Re: bad and corrupt data

2017-09-02 Thread Geert Janssens
On vrijdag 1 september 2017 13:47:40 CEST Sandro Grech wrote:
> Hi Colin,
> I tried both for no avail.
> 
> currently with the version 2.6.14, it is working.
> 
> install 2.6.17 and could not save again.
> 
> rolled to .14 and works again --- hence my suspicion of a bug .. . but am
> not knowledgeable enough to say so
> 
This definitely looks like a regression. Can you file a bug for this please ?
If you do, please add a trace file [1] from a failed attempt. The best way to 
do so is this:
- first remove all existing trace files (or move them aside)
- start gnucash (2.6.17)
- try to save to mysql, which will fail
- quit gnucash
- obtain the single trace file now found in the temporary directory
- create a bug [2] and attach the trace file

Thanks,
Geert

[1] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile
[2] Refer to http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bugzilla to learn how to use 
bugzilla
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Re: Help needed: 2.6.17 not building on 32-bit systems

2017-09-02 Thread tjoen
On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 10:56 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
>There's another issue I need to resolve: apparently webkitgtk
> developers
> switched to using cmake from the former compile; make; make install
> sequence. The SBo script does not do cmake; I've written to the list
> and
> webkitgtk package maintainer asking for help in getting it built.

This i how I did it:
mkdir build
cd build/
cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release  \
  -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr \
  -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH=ON   \
  -DPORT=GTK  \
  -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/lib64  \
  -DUSE_SYSTEM_MALLOC=ON \
  -Wno-dev ..
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Re: New user

2017-09-02 Thread Geert Janssens
On zaterdag 2 september 2017 06:23:52 CEST David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> John,  Peter, 
> Whatever the reason for Morris to want this (I, for example occasionally
> want to see all the payments to/from one payee), the fact remains that
> GnuCash already offers this functionality, although it is buried in
> View->Sort by (our whatever that menu option is). So, Morris is mostly
> asking for an interface improvement to make using this feature more
> accessible. Frankly, I think it might make sense. David
> 
True. However it will be difficult to achieve with the current register code. 
The unfinished attempt to rewrite this code to use standard gtk widgets did 
provide this. Unfortunately that never got far enough to be added to the 
stable gnucash releases. I haven't completely given up that alternative path 
just yet, so it may still appear in a future release. That's the best I can 
predict at this point :(

Geert 
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Re: Unsaved Book

2017-09-02 Thread Geert Janssens
On zaterdag 2 september 2017 08:19:55 CEST isuy wrote:
> Hi, there was a power outage while I was working on GnuCash. Since then,
> whenever I start the program, instead of a window showing the opened
> gnucash file, it shows two buttons, "Save" and "Close"  with "Unsaved
> Book" on the title bar. I can still open the gnucash file from that
> window, but this is not normal. Another problem is that I can't change
> anything on preferences window. All check boxes and radio buttons are
> fixed.
> 
> My OS is FreeBSD(ver 11.1) and I uninstall and removed ~/.gnucash and
> then reinstalled it, but the problem is still there.
> 

These preferences are stored in OS X' native defaults system. It appears the 
power outage has corrupted these in some way. These preferences are stored in 
/Users//Library/Preferences/gnucash.plist
You can try to restore a backup of this file from before the power outage or 
reset your settings by removing that file.

Note the Library folder is hidden from the finder so to access it you'll have 
to use Go->Go to folder... (this is from OS  X 10.7, the name and menu 
location may have changed meanwhile).

Regards,

Geert
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Re : Could not obtain the lock

2017-09-02 Thread Alain Dormoy



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De : "Colin Law" 
Date : vendredi 1 septembre 2017 13:12
À : "Alain Dormoy" 
Cc : 
Objet : Re: Could not obtain the lock


On 1 September 2017 at 11:51, Alain Dormoy  wrote:

Hi!

More often than not, when I launch GnuCash, I get the message:

Gnucash could not obtain the lock for file:\...\filename.gnucash

I click "Open anyway" and it works normally. So I can't say I really care
but it's a bit puzzling.

Anyone has an explanation and can I do something to change that?


That normally happens when GC has not been closed down correctly. How
are you closing it?
Also which operating system are you using and which version GC?

Colin




I'm using Windows 7.
I normally close GC before turning my computer off. But I hardly turn it off 
more than once a week and the "incident" I'm refering to happens most every 
day.


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Re: Re : Could not obtain the lock

2017-09-02 Thread David Carlson
It sounds like you are starting GnuCash more times than you are shutting it
down.  GnuCash can open more than one instance at a time, which would cause
the same message.

Take care to return to the open instance rather than starting a new
instance when you return, because it is possible to lose data from the
first instance when the second instance is shut down.

David C

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Alain Dormoy  wrote:

>
>
> --
> De : "Colin Law" 
> Date : vendredi 1 septembre 2017 13:12
> À : "Alain Dormoy" 
> Cc : 
> Objet : Re: Could not obtain the lock
>
> On 1 September 2017 at 11:51, Alain Dormoy  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> More often than not, when I launch GnuCash, I get the message:
>>>
>>> Gnucash could not obtain the lock for file:\...\filename.gnucash
>>>
>>> I click "Open anyway" and it works normally. So I can't say I really care
>>> but it's a bit puzzling.
>>>
>>> Anyone has an explanation and can I do something to change that?
>>>
>>
>> That normally happens when GC has not been closed down correctly. How
>> are you closing it?
>> Also which operating system are you using and which version GC?
>>
>> Colin
>>
>
>
>
> I'm using Windows 7.
> I normally close GC before turning my computer off. But I hardly turn it
> off more than once a week and the "incident" I'm refering to happens most
> every day.
>
> Alain
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Re : Re : Could not obtain the lock

2017-09-02 Thread Alain Dormoy

Thank you David.
I don't think I'm starting GC more times than I'm shutting it down. If it's 
running I access it through the icon at the base of my desk, it's only if the 
icon is missing that I "start" GC. 
If I don't intend to use it for a long while I save whatever still needs to be 
saved and I click on the cross in the upper right corner of my screen (am I 
missing something?) 
Alain


De : David Carlson 
Date : samedi 2 septembre 2017 12:37
À : Alain Dormoy 
Cc : Colin Law ; Robert Heller ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Objet : Re: Re : Could not obtain the lock


It sounds like you are starting GnuCash more times than you are shutting it 
down.  GnuCash can open more than one instance at a time, which would cause the 
same message.


Take care to return to the open instance rather than starting a new instance 
when you return, because it is possible to lose data from the first instance 
when the second instance is shut down.


David C



On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Alain Dormoy  wrote:



  --
  De : "Colin Law" 
  Date : vendredi 1 septembre 2017 13:12
  À : "Alain Dormoy" 
  Cc : 
  Objet : Re: Could not obtain the lock


On 1 September 2017 at 11:51, Alain Dormoy  wrote:

  Hi!

  More often than not, when I launch GnuCash, I get the message:

  Gnucash could not obtain the lock for file:\...\filename.gnucash

  I click "Open anyway" and it works normally. So I can't say I really care
  but it's a bit puzzling.

  Anyone has an explanation and can I do something to change that?


That normally happens when GC has not been closed down correctly. How
are you closing it?
Also which operating system are you using and which version GC?

Colin




  I'm using Windows 7.
  I normally close GC before turning my computer off. But I hardly turn it off 
more than once a week and the "incident" I'm refering to happens most every day.

  Alain 

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Re: Help needed: 2.6.17 not building on 32-bit systems

2017-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sat, 2 Sep 2017, tjoen wrote:


This i how I did it:
mkdir build
cd build/
cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release  \
 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr \
 -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH=ON   \
 -DPORT=GTK  \
 -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/lib64  \
 -DUSE_SYSTEM_MALLOC=ON \
 -Wno-dev ..


  Thank you. I saw only the DPORT=GTK when searching for building help.

Rich
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Re: Budget Slowing Down Windows 10

2017-09-02 Thread Phil Longstaff
Don't forget to reply to the whole list.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Mark Hedges 
wrote:

> ​FWIW I noticed several problems with open source programs in Windows 10.
> Could it be a graphics library implementation issue?  I wonder if you would
> get the same problem using Developer Mode and the Ubuntu Subsystem for
> Windows with VcXsrv on the same file and filesystem.  If it works correctly
> in the Ubuntu Subsystem, I'm not sure what that would mean, but it might
> help you track down the problem.  Thank you SO MUCH for your extremely
> beneficial work.  I donated.  :-)
>
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> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Phil Longstaff 
> wrote:
>
>> I am aware of the very slow performance with budget. I have some ideas to
>> improve it but have not found time to put into it. It seems to only affect
>> Windows. It runs fine on linux.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Proberts042 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Slow to me is several minutes.
>> >
>> > I have installed GnuCash on a Linux operating system (Ubuntu) and it
>> seemed
>> > to work well. However, did not try the Budget feature there. I would
>> like
>> > to
>> > use an open source operating system but sharing word processor files
>> with
>> > my
>> > teachers and students proves difficult because Google Drive and
>> LibreOffice
>> > render Word tables remarkably differently than Microsoft, and even make
>> > changes so that the documents are really different when run in Windows
>> > again. I know of no way to get around this. I hope that these problems
>> are
>> > solved in the near future as I would love to use Linux machines
>> > exclusively.
>> > We want to move more toward open-source software systems. GnuCash, even
>> > with
>> > its limitations running in a Windows environment, is great (except for
>> > Budget). We have also started using OpenSiS-CE for our school
>> information
>> > management system.
>> >
>> > So I guess I will wait for the software experts to see what they can do
>> > about this Budget thing. I would really like to use this feature for
>> > planning.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > View this message in context: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.
>> > nabble.com/Budget-Slowing-Down-Windows-10-tp4693398p4693425.html
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Re: Unsaved Book

2017-09-02 Thread John Ralls

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 1:56 AM, Geert Janssens  wrote:
> 
> On zaterdag 2 september 2017 08:19:55 CEST isuy wrote:
>> Hi, there was a power outage while I was working on GnuCash. Since then,
>> whenever I start the program, instead of a window showing the opened
>> gnucash file, it shows two buttons, "Save" and "Close"  with "Unsaved
>> Book" on the title bar. I can still open the gnucash file from that
>> window, but this is not normal. Another problem is that I can't change
>> anything on preferences window. All check boxes and radio buttons are
>> fixed.
>> 
>> My OS is FreeBSD(ver 11.1) and I uninstall and removed ~/.gnucash and
>> then reinstalled it, but the problem is still there.
>> 
> 
> These preferences are stored in OS X' native defaults system. It appears the 
> power outage has corrupted these in some way. These preferences are stored in 
> /Users//Library/Preferences/gnucash.plist
> You can try to restore a backup of this file from before the power outage or 
> reset your settings by removing that file.
> 
> Note the Library folder is hidden from the finder so to access it you'll have 
> to use Go->Go to folder... (this is from OS  X 10.7, the name and menu 
> location may have changed meanwhile).

Umm, FreeBSD != MacOS, though part of MacOS is based on FreeBSD.

For FreeBSD I'd expect that the preferences are stored and managed with GBus as 
they are on Linux.

Regards,
John RAlls

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Re: Help needed: 2.6.17 not building on 32-bit systems

2017-09-02 Thread John Ralls

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 5:38 AM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2017, tjoen wrote:
> 
>> This i how I did it:
>> mkdir build
>> cd build/
>> cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release  \
>> -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr \
>> -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH=ON   \
>> -DPORT=GTK  \
>> -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/lib64  \
>> -DUSE_SYSTEM_MALLOC=ON \
>> -Wno-dev ..
> 
>  Thank you. I saw only the DPORT=GTK when searching for building help.

You're building too new a webkit. GnuCash 2.6.x requires the Webkit1 API which 
was removed after WebKitGtk-2.4.x. WebKitGtk-2.4.x uses autotools.

GnuCash master uses the WebKit2 API and works with WebKitGtk-2.6.x.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: Unsaved Book

2017-09-02 Thread Geert Janssens
On zaterdag 2 september 2017 15:57:01 CEST John Ralls wrote:
> > On Sep 2, 2017, at 1:56 AM, Geert Janssens 
> > wrote:> 
> > On zaterdag 2 september 2017 08:19:55 CEST isuy wrote:
> >> Hi, there was a power outage while I was working on GnuCash. Since then,
> >> whenever I start the program, instead of a window showing the opened
> >> gnucash file, it shows two buttons, "Save" and "Close"  with "Unsaved
> >> Book" on the title bar. I can still open the gnucash file from that
> >> window, but this is not normal. Another problem is that I can't change
> >> anything on preferences window. All check boxes and radio buttons are
> >> fixed.
> >> 
> >> My OS is FreeBSD(ver 11.1) and I uninstall and removed ~/.gnucash and
> >> then reinstalled it, but the problem is still there.
> > 
> > These preferences are stored in OS X' native defaults system. It appears
> > the power outage has corrupted these in some way. These preferences are
> > stored in /Users//Library/Preferences/gnucash.plist
> > You can try to restore a backup of this file from before the power outage
> > or reset your settings by removing that file.
> > 
> > Note the Library folder is hidden from the finder so to access it you'll
> > have to use Go->Go to folder... (this is from OS  X 10.7, the name and
> > menu location may have changed meanwhile).
> 
> Umm, FreeBSD != MacOS, though part of MacOS is based on FreeBSD.
> 
> For FreeBSD I'd expect that the preferences are stored and managed with GBus
> as they are on Linux.
> 
> Regards,
> John RAlls

Oops, I completely misread that. I had read "OS X based on FreeBSD xyz). Sorry 
for the noise...

Geert

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GnuCash documentation (gnucash-docs-2.4.3-1.el6.noarch)...

2017-09-02 Thread Robert Heller
For some reason, yelp (yelp-2.28.1-17.el6_3.x86_64) crashes when reading the 
GnuCash help files (using the Help menu item).  Is there some other tool that 
can be used to read them?  Or some way to convert them to some other format?

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Re: GnuCash documentation (gnucash-docs-2.4.3-1.el6.noarch)...

2017-09-02 Thread John Ralls

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 7:25 AM, Robert Heller  > wrote:
> 
> For some reason, yelp (yelp-2.28.1-17.el6_3.x86_64) crashes when reading the 
> GnuCash help files (using the Help menu item).  Is there some other tool that 
> can be used to read them?  Or some way to convert them to some other format?

Have you tested with a version of the GnuCash documents that's a little more 
recent than 2013?

That aside, they're available as online HTML and for download as PDF, ebook, 
and mobi from www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml . 
If that's not sufficient you can point calibre at the docbook XML that you have 
installed and convert it to a variety of other formats.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: Help needed: 2.6.17 not building on 32-bit systems

2017-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sat, 2 Sep 2017, John Ralls wrote:


You're building too new a webkit. GnuCash 2.6.x requires the Webkit1 API
which was removed after WebKitGtk-2.4.x. WebKitGtk-2.4.x uses autotools.



GnuCash master uses the WebKit2 API and works with WebKitGtk-2.6.x.


John,

  Thank you for clarifying. I've removed the newer webkitgtk and am in the
process of re-building webkitgtk-2.4.11. I've also downgraded libwebp from
0.6.0 to 0.5.2. I'll then rebuild/re-install gnucash-2.6.13 (available on
the SlackBuilds.org site).

  I believe resolving version incompatibilities will fix the problem.
Perhaps that upgraded libicul18n libraries broke gnucash led me down this
long path. That'll be the next tests if needed.

Much appreciated,

Rich

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Re: GnuCash documentation (gnucash-docs-2.4.3-1.el6.noarch)...

2017-09-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 2 Sep 2017 07:35:22 -0700 John Ralls  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> > On Sep 2, 2017, at 7:25 AM, Robert Heller  > > wrote:
> > 
> > For some reason, yelp (yelp-2.28.1-17.el6_3.x86_64) crashes when reading 
> > the 
> > GnuCash help files (using the Help menu item).  Is there some other tool 
> > that 
> > can be used to read them?  Or some way to convert them to some other format?
> 
> Have you tested with a version of the GnuCash documents that's a little more
> recent than 2013?

I don't believe a newer version of GnuCash will work under CentOS 6. GnuCash 
2.4.3 works just fine for what I need to do.

It is not GnuCash's docs that are broken, but yelp-2.28.1-17.el6_3 itself.  
See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614034.

> 

> That aside, they're available as online HTML and for download as PDF, ebook,
> and mobi from www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml

OK, I guess I will have to download them sometime when I am someplace with 
faster Internet access (I have dial-up at home).

> . If that's not sufficient you can point
> calibre at the docbook XML that you have installed and convert it to a
> variety of other formats.

What is calibre?  I don't seem to have it installed on my CentOS 6 system.

> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>  

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Re: GnuCash documentation (gnucash-docs-2.4.3-1.el6.noarch)...

2017-09-02 Thread Geert Janssens
On zaterdag 2 september 2017 17:13:47 CEST Robert Heller wrote:
> At Sat, 2 Sep 2017 07:35:22 -0700 John Ralls  wrote:
> > > On Sep 2, 2017, at 7:25 AM, Robert Heller  > > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > For some reason, yelp (yelp-2.28.1-17.el6_3.x86_64) crashes when reading
> > > the GnuCash help files (using the Help menu item).  Is there some other
> > > tool that can be used to read them?  Or some way to convert them to
> > > some other format?> 
> > Have you tested with a version of the GnuCash documents that's a little
> > more recent than 2013?
> 
> I don't believe a newer version of GnuCash will work under CentOS 6. GnuCash
> 2.4.3 works just fine for what I need to do.
> 
> It is not GnuCash's docs that are broken, but yelp-2.28.1-17.el6_3 itself.
> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614034.
> 
> > That aside, they're available as online HTML and for download as PDF,
> > ebook, and mobi from www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml
> 
> OK, I guess I will have to download them sometime when I am someplace with
> faster Internet access (I have dial-up at home).
> 
> > . If that's not sufficient you can
> > point
> > calibre at the docbook XML that you have installed and convert it to a
> > variety of other formats.
> 
> What is calibre?  I don't seem to have it installed on my CentOS 6 system.

Calibre started out as an ebook manager, supporting many different file 
formats. It also allows to convert between several of them. I don't think 
RHEL/Centos provide it.

Geert
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Re: Unsaved Book

2017-09-02 Thread isuy
Solved. Removed ~/.conf/dbus directory and it was regenerated when  
GnuCash restarted. It works fine now.


Thanks everyone for your time.


On 09/02/2017 07:07, Geert Janssens wrote:

On zaterdag 2 september 2017 15:57:01 CEST John Ralls wrote:

On Sep 2, 2017, at 1:56 AM, Geert Janssens 
wrote:>
On zaterdag 2 september 2017 08:19:55 CEST isuy wrote:

Hi, there was a power outage while I was working on GnuCash. Since then,
whenever I start the program, instead of a window showing the opened
gnucash file, it shows two buttons, "Save" and "Close"  with "Unsaved
Book" on the title bar. I can still open the gnucash file from that
window, but this is not normal. Another problem is that I can't change
anything on preferences window. All check boxes and radio buttons are
fixed.

My OS is FreeBSD(ver 11.1) and I uninstall and removed ~/.gnucash and
then reinstalled it, but the problem is still there.

These preferences are stored in OS X' native defaults system. It appears
the power outage has corrupted these in some way. These preferences are
stored in /Users//Library/Preferences/gnucash.plist
You can try to restore a backup of this file from before the power outage
or reset your settings by removing that file.

Note the Library folder is hidden from the finder so to access it you'll
have to use Go->Go to folder... (this is from OS  X 10.7, the name and
menu location may have changed meanwhile).

Umm, FreeBSD != MacOS, though part of MacOS is based on FreeBSD.

For FreeBSD I'd expect that the preferences are stored and managed with GBus
as they are on Linux.

Regards,
John RAlls

Oops, I completely misread that. I had read "OS X based on FreeBSD xyz). Sorry
for the noise...

Geert

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Newbie question .

2017-09-02 Thread George Laczko
Hello ,

I have a question .

I'm saving money on various accounts (pension ,  insurance , etc ) that
will be used years later and which i currently  pay monthly .  Where should
i put them in my bookkeeping ? Expenses or savings ?

( sorry i'm a new user and english isn't my native language )

Your help will be appreciated .

Regards

George


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Re: Re : Re : Could not obtain the lock

2017-09-02 Thread David Carlson
Alain, sometimes Windows does some weird things if its settings get messed
up.

Next time you want to see if it is already running try Alt-Tab several
times to see all the programs that are running.   There are other ways to
check as well.

David C

On Sep 2, 2017 3:26 AM, "Alain Dormoy"  wrote:


*Thank you David.*
*I don't think I'm starting GC more times than I'm shutting it down. If
it's running I access it through the icon at the base of my desk, it's only
if the icon is missing that I "start" GC. *
*If I don't intend to use it for a long while I save whatever still needs
to be saved and I click on the cross in the upper right corner of my screen
(am I missing something?) *
*Alain*


*De :* David Carlson 
*Date :* samedi 2 septembre 2017 12:37
*À :* Alain Dormoy 
*Cc :* Colin Law  ; Robert Heller 
; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
*Objet :* Re: Re : Could not obtain the lock

It sounds like you are starting GnuCash more times than you are shutting it
down.  GnuCash can open more than one instance at a time, which would cause
the same message.

Take care to return to the open instance rather than starting a new
instance when you return, because it is possible to lose data from the
first instance when the second instance is shut down.

David C

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Alain Dormoy  wrote:

>
>
> --
> De : "Colin Law" 
> Date : vendredi 1 septembre 2017 13:12
> À : "Alain Dormoy" 
> Cc : 
> Objet : Re: Could not obtain the lock
>
> On 1 September 2017 at 11:51, Alain Dormoy  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> More often than not, when I launch GnuCash, I get the message:
>>>
>>> Gnucash could not obtain the lock for file:\...\filename.gnucash
>>>
>>> I click "Open anyway" and it works normally. So I can't say I really care
>>> but it's a bit puzzling.
>>>
>>> Anyone has an explanation and can I do something to change that?
>>>
>>
>> That normally happens when GC has not been closed down correctly. How
>> are you closing it?
>> Also which operating system are you using and which version GC?
>>
>> Colin
>>
>
>
>
> I'm using Windows 7.
> I normally close GC before turning my computer off. But I hardly turn it
> off more than once a week and the "incident" I'm refering to happens most
> every day.
>
> Alain
>
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Re: Newbie question .

2017-09-02 Thread Aaron Laws
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 3:24 PM, George Laczko  wrote:

> Hello ,
>
> I have a question .
>
> I'm saving money on various accounts (pension ,  insurance , etc ) that
> will be used years later and which i currently  pay monthly .  Where should
> i put them in my bookkeeping ? Expenses or savings ?
>
> ( sorry i'm a new user and english isn't my native language )
>
> Your help will be appreciated .
>
> Regards
>
> George


These are assets. Savings is a type of asset. Be sure to read the users'
guide; it goes over much of this type of information.
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Re: Help needed: 2.6.17 not building on 32-bit systems

2017-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sat, 2 Sep 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:


I believe resolving version incompatibilities will fix the problem.
Perhaps that upgraded libicul18n libraries broke gnucash led me down this
long path. That'll be the next tests if needed.


  I've cleaned out the rest of the cruft from long ago. There are now no
duplicate files in /usr/ and /usr/local/.

  With the older dependency versions, 2.6.17 now cannot find "libgnc-gnome".
My web search for the package that provides that finds no hits. What should
provide that file?

Rich
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Re: Help needed: 2.6.17 not building on 32-bit systems

2017-09-02 Thread John Ralls


> On Sep 2, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:
> 
>> I believe resolving version incompatibilities will fix the problem.
>> Perhaps that upgraded libicul18n libraries broke gnucash led me down this
>> long path. That'll be the next tests if needed.
> 
>  I've cleaned out the rest of the cruft from long ago. There are now no
> duplicate files in /usr/ and /usr/local/.
> 
>  With the older dependency versions, 2.6.17 now cannot find "libgnc-gnome".
> My web search for the package that provides that finds no hits. What should
> provide that file?

It’s part of GnuCash. Any library that starts with libgnc or libgncmod is part 
of GnuCash. Its main external dependency is libgtk-x11.so though it has several 
others in the Gnome stack.

You do know that there are distros that do provide GnuCash and quite possibly 
the other programs you need without your having to build them yourself, right?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Tax Tables - an illustrated primer?

2017-09-02 Thread Christopher Lam
Hi Users & Devs,

I'd like to gather data on how Business > Tax Tables are currently being
used by users. Tutorial is rather blank on this; says "set up your tax
tables", "choose name, entries and percentage or amount", and in doubt,
seek an accountant who usually doesn't use gnc.

>From my understanding, Tax Tables are mainly used to *automatically*
calculate various county and state taxes as applied to business invoices
and bills... but it's rather confusing that:
- menu is labelled 'Sales Tax Tables' but the tables are designed for both
sales & purchase taxes
- multiple tax table entries are possible
- each tax table entry allows *multiple* account selection, each with its
own percentage/amount and tax account

So instead of delving deep into theory of taxes and how they apply, could
users please let me know illustrated examples of how they have set up their
tables in their jurisdiction, and example invoices/bills that apply? I'm
especially keen on an example of an invoice/bill which has multiple
entries, each with its own tax table, and the tax table entry incorporates
multiple tax accounts. (If this makes any sense... because the software
supports it!)

This could be used to populate the documentation with examples to follow.

Ultimately I'll be keen to create a periodic report which sums all relevant
data, such as for the Australian Tax Office which wants to know GSTs on
sales & purchases every quarter.

Thank you!
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