Re: [GNC] Happy New Year

2020-01-01 Thread Alan A Holmes
+1

I started using GnuCash at the start of 2019. I'd been using a very old UK
version of Quicken (Quicken 2000 with free Y2K updates, the last ever UK
version), which was getting harder to use with each MS OS upgrade. I'd been
a Quicken user since the mid '80's.

I initially tried to migrate my old data across, but gave up on that as too
much data and getting too many problems. I decided to just archive (reports
and csv file exports of the files) the Quicken data and start from scratch
in GnuCash. It's taken some getting used to double entry bookkeeping, and
some of the terminology is confusing when you've been using Quicken for 25+
years. However, apart from one or two minor things, I'm very happy using it
for my home finances. I've only learnt how to use the things I need to use,
so I've not had to delve too deeply into the 2 manuals except when
necessary.

I'm gradually making use of additional features, as and when necessary. And
following various threads on this forum has been a great help, enabling me
learn new ways of doing things to make it easier to use.

Extremely glad I made the break from Quicken at the end of 2018, and looking
forward to making even greater use of GnuCash in 2020.

Thanks to all the developers, and those offering advice.

Happy New Year to all.


Alan A Holmes


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Subject: Re: [GNC] Happy New Year

On 12/31/2019 6:43 PM, Uttam Chakravorty via gnucash-user wrote:
> I would very much like to thank the people at GnuCash and the 
> community for all their help and support last year.

Here, hear!

I threw off the yoke of Quicken a couple years ago and have never looked 
back. GNUCash is pretty cool. Thank you!

- Jeff
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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread Finbar Mahon
I very much appreciate, and depend a lot on, Gnucash. But could I make a 
small recommendation?


When a new version is launched would it be possible to announce when It 
works for 'ordinary' users?


I have no trouble waiting until it is 'clean'

HYN 2020 to all.

Finbar

On 01/01/2020 00:34, David Cousens via gnucash-user wrote:

It should but you will have to install all the dependencies and their
development headers to build successfully. There is a breakout page from the
building instruction which gives you the dependencies to install. (There are
occasionally some that are not covered as it depends on what the particular
Linux distribution installs as standard and what libraries have been
installed with other software but it is now pretty complete).

When you run cmake, it will stop with an error if anything is missing.
Identify the missing dependency or come back to the list, install it and
rerun cmake until it completes with out error. Library names can sometimes
vary slightly between distributions to complicate matters (usually addition
of a version number or "lib" in front

apt-cache search  is a good way to find libraries with a slightly
different package name.



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Re: [GNC] Chaning left sidebar spacing

2020-01-01 Thread Colin Law
Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?

Colin

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
 wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure it’s 
> already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t provided me 
> any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar that lists the 
> accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way spread out 
> vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m currently 
> using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>
> Thank you,
> Bill Marshall
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[GNC] 3.8 Link between aqbanking account and Gnucash account broken?

2020-01-01 Thread Derek Robinson via gnucash-user
I recently installed Gnucash 3.8. I'm having a problem with online banking 
transaction retrieval and can't troubleshoot further than I have.

Symptom: Actions -> Online Actions -> Get Balance works correctly. Actions -> 
Online Actions -> Get Transactions returns a single transaction with Amount = 
0, Date = 12/31/1969, Description = Unspecified.
The OFX log for Actions -> Online Actions -> Get Transactions DOES have the 
correct transactions in it - they just don't show up in the transaction 
matcher. That log is identical to the log I get under Gnucash 3.7, except that 
the OFXHEADER value under GC 3.7 is 100 and under GC 3.8 is 102.

Observation: In Tools -> Online Banking Setup -> Match Online Accounts to 
Gnucash accounts there are two differences between GC 3.7 and 3.8.
1. In GC 3.7 the "Online Banking Account Name" is of the form Bank Code 
bankcode (), Account accountcode (). In GC 3.8 it is of the form Bank 
Code bankcode (), Account accountcode (). In other words, the Bank Name element 
is missing. Examples:
GC 3.7: Bank Code 123456789 (123456789), Account 06 ()
GC 3.8: Bank Code 123456789 (), Account 06 ()
I've verified that the bankName element is present in both the 
aqbanking/settings/account/account.conf and 
aqbanking/settings6/account/account.conf files.
2. In GC 3.7 the GnuCash Account Name gets populated when going through the 
Online Banking Setup screens and stays populated when I finish that process and 
then go back into Online Banking Setup (including after a restart of GnuCash). 
In GC 3.8 the GnuCash Account Name is populated when going through the Online 
Banking Setup screens, but it is blank if I finish that process and then go 
back into Online Banking Setup. In other words, I can't get that association to 
"stick".

Hypothesis: the "link" between the account definition in Online Banking Setup 
and the GC account is partially corrupted in GC 3.8. I say "partially" because 
the Get Balance action continues to work even though I can't see the associated 
GC account in Online Banking Setup. Only the Get Transactions action is broken. 
I can't tell where that "link" is stored but I assume it's in the .gnucash file 
itself; I can't see any evidence of it in the old (GC 3.7) aqbanking account 
definition files in aqbanking/settings/account/account.conf files, nor in any 
other files in that folder.
I appreciate any help / insight from the group.
Derek


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[GNC] Using GTK3 Themes with Gnucash 3.X on MacOS

2020-01-01 Thread farleykj
I've seen discussions that imply I should be able to apply a GTK3 theme to
Gnucash, but despite my best efforts, am unable to do so. Is this possible?

My Setup
MacOS 10.12 (Sierra), Gnucash 3.8

I've gone through the Wiki about this stuff, but nothing I try works. If
anyone has got this to work, I'd be interested in specifics as to where,
exactly, I should put the pertinent files. Seems like for MacOS there are a
whole lot of dual specifications of directories. Apparently one is if you
want to set the "look" for all GTK3 applications, and one is for Gnucash
only, but putting everything in both still does nothing for me.

So, to be more specific, where do I put the following:
settings.ini
themes directory (with subdirectories of the themes)

If it's not possible to use themes as such, does anyone have a "gtk.css"
file that they use to do more extensive customization to the interface than
what is in the simple examples given in the wiki?



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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread Greg Feneis
Happy New Year, All

Perhaps a better strategy is for the ordinary user to do the waiting.  As
is the case with a variety of software, both FOSS and commercial, you take
some risk when immediately installing and running newly released software.
It's just too complicated to test for all possible contingencies.  Seems
like the developers have to make the best compromise between development
efforts and checking for every possible issue.  Don't forget, everyone
working on this project is doing it to benefit everyone for free.  They
somewhat rely on users to test and report back about their issues.

If anyone has resources to donate, please inquire where you may help.
Anyone who has time may can get involved with helping to test before
release, for example.  I imagine there's a way to get access to a regular
(perhaps daily?) build.  This could be compiled and installed on a spare
computer and tested with a copy of your normal working data.  Report back
what happens.  I don't mean to direct this effort, but if anyone wants this
process to improve, they should consider donating resources toward that
improvement.

I wish I had time to help more, but in my case, I'm still on 2.6.21.  It
serves me well, so I have no need to upgrade other than for a circumstance
where I need to ask how to do something, it's better to have a recent
version running.

My wish is that there was an easy way to install a newer GnuCash release
without giving up the previous, that they could run alongside each other
for a while.

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 4:15 AM Finbar Mahon  wrote:

> I very much appreciate, and depend a lot on, Gnucash. But could I make a
> small recommendation?
>
> When a new version is launched would it be possible to announce when It
> works for 'ordinary' users?
>
> I have no trouble waiting until it is 'clean'
>
> HYN 2020 to all.
>
> Finbar
>
> On 01/01/2020 00:34, David Cousens via gnucash-user wrote:
> > It should but you will have to install all the dependencies and their
> > development headers to build successfully. There is a breakout page from
> the
> > building instruction which gives you the dependencies to install. (There
> are
> > occasionally some that are not covered as it depends on what the
> particular
> > Linux distribution installs as standard and what libraries have been
> > installed with other software but it is now pretty complete).
> >
> > When you run cmake, it will stop with an error if anything is missing.
> > Identify the missing dependency or come back to the list, install it and
> > rerun cmake until it completes with out error. Library names can
> sometimes
> > vary slightly between distributions to complicate matters (usually
> addition
> > of a version number or "lib" in front
> >
> > apt-cache search  is a good way to find libraries with a slightly
> > different package name.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > David Cousens
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[GNC] Non appearing, appearing - disappearing memo detail

2020-01-01 Thread Jeff Albrecht via gnucash-user

Windows 10
GNUCash 3.7

I started in on my year end taxes a couple days ago. I will get them 
filed and paid on time this year.


I import .OFX transaction and be sure the distributions are correct. I 
also paste in details of purchases typically from Amazon and Ebay. This 
specific incident is from Amazon. It's not an isolated incident but at 
the moment I can't specifically say it happens in other transaction 
vendors than Amazon.


After the initial entry, I put GNUCash aside and double check a couple 
days later. I see a transaction categorized correctly but it looks like 
I haven't pasted in purchase details. I place my cursor in the seemingly 
blank line to enter some detail and (abracadabra) the detail I entered a 
couple days ago appears - no I don't believe it's auto complete as I 
click the enter command and as I move my cursor out of that transaction 
it disappears again and no comment from GNUCash to save changes. 
Generally I cut and paste the detail info (not available in the .OFX 
transaction) from a .CSV import to a spread sheet that makes it easy to 
search for amounts and to copy/paste the detail. I can click back and 
forth between the line with odd behavior and a line in another 
transaction and have the consistent behavior of appearing when clicking 
on the line and disappearing when clicking outside of that lines 
transaction. Just for grins I prepended a ' ' space at the beginning of 
the line trying to rule out invisible specharacters, recorded the 
transaction, clicked out of the transaction and experience the same 
disappearing behavior. In this same register I can see many of the 
transactions that I've entered additional memo, non .OFX content, 
information displaying as I would like - not disappearing...


This is the string; "Creality 3D Upgraded BLTouch V1 Auto Bed Leveling 
Sensor Kit Accessories for Creality 3D Ender 3/ Ender 3 Pro/Ender 5/CR 
-10/CR-10S/CR-10S4/S5/CR20/20Pro" Could the GNUCash enter or display 
routing or associated library used be interpreting '/CR' as a CRLF or 
??? exhibiting this strange behavior?



As I say this was not an isolated incident. It's happened a few time 
over my couple years use of GNUCash. Maybe happening more often as once 
I'm clicking 'enter' I'm not looking at the transaction.


 - Jeff

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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread boldstripe via gnucash-user
Finbar, I think the Gnucash developers do their due diligence in testing but
some things don't appear until a wider group start to use the new version. 

If you depend on Gnucash, and you are using MacOS, I suggest you clone your
drive with SuperDuper! or similar software before installing a new Gnucash
and then test it for yourself. My MacOS Gnucash v3.8 works without problem.

My issues installing Gnucash 3.8 on Debian Linux Buster are only of my own
making: if I were more patient, the Debian system itself would automatically
upgrade Gnucash for me after other Debian users had done a bit more testing.
In a sense, I am trying to do something prematurely and only have myself to
blame if it goes wrong.



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[GNC] OFX/qfx Downloads from American Express

2020-01-01 Thread David Carlson
It seems that American Express and Intuit software are colluding on a new
method of downloading ofx/qfx format files from American Express.  They
have changed the format so that, according to their website, one needs to
Deactivate Online Banking Services for a Quicken Account, then Reactivate
Online Banking Services for a Quicken Account in order to get a clean
download.  Since we do not have Quicken accounts, this will probably fail
for us.  It appears that this process will probably spread to all financial
institutions that support qfx downloads via a license with Intuit
software.  American Express also supports CSV format, so I am now trying
that method.

If others have run into this problem and found a solution to make ofx/qfx
work with this new interference, please post your experience here.

I have noticed that while CSV is short for Comma Separated Values, many CSV
files use a different separator, and some require text to be enclosed with
quotes.  Fortunately, the GnuCash CSV importer tolerates these anomalies.

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David Carlson
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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread boldstripe
I'm attempting to build v 3.8 on Debian (Linux) Buster, using the
instructions on 'Building on Linux' and--as far as I can understand--a side
page on installing dependencies. I've run into an error on execution of the
'make' command that I do not understand. Can anyone please suggest a
remedy?: 

[ 76%] Built target scm-test-load-gnome-utils-module
[ 76%] Built target gncmod-generic-import
CMake Error: Cannot open file for write:
/home/michael/Downloads/gnucash-3.8b/gnucash-3.8/build-gnucash-3.8/gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/depend.make.tmp
CMake Error: : System Error: Permission denied
Scanning dependencies of target gncmod-aqbanking
CMake Error: Directory Information file not found
CMake Error: Cannot open file for write:
/home/michael/Downloads/gnucash-3.8b/gnucash-3.8/build-gnucash-3.8/gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/depend.make.tmp
CMake Error: : System Error: Permission denied
make[2]: ***
[gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/build.make:307:
gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/depend] Error 2
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:8630:
gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [Makefile:163: all] Error 2




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Re: [GNC] Non appearing, appearing - disappearing memo detail

2020-01-01 Thread Greg Feneis
In some programs I've used in the past, I've seen a similar behavior, the
text appears in the field while editing, but disappears after entering.
Sometimes this is due to the string length causing the text to wrap. Since
the field is only one line tall, nothing displays. But when you go back to
edit it, it appears again.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 09:26 Jeff Albrecht via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Windows 10
> GNUCash 3.7
>
> I started in on my year end taxes a couple days ago. I will get them
> filed and paid on time this year.
>
> I import .OFX transaction and be sure the distributions are correct. I
> also paste in details of purchases typically from Amazon and Ebay. This
> specific incident is from Amazon. It's not an isolated incident but at
> the moment I can't specifically say it happens in other transaction
> vendors than Amazon.
>
> After the initial entry, I put GNUCash aside and double check a couple
> days later. I see a transaction categorized correctly but it looks like
> I haven't pasted in purchase details. I place my cursor in the seemingly
> blank line to enter some detail and (abracadabra) the detail I entered a
> couple days ago appears - no I don't believe it's auto complete as I
> click the enter command and as I move my cursor out of that transaction
> it disappears again and no comment from GNUCash to save changes.
> Generally I cut and paste the detail info (not available in the .OFX
> transaction) from a .CSV import to a spread sheet that makes it easy to
> search for amounts and to copy/paste the detail. I can click back and
> forth between the line with odd behavior and a line in another
> transaction and have the consistent behavior of appearing when clicking
> on the line and disappearing when clicking outside of that lines
> transaction. Just for grins I prepended a ' ' space at the beginning of
> the line trying to rule out invisible specharacters, recorded the
> transaction, clicked out of the transaction and experience the same
> disappearing behavior. In this same register I can see many of the
> transactions that I've entered additional memo, non .OFX content,
> information displaying as I would like - not disappearing...
>
> This is the string; "Creality 3D Upgraded BLTouch V1 Auto Bed Leveling
> Sensor Kit Accessories for Creality 3D Ender 3/ Ender 3 Pro/Ender 5/CR
> -10/CR-10S/CR-10S4/S5/CR20/20Pro" Could the GNUCash enter or display
> routing or associated library used be interpreting '/CR' as a CRLF or
> ??? exhibiting this strange behavior?
>
>
> As I say this was not an isolated incident. It's happened a few time
> over my couple years use of GNUCash. Maybe happening more often as once
> I'm clicking 'enter' I'm not looking at the transaction.
>
>   - Jeff
>
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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread John Ralls
Stable releases are certainly intended to work for ordinary users, though it's 
always possible to have regressions.

With AQBanking we have an unfortunate conundrum: The AQBanking developer wasn't 
paying attention to legal developments in Germany and the EU and was caught 
short by some substantial changes in the FinTS (formerly HBCI) system last 
September, to the point that the AQBanking completely stopped working there. He 
has since been playing catch-up with his development branch so that it mostly 
works again, but it's a development branch and isn't stable. Unfortunately that 
put us in the position of either bundling the last stable release of AQBanking 
that doesn't work at all in Germany or bundling the not-quite stable 
development beta release that mostly does work in Germany. I decided to go with 
the beta. If that turns out to be a problem for you you can review the changes 
in the release notes (see https://www.gnucash.org/news.phtml) and decide 
whether it's worth it to use 3.8 anyway or to stick with 3.7.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jan 1, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Finbar Mahon  wrote:
> 
> I very much appreciate, and depend a lot on, Gnucash. But could I make a 
> small recommendation?
> 
> When a new version is launched would it be possible to announce when It works 
> for 'ordinary' users?
> 
> I have no trouble waiting until it is 'clean'
> 
> HYN 2020 to all.
> 
> Finbar
> 
> On 01/01/2020 00:34, David Cousens via gnucash-user wrote:
>> It should but you will have to install all the dependencies and their
>> development headers to build successfully. There is a breakout page from the
>> building instruction which gives you the dependencies to install. (There are
>> occasionally some that are not covered as it depends on what the particular
>> Linux distribution installs as standard and what libraries have been
>> installed with other software but it is now pretty complete).
>> 
>> When you run cmake, it will stop with an error if anything is missing.
>> Identify the missing dependency or come back to the list, install it and
>> rerun cmake until it completes with out error. Library names can sometimes
>> vary slightly between distributions to complicate matters (usually addition
>> of a version number or "lib" in front
>> 
>> apt-cache search  is a good way to find libraries with a slightly
>> different package name.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread John Ralls



> On Jan 1, 2020, at 12:35 PM, boldstripe  wrote:
> 
> I'm attempting to build v 3.8 on Debian (Linux) Buster, using the
> instructions on 'Building on Linux' and--as far as I can understand--a side
> page on installing dependencies. I've run into an error on execution of the
> 'make' command that I do not understand. Can anyone please suggest a
> remedy?: 
> 
> [ 76%] Built target scm-test-load-gnome-utils-module
> [ 76%] Built target gncmod-generic-import
> CMake Error: Cannot open file for write:
> /home/michael/Downloads/gnucash-3.8b/gnucash-3.8/build-gnucash-3.8/gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/depend.make.tmp
> CMake Error: : System Error: Permission denied
> Scanning dependencies of target gncmod-aqbanking
> CMake Error: Directory Information file not found
> CMake Error: Cannot open file for write:
> /home/michael/Downloads/gnucash-3.8b/gnucash-3.8/build-gnucash-3.8/gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/depend.make.tmp
> CMake Error: : System Error: Permission denied
> make[2]: ***
> [gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/build.make:307:
> gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/depend] Error 2
> make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:8630:
> gnucash/import-export/aqb/CMakeFiles/gncmod-aqbanking.dir/all] Error 2
> make: *** [Makefile:163: all] Error 2
> 

And why can't it open that file?

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] Anyone using DKB (german bank) here?

2020-01-01 Thread friedemann--- via gnucash-user
Hi, 

after the PSD2 transition, my online banking stopped working in GC3.7. I now
tried 3.8 and now I'm getting one step further to where I'm getting trough
most of the AQbanking setup until the last step where I have to register my
2factor setup.

Since so much has changed during this whole transition phase I wonder if the
bank is the problem or if its a general Gnucash problem and it doesn't work
for many people?

So has anyone recently tried to make online import work with DKB? 

Cheers





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[GNC] How to work with paypal transaction reports?

2020-01-01 Thread friedem...@masur.de
Hi, 

im manually importing all my paypal report into gnucash and technically
everything works. 

However paypal has a strange way of handling some transactions. 
Sometimes transactions are "pending" e.g. when I have received money from an
ebay buyer but the money will only show up as "confirmed" when the package
has arrived at the buyer. 

What happens now it that in my csv file i have a some point a pending
transaction and at a later point a confirmed one, however these cancel each
other out or just show up as unrelated payments. 

I wonder if there is a best practice on how to deal with paypal? or is there
another way to import the transaction easier?

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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread Fred Bone
On 01 January 2020 at 8:37, Greg Feneis said:

[...]
> My wish is that there was an easy way to install a newer GnuCash release
> without giving up the previous, that they could run alongside each other
> for a while.

The PortableApps version usually seems too be one or two editions behind 
(hardly surprising!). Currently it's 3.7.



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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread boldstripe
I eventually succeeded in building and installing Gnucash v3.8 on Debian
Buster

I installed to /usr/local because David had success with that.

Not sure what I did to make it work, but it could have been any of the
following:
- used 'sudo' before cmake, make and make install commands; otherwise had
permissions errors
- I used: sudo cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local
~/Downloads/gnucash-3.8b/gnucash-3.8
- after unsuccessful attempts, I deleted the build-gnucash-3.8 directory
before every new attempt; when I did not, the make command seemed to think
things were OK when they weren't and didn't, perhaps, instigate some of my
fixes
- I generally installed packages with dependency errors (if I saw them) with
buster-backports (this was new for me, but see this URL:
https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
- because I had had an error on 'make' concerning aqbanking, I did a search
in buster-backports for every package containing 'aqbanking' and installed
them one by one with apt or apt-get before attempting another build



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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread David Cousens
Finbar,

GnuCash is not generally altered between the stable releases unless you are 
using the "master" or "maint" branches from
the Github repository to build GnuCash. 

If you are using the release tarball or a release version from the website or 
made available via a Linux distribution it
will not change until the next release.  The minor release e.g. 
3.0->3.1->3.2->3.3->3.4->... are usually bug fixes. The
major bugs which are show stoppers if any are likely to be fixed in the first 
minor release after the major,i.e. 3.0
release but they are hopefully found in prerelease testing. The bug fixes are 
unlikely to affect the core functionality
and are mainly convenience features.  The major release e.g 2.x.y->3.0 are 
often where major changes have been made in
the code and unforseen bugs might be introduced. This is perhaps where a less 
confident user should delay going to the
new version. With the 2.x.y->3.0 transition by the release of v3.2 Gnucash was 
pretty well usable by the majority of
users. GnuCash is generally sufficiently flexible in its approach that a 
workaround any problem is likely to be
available.

I have used each version in the V3.x series within a day or two of its release 
and have never encountered any major
functionality problems in the accounting core of GnuCash.  I have an accounting 
background and some programming
experience which gives me the confidence I can survive any problems. I also 
backup my data files before installing a new
release and mark them with the release they pertain to so I can go back if 
necessary but I have never had to do so.
Occasionally there are problems you have to work around with display and 
reports etc and occasionally problems where
changes in the user file locations occurred  but these are generally resolved 
within a few days with either a workaround
or a patched release.  GnuCash has a unit testing program in place which is 
designed to detect any major bugs affecting
the core accounting functionality which helps to minimize major bugs even on a 
2->3 transition.

I think it is hard to define at which point a minor release version is stable 
enough for all users and there is no way
the developers can absolutely guarantee that that is the case. If you are a 
business user and your livelihood depends on
your bookkeeping you are going to be less tolerant of minor bugs which 
interfere with your workflow but not the core
accounting.  I'm retired so my accounting is optional in many ways so if it 
stuffs up I can afford the time to go back
and sort it out. The nature of the queries and the replies in the User mailing 
list is often the best indicator. When
they drop off in frequency and users problems are being resolved quickly and 
most relate to cosmetic features is usually
the point where a new release is usable by a majority of the user base.



On Wed, 2020-01-01 at 12:30 +0100, Finbar Mahon wrote:
> I very much appreciate, and depend a lot on, Gnucash. But could I make a 
> small recommendation?
> 
> When a new version is launched would it be possible to announce when It 
> works for 'ordinary' users?
> 
> I have no trouble waiting until it is 'clean'
> 
> HYN 2020 to all.
> 
> Finbar
> 
> On 01/01/2020 00:34, David Cousens via gnucash-user wrote:
> > It should but you will have to install all the dependencies and their
> > development headers to build successfully. There is a breakout page from the
> > building instruction which gives you the dependencies to install. (There are
> > occasionally some that are not covered as it depends on what the particular
> > Linux distribution installs as standard and what libraries have been
> > installed with other software but it is now pretty complete).
> > 
> > When you run cmake, it will stop with an error if anything is missing.
> > Identify the missing dependency or come back to the list, install it and
> > rerun cmake until it completes with out error. Library names can sometimes
> > vary slightly between distributions to complicate matters (usually addition
> > of a version number or "lib" in front
> > 
> > apt-cache search  is a good way to find libraries with a slightly
> > different package name.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [GNC] Anyone using DKB (german bank) here?

2020-01-01 Thread John Ralls



> On Jan 1, 2020, at 1:21 PM, friedemann--- via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> after the PSD2 transition, my online banking stopped working in GC3.7. I now
> tried 3.8 and now I'm getting one step further to where I'm getting trough
> most of the AQbanking setup until the last step where I have to register my
> 2factor setup.
> 
> Since so much has changed during this whole transition phase I wonder if the
> bank is the problem or if its a general Gnucash problem and it doesn't work
> for many people?
> 
> So has anyone recently tried to make online import work with DKB? 

There's a lot more knowledge about this on gnucash-de, I suggest you subscribe 
there, read through the archives, and then ask there if you haven't found your 
questions answered.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] v3.8 AQBanking in the US

2020-01-01 Thread chris graves
Has anyone in the US been able to get Gnucash 3.8 AQBanking working?

Specifically, Actions -> Online Actions -> Get Transactions
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Re: [GNC] GC CTD lost saved reports

2020-01-01 Thread Elmar
Just had a CTD when trying to modify a save report while running in 
linux (my default OS), and now all my reports and all my aqbanking info 
is gone (Linux Mint 19.1, Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 3.5+(2019-03-30) 
Finance::Quote: 1.47GC ).  However, since I dual boot, on the windows 
side, all the reports and aqbanking info is still there!  The data file 
is fine, happily. What do I need to copy over from where in win7 to 
where  in the linux file system to get my linux side working again? - Elmar



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Re: [GNC] How to work with paypal transaction reports?

2020-01-01 Thread John Ralls



> On Jan 1, 2020, at 1:30 PM, friedem...@masur.de wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> im manually importing all my paypal report into gnucash and technically
> everything works. 
> 
> However paypal has a strange way of handling some transactions. 
> Sometimes transactions are "pending" e.g. when I have received money from an
> ebay buyer but the money will only show up as "confirmed" when the package
> has arrived at the buyer. 
> 
> What happens now it that in my csv file i have a some point a pending
> transaction and at a later point a confirmed one, however these cancel each
> other out or just show up as unrelated payments. 
> 
> I wonder if there is a best practice on how to deal with paypal? or is there
> another way to import the transaction easier?

I've never tried importing from PayPal as I use it only a few times a year and 
I don't sell stuff any more.

You could model the escrow feature with a separate Assets:PayPal-Pending 
account, but I think you'll have to pre-process the csv to get it to do the 
income:sales->assets:paypal-pending->assets:paypal dance correctly.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Chaning left sidebar spacing

2020-01-01 Thread Colin Law
I see what you mean.  On Ubuntu with Waterfox browser they are much tighter
packed (gnucash 3.6).

Colin

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 17:00, William Marshall  wrote:

> Colin,
>
> I can’t do a conventional capture, since I need things highlighted by
> selection and mouse activity to show what I mean, but here’s a photo from
> me phone of what I'm talking about.  Notice first that “USAA Sav” is
> selected and see how high the top and bottom boundary are for that
> selection.  Then notice that my mouse is hovering over “USAA Visa” and see
> that it has the same excessive (to my eye) top and bottom boundaries.
> ALSO, notice that there is a separator between the two.  I’d really like to
> scrunch everything together like it used to be.
>
> I really appreciate any help you can provide.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>
> Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?
>
> Colin
>
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
>  wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure
> it’s already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t
> provided me any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar
> that lists the accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way
> spread out vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m
> currently using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>
> Thank you,
> Bill Marshall
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Re: [GNC] How to work with paypal transaction reports?

2020-01-01 Thread friedem...@masur.de
Yes theoretically possible but then i would need to manually check all
transactions to make sure that they go from pending to final. 
This kind of extra work i would like to avoid :D

Is there a way to automate escrow accounts? I have a similar issue in my
normal accounts when money leaves one account and shows up later on a
different account. I always need to manually check these transactions to
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Re: [GNC] GC CTD lost saved reports

2020-01-01 Thread Elmar
Update - aqbanking data is NOT lost, just all the reports.  The program 
says I have none saved, and need to create some.


On 1/1/20 4:46 PM, Elmar wrote:
Just had a CTD when trying to modify a save report while running in 
linux (my default OS), and now all my reports and all my aqbanking 
info is gone (Linux Mint 19.1, Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 
3.5+(2019-03-30) Finance::Quote: 1.47GC ).  However, since I dual 
boot, on the windows side, all the reports and aqbanking info is still 
there!  The data file is fine, happily. What do I need to copy over 
from where in win7 to where  in the linux file system to get my linux 
side working again? - Elmar




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Re: [GNC] Chaning left sidebar spacing

2020-01-01 Thread D via gnucash-user
William,

Did the discussion on css styling not work for you?

David T.

On January 2, 2020, at 4:05 AM, Colin Law  wrote:

I see what you mean.  On Ubuntu with Waterfox browser they are much tighter
packed (gnucash 3.6).

Colin

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 17:00, William Marshall  wrote:

> Colin,
>
> I can’t do a conventional capture, since I need things highlighted by
> selection and mouse activity to show what I mean, but here’s a photo from
> me phone of what I'm talking about.  Notice first that “USAA Sav” is
> selected and see how high the top and bottom boundary are for that
> selection.  Then notice that my mouse is hovering over “USAA Visa” and see
> that it has the same excessive (to my eye) top and bottom boundaries.
> ALSO, notice that there is a separator between the two.  I’d really like to
> scrunch everything together like it used to be.
>
> I really appreciate any help you can provide.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>
> Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?
>
> Colin
>
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
>  wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure
> it’s already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t
> provided me any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar
> that lists the accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way
> spread out vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m
> currently using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>
> Thank you,
> Bill Marshall
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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread David Carlson
Finbar,

Each release announcement is accompanied by a list of fixes and a list of
remaining bugs that the developers believe may be important to some users.
Those lists are best estimates and more issues may appear when the release
reaches a wider audience.

It is then up to the user to estimate and compare the risk of adopting that
release or waiting for the next release, not knowing whether his or her
'showstopper' bug will be fixed by then.  Most 'bugs' can be worked around
somehow, but is that ok for you?

The developers also try to keep a path open for users to revert to an older
release if they have a problem with the current release.  This last release
illustrates how difficult that can be when circumstances outside of their
control get in the way, as the situation with AQBanking in Germany made
both the new and the old releases fail in one way or another.

David Carlson

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 3:46 PM David Cousens 
wrote:

> Finbar,
>
> GnuCash is not generally altered between the stable releases unless you
> are using the "master" or "maint" branches from
> the Github repository to build GnuCash.
>
> If you are using the release tarball or a release version from the website
> or made available via a Linux distribution it
> will not change until the next release.  The minor release e.g.
> 3.0->3.1->3.2->3.3->3.4->... are usually bug fixes. The
> major bugs which are show stoppers if any are likely to be fixed in the
> first minor release after the major,i.e. 3.0
> release but they are hopefully found in prerelease testing. The bug fixes
> are unlikely to affect the core functionality
> and are mainly convenience features.  The major release e.g 2.x.y->3.0 are
> often where major changes have been made in
> the code and unforseen bugs might be introduced. This is perhaps where a
> less confident user should delay going to the
> new version. With the 2.x.y->3.0 transition by the release of v3.2 Gnucash
> was pretty well usable by the majority of
> users. GnuCash is generally sufficiently flexible in its approach that a
> workaround any problem is likely to be
> available.
>
> I have used each version in the V3.x series within a day or two of its
> release and have never encountered any major
> functionality problems in the accounting core of GnuCash.  I have an
> accounting background and some programming
> experience which gives me the confidence I can survive any problems. I
> also backup my data files before installing a new
> release and mark them with the release they pertain to so I can go back if
> necessary but I have never had to do so.
> Occasionally there are problems you have to work around with display and
> reports etc and occasionally problems where
> changes in the user file locations occurred  but these are generally
> resolved within a few days with either a workaround
> or a patched release.  GnuCash has a unit testing program in place which
> is designed to detect any major bugs affecting
> the core accounting functionality which helps to minimize major bugs even
> on a 2->3 transition.
>
> I think it is hard to define at which point a minor release version is
> stable enough for all users and there is no way
> the developers can absolutely guarantee that that is the case. If you are
> a business user and your livelihood depends on
> your bookkeeping you are going to be less tolerant of minor bugs which
> interfere with your workflow but not the core
> accounting.  I'm retired so my accounting is optional in many ways so if
> it stuffs up I can afford the time to go back
> and sort it out. The nature of the queries and the replies in the User
> mailing list is often the best indicator. When
> they drop off in frequency and users problems are being resolved quickly
> and most relate to cosmetic features is usually
> the point where a new release is usable by a majority of the user base.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2020-01-01 at 12:30 +0100, Finbar Mahon wrote:
> > I very much appreciate, and depend a lot on, Gnucash. But could I make a
> > small recommendation?
> >
> > When a new version is launched would it be possible to announce when It
> > works for 'ordinary' users?
> >
> > I have no trouble waiting until it is 'clean'
> >
> > HYN 2020 to all.
> >
> > Finbar
> >
> > On 01/01/2020 00:34, David Cousens via gnucash-user wrote:
> > > It should but you will have to install all the dependencies and their
> > > development headers to build successfully. There is a breakout page
> from the
> > > building instruction which gives you the dependencies to install.
> (There are
> > > occasionally some that are not covered as it depends on what the
> particular
> > > Linux distribution installs as standard and what libraries have been
> > > installed with other software but it is now pretty complete).
> > >
> > > When you run cmake, it will stop with an error if anything is missing.
> > > Identify the missing dependency or come back to the list, install it
> and
> > > rerun cmake until it completes w

Re: [GNC] GC CTD lost saved reports

2020-01-01 Thread John Ralls via gnucash-user
That makes sense, the aqbanking stuff lives in its own folder, ~/.aqbanking.

See if you have both ~/.gnucash and ~/.config/gnucash with only one of them 
having saved-reports-2.8.
If neither, then that's the file you want from your Windows config.

BTW, what does CTD expand to?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jan 1, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Elmar  wrote:
> 
> Update - aqbanking data is NOT lost, just all the reports.  The program says 
> I have none saved, and need to create some.
> 
> On 1/1/20 4:46 PM, Elmar wrote:
>> Just had a CTD when trying to modify a save report while running in linux 
>> (my default OS), and now all my reports and all my aqbanking info is gone 
>> (Linux Mint 19.1, Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 3.5+(2019-03-30) 
>> Finance::Quote: 1.47GC ).  However, since I dual boot, on the windows side, 
>> all the reports and aqbanking info is still there!  The data file is fine, 
>> happily. What do I need to copy over from where in win7 to where  in the 
>> linux file system to get my linux side working again? - Elmar
>> 
>> 
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Re: [GNC] GC CTD lost saved reports

2020-01-01 Thread D via gnucash-user
Elmar,

I've had my saved reports disappear in the past, but never did figure out what 
precisely caused it; the most likely culprit (I think) was some kind of invalid 
character in the saved reports file.

Saved reports on Windows is in (I believe) %HOME%\AppData\Roaming, although it 
could be %HOME%\AppData\Local 

It will be named saved-reports-{version}; if there is more than one, pick the 
one that has the largest size, since you are trying to recover lost data. You 
can examine the contents, since it is text only, although the text may not be 
comprehensible, since it is report settings code. I'm also not certain, but 
it's possible the most recent version of saved reports is 2.8 (i.e., 
saved-reports-2.8), although I haven't checked since upgrading to any 3.x 
version.

Probably though, you should figure out what caused the crash, and report back 
if it seems bug related.

HTH,
David T.

On January 2, 2020, at 5:02 AM, Elmar  wrote:

Update - aqbanking data is NOT lost, just all the reports.  The program 
says I have none saved, and need to create some.

On 1/1/20 4:46 PM, Elmar wrote:
> Just had a CTD when trying to modify a save report while running in 
> linux (my default OS), and now all my reports and all my aqbanking 
> info is gone (Linux Mint 19.1, Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 
> 3.5+(2019-03-30) Finance::Quote: 1.47GC ).  However, since I dual 
> boot, on the windows side, all the reports and aqbanking info is still 
> there!  The data file is fine, happily. What do I need to copy over 
> from where in win7 to where  in the linux file system to get my linux 
> side working again? - Elmar
>
>
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[GNC] subaccounts tabs vs windows

2020-01-01 Thread Phil Reynolds
Hi Folks,
New to the list with this msg

Win 10, 3.8
All subaccounts open in a new window, not a tab

Reverted to 3.3 ... no help. Switch is in data not program

Thanks, ptf

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Re: [GNC] Chaning left sidebar spacing

2020-01-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Bill,

There was a long thread last fall (2018) about css. I think the title makes it 
appear to be dealing with fonts, but it also covered lots of the UI, and in 
particular we covered the padding in tabs. Unfortunately, I don’t recall off 
hand the exact declarations to use. (are they not in the wiki gtk page?)

If you find that list thread but are still stumped, report back here and I’ll 
see what I can dig up. (and then put it in the wiki if it in fact isn’t there)

Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - Colin, the browser shouldn’t make a difference as it is a separate app 
entirely and GnuCash doesn’t use it for the UI. Really, the OS shouldn’t 
either. The padding is spec’d specifically, but font size might make a 
difference if the padding is set in ems.


> On Jan 1, 2020 w1d1, at 4:31 PM, Colin Law  wrote:
> 
> I see what you mean.  On Ubuntu with Waterfox browser they are much tighter
> packed (gnucash 3.6).
> 
> Colin
> 
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 17:00, William Marshall  wrote:
> 
>> Colin,
>> 
>> I can’t do a conventional capture, since I need things highlighted by
>> selection and mouse activity to show what I mean, but here’s a photo from
>> me phone of what I'm talking about.  Notice first that “USAA Sav” is
>> selected and see how high the top and bottom boundary are for that
>> selection.  Then notice that my mouse is hovering over “USAA Visa” and see
>> that it has the same excessive (to my eye) top and bottom boundaries.
>> ALSO, notice that there is a separator between the two.  I’d really like to
>> scrunch everything together like it used to be.
>> 
>> I really appreciate any help you can provide.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure
>> it’s already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t
>> provided me any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar
>> that lists the accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way
>> spread out vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m
>> currently using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Bill Marshall
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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Re: [GNC] How to work with paypal transaction reports?

2020-01-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I would think the first import would be assigned to the pending account, then 
the second would be split between pending and whatever current final account 
you’re using. There shouldn’t be any duplication that way.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jan 1, 2020 w1d1, at 4:47 PM, friedem...@masur.de wrote:
> 
> Yes theoretically possible but then i would need to manually check all
> transactions to make sure that they go from pending to final. 
> This kind of extra work i would like to avoid :D
> 
> Is there a way to automate escrow accounts? I have a similar issue in my
> normal accounts when money leaves one account and shows up later on a
> different account. I always need to manually check these transactions to
> avoid double entries.

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Re: [GNC] subaccounts tabs vs windows

2020-01-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Nope, it’s a preference:

Preferences > Register Defaults > Other Defaults > Register opens in a new 
window.

Un-check it.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jan 1, 2020 w1d1, at 6:36 PM, Phil Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> New to the list with this msg
> 
> Win 10, 3.8
> All subaccounts open in a new window, not a tab
> 
> Reverted to 3.3 ... no help. Switch is in data not program
> 
> Thanks, ptf

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[GNC] Gnucash V3.x NSTextInputClient protocol non-compliance

2020-01-01 Thread KUSUMOTO Norio
Hello all,

I have been using Gnucash V2.x for Mac. Because Gnucash V3.x for Mac cannot
handle Japanese input properly. However, Catarina eliminates 32 bit 
applications, 
so I need to migrate to Gnucash V3.x.

Probably not only is Japanese a problem in Gnucash V3.x, but it is a general 
problem that the NSTextInputClient protocol cannot be handled properly.

I can also see the problem when I switch the text input to US. For example, 
if you press the a key for a long time, a window appears where you can select
a variation of the character. If you select one of the characters and confirm it
with the return key, the return is passed to Gnucash.


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Re: [GNC] subaccounts tabs vs windows

2020-01-01 Thread David Carlson
So, how do all these computers change preferences and/or settings when
programs are updated?  It seems that Android phones in particular do that a
lot.

David Carlson

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 7:03 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Nope, it’s a preference:
>
> Preferences > Register Defaults > Other Defaults > Register opens in a new
> window.
>
> Un-check it.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jan 1, 2020 w1d1, at 6:36 PM, Phil Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> > New to the list with this msg
> >
> > Win 10, 3.8
> > All subaccounts open in a new window, not a tab
> >
> > Reverted to 3.3 ... no help. Switch is in data not program
> >
> > Thanks, ptf
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Re: [GNC] subaccounts tabs vs windows

2020-01-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
The preferences shouldn’t change.

I’ve never seen that with GnuCash, or any other app on any OS.

If any existing preference changed on any update/upgrade, and you weren’t 
warned about it during the process, I’d consider that a bug.

It is unknown so far if the OP made this change and forgot, or wasn’t aware of 
the implications, or if indeed 3.8 altered the preference setting. It has been 
many moons since I fresh installed GnuCash, but I don’t ever recall that 
preference being selected by default. 

Regards,
Adrien


> On Jan 1, 2020 w1d1, at 7:12 PM, David Carlson  
> wrote:
> 
> So, how do all these computers change preferences and/or settings when 
> programs are updated?  It seems that Android phones in particular do that a 
> lot.
> 
> David Carlson
> 
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 7:03 PM Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> Nope, it’s a preference:
> 
> Preferences > Register Defaults > Other Defaults > Register opens in a new 
> window.
> 
> Un-check it.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Jan 1, 2020 w1d1, at 6:36 PM, Phil Reynolds  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Folks,
> > New to the list with this msg
> > 
> > Win 10, 3.8
> > All subaccounts open in a new window, not a tab
> > 
> > Reverted to 3.3 ... no help. Switch is in data not program
> > 
> > Thanks, ptf

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Re: [GNC] Chaning left sidebar spacing

2020-01-01 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Adrien,

I included the link to the discussion in my previous reply. The wiki does not 
include the tab padding commands. 

David T. 

 
 
  On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:20, Adrien 
Monteleone wrote:   Bill,

There was a long thread last fall (2018) about css. I think the title makes it 
appear to be dealing with fonts, but it also covered lots of the UI, and in 
particular we covered the padding in tabs. Unfortunately, I don’t recall off 
hand the exact declarations to use. (are they not in the wiki gtk page?)

If you find that list thread but are still stumped, report back here and I’ll 
see what I can dig up. (and then put it in the wiki if it in fact isn’t there)

Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - Colin, the browser shouldn’t make a difference as it is a separate app 
entirely and GnuCash doesn’t use it for the UI. Really, the OS shouldn’t 
either. The padding is spec’d specifically, but font size might make a 
difference if the padding is set in ems.


> On Jan 1, 2020 w1d1, at 4:31 PM, Colin Law  wrote:
> 
> I see what you mean.  On Ubuntu with Waterfox browser they are much tighter
> packed (gnucash 3.6).
> 
> Colin
> 
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 17:00, William Marshall  wrote:
> 
>> Colin,
>> 
>> I can’t do a conventional capture, since I need things highlighted by
>> selection and mouse activity to show what I mean, but here’s a photo from
>> me phone of what I'm talking about.  Notice first that “USAA Sav” is
>> selected and see how high the top and bottom boundary are for that
>> selection.  Then notice that my mouse is hovering over “USAA Visa” and see
>> that it has the same excessive (to my eye) top and bottom boundaries.
>> ALSO, notice that there is a separator between the two.  I’d really like to
>> scrunch everything together like it used to be.
>> 
>> I really appreciate any help you can provide.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure
>> it’s already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t
>> provided me any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar
>> that lists the accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way
>> spread out vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m
>> currently using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Bill Marshall
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread David Cousens via gnucash-user
Greg 

It is certainly possible to run a number of versions in parallel. I usually
install my production version in /usr/local and I often initially install a
new version under my home directory and work initially on a copy of the data
file in a new location until I am happy to make it the production version
usualy only a couple of days.  It is also possible to install a separate
version under /opt for use by all users. The catch is that the same user
specific configuartion files are used by each version (and there sometimes
can be conflicts). 

I also do a little minor deelopment and documentation work so I usually have
the maint or master branches of the program and documentation installed at a
separate location under my home directory. 

If you need to separate the user config files, you can always use a separate
login to run each version but then you may need to copy data files to the
new user. You can also put files in a dropbox location and the allow each
user to signin and open them.

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Re: [GNC] v3.8

2020-01-01 Thread David Cousens via gnucash-user
This definitely looks like a permissions issue.  

One possibility is if you downloaded the source file with root permissions
or copied it to another location using sudo privileges it may have saved the
file with ownership by the root user so when you try to build it as your
normal user it does not have the  permissions required to access the
directory. Cmake does not have to be run as a super user (sudo) and after
you have extracted the source directories from the downloaded file they
should be owned by your login user as should all subdirectories including
the build directories. If you used sudo privileges to create the build
directory a similar problem may have occurred.  Check the file ownership of
the source directory and its subdirectories and of the build directory  ("ls
-al" if using a terminal).

sudo only has to be used with the "make install" command (and not with the
"make " command to build the libraries) when you are installing to a system
location (/usr/local or /opt)  so that the install procedure can copy the
required files to a system owned location.

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Re: [GNC] v3.8 AQBanking in the US

2020-01-01 Thread Derek Robinson via gnucash-user
We may be talking about the same issue - is the behavior what I described in my 
post earlier today?

John Ralls ( or anyone else who might know ) - any idea where the link between 
an AqBanking account and the corresponding GC account is stored?

Derek

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Re: [GNC] How to work with paypal transaction reports?

2020-01-01 Thread Alan via gnucash-user
I have a lot of experience with PayPal transaction import with Quicken, and what
you're trying to do is impossible. Unless if PayPal radically changed their
system over the past year, all you can get that would be compatible with a
financial program, would be QIF format. QIF has no dupe detection, and no way to
do anything with a transaction record that shows the change in status. However,
I've never seen a status field from PayPal. QIF format also brings along a
useless "transaction fee" field (always zero) within a split on every
transaction.

If you re-import the same transactions, you'll end up with uncontrollable dupes
that will have to be deleted one at a time (since there is no bulk delete
command within gnucash). The best you can do is just import the transactions
from PayPal and manually correct the bogus splits, and the transaction dates
(which are always wrong). Should be easy to reconcile, since every completed
transaction should result in a zero balance.

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Re: [GNC] How to work with paypal transaction reports?

2020-01-01 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hi,

Am Do., 2. Jan. 2020 um 06:04 Uhr schrieb Alan via gnucash-user
:
>
> I have a lot of experience with PayPal transaction import with Quicken, and 
> what
> you're trying to do is impossible. Unless if PayPal radically changed their
> system over the past year, all you can get that would be compatible with a
> financial program, would be QIF format. QIF has no dupe detection, and no way 
> to
> do anything with a transaction record that shows the change in status. 
> However,
> I've never seen a status field from PayPal. QIF format also brings along a
> useless "transaction fee" field (always zero) within a split on every
> transaction.
:
Has anybody of you some experience with aqbankings paypal module?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquamaniac.de%2Frdm%2F
It would be nice, if somebody would document it in the wiki.

Regards
Frank
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash keeps crashing with Online Banking Setup Wizard

2020-01-01 Thread Alan
Greg,

I'm still working out the setup bugs here. My Chase transactions ended up in the
wrong account. But while most of them went into gnucash, some odd transactions
appeared to be dupes, which should have been caught in the OXF import process.

I'm trying to get Fiddler or Wireshark to snoop the AqBanking login process, but
getting nowhere. AqBanking is bypassing my proxy, and a lot of people have been
posting all over the web about Wireshark decrypting SSL sessions, and it's all
useless nonsense.

BTW, last time Quicken had a major server failure that disabled Chase direct
downloads for a few weeks, I snooped a typical session and found something
interesting. Each session file contained ALL transactions for ALL Chase
accounts. They depend on the clients to detect and ignore dupe transaction
records.

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Re: [GNC] v3.8 AQBanking in the US

2020-01-01 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
HI,

Am Do., 2. Jan. 2020 um 05:27 Uhr schrieb Derek Robinson via
gnucash-user :
>
> We may be talking about the same issue - is the behavior what I described in 
> my post earlier today?
>
> John Ralls ( or anyone else who might know ) - any idea where the link 
> between an AqBanking account and the corresponding GC account is stored?

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/AqBanking#Config_Location

> Derek

HTH
Frank
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Re: [GNC] How to work with paypal transaction reports?

2020-01-01 Thread Alan
Frank,

I saw that program while trying to get AqBanking to work, and I have no idea 
what it’s for. PayPal never supported direct transaction downloads. For some 
reason (sloppy web site design?) not every customer has access to the 
transaction download menus. I’m only able to use older incomplete menus left 
over from previous web site layouts, at URLs that some other customers 
collected and shared.

But I would not be comfortable automating any process with PayPal, since their 
web site and customer service is so bad. They must have taken hundreds or 
thousands of phone calls and support requests about what happened to the 
missing transaction download menu, and never help their customers.

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Re: [GNC] Chaning left sidebar spacing

2020-01-01 Thread William Marshall via gnucash-user
Colin,

I can’t do a conventional capture, since I need things highlighted by selection 
and mouse activity to show what I mean, but here’s a photo from me phone of 
what I'm talking about.  Notice first that “USAA Sav” is selected and see how 
high the top and bottom boundary are for that selection.  Then notice that my 
mouse is hovering over “USAA Visa” and see that it has the same excessive (to 
my eye) top and bottom boundaries.  ALSO, notice that there is a separator 
between the two.  I’d really like to scrunch everything together like it used 
to be.

I really appreciate any help you can provide.

Bill



> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
> 
> Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?
> 
> Colin
> 
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure it’s 
>> already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t provided me 
>> any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar that lists the 
>> accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way spread out 
>> vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m currently 
>> using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Bill Marshall
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[GNC] Reconciliation

2020-01-01 Thread Johann George
If I correct a typo in an already reconciled transaction, version 3.7 of
GnuCash seems to change the status of that transaction to unreconciled.  Is
there any way I can prevent this from happening?  A previous version would
simply warn me that I was changing an already reconciled transaction but
would let me do it without affecting the reconciliation status.

Thanks much.

Johann
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