>> this.
>>
>> 1) Adds up all the fixed assets, and gives a total for fixed assets.
>> 2) Adds up all the current assets, and gives a total for current assets
>> 3) Adds the fixed and current assets to get a total of *all *assets
>>
>> That all seems very logical to me.
>>
>> *But a balance sheet submitted to Companies House does not show the total
>> assets.* One would have to get a calculator out to work them out, by
>> adding
>> the fixed assets and current assets.  I thought this very weird, and
>> perhaps just a bizarre way my accountant produces the balance sheet, so I
>> checked another UK company. That was exactly the same. The balance sheet
>> is
>> prepared in accordance with FRS 102. That's a 404 page document
>>
>>
>> https://www.frc.org.uk/getattachment/69f7d814-c806-4ccc-b451-aba50d6e8de2/FRS-102-FRS-applicable-in-the-UK-and-Republic-of-Ireland-(March-2018).pdf
>>
>> with numerous amendments (some related to coronavirus). Realistically,
>> that's only going to be readable by someone with a good knowledge of
>> accounting - not an engineer/scientist like me. So I did not bother
>> looking
>> at that.
>>
>> Looking down the balance sheet for my company I see the following in order
>>
>> 1) Tangible Fixed Assets
>> 2) Current Assets
>> 3) Creditors amounts falling due within one year.
>> 4) Net current liabilities (that's equal to #2 - #3)
>> 5) Total assets less current liabilities (that's #1 + #2 - #3)
>> 6) Provision for liabilities  - I can't work out how that's calculated,
>> but
>> I see it is of uncertain timing and amounts. I guess I should ask my
>> accountant how he came up with the figure. (*With the usual disclaimers,
>> does anyone know whether that would be sensibly listed in GnuCash as a
>> liability, despite its only an estimate?*)
>> 7) Net assets (I can't work out how that's arrived at)
>> 8) Shareholders - same as net assets.
>>
>> I think I will write myself a computer program, that tries every
>> combination of figures to arrive at others. I think if I add every
>> combination, I will get there eventually. I have a computer with two
>> 26-core CPUs and 384 GB RAM, so I should just about have enough computer
>> power. 😂
>>
>> I'm thinking there's a good chance that someone in the UK has decided to
>> make his/her balance sheet the same, despite it seems rather obscure.
>>
>> Dave
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Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

[Matthew McGillis]

> primarily speculative medium of exchange to a regulated currency.

This I find interesting in this context. I will focus on currency.

To me in the context of gnucash what I’m after for a currency is to be able to 
track transactions of purchases of goods and services in a ledger using a 
specified currency. In my perfect world every ledger could have a independent 
configuration of that ledgers currency and at its core lets say a currency has 
the following characteristics: symbol ($), name (dollar), decimal (2), …

So I could have one ledger using dollars another using pound or another using 
bitcoin. Each ledger uses the specified currency.

Now all currency’s are speculative relative to all other currency so ideally in 
a perfect world an automated means of translating between one and the other 
would be built into the system so you could still see an over all value of your 
assets in some configurable/adjustable overall currency or even potentially 
multiple currencies. Total value ### bitcoin ### dollars.

All of the above is a big effort and when you get down into the weeds it really 
has some ugly nasty problems in terms of insuring accuracy. But having a 
financial product that could do this to me would be unique and very desirable 
(although I haven’t touched anything other than gnucash for probably 20 years 
now, so it is very possible this exists some place and I wouldn’t know it).

Just a side perspective one of the reasons for cryptocurrency is that they 
specifically are not regulated by governments. My bet is bitcoin never will be. 
It would probably more likely die, would be my guess, than be regulated by any 
government. Governments may try and define how it is used inside a countries 
borders and or if it is legal but all that would do is turn it into a black 
market in those places. It won’t go away as long as your internet is for lack 
of better term open and as long as some segment of the world population 
continues to keep it alive. The value of a currency is not defined by any 
government or regulation it is defined the people that are willing to trade 
goods and services for that currency.

The other side of this is bitcoin and most cryptocurrency are generally rather 
explicitly well defined and regulated by some community. In many respects it 
could be argued far better and more accurately than government currencies.

For me I find all governments less and less deserving of my trust in their 
management of their currency. I actually specifically look for opportunities to 
diversify into multiple currencies to hedge against any government doing 
something really stupid under some future leadership …. caughs.

All that aside hear hear on all of us taking owner ship of positively 
contributing to the growth of gnucash if I retire some day and have time I may 
actually work on something like this in gnucash but for now I hope maybe some 
thing in the above may spark someone else’s interest to think about how to 
actually implement it.

More dialog about what a truly generic multi-currency accounting product might 
look like I think would be interesting even if it never does get implemented 
for another 20 years.

Regards,
Matthew



> On Dec 10, 2021, at 1:30 PM, davidcousen...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Dustin and Dave,
> 
> As always with GnuCash the priority accorded to an item is a weighted decision
> based on the need and the availability of developer time against other
> priorities. The principal weighting is the availability of someone in the
> development team (by no means a fixed resource outside the core developers of
> the project and even the volunteer core developers are a time limited 
> resource)
> with enough familiarity with the areas of code affected with both the time and
> the interest in making the necessary changes. It is not simply a matter of
> management assigning an appropriate resource as it is in a commercial
> application. 
> 
> Discussions such as these are a useful and a necessary part of building up the
> momentum for introducing such changes and defining the issues involved but 
> until
> someone self identifies to take on the task of implementation, it remains 
> just a
> topic of discussion. John Ralls has defined the conditions which would raise 
> the
> priority for him to consider taking up the issue of BTC as a currency and it 
> is
> highly likely that most of the other core developers are going to have similar
> priorities
> 
> Ultimately it gets down to if you want it badly enough and non-one else is
> prepared to or has offered to implement a desired change, then you either put 
> on
> your developer hat, learn the necessary skills and get it done yourself, or
> forget about it for the moment, until someone is prepared to make the offer to
> implement it or your need becomes a sufficient motivator. 
> 
> The GnuCash user forum has had many such issues raised over its history, many 
> of
> which are still languishing after more than 20 years

[GNC] Entering dividends of stock in another (new) company

[hnh . 63144]

In recent years, several companies have spun off stock into a new 
company.  Examples are HP (DXC and others) and Pfizer (Veritas). Now IBM 
has created Kyndryl.  I have combed the help files and wiki and can't 
figure out how to best enter this.  Any ideas?


TIA

Howard Neuwirth-Hirsch

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[GNC] Version 4.6 Upgrade Oddities

[Jack]

I just upgraded my Linux system to Fedora 34 and it in the process it 
upgraded GNC to 4.6 where previously it was 4.4.

Two of my settings/preferences were undone:

1 - The prices in an investment account is now in fractions, which BTW 
is unreadable, where before (in version 4.4)  I had it as a 5 place 
decimal number. I can't find were to set this.
2 - I have colors assigned to each account. In version 4.4 the color set 
both the tab color and background color of account names in the account 
tab. There is now no option to set the background color of account names 
in the account tab. So, how do I do this?


Thanks.

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Oh carrots are divine, you get a dozen for a dime, it's magic.
  Bugs Bunny - 1951

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[GNC] MacOS - Unable to access files after upgrade to MacOS 12.0.1 Monterey

[Warren Madden via gnucash-user]

I just upgraded my Mac Mini to MacOS 12.0.1 Monterey, and now I cannot open my 
GnuCash file. It appears to be a permissions issue. Upon starting GnuCash 
4.8-2, I get an error dialog saying it can't parse the URL followed by the path 
to my .gnucash file. When I acknowledge this dialog, the open file dialog comes 
up, immediately followed by another error dialog on top titled "Could not read 
the contents of GnuCash" with text below saying that there was an error opening 
my GnuCash directory in Documents, followed by "Operation not permitted".
If I clear this error dialog and try to navigate to any other location, I get 
the same "Operation not permitted" result.
So it appears that Monterey doesn't think GnuCash has any access rights.

I then checked the System Preferences>Security & Privacy>Privacy>Files and 
Folders settings page. GnuCash is not on the list of applications, and the + 
button is grayed out (even after I unlock the lock).
I _can_ add GnuCash to the Full Disk Access list, but I really try to limit the 
applications I do that for.
Before I go that route, is there something obvious I'm missing? Is there some 
way I can get MacOS to prompt me if I want to grant access to my 
Documents/GnuCash directory short of giving it access to my entire disk?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: [GNC] Entering dividends of stock in another (new) company

[D. via gnucash-user]

A Google search of "spinoff site:gnucash.org" yields a number of results over 
the years which should lead you to some answers. 


 Original Message 
From: hnh.63...@gmail.com
Sent: Sat Dec 11 09:47:03 EST 2021
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Entering dividends of stock in another (new) company

In recent years, several companies have spun off stock into a new 
company.  Examples are HP (DXC and others) and Pfizer (Veritas). Now IBM 
has created Kyndryl.  I have combed the help files and wiki and can't 
figure out how to best enter this.  Any ideas?

TIA

Howard Neuwirth-Hirsch

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[GNC] Error when editing transfer for transaction

[Gomer Thomas]

I am importing QFX files. One of the transaction ended up with 
"imbalance-USD" in the "Transfer" field. When I try to correct it, I get 
the message "This transaction is already being edited in another 
register. Please finish editing it there first."


What does it mean by "another register"? How do I find the other 
register to finish editing it there?


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9810 132nd St NE
Arlington, WA
98223-8850

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Re: [GNC] Error when editing transfer for transaction

[David Carlson]

That error message means that transaction has a pending edit in an account
other than the register you are currently viewing.  The way to resolve this
is to move the highlight to another account in that transaction and Jump to
that account, then press Enter.  That will commit the pending edit, unless
you have additional accounts and you did not select the one with the
pending edit.

Another trick you can try is to select File > Save, and see what error
message appears, as that message will name the account register containing
the pending edit.

If you have a cat that likes to walk across your keyboard there may be an
unintended edit to remove before pressing Enter.



On Sat, Dec 11, 2021, 11:56 PM Gomer Thomas  wrote:

> I am importing QFX files. One of the transaction ended up with
> "imbalance-USD" in the "Transfer" field. When I try to correct it, I get
> the message "This transaction is already being edited in another
> register. Please finish editing it there first."
>
> What does it mean by "another register"? How do I find the other
> register to finish editing it there?
>
> --
> Gomer Thomas
> 9810 132nd St NE
> Arlington, WA
> 98223-8850
>
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