[GNC] Problems with Turkish Language

[velizet]

Hi,

I am using 2.6.21.

1- The Turkish language translations are mostly off the mark, and sometimes
outright wrong Googletranslatewise. 
2- On Windows 10, I cannot change the language to English however I try. I
tried using a bat file, editing the env file as shown in Wiki, nothing
works. I have both US and Turkish Q keyboards.

I would appreciate any help, because as a native Turkish speaker, I find
using gnucash in Turkish is frustrating.

Thanks for any help.



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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Colin Law]

On 11 April 2018 at 06:15, Dave H  wrote:
> Hello people,
>
> Please note the following as Reply All apparently has unintended
> consequences.
>
> Cheers Dave H.
>
>
> Hello Dave...
>
> Please edit the message's 'to' list before you reply to a mailing list
> message. I read the list, I get the message you send to the list, I
> don't need an additional copy sent directly to me when it's not even my
> message you are replying to. That's just lazy. Thanks.

If we are not supposed to use Reply All then could someone please
adjust the list settings so that Reply goes back to the list and not
to the previous poster. That would save us messing with the recipient
list.  That would also stop all the accidental replies to the sender
instead of the list.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Mark Lawrence]

On 09/04/18 13:41, Stephen Albert wrote:

I'd also prefer [GC] over [GNC].



I prefer nothing.  The [GNC] looks quite dreadful as it is completely 
unneeded. I'm on gmane.comp.gnome.apps.gnucash.user, why do I need some 
stupid piece of data confirming something that I all ready know?


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[GNC] find AND REPLACE?

[Paul Costan]

I am looking for the command(s) or work-around to accomplish what I used 
to use in Quicken as Find and Replace.  Specifically, after downloading 
multiple months of transactions from my credit union into a simple 
checkbook ledger, I could use the Quicken "find" to select all 
transactions with description "Safeway" and then select from them to 
"replace" the category to "Groceries". I'm good in Gnucash up through 
the Find part, can't figure out how to easily set the Account without a 
lot of keystrokes. Didn't see anything in the manual/help/faq.  
Suggestions? Thanks.


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Re: [GNC] encoding bug in 3.0

[René Romijn]

Hi Geert,

I allready reverted back to 2.6.20, but i can try again.

The problem is that my username contains é and gnucash 3.0 seems that it cannot 
handle that.

Where exactly are the trace files located?

Regards,

René.

> Op zaterdag 7 april 2018 07:29:34 CEST schreef René Romijn:
> 
> > Hi Colin,
> > 
> > That won't work entirly because gnucash is looking for the reports at the
> > Documents .gnucash directory, because it cannot find them gnucash is using
> > the Temp directory for the custom reports.
> > 
> That's not completely correct. As of gnucash 3.0 custom reports are searched
> for in
> CSIDL_APPDATA\gnucash
> which would typically translate to
> c:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\gnucash
> 
> The first time you run gnucash 3.0 the files in your .gnucash directory should
> be migrated there.
> 
> Does that directory exist and hold a file named saved-reports-2.8 ? Or other
> files starting with saved-reports ?
> 
> I guess not since you mention gnucash is using the Temp directory, which it
> only does if the CSIDL_APPDATA\gnucash directory can't be used (read-only,
> inaccessible, impossible to create).
> 
> Can you also post the contents of your trace file [1] ? Ideally the one from
> when you first ran gnucash 3.0, but I suspect all tracefiles from 3.0 will
> hold the same warnings regarding the path.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> 

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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Raymond Smith]

I also prefer keeping the subject prefix.

Ray

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Ralph,
>
> What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail?
> Can it not handle mailing-lists?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:20 PM, listreader  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:00:33 +0500
> > "David T. via gnucash-user"  wrote:
> >
> >> I have tallied up the responses regarding subject prefixes thus far,
> >> and it appears that 7 people are in favor of this change.
> >>
> >> In contrast, 20 people (including three of the development team) have
> >> expressed negative opinions regarding this addition. [In the interest
> >> of objectivity, I am one of this group.]
> >>
> >> It is unclear to me why such a change would be implemented based on
> >> the opinions of two readers (the total number of positive replies
> >> prior to implementation), and then not reverted when nearly three
> >> times the number of readers expressed their objectons to it.
> >
> > Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it means.  In my
> > experience, far more people are likely to complain about 'changes'
> > they don't like than are people who approve or are neutral about the
> > same 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater.
> >
> > I subscribe to around 20 very busy mailing lists, all intentionally
> > sent to the same mailbox folder so as not to interfere with all my
> > other more urgent business and personal mailbox folders, and all but
> > GnuCash have always used a subject prefix. (including one which uses the
> > useless/annoying '[Users]' as its prefix but that is another story).
> > The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' side
> > of your tally.
> >
> > Ralph
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Re: [GNC] GNC Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Patrick Byrne]

I'm against it too. We use [] tags at work to indicate the relevant project
for an email thread, but with this mailing list gmail can use the
'gnucash-user' email to tag all mails from this thread. I would assume that
many other email clients also offer such facilities.

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On 10 April 2018 at 11:34, Mark Lawrence  wrote:

> On 09/04/18 13:41, Stephen Albert wrote:
>
>> I'd also prefer [GC] over [GNC].
>>
>>
> I prefer nothing.  The [GNC] looks quite dreadful as it is completely
> unneeded. I'm on gmane.comp.gnome.apps.gnucash.user, why do I need some
> stupid piece of data confirming something that I all ready know?
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Re: [GNC] Enabling MySQL on Mac

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Whistler, 
You DO realize that you are responding to a message from 2011, right? 
As John Ralls wrote back then, those who wish to use mysql as their back end 
should be ready and comfortable with being database managers. Trained db admins 
should be undaunted with the installation and setup steps outlined on the wiki. 
There are numerous threads over the years about installing and using the 
various sql back ends that go into detail about the reasoning behind those. 
David T. 

 
 
  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:05, C Whistler wrote:   
Agreed.

If it's possible it will be great for the gnucash developers to include
these sql libraries - not just mysql but postgres also - as unofficial
release to those who are interested and use them at their own risk.

Whistler. 



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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[johnny]

hola

On 04/10/2018 16:20, listreader wrote:

The prefix is EXTREMELY useful to me. So add me to the 'approve' side
of your tally.

me too.

and really- what is all this bitching about? 5 extra chars at the front 
of an email subject ...


humans have a great ability to not see what is right in front of their 
faces. talk to some of your least favorite family members or 
acquaintances if you don't believe me. so just use those skills to 
ignore this filtering prefix that is widely used and appreciated and 
very helpful to many of the list readers.


thank you
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

2018-04-11T08:31:28+0100 Colin Law wrote:
> If we are not supposed to use Reply All then could someone please
> adjust the list settings so that Reply goes back to the list and not

Technically, according to some RFCs, this isn't a good idea, also see
([1]). Munging makes the direct contact with the poster lost, in case of
sensitive subject, you will want to contact that person privately, and
munging makes that difficult.

[1] .
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Re: [GNC] Problems with Turkish Language

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 12:14 AM, velizet  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am using 2.6.21.
> 
> 1- The Turkish language translations are mostly off the mark, and sometimes
> outright wrong Googletranslatewise. 
> 2- On Windows 10, I cannot change the language to English however I try. I
> tried using a bat file, editing the env file as shown in Wiki, nothing
> works. I have both US and Turkish Q keyboards.
> 
> I would appreciate any help, because as a native Turkish speaker, I find
> using gnucash in Turkish is frustrating.
> 
> Thanks for any help.

See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings 
 for a variety of ways to fiddle 
your locale settings.

The Turkish translation is handled by the Turkish team at the Translation 
Project, gnu-tr-u...@lists.sourceforge.net 
. You should contact them about 
translation differences.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[johnny]

hi


On 04/10/2018 17:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? Can it 
not handle mailing-lists?
isn't that up to each of us to decide what client to use? and how to 
manage our own email flows? shouldn't it be irrelevant to this discussion?


or maybe this is "tech shaming" in some way to cloud the issue?

(also revealing about humans that this issue generates the most traffic 
[although 3.0 upgrade was a big one too])

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Re: [GNC] Enabling MySQL on Mac

[John Ralls]

The Mac GnuCash 3.0 bundle contains the shim libraries for all three supported 
SQL backends.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:25 AM, David T. via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whistler, 
> You DO realize that you are responding to a message from 2011, right? 
> As John Ralls wrote back then, those who wish to use mysql as their back end 
> should be ready and comfortable with being database managers. Trained db 
> admins should be undaunted with the installation and setup steps outlined on 
> the wiki. 
> There are numerous threads over the years about installing and using the 
> various sql back ends that go into detail about the reasoning behind those. 
> David T. 
> 
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:05, C Whistler > wrote:   Agreed.
> 
> If it's possible it will be great for the gnucash developers to include
> these sql libraries - not just mysql but postgres also - as unofficial
> release to those who are interested and use them at their own risk.
> 
> Whistler. 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Enabling MySQL on Mac

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Well, that sure sounds like an important development. If only I knew the 
implications of a shim library!

;)

David

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:44 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> The Mac GnuCash 3.0 bundle contains the shim libraries for all three 
> supported SQL backends.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:25 AM, David T. via gnucash-user 
>> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Whistler, 
>> You DO realize that you are responding to a message from 2011, right? 
>> As John Ralls wrote back then, those who wish to use mysql as their back end 
>> should be ready and comfortable with being database managers. Trained db 
>> admins should be undaunted with the installation and setup steps outlined on 
>> the wiki. 
>> There are numerous threads over the years about installing and using the 
>> various sql back ends that go into detail about the reasoning behind those. 
>> David T. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:05, C Whistler> > wrote:   Agreed.
>> 
>> If it's possible it will be great for the gnucash developers to include
>> these sql libraries - not just mysql but postgres also - as unofficial
>> release to those who are interested and use them at their own risk.
>> 
>> Whistler. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Adrien Monteleone]

I think this thread also illustrates that how people hit ‘reply/reply-all’ and 
to which message can break threads. So far I think it has at least 5 parts. I’d 
have to look at the archive page to be sure. Now we’re at a point where people 
are replying to broken off or stalled sections of the thread.

My questions were rhetorical as I noted in a later reply to him. I knew what 
his mail client was and what its abilities are. (I could see it in the header) 
My point was that if he wants to ‘filter’ his mail, he has the tools to do so 
and they are not difficult to use. In fact, in his reply, he noted that he does 
physically filter mail into some 80 folders with about 154 different filtering 
rules. He just doesn’t *feel* like doing it with the list.

Another user seemed to imply that his mail client could not do filtering. I 
found excerpts (and provided links) to the manual which described specifically 
how to manage mailing-list mail. Perhaps he wasn’t aware of this feature. I 
haven’t heard back.

Seriously? Everyone has to have this tag added because *some* people either 
don’t know how or don’t *want* to use the features of their own e-mail client?

Could you imagine what GnuCash would look like if the devs treated the app the 
same way? If they added (or removed) features, or re-arranged the UI simply 
because some people don’t *feel* like using it the way it was designed and 
intended to be used?



> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:44 AM, johnny  wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> 
> On 04/10/2018 17:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? Can 
>> it not handle mailing-lists?
> isn't that up to each of us to decide what client to use? and how to manage 
> our own email flows? shouldn't it be irrelevant to this discussion?
> 
> or maybe this is "tech shaming" in some way to cloud the issue?
> 
> (also revealing about humans that this issue generates the most traffic 
> [although 3.0 upgrade was a big one too])
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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Les]

Adrien:

You have hit the nail on the head!

Given all the time given to this thread, I think it is high time to end 
it.  It has been a hugh distraction from what this list is all about.


Just my $.02 worth.

Les


On 04/11/2018 10:17 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

I think this thread also illustrates that how people hit ‘reply/reply-all’ and 
to which message can break threads. So far I think it has at least 5 parts. I’d 
have to look at the archive page to be sure. Now we’re at a point where people 
are replying to broken off or stalled sections of the thread.

My questions were rhetorical as I noted in a later reply to him. I knew what 
his mail client was and what its abilities are. (I could see it in the header) 
My point was that if he wants to ‘filter’ his mail, he has the tools to do so 
and they are not difficult to use. In fact, in his reply, he noted that he does 
physically filter mail into some 80 folders with about 154 different filtering 
rules. He just doesn’t *feel* like doing it with the list.

Another user seemed to imply that his mail client could not do filtering. I 
found excerpts (and provided links) to the manual which described specifically 
how to manage mailing-list mail. Perhaps he wasn’t aware of this feature. I 
haven’t heard back.

Seriously? Everyone has to have this tag added because *some* people either 
don’t know how or don’t *want* to use the features of their own e-mail client?

Could you imagine what GnuCash would look like if the devs treated the app the 
same way? If they added (or removed) features, or re-arranged the UI simply 
because some people don’t *feel* like using it the way it was designed and 
intended to be used?




On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:44 AM, johnny  wrote:

hi


On 04/10/2018 17:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? Can it 
not handle mailing-lists?

isn't that up to each of us to decide what client to use? and how to manage our 
own email flows? shouldn't it be irrelevant to this discussion?

or maybe this is "tech shaming" in some way to cloud the issue?

(also revealing about humans that this issue generates the most traffic 
[although 3.0 upgrade was a big one too])
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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Alain Williams]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:17:59AM -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

> My questions were rhetorical as I noted in a later reply to him. I knew what 
> his mail client was and what its abilities are. (I could see it in the 
> header) My point was that if he wants to ‘filter’ his mail, he has the tools 
> to do so and they are not difficult to use. In fact, in his reply, he noted 
> that he does physically filter mail into some 80 folders with about 154 
> different filtering rules. He just doesn’t *feel* like doing it with the list.

> Another user seemed to imply that his mail client could not do filtering. I 
> found excerpts (and provided links) to the manual which described 
> specifically how to manage mailing-list mail. Perhaps he wasn’t aware of this 
> feature. I haven’t heard back.

I was aware of it; but that is not how I wanted to see email from a list. I want
the original sender preserved (that is sometimes relevant) but also an
indication of which list -- the [GNC] does that very nicely - as does the
equivalent on all other lists that I am subscribed to.

> Seriously? Everyone has to have this tag added because *some* people either 
> don’t know how or don’t *want* to use the features of their own e-mail client?

Different people want/do things differently. This list now works as most other
lists do.

If you dislike it that much - can you not get your MUA to remove it ?

It is clear that consensus will not be reached - which is why I did not reply to
you earlier.

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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[johnny]

On 04/11/2018 11:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Seriously? Everyone has to have this tag added because *some* people either 
don’t know how or don’t *want* to use the features of their own e-mail client?
even in our small group, you must have seen that some people want this 
feature to do the filtering. this very type of tag (id within brackets 
at start of subject) is used often in filtering.


but according to you, the manner they are filtering (based on email 
subject) is not an acceptable way to use an email client.


i would hope the email list would try to limit the barriers to people 
using any client they want in any manner they want. this is not 
extendable all the way down to each individual tweak: but this 
particular feature (subject tagging) is wanted by more than a single 
individual.



Could you imagine what GnuCash would look like if the devs treated the app the 
same way? If they added (or removed) features, or re-arranged the UI simply 
because some people don’t *feel* like using it the way it was designed and 
intended to be used?
first: why do you get to decide how email is "intended to be used?" (you 
don't)
second: an email subject is not the same thing as an application 
(although there are some similarities)
third: the gnucash dev[s] probably would like to make the application as 
useful to as many people as possible. this is a guess on my part as i am 
not one and do not in any way speak for them. of course, as volunteer 
devs, there are limits of time energy and interest that may prevent some 
of these changes from being implemented.


again, this bracketed id in the email subject is a very common feature 
of very many email lists. it's never been used for gnucash (until now). 
people have responded that it's helpful to them. others have thought 
it's annoying or an example of people not using their email clients in 
the "correct" manner. so it becomes an issue among the members to decide 
for themselves how to use the list.


to me the change offers benefits to many of the subscribers. and the 
downside (6 extra chars in subject [including space]) does not seem to 
take anything away from the functioning of the list to deliver news and 
conversation about gnucash.


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Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[listreader]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:17:59 -0500
Adrien Monteleone  wrote:

> My questions were rhetorical as I noted in a later reply to him. I
> knew what his mail client was and what its abilities are. (I could
> see it in the header) My point was that if he wants to ‘filter’ his
> mail, he has the tools to do so and they are not difficult to use. In
> fact, in his reply, he noted that he does physically filter mail into
> some 80 folders with about 154 different filtering rules. He just
> doesn’t *feel* like doing it with the list.

'He' is obviously me, and you are misrepresenting my words. Neither
truthful nor nice, Adrien.

I do indeed filter this list.  It is filtered into the same folder I
filter all my other mailing lists into, heck I even have a dedicated
email address just for mailing lists, it just doesn't get its own
folder as I prefer it that way.  This is a preference not laziness.  I
also prefer to buy my meat at a market rather than hunt my own dinner,
even though I could easily do the latter: I have 'the tools to do so
and they are not difficult to use' in your words.  Would you have a
problem with that preference, also?

The prefix addition was a GOOD change.  Leave it alone.

Ralph



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[GNC] Income & Expense Reports

[Richard Marmor]

   I'm relatively new to Gnucash (now running 2.6.21 in Win 8.1). I
   have been unable to find answers online to two issues I have when
   creating Income & Expense reports in Gnucash.
   Issue 1: Year-To-Date Column
   I have found no way to add a YTD column to a monthly I & E report.
   Is it even possible?
   I have been able to create a multi-column custom report, with one
   half being a complete current month report and the other half
   being a complete YTD report, but that is a really poor substitute.
   For one thing, for any given account there may be no entries in
   the current month, while YTD that account may have a balance. So
   unless I want really long reports listing every account and and
   lots of zeros, there is little or no parallelism between the two
   side-by-side reports.
   Issue 2: Net Losses as Negative
   Where I grew up, net losses always appeared as negative numbers
   following the description "Net Profit/(Loss)."  Gnucash insists
   on reflecting them as positive numbers beside a "Net Loss" title.
   That issue actually passes through to the balance sheet as well,
   it being more descriptive to see a positive Equity figure reduced
   by a negative "Retained Earnings/(Losses)" figure.
   Is there a way to effect this change?
   If the answers are "not possible" to those issues, I would strongly
   like to see them added to a future features agenda.
   Thank you for any help.
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[GNC] Problem upgrading to GunCash 3.0

[Alan Johnson]

Hello,

I recently installed GNUCash 3.0 from 2.8. I have several accounting 
files. One of them does not load / crashes on load with the trace error:


* 16:36:05  WARN  Could not spawn perl: Failed to execute 
child process (No such file or directory)
* 16:36:27  WARN  error reading group Page 1 key ShowUnused: 
Key file does not have key “ShowUnused” in group “Page 1”
* 16:36:34  WARN  invalid uninstantiatable type '(NULL)' 
in cast to 'QofInstance'


Other files open fine. It appears that there is a report that 
changed/not the same as it was in the previous versions. I'm going to 
try to downgrade to the previous version and close all the tabs and then 
reopen in the new file.


I'd suggest adding a 'safe mode' option or changing behavior to the file 
when opened by a new version to only open the chart of accounts and 
disregard all the open tabs (or do a check of the tabs and see if they 
can render).


Alan

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Re: [GNC] Income & Expense Reports

[Adrien Monteleone]

To your #1:
Unfortunately, not without writing a custom report, which at present, is not 
trivial.
Likely the easiest means would be to copy/paste each to a spreadsheet, showing 
all accounts(that is, even those with zero totals) so everything lines up 
between both, and then combining and customizing from there.

The same would go for #2, once in a spreadsheet, you can change the sign easily.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Richard Marmor  wrote:
> 
>   I'm relatively new to Gnucash (now running 2.6.21 in Win 8.1). I
>   have been unable to find answers online to two issues I have when
>   creating Income & Expense reports in Gnucash.
>   Issue 1: Year-To-Date Column
>   I have found no way to add a YTD column to a monthly I & E report.
>   Is it even possible?
>   I have been able to create a multi-column custom report, with one
>   half being a complete current month report and the other half
>   being a complete YTD report, but that is a really poor substitute.
>   For one thing, for any given account there may be no entries in
>   the current month, while YTD that account may have a balance. So
>   unless I want really long reports listing every account and and
>   lots of zeros, there is little or no parallelism between the two
>   side-by-side reports.
>   Issue 2: Net Losses as Negative
>   Where I grew up, net losses always appeared as negative numbers
>   following the description "Net Profit/(Loss)."  Gnucash insists
>   on reflecting them as positive numbers beside a "Net Loss" title.
>   That issue actually passes through to the balance sheet as well,
>   it being more descriptive to see a positive Equity figure reduced
>   by a negative "Retained Earnings/(Losses)" figure.
>   Is there a way to effect this change?
>   If the answers are "not possible" to those issues, I would strongly
>   like to see them added to a future features agenda.
>   Thank you for any help.
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Re: [GNC] Problems with Turkish Language

[John Ralls]

Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

I provided a link to the wiki page about locale settings to help you with that.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:24 AM, Veli Izzet  wrote:
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> What about help about the second part;i.e: being able to use English while 
> using Windows 10?
> 
> Regards
> 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:42 PM John Ralls  > wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 12:14 AM, velizet > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am using 2.6.21.
>> 
>> 1- The Turkish language translations are mostly off the mark, and sometimes
>> outright wrong Googletranslatewise. 
>> 2- On Windows 10, I cannot change the language to English however I try. I
>> tried using a bat file, editing the env file as shown in Wiki, nothing
>> works. I have both US and Turkish Q keyboards.
>> 
>> I would appreciate any help, because as a native Turkish speaker, I find
>> using gnucash in Turkish is frustrating.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
> 
> See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings 
>  for a variety of ways to 
> fiddle your locale settings.
> 
> The Turkish translation is handled by the Turkish team at the Translation 
> Project, gnu-tr-u...@lists.sourceforge.net 
> . You should contact them about 
> translation differences.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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[GNC] Gnucash 2.6.21 for macOS Intel lacks DeveloperID signature

[anfyjkqj]

The macOS  app release found in 'Gnucash-Intel-2.6.21-1.dmg' (sha256 
8fc8e5186f9939abe041b224ddaaac295ff7ae88b8210be456c0c6e2df19fc8a)lacks the 
typical Developer ID code signature.
Is this intentional? 
Also, the github links lead to 404 errors...
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