Re: Newbie needs help ( bills and payments)

[Geert Janssens]

Op donderdag 21 december 2017 08:46:57 CET schreef Paul Neuwirth:
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:32:13 +0100
> 
> Geert Janssens  wrote:
> > Op dinsdag 19 december 2017 12:18:11 CET schreef Paul Neuwirth:
> > > Hi Geert,
> > > 
> > > hartelijk bedankt. Thank you, that was exactly what I missed.
> > > Would be very nice If open bills would be shown after selecting
> > > vendor..
> > > 
> > > groetjes
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > 
> > Dag Paul,
> > 
> > (I readded your reply to the list as the remainder of this
> > conversation may also be of interest to others. Please use reply-all
> > in the future)
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understand what you mean or would like. Can you
> > explain in some more detail what happened and what you would have
> > liked instead ?
> > 
> > Groeten,
> > 
> > Geert
> 
> Hi,
> (thank you... new to this e-mail client)
> 
> Semms as I cheered too soon.
> https://www.swabian.net/extern/gncml/gnucash7.png
> If I process as payment, (entering the bill no. manually, as on
> documents bill is not selectable - this is what behaviour I miss), the
> bill stays due (see top screen of screenshot)
> https://www.swabian.net/extern/gncml/gnucash8.png
> if I click process payment from bill-side, I see the bill and a new
> transaction, identically to the real one is being created, if I confirm.
> 
> Thank you (all) for help

Ah, your bill is not posted to the same account as the one you are trying to 
post your payment to.

After "Assign as payment", set both vendor and post-to account appropriately 
and your open bill will appear.

Regards,

Geert
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Re: Newbie needs help ( bills and payments)

[Paul Neuwirth]

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 09:50:31 +0100
Geert Janssens  wrote:

> Op donderdag 21 december 2017 08:46:57 CET schreef Paul Neuwirth:
> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:32:13 +0100
> > 
> > Geert Janssens  wrote:  
> > > Op dinsdag 19 december 2017 12:18:11 CET schreef Paul Neuwirth:  
> > > > Hi Geert,
> > > > 
> > > > hartelijk bedankt. Thank you, that was exactly what I missed.
> > > > Would be very nice If open bills would be shown after selecting
> > > > vendor..
> > > > 
> > > > groetjes
> > > > 
> > > > Paul  
> > > 
> > > Dag Paul,
> > > 
> > > (I readded your reply to the list as the remainder of this
> > > conversation may also be of interest to others. Please use
> > > reply-all in the future)
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure I understand what you mean or would like. Can you
> > > explain in some more detail what happened and what you would have
> > > liked instead ?
> > > 
> > > Groeten,
> > > 
> > > Geert  
> > 
> > Hi,
> > (thank you... new to this e-mail client)
> > 
> > Semms as I cheered too soon.
> > https://www.swabian.net/extern/gncml/gnucash7.png
> > If I process as payment, (entering the bill no. manually, as on
> > documents bill is not selectable - this is what behaviour I miss),
> > the bill stays due (see top screen of screenshot)
> > https://www.swabian.net/extern/gncml/gnucash8.png
> > if I click process payment from bill-side, I see the bill and a new
> > transaction, identically to the real one is being created, if I
> > confirm.
> > 
> > Thank you (all) for help  
> 
> Ah, your bill is not posted to the same account as the one you are
> trying to post your payment to.
> 
> After "Assign as payment", set both vendor and post-to account
> appropriately and your open bill will appear.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert

got it :) thank you again... too long account names..
(Passiva:Verbindlichkeiten:1600 Verblk aus Lieferungen und Leistungen.
so I did not notice.
Now it seems to work as espected. Great :)

Regards

Paul
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Re: Newbie needs help ( bills and payments)

[Geert Janssens]

Op donderdag 21 december 2017 10:16:45 CET schreef Paul Neuwirth:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 09:50:31 +0100
> 
> Geert Janssens  wrote:
> > Ah, your bill is not posted to the same account as the one you are
> > trying to post your payment to.
> > 
> > After "Assign as payment", set both vendor and post-to account
> > appropriately and your open bill will appear.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Geert
> 
> got it :) thank you again... too long account names..
> (Passiva:Verbindlichkeiten:1600 Verblk aus Lieferungen und Leistungen.
> so I did not notice.
> Now it seems to work as espected. Great :)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Paul

 Wonderful :)

Geert
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gnucash coredump gnome

[Cliff McDiarmid]

 Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:07 PM
   From: "Cliff McDiarmid" 
   To: "Colin Law" 
   Subject: Re: gnucash coredump gnome
>On 19 December 2017 at 22:19, cliffhan...@gardener.com
wrote:
   > Using Linux with gnome see message for ver. Gnucash was installed
   with dpkg.
   >Oh, you mean Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS. You say you installed using
   >dpkg, do you mean apt-get install? If you used dpkg where did you get
   >?the deb file?
   >To give us more information what do see if you run in a terminal:
   >apt-cache policy gnucash
   >But first run
   >sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
   >which will make sure everything is up to date (dist-upgrade does not
   >try to upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu, it just makes sure
   >everything is up to date for that version). Obviously report if that
   >shows any errors
   >
   >
   >  Original Message 
   > Subject: Re: gnucash coredump gnome
   > From: Colin Law
   > To: Cliff McDiarmid
   > CC: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
   >
   >
   > On 19 December 2017 at 19:20, Cliff McDiarmid wrote:
   >>
   >> Hi
   >>
   >> Just joined. i have been using Quicken for 24years running under
   Wine!
   >> It's now time to change, problems with older versions of it.
   >>
   >> I'm running Gnome 16.04LTS. But I have problems with my first foray
   into
   >> Gnucash. It is coredumping without starting, version 1:2.6.12-1.
   Other
   >> versions also dump. I've run it with Strace and the log is attached.
   AFAIK
   >> all dependencies are satisfied.
   >
   > Which OS are you using and how did you install gnucash?
   >
   > Colin

   Thanks Colin and all, but in the end I managed to compile from source
   and it started first time!  I had wanted to do this originally but had
   problems with guille.

   All I've got to do now is learn the damn thing.

   Cliff
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Re: Church Use of GNUCash

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 12/20/2017 2:40 PM, jcnw wrote:

I am setting up our church books on GNUCash and wonder how to handle
restricted funds.
For example if a member makes a donation to The Organ Fund


I do accounting for non-profits and so can help.

There is more than one way to handle this, and factors which may lead to 
the choice which are things like: (answer these)

1) Will the special fund have its own bank account?
2) Will the special fund drive last for a long or short time? Is this an 
immediate project or likely to go on for months or years before enough 
funds raised?
3) How formal do you want to be? How formal the restriction? << that's 
specified by the donor --- for example, "I'd like this to be for the 
organ but if needed for something else you can" is an INFORMAL restriction.


Michael D Novack

PS: The strictly proper method of having a liability "donor restricted 
funds" can ALWAYS be used.

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Fwd: US tax with foreign stocks advance portfolio

[Ignacio Fernandez Ortega]

Hi Christopher,

I think I have understood how we can deal with Gnucash several currencies.
It is a little bit weird but I get what I want to see on the Advanced
Portfolio.
So the main point here is to *not follow the Purchasing foreign stocks from
the GnuCash guide if you want to track the correct cost basis*. I am not
saying the example is wrong, only that is not valid if you want to track
the cost basis
The example uses the secondary currency to input the stock purchases
instead of the primary currency. And the Advanced Portfolio only use one
exchange ratio for basis and value. The key here is to input all the
purchase in the main currency, so the Advanced Portflio only has to
exchange the value but not the basis.

Attached is my test file.

Gnucash takes the security currency (in my case DXIBX.MC) for the
transaction from the parent account. In my case Investment/Brockerage
Account/Stock. But, and this is important, the currency is set up on the
first transaction. Only on the first transaction.
In my case, Investment/Brockerage Account/Stock is USD because I want the
cost basis in USD. This account is in USD for the first stock purchase, and
that is the way GnuCash understand that this account is in USD. After the
first transaction (450/10/4500), if I change the Investment/Brockerage
Account/Stock to EUR, the first transaction and each following
transaction, *for
the cost basis purposes*, will remain in USD. *Repeat: Only for the cost
basis purposes*. There is some weird interaction when I change the currency
of the opening balance and  Investment/Brockerage Account/Stock to EUR.
Some parts remain in EUR and some in USD.

And what happens with the stock value? First thing is to delete from the
price editor any stock price added by Gnucash for each transaction in USD
if we want to value the stock in EUR. And then provide the
required information for the stock prices in EUR and the EUR/USD exchange.

Sorry if the description is confusing.  I hope we can prepare a guide with
the correct instructions that can help anyone facing these issues.







On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Christopher Lam 
wrote:

> Hi Ignacio
>
> I agree there are limitations with exchange rate valuation.
>
> I note you were using the Advanced Portfolio report. Some issues also
> apply to the other reports with currency conversion
>
> I can see two issues here:
>
> 1. options for exchange rates are:
>
>  a) locked on to report date
>  b) locked on to the most recent rate available
>  c) weighted average (not sure what this means)
>  c) average rate (not sure what this means)
>
> I think there's an old mechanism to calculate according to exact rate
> obtained for the transaction. I recall there was an issue with performance
> in the past. Perhaps we can investigate further, but no promises here.
>
> Moreover, let's say I own 1 share of AAPL. The price is $1000. The
> company decides to a 10:1 stock split. I receive 9 additional shares, and
> the price is now $100. My net worth hasn't changed but the charts cannot
> handle the new price and the new stock quantity smoothly.
>
> 2. your question mentions US tax with foreign stocks.
>
> I assume you are a US resident and hold foreign stocks. Let's assume it's
> GSK in London. There are now two rates applicable - GSK-GBP and GBP-USD. I'm
> not 100% sure about how it calculates GSK -> GBP -> USD. What to do when
> some price data is missing?
>
> I think occasionally the GSK is subsequently valued to 0 USD which is
> unsatisfactory.
>
> Further discussion welcome!
>
> On 21 Dec 2017 10:32 AM, "Ignacio Fernandez Ortega" 
> wrote:
>
>> I am going to respond to myself just to keep this information if someone
>> ask the same question in the future.
>>
>> No, it seems there is no way. Advance portfolio applies always the same
>> exchange rate to basis and value. (I am trying to understand the trading
>> option but I am not sure it is going to help me)
>> The other way to do it is buying the stock (initial and additional
>> purchases) and keeping the price list for this security using the Gnucash
>> main currency. In my case $.
>> That's the only way to keep the cost basis with the original exchange
>> rate,
>> basically deleting the exchange.
>>
>> Pros: the advance portfolio is updated and you only use one currency
>> Cons: forget about the automatic download of quotes. You have to do it
>> manually.
>>
>> If your portfolio only has 2 stocks probably is fine but with 10 stocks
>> and
>> several purchases and dividends every week it is a lot of work.
>>
>> I wish I could understand the program to fix the advance portfolio format
>> but I think in my case it could make sense to have a spreadsheet.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Question about how Gnucash handles the foreign stocks. My Gnucah main
>> currency is dollar but I have some stocks in EUR.
>> Gnucash is updating the basis cost in dollar every time I update the EUR/$
>> exchange rate in the Advance Portfol

Manually matching transactions

[bhoth]

I searched and could not find anything so I am asking. I just moved from
Quicken Home and Business to Gnucash 3 days ago. I think I have everything
fairly well setup but not thrilled with the matching capabilities of the
transaction download.

So I have a question:

Why does the match not first done by amount? As an example, I knew I was
getting a Paypal deposit for $60 so I entered it knowing it would show up
the next day. The next day it does showup and here is the whole line that
was grabbed: Generic debit AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWAL, PAYPAL INST XFER WEB(S );
AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWAL, PAYPAL INS.  The match could not see this and wanted
to add this as a new transaction. If I had the manually match capability, I
could have just matched it and be done.

It seems to me the amount of the transaction should be the very first item
to match on then move on to other items like keywords etc.

But in the end adding a manually match capability would help a lot for those
times when it just can't match it up or iif it matches wrong.

Quicken has this functionality.





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Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[jeffrey black]

I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of books.  
My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family members 
personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears in 
receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in 
GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.

Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD.  I 
need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to full 
size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.

As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch Windoze 
and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so compatibility 
would be an issue.

I would like to hear your recommendations.

---JEffrey Black M.B.A.


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Re: Manually matching transactions

[David Carlson]

You do not mention the mechanism by which your matching transaction
appeared.

Manual matching opportunities usually appear  when using OFX CSV and QIF
import methods.  The details and accuracy vary by method,  but they all
work reasonably well.

If you are using the direct download method, I am not sure how that works,
but I know that it would vary between different financial institutions.

David  C


On Dec 21, 2017 11:57 AM, "bhoth"  wrote:

> I searched and could not find anything so I am asking. I just moved from
> Quicken Home and Business to Gnucash 3 days ago. I think I have everything
> fairly well setup but not thrilled with the matching capabilities of the
> transaction download.
>
> So I have a question:
>
> Why does the match not first done by amount? As an example, I knew I was
> getting a Paypal deposit for $60 so I entered it knowing it would show up
> the next day. The next day it does showup and here is the whole line that
> was grabbed: Generic debit AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWAL, PAYPAL INST XFER WEB(S );
> AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWAL, PAYPAL INS.  The match could not see this and wanted
> to add this as a new transaction. If I had the manually match capability, I
> could have just matched it and be done.
>
> It seems to me the amount of the transaction should be the very first item
> to match on then move on to other items like keywords etc.
>
> But in the end adding a manually match capability would help a lot for
> those
> times when it just can't match it up or iif it matches wrong.
>
> Quicken has this functionality.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[John Ralls]

> On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:42 AM, jeffrey black  
> wrote:
> 
> I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of books.  
> My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family members 
> personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears in 
> receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in 
> GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.
> 
> Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD.  I 
> need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to full 
> size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.
> 
> As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch Windoze 
> and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so compatibility 
> would be an issue.
> 
> I would like to hear your recommendations.


I've been very pleased with my Fujitsu ScanSnap. They publish a linux driver, 
see 
http://www.fujitsu.com/global/support/products/computing/peripheral/scanners/sp/software/ubuntu.html.
I use mine with a Mac so I can't vouch for that part.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: Manually matching transactions

[Brian Hoth]

   I don't even know how to manually match if that is an option. I am
   using OFX download method through AQbanking.

   On 12/21/2017 12:53 PM, David Carlson wrote:

   You do not mention the mechanism by which your matching transaction
   appeared.
   Manual matching opportunities usually appear  when using OFX CSV and
   QIF import methods.  The details and accuracy vary by method,  but they
   all work reasonably well.
   If you are using the direct download method, I am not sure how that
   works, but I know that it would vary between different financial
   institutions.
   David  C

   On Dec 21, 2017 11:57 AM, "bhoth" <[1]bh...@comcast.net> wrote:

 I searched and could not find anything so I am asking. I just moved
 from
 Quicken Home and Business to Gnucash 3 days ago. I think I have
 everything
 fairly well setup but not thrilled with the matching capabilities of
 the
 transaction download.
 So I have a question:
 Why does the match not first done by amount? As an example, I knew I
 was
 getting a Paypal deposit for $60 so I entered it knowing it would
 show up
 the next day. The next day it does showup and here is the whole line
 that
 was grabbed: Generic debit AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWAL, PAYPAL INST XFER
 WEB(S );
 AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWAL, PAYPAL INS.  The match could not see this and
 wanted
 to add this as a new transaction. If I had the manually match
 capability, I
 could have just matched it and be done.
 It seems to me the amount of the transaction should be the very
 first item
 to match on then move on to other items like keywords etc.
 But in the end adding a manually match capability would help a lot
 for those
 times when it just can't match it up or iif it matches wrong.
 Quicken has this functionality.
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[Aaron Laws]

>
> > On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:42 AM, jeffrey black 
> wrote:
> >
> > I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of books.
> > My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family members
> > personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears in
> > receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in
> > GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.
> >
> > Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD.  I
> > need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to full
> > size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.
> >
> > As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch Windoze
> > and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so compatibility
> > would be an issue.
> >
> > I would like to hear your recommendations.


 How does this affect gnucash performance? We've heard several times that
gnucash loads everything into memory at startup and operates from there. I
assume that includes the receipt images? How many pages of images does it
take to get up to, say, 800 MB of receipts?
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Re: Church Use of GNUCash

[Aaron Laws]

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Mike or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com> wrote:

>
> PS: The strictly proper method of having a liability "donor restricted
> funds" can ALWAYS be used.


I have restricted funds in my personal accounts, and I thought the
"correct" way to deal with this was Asset subaccounts. For several reasons,
this was unsatisfactory, and pushed me to the discovery of using a
liability to represent the encumbrances. I always thought it was hacky
because that's not what others said to do, but it solved a number of issues
for me very nicely.

My question: can you say more about using a liability (rather than asset
subaccounts) for restricted funds? Perhaps a link or two, or (ideally) a
reference to some gaap? That would be excellent!

Thanks for your continued enrichment of the public at large through the
gnucash-user mailing list. You are a tremendous resource.
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[George Riner]

Is your question regarding a general purpose scanner?

Or is your point about a application/tool that will process a scanned image of 
a receipt and create a ready-to-import file of accounts, descriptions, memos, 
and amounts - with splits?

: George
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On December 21, 2017 11:56:54 AM PST, John Ralls  wrote:
>
>
>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:42 AM, jeffrey black
> wrote:
>> 
>> I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of books.
> 
>> My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family
>members 
>> personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears in 
>> receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in 
>> GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.
>> 
>> Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD.  I
>
>> need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to
>full 
>> size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.
>> 
>> As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch
>Windoze 
>> and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so compatibility 
>> would be an issue.
>> 
>> I would like to hear your recommendations.
>
>
>I've been very pleased with my Fujitsu ScanSnap. They publish a linux
>driver, see
>http://www.fujitsu.com/global/support/products/computing/peripheral/scanners/sp/software/ubuntu.html.
>I use mine with a Mac so I can't vouch for that part.
>
>Regards,
>John Ralls
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[Adrien Monteleone]

Aaron,

I think it’s just a file URI link. The scans themselves have to be stored on 
their own in the file system. They images/pdf et cetera aren’t stored in the 
db. (the default XML I don’t think could handle that anyway)

There shouldn’t be any memory issues in that respect.

I was using the feature a few years ago, but when I discovered there was no 
indicator of an attachment and no way to correct or change the URI or even 
remove an attachment, I stopped using it. I think these features have been 
added, but I thought they weren’t going to be published till 3.0. If they are 
available now, I’ll certainly start using it again.

I use a Brother ADS-2500W but that’s in the $600 price range. (awesomely fast 
for multi-page scanning - about 50pp/minute or so) I think they have a cheaper 
model out now that might suffice. Their linux and Mac drivers work well and the 
OCR was acceptable.

Regards,
Adrien


> On Dec 21, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Aaron Laws  wrote:
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>>> 
>>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:42 AM, jeffrey black 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of books.
>>> My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family members
>>> personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears in
>>> receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in
>>> GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.
>>> 
>>> Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD.  I
>>> need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to full
>>> size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.
>>> 
>>> As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch Windoze
>>> and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so compatibility
>>> would be an issue.
>>> 
>>> I would like to hear your recommendations.
> 
> 
> How does this affect gnucash performance? We've heard several times that
> gnucash loads everything into memory at startup and operates from there. I
> assume that includes the receipt images? How many pages of images does it
> take to get up to, say, 800 MB of receipts?
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Re: How are PINs stored? (aqbanking)

[bhoth]

Just bringing this back up. is there any change on remembering the online
update pins permanently. I just switched a few days ago from Quicken and
it's annoying to have to enter the password each day or whenever I connect
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[Michael DeBusk]

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 2:42 PM, jeffrey black
 wrote:

> receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in
> GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.

I've had great success with cell-phone-based scanner applications. My
friend, productivity guru Stever Robbins, introduced me to the idea.
Here's his article/podcast on the topic:
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/productivity/organization/how-scanning-apps-can-organize-your-life

Stever's an Apple guy. I'm on Android and Linux. I've tried:

* https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appxy.tinyscanner

* https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplescan.scanner

* https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.docs

I've heard of people making the Google Drive app work, and I recommend
trying it, but I couldn't get a clear scan with it. Both of the first
two work very well.
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[jeffrey black]

On 12/21/2017 3:05 PM, George Riner wrote:
> Is your question regarding a general purpose scanner?
>
> Or is your point about a application/tool that will process a scanned image 
> of a receipt and create a ready-to-import file of accounts, descriptions, 
> memos, and amounts - with splits?
>
> : George
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> On December 21, 2017 11:56:54 AM PST, John Ralls  wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:42 AM, jeffrey black
>>  wrote:
>>> I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of books.
>>> My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family
>> members
>>> personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears in
>>> receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in
>>> GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.
>>>
>>> Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD.  I
>>> need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to
>> full
>>> size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.
>>>
>>> As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch
>> Windoze
>>> and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so compatibility
>>> would be an issue.
>>>
>>> I would like to hear your recommendations.
>>
>> I've been very pleased with my Fujitsu ScanSnap. They publish a linux
>> driver, see
>> http://www.fujitsu.com/global/support/products/computing/peripheral/scanners/sp/software/ubuntu.html.
>> I use mine with a Mac so I can't vouch for that part.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
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The main purpose is to just scan the receipts so I can toss the paper in 
the shredder.

IF there is an application/tool that is capable of creating a 
ready-to-import file that would be a huge bonus.  A large portion of 
these receipts have multiple splits, which I assume would still be done 
manually in GnuCash.  The conversion program(s) would also have reside 
strictly on my computers, no internet processing or fees.

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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[George Riner]

An interface from a product like Neat Receipts into gnucash would be cool!

But you say you have a scanner, but it's not a reasonable option. Why? If you 
just want to scan receipts and store the scans on your computer, sounds like 
you're all set.

As others said, gnucash doesn't store scanned images. Much less store them in 
any way that let's you associate a scanned image with a transaction.

It sounded like you were drowning in getting all the transactions entered into 
gnucash that all those receipts represent. I find that the most tedious part.

If you just want to scan bits of paper and throw the paper away, what does 
gnucash have to do with that?

: George


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On December 21, 2017 3:09:10 PM PST, jeffrey black  
wrote:
>On 12/21/2017 3:05 PM, George Riner wrote:
>> Is your question regarding a general purpose scanner?
>>
>> Or is your point about a application/tool that will process a scanned
>image of a receipt and create a ready-to-import file of accounts,
>descriptions, memos, and amounts - with splits?
>>
>> : George
>> -- -- --
>> Sent by Droid.
>>
>> On December 21, 2017 11:56:54 AM PST, John Ralls 
>wrote:
>>>
 On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:42 AM, jeffrey black
>>>  wrote:
 I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of
>books.
 My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family
>>> members
 personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears
>in
 receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in
 GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.

 Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD. 
>I
 need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to
>>> full
 size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.

 As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch
>>> Windoze
 and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so
>compatibility
 would be an issue.

 I would like to hear your recommendations.
>>>
>>> I've been very pleased with my Fujitsu ScanSnap. They publish a
>linux
>>> driver, see
>>>
>http://www.fujitsu.com/global/support/products/computing/peripheral/scanners/sp/software/ubuntu.html.
>>> I use mine with a Mac so I can't vouch for that part.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>>
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>The main purpose is to just scan the receipts so I can toss the paper
>in 
>the shredder.
>
>IF there is an application/tool that is capable of creating a 
>ready-to-import file that would be a huge bonus.  A large portion of 
>these receipts have multiple splits, which I assume would still be done
>
>manually in GnuCash.  The conversion program(s) would also have reside 
>strictly on my computers, no internet processing or fees.
>
>--JEffrey Black M.B.A.
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Help finding Account Register

[Dave Orsinger]

I inadvertently "x 'd" out of my Account (checking) Register and can't 
figure out a way to get it back. I've gone through a lot of the 
documentation but haven't found anything that addresses my issue. Can 
somebody out there give me some love and "support"?

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Re: Help finding Account Register

[Dave H]

Have you tried View >> New Accounts Page?

Cheers Dave H

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Re: Help finding Account Register

[Dave Orsinger]

Thanks but that only gave me an Account Summary, not the Register 
(checking) account where I can post transactions.



On 12/21/2017 5:36 PM, Dave H wrote:

Have you tried View >> New Accounts Page?

Cheers Dave H

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 at 11:30 am, Dave Orsinger > wrote:


I inadvertently "x 'd" out of my Account (checking) Register and can't
figure out a way to get it back. I've gone through a lot of the
documentation but haven't found anything that addresses my issue. Can
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Re: Help finding Account Register

[Dave H]

Click on the sideways triangle to expand the assets view, you might have to
do this a couple of times depending on your setup and then double click on
your Checking Account to open the register .

Dave H.

On 22 December 2017 at 11:48, Dave Orsinger  wrote:

> Thanks but that only gave me an Account Summary, not the Register
> (checking) account where I can post transactions.
>
>
> On 12/21/2017 5:36 PM, Dave H wrote:
>
> Have you tried View >> New Accounts Page?
>
> Cheers Dave H
>
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 at 11:30 am, Dave Orsinger 
> wrote:
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>> I inadvertently "x 'd" out of my Account (checking) Register and can't
>> figure out a way to get it back. I've gone through a lot of the
>> documentation but haven't found anything that addresses my issue. Can
>> somebody out there give me some love and "support"?
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Re: Help finding Account Register

[david amaral via gnucash-user]

In your home directory should be a gnucash directory with backups. you can open 
on older file. also select "file" as you would close gnucash and see if there 
is a backup there.

  From: Dave Orsinger 
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 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:30 PM
 Subject: Help finding Account Register
   
I inadvertently "x 'd" out of my Account (checking) Register and can't 
figure out a way to get it back. I've gone through a lot of the 
documentation but haven't found anything that addresses my issue. Can 
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gnucash reports changed to a mini fonts size

[uhopfer@gmail]

add to my previous message /Mon Dec 18 22:55:38 EST 2017/

/problem solved in 2.6.19-3
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Re: gnucash reports changed to a mini fonts size

[Dave Orsinger]

To what does "2.6.19-3" refer? I didn't get a "previous message" from you.

On 12/21/2017 6:40 PM, uhopfer@gmail wrote:

add to my previous message /Mon Dec 18 22:55:38 EST 2017/

/problem solved in 2.6.19-3
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Re: Help finding Account Register

[D via gnucash-user]

Out seems to me that section 2.3 of the Tutorial & Concept Guide (The Basics: 
Interface) might help you out.

David

On December 22, 2017, at 6:49 AM, Dave Orsinger  wrote:

Thanks but that only gave me an Account Summary, not the Register 
(checking) account where I can post transactions.


On 12/21/2017 5:36 PM, Dave H wrote:
> Have you tried View >> New Accounts Page?
>
> Cheers Dave H
>
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 at 11:30 am, Dave Orsinger  > wrote:
>
> I inadvertently "x 'd" out of my Account (checking) Register and can't
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> documentation but haven't found anything that addresses my issue. Can
> somebody out there give me some love and "support"?
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[GWB]

I can say that VueScan softer does work with the older Fujitsu
ScanSnap (s500, I think) on Ubuntu 14.  But VueScan is not free, and I
have not tried Fujitsu's linux version for the ScanSnap.  I don't use
OCR when I scan, but instead batch scan, and then later run the files
(usually .tiff) through an OCR program if necessary.  In my
experience, the OCR takes too much time, and I have too many pages
(various sizes, receipts, etc.).  I will take take a blank sheet and
write the date or topic (usually "201701JAN", etc.; MMAAA) and
scan that sheet at beginning and end of the batch.

That also takes more space, because I'm scanning one sheet to one
file.  If you do scan to .pdf, you can place multiple images of sheets
in one file, which might work best for you.

I have used Neat Receipts, and it's not bad, but too proprietary for
cross platform work; they did not support Linux at the time.  The cell
phone based scanner apps look interesting, and I would love to try
that as well.

Gordon

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 5:53 PM, George Riner  wrote:
> An interface from a product like Neat Receipts into gnucash would be cool!
>
> But you say you have a scanner, but it's not a reasonable option. Why? If you 
> just want to scan receipts and store the scans on your computer, sounds like 
> you're all set.
>
> As others said, gnucash doesn't store scanned images. Much less store them in 
> any way that let's you associate a scanned image with a transaction.
>
> It sounded like you were drowning in getting all the transactions entered 
> into gnucash that all those receipts represent. I find that the most tedious 
> part.
>
> If you just want to scan bits of paper and throw the paper away, what does 
> gnucash have to do with that?
>
> : George
>
>
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> On December 21, 2017 3:09:10 PM PST, jeffrey black 
>  wrote:
>>On 12/21/2017 3:05 PM, George Riner wrote:
>>> Is your question regarding a general purpose scanner?
>>>
>>> Or is your point about a application/tool that will process a scanned
>>image of a receipt and create a ready-to-import file of accounts,
>>descriptions, memos, and amounts - with splits?
>>>
>>> : George
>>> -- -- --
>>> Sent by Droid.
>>>
>>> On December 21, 2017 11:56:54 AM PST, John Ralls 
>>wrote:

> On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:42 AM, jeffrey black
  wrote:
> I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of
>>books.
> My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family
 members
> personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears
>>in
> receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in
> GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.
>
> Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD.
>>I
> need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to
 full
> size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.
>
> As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch
 Windoze
> and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so
>>compatibility
> would be an issue.
>
> I would like to hear your recommendations.

 I've been very pleased with my Fujitsu ScanSnap. They publish a
>>linux
 driver, see

>>http://www.fujitsu.com/global/support/products/computing/peripheral/scanners/sp/software/ubuntu.html.
 I use mine with a Mac so I can't vouch for that part.

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>>The main purpose is to just scan the receipts so I can toss the paper
>>in
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>>
>>IF there is an application/tool that is capable of creating a
>>ready-to-import file that would be a huge bonus.  A large portion of
>>these receipts have multiple splits, which I assume would still be done
>>
>>manually in GnuCash.  The conversion program(s) would also have reside
>>strictly on my computers, no internet processing or fees.
>>
>>--JEffrey Black M.B.A.
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[DaveC49]

I use the flatbed scanner on a Samsung SCX3405FW combined with the XSANE
Image Scanning Program to scan receipts with output as jpg without any major
difficulties on Linux. As others have noted at present there is no way to
link these into Gnucash at the moment. Main reason is to store receipts from
heat printers which fade before thay fade. Ad mittedly never large numbers
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[Ronal B Morse]

I use an app named "Scanner Pro" on my iPhone to capture 
documents/receipts while out of the office.  Images automatically upload 
to my iCloud storage or I can mail them to myself.  Access to files on 
iCloud from the Linux box in the office is done via the iCloud web 
portal.  Works fine, but Scanner Pro is slow and tedious to use if you 
have a lot of documents to process.


I have an $80 Canon LIDE 220 flatbed scanner attached to the desktop.  
It's fast and effective and is truly "plug n' play" with Ubuntu 17.10.  
Doesn't have a document feeder, though.  I normally use VueScan 
(recommended) as the scanning front end software, but the Canon also 
works great with the "Simple Scan"  and "Xsane" packages which are 
available at no charge from the Ubuntu repository.


Any images that need to be retained are stored in a "tax items" folder 
on iCloud so I don't have to dedicate local storage space to retain 
them. I can get to them from any devices that has Internet access.  
Reduces the space needed for local backup, too, but really depends upon 
a reliable high-speed net connection to work like it should.


RBM


On 12/21/2017 09:48 PM, GWB wrote:

I can say that VueScan softer does work with the older Fujitsu
ScanSnap (s500, I think) on Ubuntu 14.  But VueScan is not free, and I
have not tried Fujitsu's linux version for the ScanSnap.  I don't use
OCR when I scan, but instead batch scan, and then later run the files
(usually .tiff) through an OCR program if necessary.  In my
experience, the OCR takes too much time, and I have too many pages
(various sizes, receipts, etc.).  I will take take a blank sheet and
write the date or topic (usually "201701JAN", etc.; MMAAA) and
scan that sheet at beginning and end of the batch.

That also takes more space, because I'm scanning one sheet to one
file.  If you do scan to .pdf, you can place multiple images of sheets
in one file, which might work best for you.

I have used Neat Receipts, and it's not bad, but too proprietary for
cross platform work; they did not support Linux at the time.  The cell
phone based scanner apps look interesting, and I would love to try
that as well.

Gordon

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 5:53 PM, George Riner  wrote:

An interface from a product like Neat Receipts into gnucash would be cool!

But you say you have a scanner, but it's not a reasonable option. Why? If you 
just want to scan receipts and store the scans on your computer, sounds like 
you're all set.

As others said, gnucash doesn't store scanned images. Much less store them in 
any way that let's you associate a scanned image with a transaction.

It sounded like you were drowning in getting all the transactions entered into 
gnucash that all those receipts represent. I find that the most tedious part.

If you just want to scan bits of paper and throw the paper away, what does 
gnucash have to do with that?

: George


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On December 21, 2017 3:09:10 PM PST, jeffrey black  
wrote:

On 12/21/2017 3:05 PM, George Riner wrote:

Is your question regarding a general purpose scanner?

Or is your point about a application/tool that will process a scanned

image of a receipt and create a ready-to-import file of accounts,
descriptions, memos, and amounts - with splits?

: George
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On December 21, 2017 11:56:54 AM PST, John Ralls 

wrote:

On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:42 AM, jeffrey black

 wrote:

I am using GnuCash (Windoze version) to track multiple sets of

books.

My personal, my farm, my wife's business, and for another family

members

personal and business.  Needless to say I am buried up to my ears

in

receipts and would like to go paperless by storing the images in
GnuCash.  My flatbed scanner works but; is not a reasonable option.

Right now, my budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD.

I

need to scan everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to

full

size 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.

As soon as I can replace several legacy apps I intend to ditch

Windoze

and move everything over to Unix (probably Ubuntu), so

compatibility

would be an issue.

I would like to hear your recommendations.

I've been very pleased with my Fujitsu ScanSnap. They publish a

linux

driver, see


http://www.fujitsu.com/global/support/products/computing/peripheral/scanners/sp/software/ubuntu.html.

I use mine with a Mac so I can't vouch for that part.

Regards,
John Ralls

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The main purpose is to just scan the receipts so I can toss the paper
in
the shredder.

IF there is an application/tool that is capable of creating a
ready-to-import file that would be a huge bonus.  A large portion of
these receipts have multiple splits, which I assume would still be done

manually in GnuCash.  The conversion program(s) would also have reside
strictly on my computers, no internet processing or fees.

--JEffrey Black M.B.A.



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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[G. Paul Ziemba]

beastmaster...@hotmail.com (jeffrey black) writes:

> I am buried up to my ears in receipts and would like to go paperless

> budget would have to be a maximum of about $400 USD. I need to scan
> everything from 2 inch wide thermal receipts up to to full size
> 8 1/2 X 11  inch receipts.

I use a Fujitsu scansnap. It retails for about US $400. Double-sided, ADF.

Receipts are often printed on tissue-thin paper and I have to use care
to feed them into the scanner. The scanner can handle very long receipts
but the operator has to hold the button for a long time (15 sec?) to
tell the scanner not to abort after 20 inches or so.

I wish I had a fully unix/linux workflow, but alas, have not been able to
assemble a reliable auto-crop, auto-rotate, OCR pipeline that functions
as well as the Windows drivers/applications that ship with the scanner.

My current setup has W2K (!) running in a VirtualBox VM with the scanner
USB forwarded from the unix host into the W2k VM. I installed the
Fujitsu-provided driver and OCR to the VM client. The VM is configured
to make a host directory visible to the VM client as a windows "share".

In the VM, scansnap and the bundled OCR software is configured to save
output to the shared folder, i.e., files end up on the unix host. The
bundled OCR software outputs PDF.

The windows driver maintains a continual conversation with the scanner
even when it is not scanning. Excessive latency over USB seems to interrupt
this conversation, resulting in the driver declaring the scanner "gone"
forevermore until VM client reboot. Setting the VM to "realtime" priority
on the host (FreeBSD) seems to have ameliorated the problem.

As for integration with gnucash, I have a clunky homegrown PDF browser tool
that more or less runs pdfgrep on the OCR'ed files to guess at transaction
fields and then presents them to me for editing alongside a rendering of the
image.

I edit the description, category, etc. and indicate "done", and the
tool will generate a QIF transaction record and move the PDF file to a
directory/filename based on the transaction info. After I have done a
bunch of receipts this way, I then import the QIF file into gnucash.

It is somewhat cumbersome, but being able to process the text from OCR
of the receipts enables some automation of the translation into canonical
transactions. Some cleverness is required to match up credit card numbers
on receipts (which might have only the last 4 digits) or to parse the
transaction amount, and so far it needs a lot of manual oversight.

Wouldn't it be nice if there were a standard barcode on receipts that
encoded the relevant information? Unfortunately, we are probably too
far along into digital/online transactions for any innovation in printed
receipts.
-- 
G. Paul Ziemba
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Re: Receipt scanners, recommendations?

[Adrien Monteleone]

> On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:24 PM, DaveC49  wrote:

> As others have noted at present there is no way to
> link these into Gnucash at the moment.

I see the Associate File with Transaction option is still in the context menu.

As noted however, the feature is very limited though I believe the code for an 
attachment indicator at least has already been merged into the next major 
branch. Without the ability to delete or change an association does make the 
feature more difficult to use.

Regards,
Adrien

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Re: Gnucash on Linux Mint

[DaveC49]

Hi Les,

The Linux Mint Software manager version is usually 1-2 releases behind the
latest release of Gnucash.  getDeb is sometimes a bit more up to date.
Unless there are specific features/fixes in the latest release that you need
then 2.6.17 which is the current LM version should be OK. 

If not, it is not too hard to build on Linux Mint using the instructions at
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building#Ubuntu_16.04_LTS_.28Xenial_Xerus.29.
If you aren't familiar with cmake use the Autotools build.

I usually run ..gnucash/configure setting the --prefix  option to
/usr/local/bin rather than /opt/gnucash  or /opt/gnucash-devel until it
reports no errors, installing any packages it reports it needs as errors
that are not already installed. There is a list of dependencies in the
README.dependencies files and most can be installed directly with apt before
running the ..gnucash/configure.



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Reports Not Responding Windows 10

[TiBo TJ]

Hi GNUs

 

I recently installed GnuCash 2.6.19 on Windows 10 and am very happy with it
so far.

 

However, I cannot get any Report to work. GnuCash hangs (Not Responding)
when I try to do any standard report.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks in advance

Tobias de Vlamingh

 

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