Print a list of unpaid bills

2018-02-12 Thread Tdriessen
Hi.
I'd like to print a list of unpaid bills but can't find how to do it.  If I
display Trial Balance on the screen, then click on Accounts Payable I can
see transactions on the screen but I can't find any way to print them. 
There must be a way, but I'm going around in circles.   Help?



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Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 179, Issue 34

2018-02-12 Thread Jon Schewe
If you subscribe to getting all messages instead of the digest, then most
mail clients will do this. I use both Gmail and Thunderbird and they work
nicely for lists like this.

Then adding a filter to put the list messages in a separate folder so that
I can read it later.

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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 19:25:07 -0700
> > From: Ronal B Morse 
> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: Check writing
> > Message-ID: <01b8614e-734d-af03-18f9-e52758440...@morsehouse.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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> > On 02/09/2018 01:39 PM, Ronald Mocny via gnucash-user wrote:
> > > Can I write checks in GnuCash and if so is it compatible with
> > > VersaCheck. Thanks
> > >
> >
> > I'm not familiar with Versacheck, but GnuCash has a flexible and fully
> > user configurable check writing facility.? Personally, the pre-defined
> > Quicken three-part voucher check option meets my needs.
> >
> > At the beginning of every month I pay ten - twelve bills by check with
> > GNC and it's a simple and easy task.? The hardest part is remembering
> > which way to feed the blank forms into whatever printer I'm using at the
> > time.
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> > If your forms have accompanying window envelopes, GNC does the
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> > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 20:53:11 -0600
> > From: David Carlson 
> > To: Ronal B Morse 
> > Cc: Gnucash Users 
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> > Ronal,
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> > I used to use Versa checks with Gnucash several years ago before the
> > computer that had the printer connected died.
> >
> > I used personal size checks and I remember that there was an issue with
> > some sizes or voucher checks  or Check 21 or something.
> >
> > That was several years ago.
> >
> > David C
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2018 8:27 PM, "Ronal B Morse"  wrote:
> >
> > > On 02/09/2018 01:39 PM, Ronald Mocny via gnucash-user wrote:
> > >
> > >> Can I write checks in GnuCash and if so is it compatible with
> > >> VersaCheck. Thanks
> > >>
> > >>
> > > I'm not familiar with Versacheck, but GnuCash has a flexible and fully
> > > user configurable check writing facility.  Personally, the pre-defined
> > > Quicken three-part voucher check option meets my needs.
> > >
> > > At the beginning of every month I pay ten - twelve bills by check with
> > GNC
> > > and it's a simple and easy task.  The hardest part is remembering which
> > way
> > > to feed the blank forms into whatever printer I'm using at the time.
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Jonathan Ames
Thanks, all, for advice. Just not happening, though. I can see the latest
file in a directory, but get "file not found" when clicking on it. By now,
a lot of lost work. Am I correct in assuming that unlike commercial
software, gnucash doesn't save itself back to the application
automatically, even if you "save" automatically? In other words, what
you're paying for is not to deal with the log files, but to save and then
later click on the icon and have it be where and as you left it?

Gnucash is more accessible than Quickbooks from within (e.g., all accounts
have registers), though the "save" complexity, and existence of multiple
text files, log files, etc., to be managed aren't mentioned in the
manual/tutorial. I'm accustomed to assuming that it's all user error, e.g.,
life itself -- correct in this instance? Is there a patch to save and
access Gnucash like a commercial, e.g. Intuit, program?

Thanks,

Jonathan Ames, PhD
Clinical Psychologist
415 N. Tioga Street
Ithaca NY 14850
607-319-5118 - Office
607-227-4792 - Cell
jnthn.a...@gmail.com
www.whatnowconnect.com




On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Ames  wrote:

> I am a 71 yo solo psychologist, not particularly patient, unable to
> install Gnucash: every time I save, another icon appears on desktop;
> accounts, files I create disappear (“not found”) despite being saved.
> Wondering if this program requires programming skills to set up: other
> non-programmers seem it use it. Idea was to link office Windows 10 and home
> Mac (Sierra) systems through iCloud, replacing Windows-only Quickbooks and
> Mac Quicken. Is Gnucash basically for the IT-savvy, i.e. getting stable
> version established on systems so they work like standard software? Also,
> can Windows and Mac versions maintain same data sets? Will guidebook help,
> of is it that if you’re having my sort of issues you’re too stupid?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Jonathan Ames, Ph.D.
> 415 N. Tioga Street #205
> Ithaca NY 14850
> Office: 607-319-5118 <(607)%20319-5118>
> Cell: 607-227-4792 <(607)%20227-4792>
> jnthn.a...@gmail.com
> www.whatnowconnect.com
>
>
>

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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Maf. King
Hi Jonathan.

On a Mac, you can't click a file to open it.  It is some weird interaction 
between how MacOS and GC (a linux program ported to work on Mac) see the 
start-up process.

GC on Mac will *always* try to open the most recently used file.  If that file 
has gone away, then it will complain that the file is not found.

Ignore that message, then use the File->Open menu to get to the file you want.  
Next time you start GC, it should remember that file choice and open it 
automatically for you.

HTH,
Maf.



On Monday, 12 February 2018 03:04:06 GMT Jonathan Ames wrote:
> Thanks, all, for advice. Just not happening, though. I can see the latest
> file in a directory, but get "file not found" when clicking on it. By now,
> a lot of lost work. Am I correct in assuming that unlike commercial
> software, gnucash doesn't save itself back to the application
> automatically, even if you "save" automatically? In other words, what
> you're paying for is not to deal with the log files, but to save and then
> later click on the icon and have it be where and as you left it?
> 
> Gnucash is more accessible than Quickbooks from within (e.g., all accounts
> have registers), though the "save" complexity, and existence of multiple
> text files, log files, etc., to be managed aren't mentioned in the
> manual/tutorial. I'm accustomed to assuming that it's all user error, e.g.,
> life itself -- correct in this instance? Is there a patch to save and
> access Gnucash like a commercial, e.g. Intuit, program?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan Ames, PhD
> Clinical Psychologist
> 415 N. Tioga Street
> Ithaca NY 14850
> 607-319-5118 - Office
> 607-227-4792 - Cell
> jnthn.a...@gmail.com
> www.whatnowconnect.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Ames  wrote:
> > I am a 71 yo solo psychologist, not particularly patient, unable to
> > install Gnucash: every time I save, another icon appears on desktop;
> > accounts, files I create disappear (“not found”) despite being saved.
> > Wondering if this program requires programming skills to set up: other
> > non-programmers seem it use it. Idea was to link office Windows 10 and
> > home
> > Mac (Sierra) systems through iCloud, replacing Windows-only Quickbooks and
> > Mac Quicken. Is Gnucash basically for the IT-savvy, i.e. getting stable
> > version established on systems so they work like standard software? Also,
> > can Windows and Mac versions maintain same data sets? Will guidebook help,
> > of is it that if you’re having my sort of issues you’re too stupid?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jonathan Ames, Ph.D.
> > 415 N. Tioga Street #205
> > Ithaca NY 14850
> > Office: 607-319-5118 <(607)%20319-5118>
> > Cell: 607-227-4792 <(607)%20227-4792>
> > jnthn.a...@gmail.com
> > www.whatnowconnect.com
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Dave H
Jonathan,

If you are using this on a Mac, double clicking on a gnucash file doesn't
necessarily open the file you double click on, it ALWAYS tries to open the
last file opened regardless.  So if you double click on the file and it
says file not found or whatever, just say ok and then use the File Open
menu option to ...

Ah forget it Maf has just posted an answer for you :-)

Cheers Dave H.


On 12 February 2018 at 12:04, Jonathan Ames  wrote:

> Thanks, all, for advice. Just not happening, though. I can see the latest
> file in a directory, but get "file not found" when clicking on it. By now,
> a lot of lost work. Am I correct in assuming that unlike commercial
> software, gnucash doesn't save itself back to the application
> automatically, even if you "save" automatically? In other words, what
> you're paying for is not to deal with the log files, but to save and then
> later click on the icon and have it be where and as you left it?
>
> Gnucash is more accessible than Quickbooks from within (e.g., all accounts
> have registers), though the "save" complexity, and existence of multiple
> text files, log files, etc., to be managed aren't mentioned in the
> manual/tutorial. I'm accustomed to assuming that it's all user error, e.g.,
> life itself -- correct in this instance? Is there a patch to save and
> access Gnucash like a commercial, e.g. Intuit, program?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan Ames, PhD
> Clinical Psychologist
> 415 N. Tioga Street
> Ithaca NY 14850
> 607-319-5118 - Office
> 607-227-4792 - Cell
> jnthn.a...@gmail.com
> www.whatnowconnect.com
>
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Ames 
> wrote:
>
> > I am a 71 yo solo psychologist, not particularly patient, unable to
> > install Gnucash: every time I save, another icon appears on desktop;
> > accounts, files I create disappear (“not found”) despite being saved.
> > Wondering if this program requires programming skills to set up: other
> > non-programmers seem it use it. Idea was to link office Windows 10 and
> home
> > Mac (Sierra) systems through iCloud, replacing Windows-only Quickbooks
> and
> > Mac Quicken. Is Gnucash basically for the IT-savvy, i.e. getting stable
> > version established on systems so they work like standard software? Also,
> > can Windows and Mac versions maintain same data sets? Will guidebook
> help,
> > of is it that if you’re having my sort of issues you’re too stupid?
> >
> >
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonathan Ames, Ph.D.
> > 415 N. Tioga Street #205
> > Ithaca NY 14850
> > Office: 607-319-5118 <(607)%20319-5118>
> > Cell: 607-227-4792 <(607)%20227-4792>
> > jnthn.a...@gmail.com
> > www.whatnowconnect.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread Les
Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think opening a 
new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.


Regards,

Les


On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:

And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to add the needed 
splits to existing transactions.

Gruß,
Christoph


Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson :

I think that if you want to stop using trading account s it is difficult to
turn them off.

I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide whether you like
them.

David  C

On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone" 
wrote:


Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other accounts) as needed to your
current file.

Regards,
Adrien

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les  wrote:


I have been using GC for several years, and although I trade stocks, I
have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.  Can I just start using

it,

or would I need to start a new GC file?

Thanks,

Les

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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread David Carlson
It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁

David C

On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les"  wrote:

> Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think opening a new
> GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.
>
> Regards,
>
> Les
>
>
> On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:
>
>> And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to add the
>> needed splits to existing transactions.
>>
>> Gruß,
>> Christoph
>>
>> Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson >> >:
>>>
>>> I think that if you want to stop using trading account s it is difficult
>>> to
>>> turn them off.
>>>
>>> I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide whether you
>>> like
>>> them.
>>>
>>> David  C
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone" <
>>> adrien.montele...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other accounts) as needed to
 your
 current file.

 Regards,
 Adrien

 On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les  wrote:

 I have been using GC for several years, and although I trade stocks, I
> have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.  Can I just start using
>
 it,

> or would I need to start a new GC file?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Les
>
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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread Les

That is what I have in mind.


On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:

It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁

David C

On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" > wrote:


Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think
opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.

Regards,

Les


On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:

And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
add the needed splits to existing transactions.

Gruß,
Christoph

Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>>:

I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
it is difficult to
turn them off.

I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
whether you like
them.

David  C

On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
accounts) as needed to your
current file.

Regards,
Adrien

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have been using GC for several years, and
although I trade stocks, I
have never used the "Trading Accounts" option. 
Can I just start using

it,

or would I need to start a new GC file?

Thanks,

Les

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inventory management examples or links

2018-02-12 Thread Bert Heijne
Hello All.

This is a nice treat about Inventory but are there some “real examples”  or “ 
putting it all together”  of gnucash for Inventory or stock of goods management?
And how this is covered with the invoice.
I now that gnu cash is not build for that but small stock would be nice
Woocommerce webshop is in construction so this will be covered mostly by WC.

Would be nice to see some real samples in gnucash to study.
Any links or G search links  would be nice

Gr. Bert

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At Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:55:58 -0500 stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com wrote:

>
> On 2/11/2018 9:03 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > At Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:15:56 +0100 Jeff Abrahamson  wrote:
> > ... transfer
> > "money" from the vegetable account to a bank account (income when you sell
> > vegetables) and when you transfer money from a bank account to the vegetable
> > account (an expense when you buy vegetables). *I* do this which my inventory
> > of thumb drives. GnuCash does not have "inventory" accounts or any way of
> > dealing with inventory as such
> Inventory MANAGEMENT is something else (gnucash lacks this but that
> belongs in an inventory system*, not "general ledger".

Yes, I understand.

>
> But you are saying that gnucash does not support inventory value and
> cost accounting and that is simply not so.

Only in the sense of not specificly labeling things as "inventory value and
cost accounting". You are right, one can use gnucash to "manage" inventory
value and cost accounting. From the point of a newbie, there isn't a specific
menu of things relating to inventory value and cost accounting, so there is
the *appearence* of a of lack of support for inventory. My intent was to point
the OP in "right direction", one that is not obvious. Inventory value and cost
accounting is handled in GnuCash under "other names" -- it is a matter of
understanding that inventory is really a kind of asset (that is bought and
sold) and can (should) be treated as such, at which point all of pieces fall
into place. The OP wanted to treat his inventory as income or expense and that
what was confusing (to him).

>
> Let's say incidental to its main activity an organization sells various
> things (tee shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) as a fund raiser. You create
> under Assets (after "current assets" and "fixed assets") a parent
> "Inventory of goods". Under that might be accounts (more likely also
> parents as batches of goods might have different basis) for "tee
> shirts", "coffee mugs", etc. When the organization buys a new batch of
> tee shirts that is a debit to "tee shirts" (or as I mentioned, perhaps
> "tee shirts batch 4" --- the account description can include what the
> unit price was for this batch) and a credit to checking << note: we get
> confused using the supposedly more user friendly terms worrying about
> what sort of "transfer" this is). Each sale of a tee shirt not only
> debits cash and credits "sale of tee shirts" for the sale price but also
> debits "cost of goods sold" and credits the inventory account "tee
> shirts batch N" for the unit cost of batch N << going to be a policy
> decision whether to simply use FIFO or to actually worry about from
> which batch that shirt came. Maybe BOTH come into play. To use your
> example, thumb drives, you might have 8 Gb drives (batches of those) and
> 16 Gb drives (batches of those) so you might want under "thumb drives"
> children "8 Gb drives" and "16 Gb drives" and under each of those "batch
> 1, batch2, etc. and use FIFO there >>
>
>
>
> Michael D Novack
>
> * The data kept here things like "number on hand", "physical location
> where shelved", "reorder point", etc.
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread D via gnucash-user
Jonathan,

Did you see my earlier message? Getting a "file not found" error usually means 
that you have moved the Gnucash file.

Have you?

David

On February 12, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Ames  wrote:

Thanks, all, for advice. Just not happening, though. I can see the latest
file in a directory, but get "file not found" when clicking on it. By now,
a lot of lost work. Am I correct in assuming that unlike commercial
software, gnucash doesn't save itself back to the application
automatically, even if you "save" automatically? In other words, what
you're paying for is not to deal with the log files, but to save and then
later click on the icon and have it be where and as you left it?

Gnucash is more accessible than Quickbooks from within (e.g., all accounts
have registers), though the "save" complexity, and existence of multiple
text files, log files, etc., to be managed aren't mentioned in the
manual/tutorial. I'm accustomed to assuming that it's all user error, e.g.,
life itself -- correct in this instance? Is there a patch to save and
access Gnucash like a commercial, e.g. Intuit, program?

Thanks,

Jonathan Ames, PhD
Clinical Psychologist
415 N. Tioga Street
Ithaca NY 14850
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607-227-4792 - Cell
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On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Ames  wrote:

> I am a 71 yo solo psychologist, not particularly patient, unable to
> install Gnucash: every time I save, another icon appears on desktop;
> accounts, files I create disappear (“not found”) despite being saved.
> Wondering if this program requires programming skills to set up: other
> non-programmers seem it use it. Idea was to link office Windows 10 and home
> Mac (Sierra) systems through iCloud, replacing Windows-only Quickbooks and
> Mac Quicken. Is Gnucash basically for the IT-savvy, i.e. getting stable
> version established on systems so they work like standard software? Also,
> can Windows and Mac versions maintain same data sets? Will guidebook help,
> of is it that if you’re having my sort of issues you’re too stupid?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Jonathan Ames, Ph.D.
> 415 N. Tioga Street #205
> Ithaca NY 14850
> Office: 607-319-5118 <(607)%20319-5118>
> Cell: 607-227-4792 <(607)%20227-4792>
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>
>
>

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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread Les
I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint.  I 
opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted 
the totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after.  
There was no difference.  I then ran a Income and Expense report for 
year 2016 (which is the same as my production GC and compared the two.  
Again there was no difference in totals between the two GC files.


So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I noticed that when 
viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view, there are added lines 
showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and stock symbol, that 
does not appear without trading accounts.


Thanks,

Les


On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:

It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁

David C

On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" > wrote:


Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think
opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.

Regards,

Les


On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:

And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
add the needed splits to existing transactions.

Gruß,
Christoph

Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>>:

I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
it is difficult to
turn them off.

I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
whether you like
them.

David  C

On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
accounts) as needed to your
current file.

Regards,
Adrien

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have been using GC for several years, and
although I trade stocks, I
have never used the "Trading Accounts" option. 
Can I just start using

it,

or would I need to start a new GC file?

Thanks,

Les

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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread Christopher Lam

Hi Les

Really interesting question, with a simple and a complicated answer.

Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you deal with 
multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions with differing 
dates and prices).


Complicated answer:

https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html

https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html

C

On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:
I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint.  
I opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, 
noted the totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and 
after.  There was no difference.  I then ran a Income and Expense 
report for year 2016 (which is the same as my production GC and 
compared the two.  Again there was no difference in totals between the 
two GC files.


So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I noticed that 
when viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view, there are 
added lines showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and 
stock symbol, that does not appear without trading accounts.


Thanks,

Les


On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:

It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁

David C

On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" > wrote:


    Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think
    opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.

    Regards,

    Les


    On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:

    And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
    add the needed splits to existing transactions.

    Gruß,
    Christoph

    Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
    mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>>:

    I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
    it is difficult to
    turn them off.

    I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
    whether you like
    them.

    David  C

    On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
    mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
    wrote:

    Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
    accounts) as needed to your
    current file.

    Regards,
    Adrien

    On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
    mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


    I have been using GC for several years, and
    although I trade stocks, I
    have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.
    Can I just start using

    it,

    or would I need to start a new GC file?

    Thanks,

    Les

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Re: inventory management examples or links

2018-02-12 Thread Rick Copple
I have an inventory of books I keep on a spreadsheet. I've designed the 
spreadsheet to give me an average cost that I can then plug into gnucash.  Do 
you want a screenshot of my inventory account? I could probably get to that 
this afternoon central time.

Rick Copple

On Feb 12, 2018, 6:26 AM, at 6:26 AM, Bert Heijne  
wrote:
>Hello All.
>
>This is a nice treat about Inventory but are there some “real examples”
>or “ putting it all together”  of gnucash for Inventory or stock of
>goods management?
>And how this is covered with the invoice.
>I now that gnu cash is not build for that but small stock would be nice
>Woocommerce webshop is in construction so this will be covered mostly
>by WC.
>
>Would be nice to see some real samples in gnucash to study.
>Any links or G search links  would be nice
>
>Gr. Bert
>
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>
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>Verzonden: ‎zondag‎ ‎11‎ ‎februari‎ ‎2018 ‎17‎:‎15
>Aan:
>stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com
>CC: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>
>At Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:55:58 -0500 stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com
>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2/11/2018 9:03 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
>> > At Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:15:56 +0100 Jeff Abrahamson 
>wrote:
>> > ... transfer
>> > "money" from the vegetable account to a bank account (income when
>you sell
>> > vegetables) and when you transfer money from a bank account to the
>vegetable
>> > account (an expense when you buy vegetables). *I* do this which my
>inventory
>> > of thumb drives. GnuCash does not have "inventory" accounts or any
>way of
>> > dealing with inventory as such
>> Inventory MANAGEMENT is something else (gnucash lacks this but that
>> belongs in an inventory system*, not "general ledger".
>
>Yes, I understand.
>
>>
>> But you are saying that gnucash does not support inventory value and
>> cost accounting and that is simply not so.
>
>Only in the sense of not specificly labeling things as "inventory value
>and
>cost accounting". You are right, one can use gnucash to "manage"
>inventory
>value and cost accounting. From the point of a newbie, there isn't a
>specific
>menu of things relating to inventory value and cost accounting, so
>there is
>the *appearence* of a of lack of support for inventory. My intent was
>to point
>the OP in "right direction", one that is not obvious. Inventory value
>and cost
>accounting is handled in GnuCash under "other names" -- it is a matter
>of
>understanding that inventory is really a kind of asset (that is bought
>and
>sold) and can (should) be treated as such, at which point all of pieces
>fall
>into place. The OP wanted to treat his inventory as income or expense
>and that
>what was confusing (to him).
>
>>
>> Let's say incidental to its main activity an organization sells
>various
>> things (tee shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) as a fund raiser. You create
>> under Assets (after "current assets" and "fixed assets") a parent
>> "Inventory of goods". Under that might be accounts (more likely also
>> parents as batches of goods might have different basis) for "tee
>> shirts", "coffee mugs", etc. When the organization buys a new batch
>of
>> tee shirts that is a debit to "tee shirts" (or as I mentioned,
>perhaps
>> "tee shirts batch 4" --- the account description can include what the
>> unit price was for this batch) and a credit to checking << note: we
>get
>> confused using the supposedly more user friendly terms worrying about
>> what sort of "transfer" this is). Each sale of a tee shirt not only
>> debits cash and credits "sale of tee shirts" for the sale price but
>also
>> debits "cost of goods sold" and credits the inventory account "tee
>> shirts batch N" for the unit cost of batch N << going to be a policy
>> decision whether to simply use FIFO or to actually worry about from
>> which batch that shirt came. Maybe BOTH come into play. To use your
>> example, thumb drives, you might have 8 Gb drives (batches of those)
>and
>> 16 Gb drives (batches of those) so you might want under "thumb
>drives"
>> children "8 Gb drives" and "16 Gb drives" and under each of those
>"batch
>> 1, batch2, etc. and use FIFO there >>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael D Novack
>>
>> * The data kept here things like "number on hand", "physical location
>> where shelved", "reorder point", etc.
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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread David Carlson
UnfOrtumately I cannot read the article that zchristofer cited from my
clunky Tablet ant tablet really messes up mystery composition skills.

I think that if you have always correctly calculated every capital gain in
every closing transaction and never had any ambiguously matched lots there
will not be any overall difference with or without trading accounts.

I would guess trading accounts help the most for users with more
complicated trades.

I am sure that you would need to drill down to the capital gains and
incomes in closing transactions to see where the  T A could make a
difference.

David C



On Feb 12, 2018 6:53 AM, "Christopher Lam" 
wrote:

> Hi Les
>
> Really interesting question, with a simple and a complicated answer.
>
> Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you deal with
> multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions with differing
> dates and prices).
>
> Complicated answer:
>
> https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html
>
> https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html
>
> C
>
> On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:
>
>> I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint.  I
>> opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted the
>> totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after.  There
>> was no difference.  I then ran a Income and Expense report for year 2016
>> (which is the same as my production GC and compared the two.  Again there
>> was no difference in totals between the two GC files.
>>
>> So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I noticed that when
>> viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view, there are added lines
>> showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and stock symbol, that
>> does not appear without trading accounts.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>> On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:
>>
>>> It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁
>>>
>>> David C
>>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" >> lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think
>>> opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:
>>>
>>> And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
>>> add the needed splits to existing transactions.
>>>
>>> Gruß,
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>> Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
>>> >> >:
>>>
>>> I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
>>> it is difficult to
>>> turn them off.
>>>
>>> I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
>>> whether you like
>>> them.
>>>
>>> David  C
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
>>> >> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
>>> accounts) as needed to your
>>> current file.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
>>> mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been using GC for several years, and
>>> although I trade stocks, I
>>> have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.
>>> Can I just start using
>>>
>>> it,
>>>
>>> or would I need to start a new GC file?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Mike or Penny Novack

On 2/11/2018 10:04 PM, Jonathan Ames wrote:

Thanks, all, for advice. Just not happening, though. I can see the latest
file in a directory, but get "file not found" when clicking on it. By now,
a lot of lost work. Am I correct in assuming that unlike commercial
software, gnucash doesn't save itself back to the application
automatically, even if you "save" automatically? In other words, what
you're paying for is not to deal with the log files, but to save and then
later click on the icon and have it be where and as you left it?

No, "commercial products" are equally unlikely to save the data "in the 
application". Another application MIGHT have some default DATA location 
where it does its saves (I will give examples in a moment) but note that 
this is practical/possible ONLY if able to make the assumption that 
there will be only ONE "data file".


Take something like FireFox (I am intentionally choosing a 
non-commercial app to show you that "commercial" has nothing to do with 
this). When you install the program (well first time run as opposed to 
install) it creates a data directory in the "application data" directory 
and that is where it will store things. It is "first time run" because 
almost all modern operating systems support multiple users. So when 
opened (by a user) it looks in the expected place, if found, it uses 
that data, if not found decides "ah, first time for this user" and 
creates it << that process allowing the user to choose various 
preferences which will be saved there >>


Gnucash cannot do this because it supports MULTIPLE BOOKS. Only some of 
its data can be saved in a common location.


So the first time you save a set of books you have to tell gnucash 
"where to put THIS one" (what to call it, what directory will it live 
in, etc.) Perhaps you are also thinking about the "did not create an 
shortcut icon on my desktop" at the same time. That again is behavior 
more useful IF can assume that there would be only one. If you want 
icons on your desktop acting as shortcuts to your files, create them.


Michael D Novack
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread David Carlson
Johnathan,

GnuCash may or may not play well with various cloud storage services
because of it's insistence (in current releases) on keeping it's automatic
backups in the same folder as the data file.  You need to untangle that
issue before assuming that GnuCash does not work.

Try keeping your data on a local hard drive but in a dedicated folder to
see if it works in that configuration.

David C

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Mike or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com> wrote:

> On 2/11/2018 10:04 PM, Jonathan Ames wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all, for advice. Just not happening, though. I can see the latest
>> file in a directory, but get "file not found" when clicking on it. By now,
>> a lot of lost work. Am I correct in assuming that unlike commercial
>> software, gnucash doesn't save itself back to the application
>> automatically, even if you "save" automatically? In other words, what
>> you're paying for is not to deal with the log files, but to save and then
>> later click on the icon and have it be where and as you left it?
>>
>> No, "commercial products" are equally unlikely to save the data "in the
> application". Another application MIGHT have some default DATA location
> where it does its saves (I will give examples in a moment) but note that
> this is practical/possible ONLY if able to make the assumption that there
> will be only ONE "data file".
>
> Take something like FireFox (I am intentionally choosing a non-commercial
> app to show you that "commercial" has nothing to do with this). When you
> install the program (well first time run as opposed to install) it creates
> a data directory in the "application data" directory and that is where it
> will store things. It is "first time run" because almost all modern
> operating systems support multiple users. So when opened (by a user) it
> looks in the expected place, if found, it uses that data, if not found
> decides "ah, first time for this user" and creates it << that process
> allowing the user to choose various preferences which will be saved there >>
>
> Gnucash cannot do this because it supports MULTIPLE BOOKS. Only some of
> its data can be saved in a common location.
>
> So the first time you save a set of books you have to tell gnucash "where
> to put THIS one" (what to call it, what directory will it live in, etc.)
> Perhaps you are also thinking about the "did not create an shortcut icon on
> my desktop" at the same time. That again is behavior more useful IF can
> assume that there would be only one. If you want icons on your desktop
> acting as shortcuts to your files, create them.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Mike or Penny Novack

On 2/12/2018 10:08 AM, David Carlson wrote:

Johnathan,

GnuCash may or may not play well with various cloud storage services 
because of it's insistence (in current releases) on keeping it's 
automatic backups in the same folder as the data file.


Just so understood why it makes sense (to me)  to "insist" the automatic 
backups go into the same directory as the file. It guarantees gnucash 
being able to make up a UNIQUE name for the backups. If you were allowed 
to specify a directory B  in which to put the automatic backups for 
books.gnucash in directory A, what prevents directory B from also 
containing  a file named books.gnucash ?


Yes of course, care by the user could prevent a disaster like that, but 
as somebody who used to get paid to unscramble messes caused by that 
sort of carelessness, absolute prevention is better.


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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread David Carlson
Michael,

I agree that the backup scheme should be as idiot proof as possible.

However, one reason (of several) that I personally am not using a cloud
service yet is that I do not see how the cloud would handle all all those
log files coming and going and data files being renamed every few minutes.

Also, ordinary users get lost if they browse the folder looking for a data
file.

Perhaps a simple (?) scheme of putting backup s in a sub folder named
filename_backup or similar might help with these issues, even if it adds
overhead to move files around.

I think the developer s are considering relocating backups in the 3.0
release do this is a good time to discuss this.

Sorry my tablet just decided that I nrrdrf a smaller keyboard.

David

On Feb 12, 2018 9:49 AM, "Mike or Penny Novack" <
stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com> wrote:

> On 2/12/2018 10:08 AM, David Carlson wrote:
>
> Johnathan,
>
> GnuCash may or may not play well with various cloud storage services
> because of it's insistence (in current releases) on keeping it's automatic
> backups in the same folder as the data file.
>
>
> Just so understood why it makes sense (to me)  to "insist" the automatic
> backups go into the same directory as the file. It guarantees gnucash being
> able to make up a UNIQUE name for the backups. If you were allowed to
> specify a directory B  in which to put the automatic backups for
> books.gnucash in directory A, what prevents directory B from also
> containing  a file named books.gnucash ?
>
> Yes of course, care by the user could prevent a disaster like that, but as
> somebody who used to get paid to unscramble messes caused by that sort of
> carelessness, absolute prevention is better.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread Les
I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD.  I buy in 
tranches for average cost.  So, not sure that means I have complicated 
trades but I make sure I never have any orphan accounts. I checked my 
test file for capital and it did not list any. Although, at the bottom 
of my accounts list, there is a list of currencies and exchanges with 
totals for each. But, again, there isn't any difference in income and 
expenses.


Les
On 02/12/2018 08:18 AM, David Carlson wrote:

UnfOrtumately I cannot read the article that zchristofer cited from my
clunky Tablet ant tablet really messes up mystery composition skills.

I think that if you have always correctly calculated every capital gain in
every closing transaction and never had any ambiguously matched lots there
will not be any overall difference with or without trading accounts.

I would guess trading accounts help the most for users with more
complicated trades.

I am sure that you would need to drill down to the capital gains and
incomes in closing transactions to see where the  T A could make a
difference.

David C



On Feb 12, 2018 6:53 AM, "Christopher Lam" 
wrote:


Hi Les

Really interesting question, with a simple and a complicated answer.

Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you deal with
multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions with differing
dates and prices).

Complicated answer:

https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html

https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html

C

On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:


I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint.  I
opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted the
totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after.  There
was no difference.  I then ran a Income and Expense report for year 2016
(which is the same as my production GC and compared the two.  Again there
was no difference in totals between the two GC files.

So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I noticed that when
viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view, there are added lines
showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and stock symbol, that
does not appear without trading accounts.

Thanks,

Les


On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:


It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁

David C

On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" > wrote:

 Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think
 opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.

 Regards,

 Les


 On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:

 And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
 add the needed splits to existing transactions.

 Gruß,
 Christoph

 Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
 mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>>:

 I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
 it is difficult to
 turn them off.

 I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
 whether you like
 them.

 David  C

 On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
 mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:

 Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
 accounts) as needed to your
 current file.

 Regards,
 Adrien

 On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
 mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

 I have been using GC for several years, and
 although I trade stocks, I
 have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.
 Can I just start using

 it,

 or would I need to start a new GC file?

 Thanks,

 Les

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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread David Carlson
If you read Christopher's links, they go into the theory behind the
development of trading accounts.

I personally do not need them for my use, so I am not conversant with how
they work.

I think that you may need them, based on the fact that you are looking into
using them, but I cannot help with details.

Perhaps another user that does use them can chime in (hint Hint)

David C

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Les  wrote:

> I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD.  I buy in tranches
> for average cost.  So, not sure that means I have complicated trades but I
> make sure I never have any orphan accounts. I checked my test file for
> capital and it did not list any. Although, at the bottom of my accounts
> list, there is a list of currencies and exchanges with totals for each.
> But, again, there isn't any difference in income and expenses.
>
> Les
>
> On 02/12/2018 08:18 AM, David Carlson wrote:
>
>> UnfOrtumately I cannot read the article that zchristofer cited from my
>> clunky Tablet ant tablet really messes up mystery composition skills.
>>
>> I think that if you have always correctly calculated every capital gain in
>> every closing transaction and never had any ambiguously matched lots there
>> will not be any overall difference with or without trading accounts.
>>
>> I would guess trading accounts help the most for users with more
>> complicated trades.
>>
>> I am sure that you would need to drill down to the capital gains and
>> incomes in closing transactions to see where the  T A could make a
>> difference.
>>
>> David C
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2018 6:53 AM, "Christopher Lam" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Les
>>>
>>> Really interesting question, with a simple and a complicated answer.
>>>
>>> Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you deal with
>>> multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions with differing
>>> dates and prices).
>>>
>>> Complicated answer:
>>>
>>> https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html
>>>
>>> https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html
>>>
>>> C
>>>
>>> On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint.  I
 opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted
 the
 totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after.
 There
 was no difference.  I then ran a Income and Expense report for year 2016
 (which is the same as my production GC and compared the two.  Again
 there
 was no difference in totals between the two GC files.

 So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I noticed that when
 viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view, there are added lines
 showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and stock symbol, that
 does not appear without trading accounts.

 Thanks,

 Les


 On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:

 It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁
>
> David C
>
> On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les"  lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>  Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think
>  opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Les
>
>
>  On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:
>
>  And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
>  add the needed splits to existing transactions.
>
>  Gruß,
>  Christoph
>
>  Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
>    >:
>
>  I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
>  it is difficult to
>  turn them off.
>
>  I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
>  whether you like
>  them.
>
>  David  C
>
>  On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
>    >
>  wrote:
>
>  Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
>  accounts) as needed to your
>  current file.
>
>  Regards,
>  Adrien
>
>  On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
>  mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>  I have been using GC for several years, and
>  although I trade stocks, I
>  have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.
>  Can I just start using
>
>  it,
>
>  or would I need to start a new GC file?
>
>   

A predictive bar graph needed

2018-02-12 Thread Cliff McDiarmid
[1]adrien.monteleone at gmail.com On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 6.33 PM, wrote
>There is an expense and income graph that shows bars over months. You can
>also get a data table for each.

>Then, there is a future scheduled transaction report you can run. So set up
>your recurring income/expenses to see that data.

>There is currently no built-in way to get a bar chart with future scheduled
>transactions, and the app will not 'guess' for you based on past entries.

>You CAN export or copy and paste the Future Scheduled Transaction report to
>a spreadsheet and generate a graph there if you like.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Cliff McDiarmid <[2]cliffhanger at gardener.com
>
wrote:

>Hi
>
>I've just moved over from Quicken.  There was a rather neat feature in
>it, whereby through a 12 month calender, one could input expenses and
>income over the days of the months and see the predicted outcome in a
>bar graph below.
>
>I need a similar thing in gnucash, but through the budget feature a
>cannot get the outcome at the moment.  I can only get a monthly view
>which is not imformative enough.   Any advice appreciated.


   Thanks Adrien I thought as much.   That's a shame everything else is
   what I need.

   Cliff

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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Fross, Michael
Hello,

I believe that simply having a different (configurable) directory for
backups would ease the confusion of a lot of new users (and lessen the time
spend answering those question.)

While probably not the best long term solution (especially when we get to a
database backend,) I bet it's a fairly easy update that would help.

Michael

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:45 AM, David Carlson  wrote:

> Michael,
>
> I agree that the backup scheme should be as idiot proof as possible.
>
> However, one reason (of several) that I personally am not using a cloud
> service yet is that I do not see how the cloud would handle all all those
> log files coming and going and data files being renamed every few minutes.
>
> Also, ordinary users get lost if they browse the folder looking for a data
> file.
>
> Perhaps a simple (?) scheme of putting backup s in a sub folder named
> filename_backup or similar might help with these issues, even if it adds
> overhead to move files around.
>
> I think the developer s are considering relocating backups in the 3.0
> release do this is a good time to discuss this.
>
> Sorry my tablet just decided that I nrrdrf a smaller keyboard.
>
> David
>
> On Feb 12, 2018 9:49 AM, "Mike or Penny Novack" <
> stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2/12/2018 10:08 AM, David Carlson wrote:
> >
> > Johnathan,
> >
> > GnuCash may or may not play well with various cloud storage services
> > because of it's insistence (in current releases) on keeping it's
> automatic
> > backups in the same folder as the data file.
> >
> >
> > Just so understood why it makes sense (to me)  to "insist" the automatic
> > backups go into the same directory as the file. It guarantees gnucash
> being
> > able to make up a UNIQUE name for the backups. If you were allowed to
> > specify a directory B  in which to put the automatic backups for
> > books.gnucash in directory A, what prevents directory B from also
> > containing  a file named books.gnucash ?
> >
> > Yes of course, care by the user could prevent a disaster like that, but
> as
> > somebody who used to get paid to unscramble messes caused by that sort of
> > carelessness, absolute prevention is better.
> >
> > Michael D Novack
> >
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single line register display

2018-02-12 Thread Dennis West
I wonder how difficult it would be to modify (or add an additional 
option) to the register display.  I much prefer the single line display 
because of the larger number of transactions it displays.  I do really 
miss the "memo" field however.  On a wide display, the "description" 
field is expanded way beyond the length of what is needed.  Since wide 
screen displays are in such wide use, would it be possible to add the 
memo field to the single line display?


Thanks - Dennis

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Re: single line register display

2018-02-12 Thread Derek Atkins
The memo of which split?  There are (at least) two.

-derek

On Mon, February 12, 2018 2:30 pm, Dennis West wrote:
> I wonder how difficult it would be to modify (or add an additional
> option) to the register display.  I much prefer the single line display
> because of the larger number of transactions it displays.  I do really
> miss the "memo" field however.  On a wide display, the "description"
> field is expanded way beyond the length of what is needed.  Since wide
> screen displays are in such wide use, would it be possible to add the
> memo field to the single line display?
>
> Thanks - Dennis
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Re: single line register display

2018-02-12 Thread Dennis West
Maybe "memo" is the run term.  I meant "notes", the field appearing 
below "description" in the two line register display. (no splits).


Dennis


On 2/12/2018 13:33, Derek Atkins wrote:

The memo of which split?  There are (at least) two.

-derek

On Mon, February 12, 2018 2:30 pm, Dennis West wrote:

I wonder how difficult it would be to modify (or add an additional
option) to the register display.  I much prefer the single line display
because of the larger number of transactions it displays.  I do really
miss the "memo" field however.  On a wide display, the "description"
field is expanded way beyond the length of what is needed.  Since wide
screen displays are in such wide use, would it be possible to add the
memo field to the single line display?

Thanks - Dennis

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Retracting posted invoice without removing transactions

2018-02-12 Thread Sascha Silbe
Hello,

how can I retract (invalidate) an already posted invoice without
removing the existing transaction or altering the amounts of the
transaction? (The invoice was created using the Business functions)

A customer requested an invoice to be split so I need to retract the
original invoice and create two new ones. According to German accounting
rules (*) transactions must not be altered in any way that hides their
previous content. So I need some way to invalidate the original invoice
without removing or changing the posted transactions. I need the
transactions to be voided (with the original amounts still visible) or
reversed. It needs to be clear that the invoice has been retracted
(e.g. by adding a suitable description to the transaction).

What I tried so far:

1. Marking the invoice as "not active"

   Had no effect at all on the accounts so it doesn't help.

2. Using "Void Transaction" on the transaction associated with the
   invoice.

   Makes the original amounts invisible (even though they seem to be
   retained in the data file) so this isn't compliant with GoBD. Haven't
   checked how it would affect the Business functions (Customer Report
   etc.).

3. Using "Add Reversing Transaction" on the transaction associated with
   the invoice.

   The reversed transaction looks exactly like the invoice transaction
   (only with reversed amounts) and cannot be edited manually. It's very
   hard to understand what the transaction is about and it's impossible
   to add even a reference number to it. Likely to cause at least
   confusion if it comes up during a tax inspection. Haven't checked how
   it would affect the Business functions (Customer Report etc.).


What I haven't tried:

1. "Paying" the invoice

   Would incorrectly increase the income accounts.


Sascha

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Büchern, Aufzeichnungen und Unterlagen in elektronischer Form sowie
zum Datenzugriff [1]
[1] 
https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Downloads/BMF_Schreiben/Weitere_Steuerthemen/Abgabenordnung/Datenzugriff_GDPdU/2014-11-14-GoBD.pdf
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Rick Copple

On 02/12/2018 10:45 AM, David Carlson wrote:

However, one reason (of several) that I personally am not using a cloud
service yet is that I do not see how the cloud would handle all all those
log files coming and going and data files being renamed every few minutes.


I used to keep my files on  a cloud service but it began to become 
unstable, so I moved it to my hard drive. I also created a script file 
that would run on a chron job automatically to backup my directory to 
one on my cloud drive:


#!/bin/bash

echo "\n---\n Backup changed files on 
$(date) \n" | tee -a "/home/rick/CCS-BackUpLogs/CCS-BackUp.log"


rsync -avW --delete-before "/home/rick/Documents/CCS" 
"/home/rick/OneDrive" | tee -a "/home/rick/CCS-BackUpLogs/CCS-BackUp.log"


echo "\nFinished!" | tee -a "/home/rick/CCS-BackUpLogs/CCS-BackUp.log"

exit

Works well for me at any rate.

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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread Les
I ran a balance sheet for 2016 and compared the two.  Everything looks 
the same until I reach the equity account.  Here is where the difference 
occurs (and I completely missed it initially).  In the GC file without 
the use of Trading Accounts, I have unrealized gains, whereas in the GC 
file using Trading Accounts, I have trading gains.


I think I need to start using Trading Accounts, if I want to obtain a 
more accurate set of accounts.


For what it is worth, I have been relying on my brokerage accounts to 
determine gains and losses for tax purposes.


I am thinking about copying my production GC file to my test computer 
and run balance sheet and income and expense for ye 2017 and compare.  I 
think it will be significant.



Les
p.s.: I did read the the link from Christopher.


On 02/12/2018 12:05 PM, David Carlson wrote:
If you read Christopher's links, they go into the theory behind the 
development of trading accounts.


I personally do not need them for my use, so I am not conversant with 
how they work.


I think that you may need them, based on the fact that you are looking 
into using them, but I cannot help with details.


Perhaps another user that does use them can chime in (hint Hint)

David C

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Les > wrote:


I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD.  I buy in
tranches for average cost.  So, not sure that means I have
complicated trades but I make sure I never have any orphan
accounts. I checked my test file for capital and it did not list
any. Although, at the bottom of my accounts list, there is a list
of currencies and exchanges with totals for each. But, again,
there isn't any difference in income and expenses.

Les

On 02/12/2018 08:18 AM, David Carlson wrote:

UnfOrtumately I cannot read the article that zchristofer cited
from my
clunky Tablet ant tablet really messes up mystery composition
skills.

I think that if you have always correctly calculated every
capital gain in
every closing transaction and never had any ambiguously
matched lots there
will not be any overall difference with or without trading
accounts.

I would guess trading accounts help the most for users with more
complicated trades.

I am sure that you would need to drill down to the capital
gains and
incomes in closing transactions to see where the  T A could make a
difference.

David C



On Feb 12, 2018 6:53 AM, "Christopher Lam"
mailto:christopher@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hi Les

Really interesting question, with a simple and a
complicated answer.

Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you
deal with
multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions
with differing
dates and prices).

Complicated answer:

https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html


https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html


C

On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:

I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the
latest Linux Mint.  I
opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check
and repair, noted the
totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense
before and after.  There
was no difference.  I then ran a Income and Expense
report for year 2016
(which is the same as my production GC and compared
the two.  Again there
was no difference in totals between the two GC files.

So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I
noticed that when
viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view,
there are added lines
showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and
stock symbol, that
does not appear without trading accounts.

Thanks,

Les


On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:

It would be more fun to make a test copy of an
existing file! 😁

David C

On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les"
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>>>
wrote:

     Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your
replies.  I think
     opening a new GC file and testing Trading
Ac

Re: Retracting posted invoice without removing transactions

2018-02-12 Thread Geert Janssens
I believe one way to do this is to create a credit note.

You can do so most easily by selecting the bad invoice and then choose 
Duplicate Invoice. The window that pops up will allow you to select credit note 
to create such a note that will "undo" the invoice.

Regards, 
Geert 

Sascha Silbe  schreef op 12 februari 2018 
21:10:39 CET:
>Hello,
>
>how can I retract (invalidate) an already posted invoice without
>removing the existing transaction or altering the amounts of the
>transaction? (The invoice was created using the Business functions)
>
>A customer requested an invoice to be split so I need to retract the
>original invoice and create two new ones. According to German
>accounting
>rules (*) transactions must not be altered in any way that hides their
>previous content. So I need some way to invalidate the original invoice
>without removing or changing the posted transactions. I need the
>transactions to be voided (with the original amounts still visible) or
>reversed. It needs to be clear that the invoice has been retracted
>(e.g. by adding a suitable description to the transaction).
>
>What I tried so far:
>
>1. Marking the invoice as "not active"
>
>   Had no effect at all on the accounts so it doesn't help.
>
>2. Using "Void Transaction" on the transaction associated with the
>   invoice.
>
>   Makes the original amounts invisible (even though they seem to be
>  retained in the data file) so this isn't compliant with GoBD. Haven't
>   checked how it would affect the Business functions (Customer Report
>   etc.).
>
>3. Using "Add Reversing Transaction" on the transaction associated with
>   the invoice.
>
>   The reversed transaction looks exactly like the invoice transaction
>  (only with reversed amounts) and cannot be edited manually. It's very
>   hard to understand what the transaction is about and it's impossible
>   to add even a reference number to it. Likely to cause at least
>  confusion if it comes up during a tax inspection. Haven't checked how
>   it would affect the Business functions (Customer Report etc.).
>
>
>What I haven't tried:
>
>1. "Paying" the invoice
>
>   Would incorrectly increase the income accounts.
>
>
>Sascha
>
>(*) GoBD: Grundsätze zur ordnungsmäßigen Führung und Aufbewahrung von
>Büchern, Aufzeichnungen und Unterlagen in elektronischer Form sowie
>zum Datenzugriff [1]
>[1]
>https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Downloads/BMF_Schreiben/Weitere_Steuerthemen/Abgabenordnung/Datenzugriff_GDPdU/2014-11-14-GoBD.pdf
>-- 
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>https://se-silbe.de/
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Re: Retracting posted invoice without removing transactions

2018-02-12 Thread Sascha Silbe
Dear Geert,

Geert Janssens  writes:

> I believe the proper way to do this is to create a credit note.
>
> You can do so most easily by selecting the bad invoice and then choose 
> Duplicate Invoice. The window that pops up will allow you to select credit 
> note to create such a note that will "undo" the invoice.

Interesting idea and does indeed do what I need. Thank you very much!

Sascha


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Cannot print reports: 2.6.19

2018-02-12 Thread Rich Shepard

Hi folks,

  I'm running 2.6.19 here on Slackware-14.2 with two separate accounts:
business and personal.

  From the business account I can print trial balance, profit & loss, and
balance sheet for 2017 to a disk file. From the personal account I cannot
print any of them. Is there a configuration option in the personal account
that I've missed?

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: Cannot print reports: 2.6.19

2018-02-12 Thread John Ralls


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
>  I'm running 2.6.19 here on Slackware-14.2 with two separate accounts:
> business and personal.
> 
>  From the business account I can print trial balance, profit & loss, and
> balance sheet for 2017 to a disk file. From the personal account I cannot
> print any of them. Is there a configuration option in the personal account
> that I've missed?

What happens when you try to print from the personal account?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: Cannot print reports: 2.6.19

2018-02-12 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, John Ralls wrote:


What happens when you try to print from the personal account?


John,

  That's what I'm trying to do with these reports. The message box, "Error
printing. Operation not supported." appears when I view a report and select
the Print menu item, then select print to file.

  Haven't tried sending any to a printer because I want to send my
accountant these reports as PDF attachments to an e-mail message.

Regards,

Rich
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Re: Cannot print reports: 2.6.19

2018-02-12 Thread John Ralls


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, John Ralls wrote:
> 
>> What happens when you try to print from the personal account?
> 
> John,
> 
>  That's what I'm trying to do with these reports. The message box, "Error
> printing. Operation not supported." appears when I view a report and select
> the Print menu item, then select print to file.
> 
>  Haven't tried sending any to a printer because I want to send my
> accountant these reports as PDF attachments to an e-mail message.

That's not coming from GnuCash, it's coming from the OS. Since it works for one 
user and not the other I'd suspect a permissions problem.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: Trading Accounts

2018-02-12 Thread David Carlson
Be sure to compare what Gnucash generates to what your broker reports to
the government.  Gnucash has trouble calculating the net gain that the IRS
wants to see.

Many of us still use spreadsheet s to compare to the brokerage reports that
are sent to the IRS.

David C

On Feb 12, 2018 2:27 PM, "Les"  wrote:

> I ran a balance sheet for 2016 and compared the two.  Everything looks the
> same until I reach the equity account.  Here is where the difference occurs
> (and I completely missed it initially).  In the GC file without the use of
> Trading Accounts, I have unrealized gains, whereas in the GC file using
> Trading Accounts, I have trading gains.
> I think I need to start using Trading Accounts, if I want to obtain a more
> accurate set of accounts.
>
> For what it is worth, I have been relying on my brokerage accounts to
> determine gains and losses for tax purposes.
>
> I am thinking about copying my production GC file to my test computer and
> run balance sheet and income and expense for ye 2017 and compare.  I think
> it will be significant.
>
>
> Les
> p.s.: I did read the the link from Christopher.
>
>
> On 02/12/2018 12:05 PM, David Carlson wrote:
>
> If you read Christopher's links, they go into the theory behind the
> development of trading accounts.
>
> I personally do not need them for my use, so I am not conversant with how
> they work.
>
> I think that you may need them, based on the fact that you are looking
> into using them, but I cannot help with details.
>
> Perhaps another user that does use them can chime in (hint Hint)
>
> David C
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Les  wrote:
>
>> I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD.  I buy in tranches
>> for average cost.  So, not sure that means I have complicated trades but I
>> make sure I never have any orphan accounts. I checked my test file for
>> capital and it did not list any. Although, at the bottom of my accounts
>> list, there is a list of currencies and exchanges with totals for each.
>> But, again, there isn't any difference in income and expenses.
>>
>> Les
>>
>> On 02/12/2018 08:18 AM, David Carlson wrote:
>>
>>> UnfOrtumately I cannot read the article that zchristofer cited from my
>>> clunky Tablet ant tablet really messes up mystery composition skills.
>>>
>>> I think that if you have always correctly calculated every capital gain
>>> in
>>> every closing transaction and never had any ambiguously matched lots
>>> there
>>> will not be any overall difference with or without trading accounts.
>>>
>>> I would guess trading accounts help the most for users with more
>>> complicated trades.
>>>
>>> I am sure that you would need to drill down to the capital gains and
>>> incomes in closing transactions to see where the  T A could make a
>>> difference.
>>>
>>> David C
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2018 6:53 AM, "Christopher Lam" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Les

 Really interesting question, with a simple and a complicated answer.

 Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you deal with
 multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions with differing
 dates and prices).

 Complicated answer:

 https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html

 https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html

 C

 On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:

 I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint.  I
> opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair,
> noted the
> totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after.
> There
> was no difference.  I then ran a Income and Expense report for year
> 2016
> (which is the same as my production GC and compared the two.  Again
> there
> was no difference in totals between the two GC files.
>
> So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I noticed that when
> viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view, there are added
> lines
> showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and stock symbol,
> that
> does not appear without trading accounts.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Les
>
>
> On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:
>
> It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁
>>
>> David C
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" > lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies.  I think
>>  opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good
>> idea.
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Les
>>
>>
>>  On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:
>>
>>  And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
>>  add the needed splits to existing transactions.
>>
>>  Gruß,
>>  Christoph
>>
>>  Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David 

Re: Print a list of unpaid bills

2018-02-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
There is a way to see a list of unpaid bills, but there is not a way to print 
that list, sadly.

Go to Business > Vendors > Find Bill.

Change the search criteria to “Is Paid?” and uncheck the box to the right of 
the criteria and click the Find button.

You will get a list of all unpaid bills. You can then click the ‘print report’ 
for any single bill and see a printable version of the bill.

I tried to select all of the bills in the list and do a copy/paste to some 
other software, but the copy function is not activated on that screen, not even 
using a keyboard shortcut.

At best, you could do a screenshot and print that. If you needed actionable 
text for further processing, you’d have to employ some image processing and OCR 
trickery on the screenshot.

You can also run an Payable Aging report. That only displays by Vendor however. 
If you click the total for each vendor (shown as a hyperlink) it will run a 
Vendor report on that vendor for you which lists all activity both bills and 
payments. (as well as credit notes) You could then access each individual bill 
if needed.

I know that isn’t the answer you were looking for, but I’m afraid that’s the 
best Gnucash can do out of the box.

Perhaps someone has managed to obtain such a report using outside tools.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 AM, Tdriessen  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I'd like to print a list of unpaid bills but can't find how to do it.  If I
> display Trial Balance on the screen, then click on Accounts Payable I can
> see transactions on the screen but I can't find any way to print them. 
> There must be a way, but I'm going around in circles.   Help?
> 
> 
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Re: Print a list of unpaid bills

2018-02-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
There is one other option I forgot to mention.

If you get in the habit of ‘reconciling’ your AP account register (clearing 
each bill and each matching payment) you can filter the view of the AP register 
to show only unreconciled entries. (under View > Filter By) While as far as I 
know, this view is not printable, it does give you a list of all unpaid bills 
(assuming you only reconciled those with matching payments) that you can leave 
open in its own tab, or call up at any time without going through the Find Bill 
procedure I outlined previously.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 9:12 PM, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a way to see a list of unpaid bills, but there is not a way to print 
> that list, sadly.
> 
> Go to Business > Vendors > Find Bill.
> 
> Change the search criteria to “Is Paid?” and uncheck the box to the right of 
> the criteria and click the Find button.
> 
> You will get a list of all unpaid bills. You can then click the ‘print 
> report’ for any single bill and see a printable version of the bill.
> 
> I tried to select all of the bills in the list and do a copy/paste to some 
> other software, but the copy function is not activated on that screen, not 
> even using a keyboard shortcut.
> 
> At best, you could do a screenshot and print that. If you needed actionable 
> text for further processing, you’d have to employ some image processing and 
> OCR trickery on the screenshot.
> 
> You can also run an Payable Aging report. That only displays by Vendor 
> however. If you click the total for each vendor (shown as a hyperlink) it 
> will run a Vendor report on that vendor for you which lists all activity both 
> bills and payments. (as well as credit notes) You could then access each 
> individual bill if needed.
> 
> I know that isn’t the answer you were looking for, but I’m afraid that’s the 
> best Gnucash can do out of the box.
> 
> Perhaps someone has managed to obtain such a report using outside tools.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 AM, Tdriessen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I'd like to print a list of unpaid bills but can't find how to do it.  If I
>> display Trial Balance on the screen, then click on Accounts Payable I can
>> see transactions on the screen but I can't find any way to print them. 
>> There must be a way, but I'm going around in circles.   Help?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: inventory management examples or links

2018-02-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Gnucash can easily track inventory valuations. You can set up asset accounts 
for various needed inventory categories as desired and expense accounts for 
Costs of Goods Sold, Damaged/Spoiled inventory, Free Samples, etc.

What it cannot do with ease, is track quantities on hand. That really should be 
handled by separate inventory management software. Even most ‘integrated 
packages’ keep the accounting and inventory management functions separate. 
Technically even in Quickbooks, these are separate modules. One of my clients 
used to use QB for inventory management and it was a pain. The functionality is 
very limited and the reporting quite basic. My first job for them was sourcing 
and installing proper inventory (and Point of Sale) software for their industry.

Most integrated packages are also not very good at the type of proper 
analytical reporting needed for proper inventory management. If your stock 
offerings are that simple, just use a spreadsheet.

If you’re using Woocommerce, there are plenty of inventory management plugins 
available. They should all be able to print/export activity reports which you 
can use to enter valuation transactions such as Cost of Goods Sold and 
Purchases.

(there are also some advanced reporting plugins for Woo that allow you to enter 
costs for products and get a COGS column on your sales reports that you can use 
in whatever your accounting software might be)

If you are really adventurous I’ve seen a few threads on here about abusing the 
stock/fund account types to fit a square peg into the proverbial round hole, 
but after reading them over, the amount of time it would take and still not get 
a proper inventory management system, to me, is just not worth the hassle.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 6:25 AM, Bert Heijne  wrote:
> 
> Hello All.
> 
> This is a nice treat about Inventory but are there some “real examples”  or “ 
> putting it all together”  of gnucash for Inventory or stock of goods 
> management?
> And how this is covered with the invoice.
> I now that gnu cash is not build for that but small stock would be nice
> Woocommerce webshop is in construction so this will be covered mostly by WC.
> 
> Would be nice to see some real samples in gnucash to study.
> Any links or G search links  would be nice
> 
> Gr. Bert
> 
> Verzonden met Windows Mail
> 
> Van: Robert Heller
> Verzonden: ‎zondag‎ ‎11‎ ‎februari‎ ‎2018 ‎17‎:‎15
> Aan: stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com
> CC: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> 
> At Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:55:58 -0500 stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 2/11/2018 9:03 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
>>> At Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:15:56 +0100 Jeff Abrahamson  wrote:
>>> ... transfer
>>> "money" from the vegetable account to a bank account (income when you sell
>>> vegetables) and when you transfer money from a bank account to the vegetable
>>> account (an expense when you buy vegetables). *I* do this which my inventory
>>> of thumb drives. GnuCash does not have "inventory" accounts or any way of
>>> dealing with inventory as such
>> Inventory MANAGEMENT is something else (gnucash lacks this but that
>> belongs in an inventory system*, not "general ledger".
> 
> Yes, I understand.
> 
>> 
>> But you are saying that gnucash does not support inventory value and
>> cost accounting and that is simply not so.
> 
> Only in the sense of not specificly labeling things as "inventory value and
> cost accounting". You are right, one can use gnucash to "manage" inventory
> value and cost accounting. From the point of a newbie, there isn't a specific
> menu of things relating to inventory value and cost accounting, so there is
> the *appearence* of a of lack of support for inventory. My intent was to point
> the OP in "right direction", one that is not obvious. Inventory value and cost
> accounting is handled in GnuCash under "other names" -- it is a matter of
> understanding that inventory is really a kind of asset (that is bought and
> sold) and can (should) be treated as such, at which point all of pieces fall
> into place. The OP wanted to treat his inventory as income or expense and that
> what was confusing (to him).
> 
>> 
>> Let's say incidental to its main activity an organization sells various
>> things (tee shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) as a fund raiser. You create
>> under Assets (after "current assets" and "fixed assets") a parent
>> "Inventory of goods". Under that might be accounts (more likely also
>> parents as batches of goods might have different basis) for "tee
>> shirts", "coffee mugs", etc. When the organization buys a new batch of
>> tee shirts that is a debit to "tee shirts" (or as I mentioned, perhaps
>> "tee shirts batch 4" --- the account description can include what the
>> unit price was for this batch) and a credit to checking << note: we get
>> confused using the supposedly more user friendly terms worrying about
>> 

Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
It would seem to me the ‘cleaner’ option to store the log and lock files in 
some data directory like ".gnucash" "\Application Data\Gnucash" or 
"~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash" (or otherwise as per the OS 
recommendations) than have everything lumped together. Then, the user can store 
their book in whatever place they like and not have other files the app needs 
lying about to clutter their vision or aid to their confusion.

Certainly other needed files like reports, user prefs and the like are handled 
this way. I never did grasp why the log and lock files weren’t.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, David Carlson  
> wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> I agree that the backup scheme should be as idiot proof as possible.
> 
> However, one reason (of several) that I personally am not using a cloud
> service yet is that I do not see how the cloud would handle all all those
> log files coming and going and data files being renamed every few minutes.
> 
> Also, ordinary users get lost if they browse the folder looking for a data
> file.
> 
> Perhaps a simple (?) scheme of putting backup s in a sub folder named
> filename_backup or similar might help with these issues, even if it adds
> overhead to move files around.
> 
> I think the developer s are considering relocating backups in the 3.0
> release do this is a good time to discuss this.
> 
> Sorry my tablet just decided that I nrrdrf a smaller keyboard.
> 
> David
> 
> On Feb 12, 2018 9:49 AM, "Mike or Penny Novack" <
> stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/12/2018 10:08 AM, David Carlson wrote:
>> 
>> Johnathan,
>> 
>> GnuCash may or may not play well with various cloud storage services
>> because of it's insistence (in current releases) on keeping it's automatic
>> backups in the same folder as the data file.
>> 
>> 
>> Just so understood why it makes sense (to me)  to "insist" the automatic
>> backups go into the same directory as the file. It guarantees gnucash being
>> able to make up a UNIQUE name for the backups. If you were allowed to
>> specify a directory B  in which to put the automatic backups for
>> books.gnucash in directory A, what prevents directory B from also
>> containing  a file named books.gnucash ?
>> 
>> Yes of course, care by the user could prevent a disaster like that, but as
>> somebody who used to get paid to unscramble messes caused by that sort of
>> carelessness, absolute prevention is better.
>> 
>> Michael D Novack
>> 
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Jonathan,

Instead of clicking on the file to open it, did you try clicking the Gnucash 
application icon first? Did it successfully open the last file saved?

I think throughout this thread, there’s been lots of guessing as to what might 
be the problem, but if you can give us a click-by-click of what you are trying 
to do, we could all probably provide more accurate advice for your exact issue.

Let’s forget for a moment where your file is supposedly saved.

Please try this on your Mac:

Click the Gnucash application icon. (either located in your Dock, or from the 
Launchpad screen)

What happens?

Now, on your Windows computer:

Click the Gnucash application icon, this may be in your Quicklaunch in the 
Start Bar, or on your desktop, or in your Start > Programs menu. (if on your 
desktop, you *may* need to double-click depending on your preference settings, 
you’ll know because a single click will just highlight the icon, but not start 
the application.)

What happens?

If you aren’t sure what I’m asking or can’t get that far, let’s tackle that 
first.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Ames  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, all, for advice. Just not happening, though. I can see the latest
> file in a directory, but get "file not found" when clicking on it. By now,
> a lot of lost work. Am I correct in assuming that unlike commercial
> software, gnucash doesn't save itself back to the application
> automatically, even if you "save" automatically? In other words, what
> you're paying for is not to deal with the log files, but to save and then
> later click on the icon and have it be where and as you left it?
> 
> Gnucash is more accessible than Quickbooks from within (e.g., all accounts
> have registers), though the "save" complexity, and existence of multiple
> text files, log files, etc., to be managed aren't mentioned in the
> manual/tutorial. I'm accustomed to assuming that it's all user error, e.g.,
> life itself -- correct in this instance? Is there a patch to save and
> access Gnucash like a commercial, e.g. Intuit, program?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan Ames, PhD
> Clinical Psychologist
> 415 N. Tioga Street
> Ithaca NY 14850
> 607-319-5118 - Office
> 607-227-4792 - Cell
> jnthn.a...@gmail.com
> www.whatnowconnect.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Ames  wrote:
> 
>> I am a 71 yo solo psychologist, not particularly patient, unable to
>> install Gnucash: every time I save, another icon appears on desktop;
>> accounts, files I create disappear (“not found”) despite being saved.
>> Wondering if this program requires programming skills to set up: other
>> non-programmers seem it use it. Idea was to link office Windows 10 and home
>> Mac (Sierra) systems through iCloud, replacing Windows-only Quickbooks and
>> Mac Quicken. Is Gnucash basically for the IT-savvy, i.e. getting stable
>> version established on systems so they work like standard software? Also,
>> can Windows and Mac versions maintain same data sets? Will guidebook help,
>> of is it that if you’re having my sort of issues you’re too stupid?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan Ames, Ph.D.
>> 415 N. Tioga Street #205
>> Ithaca NY 14850
>> Office: 607-319-5118 <(607)%20319-5118>
>> Cell: 607-227-4792 <(607)%20227-4792>
>> jnthn.a...@gmail.com
>> www.whatnowconnect.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Cannot print reports: 2.6.19

2018-02-12 Thread Dave H
Rich,

Do you have a printer of any sort installed for the business user and not
the personal user ?

Cheers Dave H

On 13 Feb. 2018 9:14 am, "John Ralls"  wrote:

>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, John Ralls wrote:
> >
> >> What happens when you try to print from the personal account?
> >
> > John,
> >
> >  That's what I'm trying to do with these reports. The message box, "Error
> > printing. Operation not supported." appears when I view a report and
> select
> > the Print menu item, then select print to file.
> >
> >  Haven't tried sending any to a printer because I want to send my
> > accountant these reports as PDF attachments to an e-mail message.
>
> That's not coming from GnuCash, it's coming from the OS. Since it works
> for one user and not the other I'd suspect a permissions problem.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: New Entities

2018-02-12 Thread Liz
On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:06:35 -0600
David Carlson  wrote:

> Matt,
> 
> You bring up a good point.  I have seen a suggestion somewhere to use
> virtual machines to sandbox GnuCash files and keep them isolated from
> each other.
> 
> I think that is Overkill but it works.
> 
> I occasionally open two files simultaneously if I want to copy a
> transaction from one file to another.
> 
> David C

I will have all four books (data files) I have created open at once,
neatly placed on a desktop. I think I'm reading that this isn't
possible in Windows.
I also have 5 Gnucash menu items - the one the distro puts in, and the
four that open my books directly.

I do have the household and my personal finances in a single book.
There are no legal reasons to separate them. The other businesses and
trusts have their own files as they all do separate taxes.

Liz
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Re: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

2018-02-12 Thread Liz
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 05:29:13 +
Matt Graham  wrote:

> Probably stupid question – is there a way to set rules on the
> gnucash-user account?
> 
> Ie anytime someone sends an email that starts with “Re gnucash-user
> Digest”, the system rejects their email with a response along the
> lines of “Please do not reply to the digest without changing the
> subject line. Start a new email with the subject line the same as the
> topic you wish to respond to.”
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Matt

I'm not aware of a place to put such an option.
I wouldn't like to get such an email if I was a new user with a
question related to a topic on the digest, and I'm not in favour of
making such a change.

Liz
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Re: Installation

2018-02-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Adrien, 
Log files have to be visible to the user, so that when they have to recover 
from an error state in their files, they can use them to restore. 
David

 
 
  On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:05, Adrien Monteleone 
wrote:   It would seem to me the ‘cleaner’ option to store the log and lock 
files in some data directory like ".gnucash" "\Application Data\Gnucash" or 
"~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash" (or otherwise as per the OS 
recommendations) than have everything lumped together. Then, the user can store 
their book in whatever place they like and not have other files the app needs 
lying about to clutter their vision or aid to their confusion.

Certainly other needed files like reports, user prefs and the like are handled 
this way. I never did grasp why the log and lock files weren’t.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, David Carlson  
> wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> I agree that the backup scheme should be as idiot proof as possible.
> 
> However, one reason (of several) that I personally am not using a cloud
> service yet is that I do not see how the cloud would handle all all those
> log files coming and going and data files being renamed every few minutes.
> 
> Also, ordinary users get lost if they browse the folder looking for a data
> file.
> 
> Perhaps a simple (?) scheme of putting backup s in a sub folder named
> filename_backup or similar might help with these issues, even if it adds
> overhead to move files around.
> 
> I think the developer s are considering relocating backups in the 3.0
> release do this is a good time to discuss this.
> 
> Sorry my tablet just decided that I nrrdrf a smaller keyboard.
> 
> David
> 
> On Feb 12, 2018 9:49 AM, "Mike or Penny Novack" <
> stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/12/2018 10:08 AM, David Carlson wrote:
>> 
>> Johnathan,
>> 
>> GnuCash may or may not play well with various cloud storage services
>> because of it's insistence (in current releases) on keeping it's automatic
>> backups in the same folder as the data file.
>> 
>> 
>> Just so understood why it makes sense (to me)  to "insist" the automatic
>> backups go into the same directory as the file. It guarantees gnucash being
>> able to make up a UNIQUE name for the backups. If you were allowed to
>> specify a directory B  in which to put the automatic backups for
>> books.gnucash in directory A, what prevents directory B from also
>> containing  a file named books.gnucash ?
>> 
>> Yes of course, care by the user could prevent a disaster like that, but as
>> somebody who used to get paid to unscramble messes caused by that sort of
>> carelessness, absolute prevention is better.
>> 
>> Michael D Novack
>> 
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