[GNC] Keyboard shortcut to open split dialog—Mac

2021-04-05 Thread Eric Beversluis
Is there a keyboard shortcut on Mac to open the split dialogue? It bogs down 
the workflow to have to grab the mouse, right click, and then click “split”.

The alt-[menu item] method doesn’t seem to work on Mac.

Eric Beversluis
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Re: [GNC] Frustration

2021-04-05 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 4/4/2021 9:05 PM, David H wrote:


AM going to continue to add to the historical accounts and use the
reports for the annual tax returns, seems like the easiest option.
My other question was again what I thought should be a simple
solution. Saving data, I have attempted multiple times to do this
in various places without success.

Have previously opened the files/accounts from the file-drop down
which works fine but there are only 4 options and I now have 5
accounts/files and as I have been playing with different names and
accounts to solve the above issues now can only open 2 is there a
way of “seeing” selecting and opening all accounts/files within
GnuCash.

As this has been very limiting have been following instructions in
user manual to save Accounts to a specific file have followed
procedure and repeated many times with same result that if no
mater which file I click on it will only open the last one that
was saved. SO below last saved was 2 Verona, when I click to open
Oxley the 2 Verona data is retrieved.

Sure there is a simple solution that I am not seeing.

Again thanks for your help.
Andrew


I am not SURE what you are saying. (Operating system might help)

When you use "file open" you get a drop down list showing the last four 
that you had open. You cant change that (get more than four i  that 
handy "shortcut" list). This can be slightly awkward if you have more 
then four ACTIVE sets of books. If the problem is that you have less 
than five (active sets of books) but some inactive ones are clogging the 
list, that is fixable, by opening the active ones until the inactive 
ones have dropped off the list as no longer most recently opened.


You are NOT limited to opening files from that list. If instead of 
clicking on one of those you use the more general "open" you should get 
to where you can select any file. That's how you can replace the 
inactive ones in the "last four" list. Is THAT what you are doing but 
say that it is opening instead the last one that was open? << in other 
words, it is THAT paragraph in what you wrote that makes me uncertain 
what problem you are claiming to have, and why I asked about OS.


Michael D Novack



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Re: [GNC] Frustration (recently used files)

2021-04-05 Thread Stan Brown

On 2021-04-03 18:40, Andrew Ralph via gnucash-user wrote:

> Have previously opened the files/accounts from the file-drop down which works 
> fine but there are only 4 options and I now have 5 accounts/files and as I 
> have been playing with different names and accounts to solve the above issues 
> now can only open 2 is there a way of “seeing” selecting and opening all 
> accounts/files within GnuCash. 

You didn't say which OS you're using, but at least in Windows you have
options:

* Create a shortcut to GnuCash with the desired file right on the
command line

* Without opening GC, double-click the file you want to open and let
Windows open GC for you.

* Some versions of Windows maintain "jump lists" of most recently opened
files for a given application, and you can configure the number of
entries in those lists via Windows.

If you have something other than Windows, one or more of the above will
probably work for you too.

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Re: [GNC] Keyboard shortcut to open split dialog—Mac

2021-04-05 Thread John Ralls


> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:01 AM, Eric Beversluis  
> wrote:
> 
> Is there a keyboard shortcut on Mac to open the split dialogue? It bogs down 
> the workflow to have to grab the mouse, right click, and then click “split”.
> 
> The alt-[menu item] method doesn’t seem to work on Mac.

No, but you can make one easily enough: 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3#Menu_Keyboard_Shortcuts

The action is SplitTransactionAction.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Frustration (recently used files)

2021-04-05 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Stan, 

I'm going to wager that Andrew is on a Mac, because he said that when he 
clicked one account, another opened. This strongly implies the oddity that Mac 
users cannot double click on a GnuCash file in Finder and have that file open. 
It will always trigger Gnucash for the last file opened. 

This is a known issue for Mac users of Gnucash, and John Ralls (the Mac expert 
on the development team) has in the past explained exactly why this problem 
exists on the Mac. The workaround on this is to use File->Open in GnuCash to 
open your files. You can create Automator scripts as well, but that seems a 
little like overkill. 

David T. 


 Original Message 
From: Stan Brown 
Sent: Mon Apr 05 11:25:35 EDT 2021
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Frustration (recently used files)


On 2021-04-03 18:40, Andrew Ralph via gnucash-user wrote:

> Have previously opened the files/accounts from the file-drop down which works 
> fine but there are only 4 options and I now have 5 accounts/files and as I 
> have been playing with different names and accounts to solve the above issues 
> now can only open 2 is there a way of “seeing” selecting and opening all 
> accounts/files within GnuCash. 

You didn't say which OS you're using, but at least in Windows you have
options:

* Create a shortcut to GnuCash with the desired file right on the
command line

* Without opening GC, double-click the file you want to open and let
Windows open GC for you.

* Some versions of Windows maintain "jump lists" of most recently opened
files for a given application, and you can configure the number of
entries in those lists via Windows.

If you have something other than Windows, one or more of the above will
probably work for you too.

-- 
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
https://OakRoadSystems.com
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Re: [GNC] Frustration

2021-04-05 Thread David H
Just to be clear Michael, I did NOT write any of this 

Cheers David H.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 01:07, Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 4/4/2021 9:05 PM, David H wrote:
>
> AM going to continue to add to the historical accounts and use the reports
>> for the annual tax returns, seems like the easiest option.
>> My other question was again what I thought should be a simple solution.
>> Saving data, I have attempted multiple times to do this in various places
>> without success.
>>
>> Have previously opened the files/accounts from the file-drop down which
>> works fine but there are only 4 options and I now have 5 accounts/files and
>> as I have been playing with different names and accounts to solve the above
>> issues now can only open 2 is there a way of “seeing” selecting and opening
>> all accounts/files within GnuCash.
>>
>> As this has been very limiting have been following instructions in user
>> manual to save Accounts to a specific file have followed procedure and
>> repeated many times with same result that if no mater which file I click on
>> it will only open the last one that was saved. SO below last saved was 2
>> Verona, when I click to open Oxley the 2 Verona data is retrieved.
>>
>> Sure there is a simple solution that I am not seeing.
>>
>> Again thanks for your help.
>> Andrew
>
> I am not SURE what you are saying. (Operating system might help)
>
> When you use "file open" you get a drop down list showing the last four
> that you had open. You cant change that (get more than four i  that handy
> "shortcut" list). This can be slightly awkward if you have more then four
> ACTIVE sets of books. If the problem is that you have less than five
> (active sets of books) but some inactive ones are clogging the list, that
> is fixable, by opening the active ones until the inactive ones have dropped
> off the list as no longer most recently opened.
>
> You are NOT limited to opening files from that list. If instead of
> clicking on one of those you use the more general "open" you should get to
> where you can select any file. That's how you can replace the inactive ones
> in the "last four" list. Is THAT what you are doing but say that it is
> opening instead the last one that was open? << in other words, it is THAT
> paragraph in what you wrote that makes me uncertain what problem you are
> claiming to have, and why I asked about OS.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Frustration (recently used files)

2021-04-05 Thread David H
Good pickup David T.

Cheers David H.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 03:04, D. via gnucash-user 
wrote:

> Stan,
>
> I'm going to wager that Andrew is on a Mac, because he said that when he
> clicked one account, another opened. This strongly implies the oddity that
> Mac users cannot double click on a GnuCash file in Finder and have that
> file open. It will always trigger Gnucash for the last file opened.
>
> This is a known issue for Mac users of Gnucash, and John Ralls (the Mac
> expert on the development team) has in the past explained exactly why this
> problem exists on the Mac. The workaround on this is to use File->Open in
> GnuCash to open your files. You can create Automator scripts as well, but
> that seems a little like overkill.
>
> David T.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: Stan Brown 
> Sent: Mon Apr 05 11:25:35 EDT 2021
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Frustration (recently used files)
>
>
> On 2021-04-03 18:40, Andrew Ralph via gnucash-user wrote:
>
> > Have previously opened the files/accounts from the file-drop down which
> works fine but there are only 4 options and I now have 5 accounts/files and
> as I have been playing with different names and accounts to solve the above
> issues now can only open 2 is there a way of “seeing” selecting and opening
> all accounts/files within GnuCash.
>
> You didn't say which OS you're using, but at least in Windows you have
> options:
>
> * Create a shortcut to GnuCash with the desired file right on the
> command line
>
> * Without opening GC, double-click the file you want to open and let
> Windows open GC for you.
>
> * Some versions of Windows maintain "jump lists" of most recently opened
> files for a given application, and you can configure the number of
> entries in those lists via Windows.
>
> If you have something other than Windows, one or more of the above will
> probably work for you too.
>
> --
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
> https://OakRoadSystems.com
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Re: [GNC] Frustration (recently used files)

2021-04-05 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 4/5/2021 1:03 PM, D. via gnucash-user wrote:

Stan,

I'm going to wager that Andrew is on a Mac, because he said that when he 
clicked one account, another opened. This strongly implies the oddity that Mac 
users cannot double click on a GnuCash file in Finder and have that file open. 
It will always trigger Gnucash for the last file opened.

This is a known issue for Mac users of Gnucash, and John Ralls (the Mac expert on 
the development team) has in the past explained exactly why this problem exists on 
the Mac. The workaround on this is to use File->Open in GnuCash to open your 
files. You can create Automator scripts as well, but that seems a little like 
overkill.

David T.


That is why I was asking for clarity about which OS and exactly what 
procedure. Because what was written was described AS IF experiencing 
this from file => open as opposed to clicking on an object.


In my own case, there was so little predictability as to which gnucash 
books I wanted to open (relative to the last opened) I use the -nofile 
option so am always selecting. The situation has gotten better (fewer 
sets of books) now that I have replacements* as treasurer for all of the 
organizations I was doing, but I still might open more than four.


Michael

* It is considered bad practice not to have periodic replacement of 
treasurer. Nor should organizations have to repeatedly override their 
bylaws to allow a treasurer to remain beyond set term. Something the 
accountant doing a financial review would flag as bad/unsafe practice.



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Re: [GNC] Tax deferred account transfers suggestion

2021-04-05 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user
 Moving it twice to tag a transfer is not cool!
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 07:13:28 PM EDT, David G. Pickett 
 wrote:  
 
  Certainly the marking could be by subtree placement rather than a boolean at 
the account level, assuming we all don’t mind rearranging our accounts into 
deferrred pretax and normal post tax subtrees.
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 02:38:43 PM EDT, David Carlson 
 wrote:  
 
 It seems that nearly all these replies ignore the fact that that the tax 
report has a feature that allows the user to associate certain accounts with 
certain US tax forms.  It even allows association with specific copies of some 
forms like 1099s.  
This is on top of user creativity in account naming or COA structure. 
I think the OP was referring to that report in his question. 
Depending on which itch needs scratching, there are many solutions available. 
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 12:11 PM David G. Pickett  wrote:

Transfers can be made in and out of tax deferred accounts.  Assigned is not a 
verb that triggers any GNUCash functionality I am aware of.  I am suggesting 
that:   
   - US Income Tax Deferred accounts have an attribute that identifies them.
   - When money is put transferred from not deferred or cash in, it is a 
taxable income deduction on the tax report.
   - When it is taken out to an account not tax deferred or cash, it is 
retirement income on the tax report.
   - If money or shares are moved from one tax deferred account to another, it 
is a rollover and should be ignored by the tax report.
The implications for US state tax and other nations vary.

One weakness of GNUCash and some similar software is that transfers that are 
tax affecting (or otherwise categorical) are not allowed to have a category 
like expenses and income in cash flow.  If I was tracking multiple customer 
accounts, for instance, cash movements between them should be labeled: 
corrections, trading, gift, etc., but perhaps that is beyond the scope of 
GNUCash.

-Original Message-
From: David Carlson 
To: David G. Pickett 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Sent: Fri, Apr 2, 2021 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [GNC] Tax deferred account transfers suggestion

I am not able to confirm right now but IIRC it is already possible to assign 
transfers from tax advantaged accounts as well as other accounts that trigger 
1099s in the US to the respective forms in the tax report.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:45 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user 
 wrote:

It'd be nice if the transfers from tax deferred accounts (401k, IRA) to not tax 
deferred showed as taxable income on the tax report.  Reverse transfers might 
also be listed as tax deductions.
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Re: [GNC] Entering A Scheduled Transaction Early

2021-04-05 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
I agree. It's kind of what I originally did except I didn't know the 
Since Last Run action.
Not very elegant but it does get the job done so it's probable be they I 
do it from now on.

Thanks.

On 4/4/21 6:23 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

You will have to do some manual work. This is how I would do it:
1.  Edit the scheduled transaction to Create 15 days in advance.
2.  Run the schedule transactions since last run to create the entry 
in the journal and update the scheduler so it knows that transaction 
was already created.

3.  Modify the date on the just created transaction.
4.  Edit the scheduled transaction to revert the Create Days in 
Advance to original value.


That, to me, is the least painful method to get the entry to show up 
so you can edit it AND update the scheduler so it knows it was already 
generated for this month.



On 4/4/21 2:44 PM, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
I have a transaction scheduled for the 15th  of every month. Today 
something occurred where I want to make that transaction today, the 
4th, and have it count as if the transaction occurred on the 15th and 
the next scheduled transaction date is the following month without 
having to go thought the process of adjusting the schedule dates 
manually.


On 4/4/21 12:25 PM, Michael Hendry wrote:
On 4 Apr 2021, at 15:30, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user 
 wrote:


That's not what I was trying to do.
Is this scheduled transaction (Sx) the first of a series (A), or is 
it part of an existing series which is to be paid earlier than 
normal? (B)


If (A): create the Sx with the early start date, and adjust the Sx 
after that date has past.


If (B): duplicate last month’s (already created) transaction, and 
put in the desired date. Adjust the Sx so that its first payment 
will be next month.


If neither (A) nor (B) please explain what you are trying to do.

Regards,

Michael







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Re: [GNC] Tax deferred account transfers suggestion

2021-04-05 Thread David Carlson
David P,
What verb would you use to declare that transactions in or out of a
particular account should appear in a tax report as part of the total that
should appear, for example, on a certain line on form 1099-R from a certain
custodian. The tax schedule report assigns, associates, links or somehow
picks out which transactions create the list of transactions that should be
included on whichever line of whichever form to be reported to the U.S.
IRS.  The user should have created a certain income account to identify
cash moves from a tax deferred asset account to a current asset account,
which should appear on a certain 1099-R form, linked to that form in the
tax report, and those transactions appear on that line in the tax report.

You can assign wage income to W-2's, or whatever.


Isn't that what you are looking for?

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 5:11 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

>  Moving it twice to tag a transfer is not cool!
> On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 07:13:28 PM EDT, David G. Pickett <
> dgpick...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>   Certainly the marking could be by subtree placement rather than a
> boolean at the account level, assuming we all don’t mind rearranging our
> accounts into deferrred pretax and normal post tax subtrees.
> On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 02:38:43 PM EDT, David Carlson <
> david.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  It seems that nearly all these replies ignore the fact that that the tax
> report has a feature that allows the user to associate certain accounts
> with certain US tax forms.  It even allows association with specific copies
> of some forms like 1099s.
> This is on top of user creativity in account naming or COA structure.
> I think the OP was referring to that report in his question.
> Depending on which itch needs scratching, there are many solutions
> available.
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 12:11 PM David G. Pickett  wrote:
>
> Transfers can be made in and out of tax deferred accounts.  Assigned is
> not a verb that triggers any GNUCash functionality I am aware of.  I am
> suggesting that:
>- US Income Tax Deferred accounts have an attribute that identifies
> them.
>- When money is put transferred from not deferred or cash in, it is a
> taxable income deduction on the tax report.
>- When it is taken out to an account not tax deferred or cash, it is
> retirement income on the tax report.
>- If money or shares are moved from one tax deferred account to
> another, it is a rollover and should be ignored by the tax report.
> The implications for US state tax and other nations vary.
>
> One weakness of GNUCash and some similar software is that transfers that
> are tax affecting (or otherwise categorical) are not allowed to have a
> category like expenses and income in cash flow.  If I was tracking multiple
> customer accounts, for instance, cash movements between them should be
> labeled: corrections, trading, gift, etc., but perhaps that is beyond the
> scope of GNUCash.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Carlson 
> To: David G. Pickett 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> Sent: Fri, Apr 2, 2021 2:53 pm
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tax deferred account transfers suggestion
>
> I am not able to confirm right now but IIRC it is already possible to
> assign transfers from tax advantaged accounts as well as other accounts
> that trigger 1099s in the US to the respective forms in the tax report.
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:45 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> It'd be nice if the transfers from tax deferred accounts (401k, IRA) to
> not tax deferred showed as taxable income on the tax report.  Reverse
> transfers might also be listed as tax deductions.
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[GNC] Are there other Gnucash lists at Nabble?

2021-04-05 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hello,

in gnucash-help, 2.1.3. GnuCash On-line Assistance says
> If you prefer a web forum-like presentation, you can use a 3rd party service 
> like Nabble.

That links to
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html

As we are translating and not familiar with Nabble, we want to know: Are
there other Gnucash related lists like -devel, -de … maintained, too?

TIA
Frank
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Re: [GNC] Are there other Gnucash lists at Nabble?

2021-04-05 Thread Liz Dodd
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 04:54:36 +0200
"Frank H. Ellenberger"  wrote:

> As we are translating and not familiar with Nabble, we want to know:
> Are there other Gnucash related lists like -devel, -de … maintained,
> too?
> 
> TIA
> Frank

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Liz
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Re: [GNC] Are there other Gnucash lists at Nabble?

2021-04-05 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Apparently:

SubcategoriesTopicsPostsLast Post

GnuCash - User

157238161310:54pm by Frank H. Ellenberger...

GnuCash - Patches

17926180731:54pm by Frank H.Ellenberger

GnuCash - Dev

725533039Apr 01 by Liz

GnuCash - Announce

178233Mar 10 by Derek Atkins-3





 Original Message 
From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
Sent: Mon Apr 05 22:54:36 EDT 2021
To: Gnucash Users 
Cc: Christian posteo 
Subject: [GNC] Are there other Gnucash lists at Nabble?

Hello,

in gnucash-help, 2.1.3. GnuCash On-line Assistance says
> If you prefer a web forum-like presentation, you can use a 3rd party service 
> like Nabble.

That links to
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html

As we are translating and not familiar with Nabble, we want to know: Are
there other Gnucash related lists like -devel, -de … maintained, too?

TIA
Frank
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Re: [GNC] Are there other Gnucash lists at Nabble?

2021-04-05 Thread D. via gnucash-user
If not clear, those are the lists indicated at Nabble. Not a very complete 
listing, to be sure. 


 Original Message 
From: "D. via gnucash-user" 
Sent: Mon Apr 05 23:20:17 EDT 2021
To: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org, Christian posteo 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Are there other Gnucash lists at Nabble?

Apparently:

SubcategoriesTopicsPostsLast Post

GnuCash - User

157238161310:54pm by Frank H. Ellenberger...

GnuCash - Patches

17926180731:54pm by Frank H.Ellenberger

GnuCash - Dev

725533039Apr 01 by Liz

GnuCash - Announce

178233Mar 10 by Derek Atkins-3





 Original Message 
From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
Sent: Mon Apr 05 22:54:36 EDT 2021
To: Gnucash Users 
Cc: Christian posteo 
Subject: [GNC] Are there other Gnucash lists at Nabble?

Hello,

in gnucash-help, 2.1.3. GnuCash On-line Assistance says
> If you prefer a web forum-like presentation, you can use a 3rd party service 
> like Nabble.

That links to
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html

As we are translating and not familiar with Nabble, we want to know: Are
there other Gnucash related lists like -devel, -de … maintained, too?

TIA
Frank
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Re: [GNC] Duplicate Trading Account Created in V4.5

2021-04-05 Thread Mike Alexander

On 4 Apr 2021, at 0:18, Thomas Chen wrote:

I usually use Trading Account to understand the unrealized cap 
gain/loss and currency exchange gain/loss, I am wondering if it is 
providing right information if there are two Trading Accounts.


It's probably working ok, but since I haven't seen this behavior I can't 
say for sure.  If the results seem correct they probably are correct.


Mike
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Re: [GNC] Trading accounts functionality

2021-04-05 Thread Mike Alexander

On 4 Apr 2021, at 3:29, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:


Do you think I should file bug reports?


Sure, if you can specify detailed step by step instructions for 
reproducing the errors.  The more information you can give the more 
likely it is to get fixed.


Mike
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