Re: [GNC] Saved Reports Disappearing

2019-10-31 Thread Geert Janssens
Op donderdag 31 oktober 2019 02:31:05 CET schreef D via gnucash-user:
> Fran,
> 
> First off, what version of Gnucash, on what OS?
> 
> On October 31, 2019, at 1:49 AM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user  wrote:
> >1 - I began saving recent report configurations with a dash like in order
> >to distinguish them from other reports... But, some of them disappear
> >later on when I attempt to re-open them... Any ideas on what is going on?
> 
> No idea. An examination of the saved-reports file might help. I know that I
> had some unknown corruption in my saved-reports file at one point, and
> numerous reports kept disappearing. I think that one of them was causing
> the file to get truncated on save, but I never did figure it out. At some
> point, I think I rebuilt all my reports from scratch.
> >2 - Where are the Saved Transaction Report Configurations saved?
> 
> David C. directed you to the Wiki page for this.
> 
> >3 - Is there a limit on how many Saved Transaction Report Configurations
> >you can have?
> I am pretty sure the answer is "no." Since this is just a text file, the
> drive's the limit. How Gnucash handles a large number of reports might be
> an issue, but I've never had a problem. Neither have I heard one reported
> in the last 13 years on the list.I
> >4 - Is there anyway to set where the Transaction Report Configurations are
> >saved?
> I don't believe there is, short of recompiling one in. That would require
> programming as well.

The reports will always be saved to a file named saved-reports-. 
That's hard-coded. You can influence where this file is will be saved by 
setting environment variable GNC_DATA_HOME. The one caveat of doing so is that 
it will relocate a number of files gnucash stores to keep track of internal 
state.

> >5 - Can you have each "entity" save reports in different folders?
> 
> But "entity", I assume you mean different Gnucash files. Reports are stored
> by installation, so all reports will display for every file accessed by
> that installation. This has been noted and discussed over the years, and
> bug 797124 was raised recently about it. Some workarounds are: use
> different logins for different files; use naming to group your reports.I

This is not possible straight away. You may be able to write a wrapper around 
the gnucash program that juggles different copies of the saved-reports file 
depending on your needs. That would require a bit of scripting experience and 
the discipline of always starting gnucash via the wrapper script.

Note there is currently a plan to integrate the saved reports directly into 
the gnucash data file. That should make this issue go away completely. We hope 
to get this in place for gnucash 4.0, but we may not make that deadline.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Rental property - How to account for delinquent rents?

2019-10-31 Thread David Cousens
You could use the Business Features Accounts Receivable process to create an
invoice when the rents are dues and then record the payments when they are
received. You don't necesarily have to post invoices to the tenant but you
could - it might help remind them. The tutorial Guide has an outline of the
use of the business features
(https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_bus_features.html).
The account s receivable section is most relevant.

It will depend a bit whether you are required to use accrual or cash
accounting what is the best method. A direct writeoff method simply does

Expenses:Bad Debts  Dr 
Assets:Accounts Receivable Cr 

but this has problems particularly if you write the bad debt off outside the
accounting period (usually annual) in which the rent was due as there is not
a matching of the recording of theexpense with the recording of the income.

It may be possible to use a Credit Note ( a reverse invoice)  to create the
above transaction reord. The business features are not generally tolerant of
manual entries to reverse operations. Someone else may be able to advise
whether this will work.

Another way to do it is to not use the inbuilt business features at all  but
setup a manual Accounts Receivable system.

You would need to setup:
Asset:Rent:Accounts Receivable
Income: Rent
Expenses:Rent:Bad Debts

Recording a rent apyment due would be

Asset:Rent: Accounts ReceivableDr 
Income:RentCr 

recording receipt of the payment
Asset:Bank:Checking   Dr 
Asset:Rent:Accounts ReceivableCr 

recording a rent payment not received and written off

Expenses:Rent:Bad Debts   Dr 
Asset:Rent:Accounts Receivable  Cr 

Exactly how you handle this and the timing of recording the various events
will depend on your tax situation, local taxation legislation etc. You
should not consider the above as advice in any way and you should consult a
local accountant for an optimal method for your situation.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Saved Reports Disappearing

2019-10-31 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 Thanks to all for replying to my post.
I should have noted that I'm running GC 3.7 on a Win7 Pro machine.
Original Question 1 - I began saving recent report configurations with a dash 
like in order to distinguish them from other reports...But, some of them 
disappear later on when I attempt to re-open them...
Any ideas on what is going on?

My conclusion: This should have read... I'm saving some report configurations 
using a dash and a space at the beginning of the report name. I'm discontinuing 
that practice as some of those reports seem to just disappear. (Hopefully I 
have not corrupted my report file.)
Original Question 2 - Where are the Saved Transaction Report Configurations 
saved?

My conclusion: I will take a look at the link posted by David C. But I'm 
thinking I will just leave this be as is and not try to tinker with it.
Original Question 3 - Is there a limit on how many Saved Transaction Report 
Configurations you can have?

My conclusion: I have about 30 or 31 reports saved and understand that should 
not be a problem. I'm thinking putting a dash followed by a space at the 
beginning of the saved report configuration file name may have contributed to 
the cause of my disappearing saved report config's. From here forward I'll 
begin each saved report config filename with a letter or a number and see if 
the disappearing report config file problem continues.

Original Question 4 - Is there anyway to set where the Transaction Report 
Configurations are saved?
My conclusion: I'm giving up on this but for reference here is the issue for 
consideration... 

My GC entity files are saved on my local disk and auto sync'd to the cloud so I 
can work on them at home or at work. 

Problem is if I create and save a Report Configuration at home it is not 
available at work because the saved report config files are buried in with the 
installed program files... and I do not want to sync installed programs to the 
cloud. It would be nice if the report config files were saved in the same 
folder with mybooks.gnucash so they could be backed up to the cloud along with 
the mybooks.gnucash file.
Original Question 5 - Can you have each "entity" save reports in different 
folders?
My conclusion: I'll use a naming convention to distinguish between which saved 
report config's go with which entity.

Thanks again to all for their comments and suggestions.
Fran3

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Re: [GNC] Saved Reports Disappearing

2019-10-31 Thread Geert Janssens
Op donderdag 31 oktober 2019 13:57:56 CET schreef Fran_3 via gnucash-user:
> Original Question 4 - Is there anyway to set where the Transaction Report
> Configurations are saved? My conclusion: I'm giving up on this but for
> reference here is the issue for consideration...
> 
> My GC entity files are saved on my local disk and auto sync'd to the cloud
> so I can work on them at home or at work.
> 
> Problem is if I create and save a Report Configuration at home it is not
> available at work because the saved report config files are buried in with
> the installed program files... and I do not want to sync installed programs
> to the cloud. It would be nice if the report config files were saved in the
> same folder with mybooks.gnucash so they could be backed up to the cloud
> along with the mybooks.gnucash file.

That's not quite right. The save report configurations are not stored with the 
installed program files, they are stored in your home directory, but in a path 
you typically don't go directly as a user. For that exact path, check the link 
David Cousens provided earlier.

There is no harm in synching this saved-reports file to your work PC. Your 
sync tool may or may not support synching arbirtrary files though.

Other than that, your use case is exactly why we are considering to store the 
report configurations directly in mybooks.gnucash at some point in the future.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Saved Reports Disappearing

2019-10-31 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 Ah Ha ! Got it. Found it (saved-reports-2.8) on Win7 Pro machine in...
C:\Users\UserX\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash\
Filename = saved-reports-2.8
Made a copy and was able to open with NotePad++ and I can see the way the 
report options are saved.
Regarding having that file automatically sync'd to the cloud... I'm not sure 
how to do that using the cloud/sync system I'm using.
I guess I could gin up a little code that would, when used to launch gnuCash, 
would go to the appropriate sync'd folder and get the saved-reports-2.8 file 
and put it in the proper AppData folder for gnuCash to use... then upon exit 
copy the saved-reports-2.8 file back over to the sync'd.

No time for that at the moment so I'll just trudge along for now as deadlines 
are killin' me :-)
Thanks again for the help folks.
Fran3


On Thursday, October 31, 2019, 10:00:04 AM EDT, Geert Janssens 
 wrote:  
 
 Op donderdag 31 oktober 2019 13:57:56 CET schreef Fran_3 via gnucash-user:
> Original Question 4 - Is there anyway to set where the Transaction Report
> Configurations are saved? My conclusion: I'm giving up on this but for
> reference here is the issue for consideration...
> 
> My GC entity files are saved on my local disk and auto sync'd to the cloud
> so I can work on them at home or at work.
> 
> Problem is if I create and save a Report Configuration at home it is not
> available at work because the saved report config files are buried in with
> the installed program files... and I do not want to sync installed programs
> to the cloud. It would be nice if the report config files were saved in the
> same folder with mybooks.gnucash so they could be backed up to the cloud
> along with the mybooks.gnucash file.

That's not quite right. The save report configurations are not stored with the 
installed program files, they are stored in your home directory, but in a path 
you typically don't go directly as a user. For that exact path, check the link 
David Cousens provided earlier.

There is no harm in synching this saved-reports file to your work PC. Your 
sync tool may or may not support synching arbirtrary files though.

Other than that, your use case is exactly why we are considering to store the 
report configurations directly in mybooks.gnucash at some point in the future.

Regards,

Geert


  
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[GNC] should I upgrade from 2.6.15 for windows

2019-10-31 Thread larry johnston
Hi,

I have been running gnuCash 2.6.15 for nearly three years. It has met all
my needs once I installed Phil's ytd-budget.scm to get year to date budget
reports. I do not have data to enter so I do it manually and do not
download data from financial institutions.

Should I upgrade to a newer version? If I do will I have a problem with
running ytd-budget.scm? If I don't will I have problems upgrading later
because there is too much of a gap between versions.

Thanks,

Larry
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Re: [GNC] should I upgrade from 2.6.15 for windows

2019-10-31 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I don’t download any data either, and have had no issues that I needed to 
upgrade for. I just like keeping with the most current version for bug fixes.

You should probably upgrade to 2.6.21 first. That is the last version that can 
read a 3.x file if you need to go backwards for some reason.

Then you can jump to whatever is the current release. (right now, 3.7)

Of course, always make a backup of your data file before any upgrade, just in 
case.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Oct 31, 2019 w44d304, at 3:23 PM, larry johnston  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been running gnuCash 2.6.15 for nearly three years. It has met all
> my needs once I installed Phil's ytd-budget.scm to get year to date budget
> reports. I do not have data to enter so I do it manually and do not
> download data from financial institutions.
> 
> Should I upgrade to a newer version? If I do will I have a problem with
> running ytd-budget.scm? If I don't will I have problems upgrading later
> because there is too much of a gap between versions.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Larry

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Re: [GNC] should I upgrade from 2.6.15 for windows

2019-10-31 Thread larry johnston
Hi,

Just to followup.

If 2.6.15 is working for me there is no need to upgrade.

If I want to upgrade I should upgrade to 2.6.21 first.

Do you know how ytd-budget.scm will be affected if I upgrade? I don't want
to lose this report.

Thanks,

Larry

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 1:40 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I don’t download any data either, and have had no issues that I needed to
> upgrade for. I just like keeping with the most current version for bug
> fixes.
>
> You should probably upgrade to 2.6.21 first. That is the last version that
> can read a 3.x file if you need to go backwards for some reason.
>
> Then you can jump to whatever is the current release. (right now, 3.7)
>
> Of course, always make a backup of your data file before any upgrade, just
> in case.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Oct 31, 2019 w44d304, at 3:23 PM, larry johnston <
> larryej1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have been running gnuCash 2.6.15 for nearly three years. It has met all
> > my needs once I installed Phil's ytd-budget.scm to get year to date
> budget
> > reports. I do not have data to enter so I do it manually and do not
> > download data from financial institutions.
> >
> > Should I upgrade to a newer version? If I do will I have a problem with
> > running ytd-budget.scm? If I don't will I have problems upgrading later
> > because there is too much of a gap between versions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Larry
>
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Re: [GNC] should I upgrade from 2.6.15 for windows

2019-10-31 Thread Christopher Lam
YTD budget will definitely be affected because it's unmaintained and old.

The good news is the conventional budget report will have similar
functionality called "use accumulated amounts".

On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, 06:56 larry johnston,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just to followup.
>
> If 2.6.15 is working for me there is no need to upgrade.
>
> If I want to upgrade I should upgrade to 2.6.21 first.
>
> Do you know how ytd-budget.scm will be affected if I upgrade? I don't want
> to lose this report.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 1:40 PM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
> > I don’t download any data either, and have had no issues that I needed to
> > upgrade for. I just like keeping with the most current version for bug
> > fixes.
> >
> > You should probably upgrade to 2.6.21 first. That is the last version
> that
> > can read a 3.x file if you need to go backwards for some reason.
> >
> > Then you can jump to whatever is the current release. (right now, 3.7)
> >
> > Of course, always make a backup of your data file before any upgrade,
> just
> > in case.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > > On Oct 31, 2019 w44d304, at 3:23 PM, larry johnston <
> > larryej1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have been running gnuCash 2.6.15 for nearly three years. It has met
> all
> > > my needs once I installed Phil's ytd-budget.scm to get year to date
> > budget
> > > reports. I do not have data to enter so I do it manually and do not
> > > download data from financial institutions.
> > >
> > > Should I upgrade to a newer version? If I do will I have a problem with
> > > running ytd-budget.scm? If I don't will I have problems upgrading later
> > > because there is too much of a gap between versions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Larry
> >
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