Re: [GNC] trouble compiling 3.2 release

2018-09-02 Thread Geert Janssens
The most likely cause is your build is picking the wrong version of libgncmod-
app-utils.so (which is also generated as part of the build itself).

This can be either because you are building over an old build (which is why 
John suggested to start clean) or you have in older version of gnucash 
installed and your system finds the library in that installation first.

So as second possible solution: uninstall any system-installed version of 
gnucash in /usr or /usr/local.

For completeness I have to say I don't see this issue when building on Fedora. 
I still have gnucash 2.6.21 installed from the Fedora repository. but ymmv on 
other platforms.

Geert

Op zondag 2 september 2018 05:27:32 CEST schreef John Griessen:
> I followed the directions for debian somehwat.
> 
> I made a separate build directory, copied some of the files from
> gnucash-3.2/build to it,
> then did:
> cd gnucash3.2-build
> cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local/gnucash ../gnucash-3.2
> make
> 
> and get this result:
> 
> Scanning dependencies of target scm-core-utils
> [ 33%] Generating ../../lib/gnucash/scm/ccache/2.2/gnucash/core-utils.go
> Backtrace:
> In /usr/bin/guild:
>  72:17 19 (main _)
> In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
>  640:9 18 (for-each # …)
> In scripts/compile.scm:
> 259:26 17 (_ _)
> In system/base/target.scm:
>   57:6 16 (with-target _ _)
> In system/base/compile.scm:
>  152:6 15 (compile-file _ #:output-file _ #:from _ #:to _ #:env _ …)
>   43:4 14 (call-once _)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>  841:4 13 (with-throw-handler _ _ _)
> In system/base/compile.scm:
>  59:11 12 (_)
> 155:11 11 (_ #)
> 235:18 10 (read-and-compile # #:from _ # …)
> 183:32  9 (compile-fold (#) …)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 2312:4  8 (save-module-excursion #)
> In language/scheme/compile-tree-il.scm:
>  31:15  7 (_)
> In ice-9/psyntax.scm:
>1235:36  6 (expand-top-sequence ((re-export #)) _ _ #f c (# load …) …)
>1182:24  5 (parse _ (("placeholder" placeholder)) ((top) #(# # …)) …)
> 285:10  4 (parse _ (("placeholder" placeholder)) (()) _ c&e (# #) #)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>2071:24  3 (call-with-deferred-observers #)
> 260:13  2 (for-each # …)
> In unknown file:
> 1 (scm-error misc-error #f "~A ~S" ("Undefined variab…" …) …)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 752:25  0 (dispatch-exception _ _ _)
> 
> ice-9/boot-9.scm:752:25: In procedure dispatch-exception:
> Undefined variable: gnc-build-userdata-path
> make[2]: ***
> [libgnucash/core-utils/CMakeFiles/scm-core-utils.dir/build.make:62:
> lib/gnucash/scm/ccache/2.2/gnucash/core-utils.go] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:3867:
> libgnucash/core-utils/CMakeFiles/scm-core-utils.dir/all] Error 2 make: ***
> [Makefile:163: all] Error 2
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[GNC] Get Transaction issue

2018-09-02 Thread Raymond Moritz
I'm running ver.3.2 on Windows 10 Pro. In the popup I leave it at "Last
retrieval date. The grayed out :Enter date box has the correct last date of
8/18/2018. After entering the password another popup says certificate not
trusted so I accept it. The next popup says import returned no transactions
for the selected time period.(there should be 14 trans.)
I then closed Gnucash without saving, restarted and chose "Enter Date,
putting in 8/18/2018. Same result.
I then went back to Get Transactions and the Enter Date box showed today's
date grayed out. I manually changed it to 8/18/2018 and the Generic Import
Transaction matcher window opened and showed the correct 14 transactions.
This has happened several times and the work-around gets the correct
transactions.
Also, can the trans. matcher be edited and/or default accounts be assigned?
Thanks, Ray
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Re: [GNC] Get Transaction issue

2018-09-02 Thread John Ralls


> On Sep 2, 2018, at 6:50 AM, Raymond Moritz  wrote:
> 
> I'm running ver.3.2 on Windows 10 Pro. In the popup I leave it at "Last
> retrieval date. The grayed out :Enter date box has the correct last date of
> 8/18/2018. After entering the password another popup says certificate not
> trusted so I accept it. The next popup says import returned no transactions
> for the selected time period.(there should be 14 trans.)
> I then closed Gnucash without saving, restarted and chose "Enter Date,
> putting in 8/18/2018. Same result.
> I then went back to Get Transactions and the Enter Date box showed today's
> date grayed out. I manually changed it to 8/18/2018 and the Generic Import
> Transaction matcher window opened and showed the correct 14 transactions.
> This has happened several times and the work-around gets the correct
> transactions.
> Also, can the trans. matcher be edited and/or default accounts be assigned?
> Thanks, Ray

The second question is easier. Yes, as you build the set of saved matches (or 
match tokens, if you’re using the Bayesian matcher) you should see 
progressively more transactions match automatically. That does depend on you 
doing the matches in the matcher window rather than letting everything go to 
Imbalance and cleaning up after.

As for the problem of AQBanking consistently taking 3 tries to get the data 
from the bank, the best suggestion I have is to turn on logging for AQBanking. 
I’ve pasted in the section from the AQBanking README at the bottom. Your date 
format tells me that you’re in the USA, so I’d start with 
AQBANKING_STORE_JOBLOGS=1 and AQOFX_LOG_COMM=1. On Windows it’s probably 
easiest to set those in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment; 
you’ll need to run Notepad “as administrator” to do so. The other challenge 
will be to find where the log files go since “/tmp” isn’t meaningful on 
Windows. Based on the GnuCash trace file I’d look first in 
$HOME\AppData\Local\Temp, where $HOME means your user directory.

Regards,
John Ralls

> 7.1. AQBANKING_LOGLEVEL
> ---
> 
> This variable stores the loglevel to be used for AqBanking.
> Possible values are: emergency, alert, critical, error, warning, notice,
> info, debug and verbous. Each following log level includes the previous
> one.
> 
> 
> 7.2. AQBANKING_STORE_JOBLOGS
> 
> If this variable is defined then AqBanking will always store job logs with
> jobs. Otherwise job logs are only stored for jobs with a status other than
> "finished". Job logs can become quite big.
> 
> 
> 7.3. AQHBCI_LOGBOOKED
> -
> If this environment variable exists then the file "/tmp/booked.mt" is created
> upon reception of transactions via the job GetTransactions. This file then
> contains a SWIFT MT940 document which can be very helpfull in case there is
> a problem in the SWIFT parser.
> 
> 
> 7.4. AQHBCI_LOGNOTED
> 
> Same as AQHBCI_LOGBOOKED but for noted transactions (which are transactions
> which are noted but not yet booked)
> 
> 
> 7.5. AQHBCI_DEBUG_JOBS
> --
> If this variable exists then additional debugging data is stored with each
> job.
> 
> 
> 7.6. AQOFX_LOG_COMM
> ---
> If this variable exists then all OFX communication is logged to /tmp/ofx.log.
> This is only needed when debugging AqOfxConnect.
> WARNING: This might expose your user id and password to everyone who can read
> that file!


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Re: [GNC] trouble compiling 3.2 release o rusing debian packages newer than 2.6.14-1

2018-09-02 Thread John Griessen

On 09/02/2018 06:57 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

The most likely cause is your build is picking the wrong version of libgncmod-
app-utils.so (which is also generated as part of the build itself).


OK, I started from the tarball, used a separate dir to build in.

uninstalled old gnucash:
sudo apt purge gnucash-common gnucash

searched using
locate libgncmod-app-utils.so

find ~ -name '*gnucash*'
find /usr -name  '*gncmod*'

and find nothing.

Then rerun cmake to go in ~/gnucash-3.2 dir, not /usr/local

cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/john/gnucash-3.2 ../gnucash-3.2

and the symptom is about the same:

https://gist.github.com/jgriessen/64774b6933483f44db45a96677d9b6d5


I try this every couple of months and still stuck using debian package
gnucash_1%3a2.6.14-1_amd64.deb
gnucash-common_1%3a2.6.14-1_all.deb

No other packages will run, (they do install), and no luck compiling..

More hints?
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Re: [GNC] trouble compiling 3.2 release o rusing debian packages newer than 2.6.14-1

2018-09-02 Thread Colin Law
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 at 16:34, John Griessen  wrote:
> ...
> cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/john/gnucash-3.2 ../gnucash-3.2

Don't try and install to the source or build directory, if that is
what you are trying to do.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] A feature request for next release

2018-09-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I think labels are already planned to be added for all icons. There have also 
been discussions around the icon choices themselves and/or redesigning the 
application around the Gnome Human Interface guidelines which will likely 
remove some of them entirely or replace them with label-buttons. Concerning the 
icons themselves, someone who’s a graphic designer would need to step up to 
work on them.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Sep 1, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> 
>  I know how to read text, but don't have all icons for all applications
> memorized. The only three icons with accompanying text on the current (3.2)
> version are Save, Close, and Split. Every widget set has several choices for
> pictures so there's no standard. However, word such as Post, and Reconcile
> are universally understood and can be translated into all languages.
> 
>  I strongly encourage you to add text to _all_ icons and consider an option
> to have a text only choice for those of us who find that more clearly
> communicates what the operation is.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rich
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Re: [GNC] [regression] delete key functionality lost after pasting into a transaction field

2018-09-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I think this is already fixed for the upcoming 3.3 release. (end of September?)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Sep 1, 2018, at 4:37 PM, jim.e  wrote:
> 
> I also am having the same problem of after pasting to a transaction,
> backspace and delete keys don't work.
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] A feature request for next release

2018-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Adrien Monteleone wrote:


I think labels are already planned to be added for all icons.


Adrien,

  That's a good start.


There have also been discussions around the icon choices themselves and/or
redesigning the application around the Gnome Human Interface guidelines
which will likely remove some of them entirely or replace them with
label-buttons.


  Regardless of the UI design pattern followed a text-only option should be
incorporated.


Concerning the icons themselves, someone who’s a graphic designer would
need to step up to work on them.


  I don't care how they look. I've seen KDE, Gnome, Xfce4, Qt, GTK+, and
wx.Widgets icons and they're still pictures.

Regards,

Rich
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Re: [GNC] A feature request for next release

2018-09-02 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 2 september 2018 19:17:47 CEST schreef Rich Shepard:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > I think labels are already planned to be added for all icons.
> 
> Adrien,
> 
>That's a good start.

Yep.

> 
> > There have also been discussions around the icon choices themselves and/or
> > redesigning the application around the Gnome Human Interface guidelines
> > which will likely remove some of them entirely or replace them with
> > label-buttons.
> 
>Regardless of the UI design pattern followed a text-only option should be
> incorporated.
> 
Nope.

Here's my view on it: there are more ideas for the gnucash project than 
manpower to implement them all. So by necessity we prioritize. 

Every extra configuration option that is added increases the maintenance 
burden. Not a bit, but exponentially. Even a simple one as how to display tool 
bar elements adds more code that can have bugs or become buggy over time. So 
again due to time constraints we should be very conservative in adding 
configuration options.

And if we add options, I prefer these to configure the accounting aspects of 
gnucash, not the visual appearance.

So just adding an option to choose the visual style of the tool bar is - 
pardon my pun - not an option. In fact Bob Fewell implemented this while I was 
on holidays and I have refused to add it to the code. The above is my 
motivation.

I'm not against UI tweaks in principle, but I think this level of 
configurability should not be part of the core gnucash application. Many 
tweaks can be done via theming or css customization. I would even be happy if 
someone came up with something like the gnome-tweak-tool specifically to make 
it easier for users to make style changes in gnucash.

As for the specific suggestion of text only tool bar buttons, this used to be 
one of such user tweaks. Unfortunately gtk (the gui toolkit we depend on) 
dropped this option. You could consider this a bug, but that would make it a 
gtk bug. I don't want gnucash to become more complicated just to work around 
it.

Or in other words I believe the gnucash application should follow the chosen 
toolkit's defaults and guidelines and focus on getting a powerful accounting 
engine under the hood.

Having said all that, I also think our UI is desperately in need of some 
serious review and improvement. It's more than 20 years old and a lot has 
changed in terms of computer interaction in that time. That is a project on 
its own though which may or may not be started for gnucash 4.x.

Geert


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Re: [GNC] A feature request for next release

2018-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Geert Janssens wrote:


As for the specific suggestion of text only tool bar buttons, this used to
be one of such user tweaks. Unfortunately gtk (the gui toolkit we depend
on) dropped this option. You could consider this a bug, but that would
make it a gtk bug. I don't want gnucash to become more complicated just to
work around it.


Geert,

  Yes, I remember this from many years ago. I'll consider asking the GTK
folks to add it back.


Having said all that, I also think our UI is desperately in need of some
serious review and improvement. It's more than 20 years old and a lot has
changed in terms of computer interaction in that time. That is a project
on its own though which may or may not be started for gnucash 4.x.


  My perspective on application UI is that function should preceed form. The
UI should facilitate using the tool, and being 'pretty' should be a much
lower priority as that's in the eye of the user.

Regards,

Rich
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Re: [GNC] A feature request for next release

2018-09-02 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 2 september 2018 20:49:22 CEST schreef Rich Shepard:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Geert Janssens wrote:
> > As for the specific suggestion of text only tool bar buttons, this used to
> > be one of such user tweaks. Unfortunately gtk (the gui toolkit we depend
> > on) dropped this option. You could consider this a bug, but that would
> > make it a gtk bug. I don't want gnucash to become more complicated just to
> > work around it.
> 
> Geert,
> 
>Yes, I remember this from many years ago. I'll consider asking the GTK
> folks to add it back.
> 
> > Having said all that, I also think our UI is desperately in need of some
> > serious review and improvement. It's more than 20 years old and a lot has
> > changed in terms of computer interaction in that time. That is a project
> > on its own though which may or may not be started for gnucash 4.x.
> 
>My perspective on application UI is that function should preceed form.
> The UI should facilitate using the tool, and being 'pretty' should be a
> much lower priority as that's in the eye of the user.
> 
Agreed completely and more or less the basic idea underpinning the motivation 
I gave. If you read the Gnome human interface guidelines (which I was alluding 
at in "toolkit's defaults and guidelines") they are also very much focused on 
function, not on 'pretty'.

Geert


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Re: [GNC] A feature request for next release

2018-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Geert Janssens wrote:


Agreed completely and more or less the basic idea underpinning the
motivation I gave. If you read the Gnome human interface guidelines (which
I was alluding at in "toolkit's defaults and guidelines") they are also
very much focused on function, not on 'pretty'.


Geert,

  While accepting your justification for not (yet?) providing a text-only
option that UI is certainly functional with no pretention of being pretty.
:-)

Best regards,

Rich
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Re: [GNC] [regression] delete key functionality lost after pasting into a transaction field

2018-09-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 09/02/2018 09:39 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> I think this is already fixed for the upcoming 3.3 release. (end of 
> September?)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 4:37 PM, jim.e  wrote:
>>
>> I also am having the same problem of after pasting to a transaction,
>> backspace and delete keys don't work.
>> Thanks

I haven't had the problem since grabbing 3.2-100 from github a few weeks
back.  So, I'm pretty sure the fix is already in (but not in 3.2 base)
and ready for 3.3.


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[GNC] Finance Quotes Using Yahoo json

2018-09-02 Thread Dan Nelms
Micheal, I noticed in one of your replies to a user having Finance:Quote
problems that are still getting quotes from Yahoo_json for most of your
quotes. Are you doing that through the GnuCash Security setup? If so
what button do you use, ie Single, Multiple or Unknown? I would like to
try it. Thanks. Dan


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Re: [GNC] Windows 10 installation very slow opening or saving file

2018-09-02 Thread motagua
I had the same issue with Windows 10.  Very slow loading and saving.  I went
back to 2.6 and everything was good.

Saving with 2.6 took around 8 seconds.
With 3.2 took close to 40 seconds to save.
I then made the window as small as I could and it would save in about 12
seconds.

So based on that last message it may be repeatedly updating the window. 
Probably to update the progress bar. 



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Re: [GNC] trouble compiling 3.2 release

2018-09-02 Thread David Cousens
John

The output you are getting from the make is similar to what you get when
cmake  has not correctly addressed the source directory from the build
directory. It has not started with the toplevel CmakeLists.txt file. The
relative addressing can be a bit tricky. Try the build instructions on the
wiki for Ubuntu (https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/BuildUbuntu16.04). They work
for Ubuntu versions after 16.04, Debian (not sure of which versions here but
certainlt the ones LM is based on), Linux Mint ( 17,18,19) once you have all
the dependencies installed. 

The process of creating a build directory and running cmake are covered in
some detail for various optional locations of the build directory relative
to the sources on the wiki.
 
You should not have to copy anything into the build directory. cmake creates
the contents of the build directory from the sources when it runs.

You run the cmake command in a shell open in the build directory. 

The final argument for the cmake command can be either a relative path from
the build directory to the directory with the sources in it or an absolute
path to the directory with the sources, e.g.
/home//.../gnucash-3.2 where gnucash-3.2 is the directory containing
the sources somewhere under the  directory.

Also the cmake command you are using is trying to install to the source
directory which is not desirable. If you wish to install locally (i.e. just
for the one user, it is probably preferrable to install to
/home//.local/gnucash-3.2 (and use that as the installprefix).
Assuming:
/home/john/gnucash-3.2   conatins the sources;
/home/john/gnucash-3.2/build  is your build directory;
/home/john/.local/gnucash-3.2  is the install directory;

Ihe cmake command using absolute addressing should be:

cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/john/.local/gnucash-3.2 
/home/john/gnucash-3.2

(or using relative addressing

cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/john/.local/gnucash-3.2 ../   

Here the "../" directs you from the build directory up one level to the
source directory which if it as described above contains the build
directory. "../gnucash-3.2" would be looking for the sources in a directory
/home/john/gnucash-3.2/gnucash-3.2. 

 /home/john/gnucash-3.2 the source directory also contains a directory
gnucash and as it also has a CMakeLists.txts file, cmake seems to assume
this is the top level directory for the build rather than starting with 
/home/john/gnucash-3.2/CMakeLists.txt as it should.

(You could also substitute "~" or "$HOME" (if defined) for "/home/john"
depending on your distribution)

Note .local is a hidden directory. 

The command to run gnucash, if configured as above  would be: 
/home/john/.local/gnucash-3.2/bin/gnucash. 

You should  be able to set that in a launcher to run GnuCash from the menu
or create an alias
(https://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/set-command-aliases-linuxubuntudebian/)
for the above command.


David Cousens




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Re: [GNC] Finance Quotes Using Yahoo json

2018-09-02 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hi Dan,

Am 03.09.2018 um 00:10 schrieb Dan Nelms:
> Micheal, I noticed in one of your replies to a user having Finance:Quote
> problems that are still getting quotes from Yahoo_json for most of your
> quotes. Are you doing that through the GnuCash Security setup? If so
> what button do you use, ie Single, Multiple or Unknown? I would like to
> try it. Thanks. Dan

RTFM:
https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/fq-sources.html#idm139753655191424
;-)

Frank

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Re: [GNC] A feature request for next release

2018-09-02 Thread David Cousens
Rich,

All of the icons in the toolbar that I have looked at in GC 3.2 running on
Linux (Mint 19) seem to have tooltips which explain their function
implemented which show up if you hover over the icons (not just Save Close
and Split). A little slow but ok while you become familiar with the icon
meanings. Is this not the case on the OS you are using? If not it may be an
OS dependent problem.

David



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Re: [GNC] A feature request for next release

2018-09-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Not sure about the tooltips, but some (not all) icons have labels defined. If 
they did, then both would show by default as they do now for some buttons, but 
then users would have the option to use CSS to hide either the icon or the 
label if they only wanted one or the other.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Sep 2, 2018, at 8:30 PM, David Cousens  wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> 
> All of the icons in the toolbar that I have looked at in GC 3.2 running on
> Linux (Mint 19) seem to have tooltips which explain their function
> implemented which show up if you hover over the icons (not just Save Close
> and Split). A little slow but ok while you become familiar with the icon
> meanings. Is this not the case on the OS you are using? If not it may be an
> OS dependent problem.
> 
> David
> 
> 
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