Re: Time for 2.5.1
On 5/6/2013 8:32 AM, David Carlson wrote: > On 5/5/2013 3:25 AM, Robert Fewell wrote: >> Alex, >> >> There is only one header row but the titles change depending on which row >> you are on in the register. This is deliberate to utilises the sort model. >> >> I did not think it was necessary to have the extra number on the >> transaction row, just looked a bit cluttered so have left it out. If you >> think it is required, then raise a bug and I will add it back. >> >> What you have at the moment is my interpretation of the existing register >> with some subtle changes like you have mentioned but should be close to the >> existing unless I have made a hash of it. >> >> As you say, I think if there is some thing to discuss, get opinions on, >> then it would be easier on the list and then raise a bug for that item. If >> there is some thing plain wrong, then raise a bug would be best. >> >> Thank you for trying it, >> >>Robert. >> ___ >> gnucash-devel mailing list >> gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >> > I have downloaded 2.5.1 for Windows and so far I think it will be a > winner. I do have a couple of comments. > > I think that the look and feel of the new register should be visibly > different from the old register. I was slightly disappointed when it > looked almost the same as before, particularly in bank account and > credit card account registers. Your use of the vertical blue line in > future transactions in certain types of registers is one example of > something that I really like. Maybe one could argue that it should be > in the left hand or right hand border, but I think it really should be > there in all registers. > > In previous versions I used to be frustrated sometimes when editing some > multi-line split transactions if a mouse click on a line near the one > that had the current focus moved the entire transaction on the screen > but it did not put the target field under the mouse pointer with the new > focus in the desired field where I had clicked. Then the next keystroke > would end up in the wrong field. So far I have not found that here. I > will go back to the old version to see if I can find specific examples > to test. > > That is my first 5 minutes of testing this version. > > David C > > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel In further testing I found and reported via bug 699790 my findings regarding anomalous behavior under certain circumstances when editing multi-line split transactions. Additionally, I have experienced crashes when attempting to edit scheduled transactions and transactions in the account plus sub-accounts view, which I believe are known issues. The progress to date on this release is very nice to see. I want to see more. David C 0xDC7C8BF3.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Time for 2.5.1
David, Thank you for testing, I am a little confused by your last update. As I have pointed out on the bug mentioned, I am only interested in the new registers which all have the vertical status line and the columns can be moved so you can move it at your pleasure. Sub account registers do not allow changes, the status line is all red so find it perplexing that you are trying to edit one ! In the Schedule editor, the default behaviour is to use the old style register view so to use the new style you need to use the menu option 'scheduled->New2 and Edit2' which also have the vertical status column. This may change in the next release. What problems are you having ? Regards, Robert ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Time for 2.5.1
On 5/8/2013 10:07 AM, Robert Fewell wrote: > David, > > Thank you for testing, I am a little confused by your last update. As I > have pointed out on the bug mentioned, I am only interested in the new > registers which all have the vertical status line and the columns can be > moved so you can move it at your pleasure. > > Sub account registers do not allow changes, the status line is all red so > find it perplexing that you are trying to edit one ! > > In the Schedule editor, the default behaviour is to use the old style > register view so to use the new style you need to use the menu option > 'scheduled->New2 and Edit2' which also have the vertical status column. > This may change in the next release. What problems are you having ? > > Regards, > > Robert > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > I am confused too. Using GnuCash 2.5.1 I opened a file that I have been editing forever with older versions of Gnucash. That file has many register windows left open from previous use. In retrospect I was confused by thinking that all those windows were in the new register view because I no longer saw any option to open then in the new register2 view but there was an option to open in the old view. (When I mention the old behavior my intent is simply to use it as a reference for comparison.) Then, there was a search window created by the since last run assistant, so from there I selected a transaction, right clicked and selected the Schedule option. This opened the scheduled transaction (I think) in the new view. When I tried to edit it GnuCash crashed. I restarted GnuCash, went to the chart of accounts, created a new sub-account of a fixed asset account. Then I opened the fixed asset account in the sub-account view(not Old Sub-account view). There were no red areas other than the highlighted field that alternates between blue and red background depending on whether I am actively editing to show the status of the highlight or focus, or whatever in this particular theme. It was possible to start an edit but again GnuCash crashed. If the vertical line was supposed to be red, it definitely was not. I thought that both of those incidents were artifacts of incomplete code updates to those types of registers in the new view, since this is a work in progress, so I only mentioned them in passing. Now I have re-installed 2.5.1 and re-opened that same file. I returned to the same asset account and re-opened it in the sub-account view. It does appear to be in the register2 view judging by the different titles. there is no red anywhere on the page other than a few negative numbers here and there. It appears that I can edit some fields if I left click on them, but I have not tried to commit an edit yet. Now in a register2 view of a credit card account transaction that has multiple split lines in that account, as you pointed out, the transaction does only appear once in the Auto-split view. However, if I right click on it and select the choice 'Schedule..' the scheduled transaction does open in the register2 view. There is no scheduled->new2 or edit2 option in the right click drop-down list. Attempting an edit again crashed Gnucash. I agree that we need to be on the same page so I am trying to describe my testing as completely as possible. Otherwise we are both spinning our wheels. Is this enough for now? David C 0xDC7C8BF3.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Help needed on the bug reports on gnucash reports?
Hi Carsten, thanks a lot for all the work on the bugreports so far. It is up to you which step to do next. Personally, I'd pick the enhancements that align with your personal wishes, and do those... Regards, Christian Am Dienstag, 7. Mai 2013, 23:53:38 schrieb Carsten Rinke: > Hi Geert, > > meanwhile I have started walk through the open bugs on the reports and > hope to conclude it by next week (currently I cannot continue as I am on > travel). > > I start wondering what comes after: > - I could start trying to work on some of the bugs > - I could start working on the report documentation in order to have a > baseline to judge if something really is a bug > - I could continue picking any enhancement that comes closest to my > current personal wish and simply try to implement it > - etc. > > Is there a rule set that helps avoid double work and let's me pick the > right thing first? > Especially regarding enhancements: Who can decide if something is an > enhancement or not before someone starts implementing it? > > Thanks, > Carsten > > On 03/26/2013 06:46 PM, Geert Janssens wrote: > > [ Reposted from another mail address. Sorry if you received this mail > > twice ] > > > > Hi Carsten, > > > > Thank you for your offer to help us with the bug reports. > > > > In addtition to your proposed suggestions, I would also like to add: > > - if there's not enough information to reproduce a bug, ask the original > > reporter for more details. Often a gnucash trace file helps already (1) > > - in general make sure a bug report is complete: is the platform given > > (linux/windows/mac, 32 bit/64bit, what happened, does it happen alway, > > how to reproduce,...) > > - find duplicate bugs and mark them as such > > - ... > > > > The other developers may has some additional suggestions. > > > > Note that I have moved your question to the gnucash-devel mailing list > > since it is development related. > > > > Thanks again for volunteering. > > > > Geert > > > > > > (1) Where to find the gnucash trace file depends a bit on the user's > > platform. Here is a link I usually provide to the bug submitters for > > more details: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile > > > > On Monday 25 March 2013 19:34:23 Carsten Rinke wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I just browsed through some of the bug reports about GnuCash reports. > >> Looks like some bugs have been confirmed but are still in status > >> unconfirmed since ages (and similar issues). > >> > >> It seems, there is some cleanup needed, e.g. closing old and not > >> reproducable bugs, re-classifying reported bugs into enhancement > >> requests etc. > >> > >> How can I help with that? > >> Carsten > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-u...@gnucash.org > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Time for 2.5.1
On 5/8/2013 1:37 PM, David Carlson wrote: > On 5/8/2013 10:07 AM, Robert Fewell wrote: >> David, >> >> Thank you for testing, I am a little confused by your last update. As I >> have pointed out on the bug mentioned, I am only interested in the new >> registers which all have the vertical status line and the columns can be >> moved so you can move it at your pleasure. >> >> Sub account registers do not allow changes, the status line is all red so >> find it perplexing that you are trying to edit one ! >> >> In the Schedule editor, the default behaviour is to use the old style >> register view so to use the new style you need to use the menu option >> 'scheduled->New2 and Edit2' which also have the vertical status column. >> This may change in the next release. What problems are you having ? >> >> Regards, >> >> Robert >> ___ >> gnucash-devel mailing list >> gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >> > I am confused too. Using GnuCash 2.5.1 I opened a file that I have been > editing forever with older versions of Gnucash. That file has many > register windows left open from previous use. In retrospect I was > confused by thinking that all those windows were in the new register > view because I no longer saw any option to open then in the new > register2 view but there was an option to open in the old view. > > (When I mention the old behavior my intent is simply to use it as a > reference for comparison.) > > Then, there was a search window created by the since last run assistant, > so from there I selected a transaction, right clicked and selected the > Schedule option. This opened the scheduled transaction (I think) in the > new view. When I tried to edit it GnuCash crashed. > > I restarted GnuCash, went to the chart of accounts, created a new > sub-account of a fixed asset account. Then I opened the fixed asset > account in the sub-account view(not Old Sub-account view). There were > no red areas other than the highlighted field that alternates between > blue and red background depending on whether I am actively editing to > show the status of the highlight or focus, or whatever in this > particular theme. It was possible to start an edit but again GnuCash > crashed. If the vertical line was supposed to be red, it definitely was > not. > > I thought that both of those incidents were artifacts of incomplete code > updates to those types of registers in the new view, since this is a > work in progress, so I only mentioned them in passing. > > Now I have re-installed 2.5.1 and re-opened that same file. I returned > to the same asset account and re-opened it in the sub-account view. It > does appear to be in the register2 view judging by the different > titles. there is no red anywhere on the page other than a few negative > numbers here and there. It appears that I can edit some fields if I > left click on them, but I have not tried to commit an edit yet. > > Now in a register2 view of a credit card account transaction that has > multiple split lines in that account, as you pointed out, the > transaction does only appear once in the Auto-split view. However, if I > right click on it and select the choice 'Schedule..' the scheduled > transaction does open in the register2 view. There is no > scheduled->new2 or edit2 option in the right click drop-down list. > Attempting an edit again crashed Gnucash. > > I agree that we need to be on the same page so I am trying to describe > my testing as completely as possible. Otherwise we are both spinning > our wheels. > > Is this enough for now? > > David C > > > > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel Now I have another question. If I am in a register2 view and using basic ledger view, how do I edit a transaction? Specifically how do I edit a split transaction, but I also might want to edit a simple transaction. I have not found the secret. David C 0xDC7C8BF3.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Help needed on the bug reports on gnucash reports?
On 5/8/2013 3:39 PM, Christian Stimming wrote: > Hi Carsten, > > thanks a lot for all the work on the bugreports so far. > > It is up to you which step to do next. Personally, I'd pick the enhancements > that align with your personal wishes, and do those... > > Regards, > > Christian > > That method doesn't work for me. After a while I would just quit. I would suggest choosing another criterion such as oldest first or alphabetical. That should mix things up between important to me and important to others with a few trivial or nonsense items appearing from time to time(those are probably from me). David C 0xDC7C8BF3.asc Description: application/pgp-keys 0xDC7C8BF3.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
