Re: [PATCH] GNOME 2: HIGify transfer dialog #2.

2004-05-06 Thread David Hampton
On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 07:25, Christian Neumair wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 13:57 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote:
> > The attached patch aims to HIGify the transfer dialog.
> 
> I didn't take into account that some of the functions I changed are
> exposed to other parts of the app. The attached patch should fix
> compilation.

Committed.

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Re: [PATCH] GNOME 2: HIGify welcome dialog.

2004-05-06 Thread David Hampton
On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 07:31, Christian Neumair wrote:
> The attached patch aims to HIGify the welcome/new user dialog.

Committed.

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Re: [PATCH] GNOME 2: HIGify transfer dialog #2.

2004-05-06 Thread Derek Atkins
Christian,

For the record, changing APIs can be a LOT of work.  You _must_
take into account not only callers in other C functions, but also
the potential for users from Scheme.  Changing the name of the
function is pretty easy to handle, but changing the calling convention
can require a LOT of grepping through scheme code.

Just keep this in mind in the future.  Sometimes it's better to leave
the function as it is, even if it's name isn't 100% accurate in terms
of what it does.  99% is "good enough".  :)

-derek

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> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 07:25, Christian Neumair wrote:
>> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 13:57 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote:
>> > The attached patch aims to HIGify the transfer dialog.
>> 
>> I didn't take into account that some of the functions I changed are
>> exposed to other parts of the app. The attached patch should fix
>> compilation.
>
> Committed.
>
> David
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ANNOUNCE: Online Docs [was Re: QOF help!]

2004-05-06 Thread Linas Vepstas
Hi,

On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:10:41PM +0100, Neil Williams was heard to remark:
> On Monday 03 May 2004 4:07, you wrote:
> > > Where's the documentation for using QOF and Gnucash together?

I just cleaned up and updated the QOF part of the docs, and put them
online.  Take a look at:

http://qof.sourceforge.net/doxy/modules.html

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Re: ANNOUNCE: Online Docs

2004-05-06 Thread Derek Atkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linas Vepstas) writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:10:41PM +0100, Neil Williams was heard to remark:
>> On Monday 03 May 2004 4:07, you wrote:
>> > > Where's the documentation for using QOF and Gnucash together?
>
> I just cleaned up and updated the QOF part of the docs, and put them
> online.  Take a look at:
>
> http://qof.sourceforge.net/doxy/modules.html

Cool.  Once this gets merged back into the gnucash tree we'll
pick it up in our nightly doc build :)

Nice work, Linas. :)

> --linas

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Re: QOF help!

2004-05-06 Thread Linas Vepstas
On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 09:41:17PM -0400, Derek Atkins was heard to remark:
> 
> (the latter being the list archives).  Right now machine1 (www) has
> very limited disk space (at least until Linas upgrades his machine).

? Its had about 30GB of free disk space for about 5 years now ...
How much do you need?

> Machine2 is also SIGNIFICANTLY faster!

Well, www is no snozer at a dual-cpu 500MHz system. Its about 99% idle. 
I think Derek has a T1 line, though, whereas my internet provider is 
crappy.  (Although: they *ARE* still in business, unlike my last 
4 internet providers).

Derek's thinking of www.linas.org which is an old 486.  

> Linas may not agree, however, if he wants to keep the "gnucash look at
> feel" of the docs.  But I don't know how hard that would be to get
> doxygen to use SSI.  It might be easier with frames.

Well, doxygen does use CSS, and its default color scheme is close
to the gnucash colors.  Quite unlike the horrid mailman default colors.

If someone (cstim?) could tweak the doxygen config to include the 
gnucash website header and footer, that would be nice.

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Online Docs (was Re: QOF help!)

2004-05-06 Thread Derek Atkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linas Vepstas) writes:

> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 09:41:17PM -0400, Derek Atkins was heard to remark:
>> 
>> (the latter being the list archives).  Right now machine1 (www) has
>> very limited disk space (at least until Linas upgrades his machine).
>
> ? Its had about 30GB of free disk space for about 5 years now ...
> How much do you need?

I guess not a lot for this.  If you want to host the docs on
www.gnucash.org I've attached the (short) script that I put into
/etc/cron.daily to pull down CVS and build the docs every night.  I
don't have a strong preference where it lives.  I just wasn't sure if
you'd want to put the docs into an SSI with the GnuCash menubar.

>> Machine2 is also SIGNIFICANTLY faster!
>
> Well, www is no snozer at a dual-cpu 500MHz system. Its about 99% idle. 
> I think Derek has a T1 line, though, whereas my internet provider is 
> crappy.  (Although: they *ARE* still in business, unlike my last 
> 4 internet providers).
>
> Derek's thinking of www.linas.org which is an old 486.  

My appologies, you are correct.  I was thinking of www.linas.org,
which used to host cvs.gnucash.org.  The new machine here is a 2.4GHz
Celeron which is mostly idle (probably about 98-99%).

>> Linas may not agree, however, if he wants to keep the "gnucash look at
>> feel" of the docs.  But I don't know how hard that would be to get
>> doxygen to use SSI.  It might be easier with frames.
>
> Well, doxygen does use CSS, and its default color scheme is close
> to the gnucash colors.  Quite unlike the horrid mailman default colors.
>
> If someone (cstim?) could tweak the doxygen config to include the 
> gnucash website header and footer, that would be nice.

Does the header and footer include the left-side menubar?  If so,
should this live on your server?  I don't particularly care where it
lives...

> --linas

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Re: additional doxygen pages (was: Re: QOF help!)

2004-05-06 Thread Linas Vepstas
> >>I'm not sure how to use doxygen for architectural docs...  Could you
> >>provide an example or pointers to docs that describe it?
> >
> >Using \defgroup , \addtogroup , \example , \mainpage and \file , and a
> >bit of convention, one could build higher-level structural docs
> >along-side the lower level file/function/variable docs.

I'll take it up on myself to mark up the doc/*.txt files that I own,
(maybe not soon, but I'll do it).  However it would be really nice
if someone took the *texinfo files, and figured out how to turn those
into html.  It would also be nice if someone took the gnc_numeric*
out of the texinfo files, and put them back into the source code
header file, where they should have been all along.

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Re: additional doxygen pages (was: Re: QOF help!)

2004-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 06 May 2004 3:50, Linas Vepstas wrote:
> > >>I'm not sure how to use doxygen for architectural docs...  Could you
> > >>provide an example or pointers to docs that describe it?
> > >
> > >Using \defgroup , \addtogroup , \example , \mainpage and \file , and a
> > >bit of convention, one could build higher-level structural docs
> > >along-side the lower level file/function/variable docs.
>
> I'll take it up on myself to mark up the doc/*.txt files that I own,
> (maybe not soon, but I'll do it).  However it would be really nice
> if someone took the *texinfo files, and figured out how to turn those
> into html.  

Debian has a nice tool:
texi2html

I'm really snowed under at the moment but it's not a big job. Anyone else have 
Debian or this tool? Shall I just do this when I can? 

> It would also be nice if someone took the gnc_numeric* 
> out of the texinfo files, and put them back into the source code
> header file, where they should have been all along.

time, time, time.

:-)

Search engine is coming along fine, BTW. So far, I've indulged my fondness for 
strict HTML onto the gnucash template and formed an exact match that doesn't 
require deprecated tags (font) or structures (tables for presentation not 
data) using a little extra CSS. I've got the search engine code in and it's 
just a case of adapting it to the new paths. 

Not ready to commit via CVS yet (been out at work all day) and I've been 
unexpectedly called out to paid work again tomorrow. Expect first version on 
Saturday.

Could do the texi2html early next week?

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Re: additional doxygen pages

2004-05-06 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Debian has a nice tool:
> texi2html
>
> I'm really snowed under at the moment but it's not a big job. Anyone else have 
> Debian or this tool? Shall I just do this when I can? 

I've got a copy on my machine.  It's part of the standard tetex
package.  It would be nice if there were still a consistent place
for all the docs.

I could automate the texi2html conversion, too, but

> Search engine is coming along fine, BTW. So far, I've indulged my fondness for 
> strict HTML onto the gnucash template and formed an exact match that doesn't 
> require deprecated tags (font) or structures (tables for presentation not 
> data) using a little extra CSS. I've got the search engine code in and it's 
> just a case of adapting it to the new paths. 
>
> Not ready to commit via CVS yet (been out at work all day) and I've been 
> unexpectedly called out to paid work again tomorrow. Expect first version on 
> Saturday.

That's fine.  Once you commit the initial code I can work on the
ability to copy it into the web server area.  I've got the script in
hand, so just need to plug it in once we decide where on the web
server it needs to live.  Then we need to add appropriate links to
enable the searches.  :)

> Could do the texi2html early next week?

I'm wondering if this would be better/worse than converting to
a doxygen-based format..  I don't know.  Right now it will build
.info and .ps, but not .html in the tree...

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Re: Search engine

2004-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
> Search engine is coming along fine, BTW. So far, I've indulged my fondness 
> for  strict HTML onto the gnucash template and formed an exact match that 
> doesn't require deprecated tags (font) or structures (tables for 
> presentation not  data) using a little extra CSS. I've got the search engine 
> code in and it's  just a case of adapting it to the new paths. 
> 
> Not ready to commit via CVS yet (been out at work all day) and I've been 
> unexpectedly called out to paid work again tomorrow. Expect first version on 
> Saturday.
> 

There's a demo page (plain HTML, not search function) here:
http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test.html

It's my conversion of Lynas' Gnucash template into strict HTML.
Validation here:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.codehelp.co.uk%2Fcode%
2Ftest.html

At the moment, I've added a lot of CSS in the file that will go into a 
separate CSS external file for the search pages. (Some of the CSS might 
change slightly.)

Lynas, if you want to merge any of this with your www.gnucash.org content, 
feel free. I'll stick to the strict HTML for the search engine though - it 
makes the search result output easier to program because it doesn't need so 
many table definition codes. It's a slight reduction in the amount of HTML 
overall with the abandoning of the table for the sidebar - positional tables 
being deprecated by W3C for HTML 4.01.

As the final script will be on a different server, all I've done is amended 
the absolute references in the links into full URL links to www.gnucash.org 
so the translation and news/sidebar links work.

The links to the archives don't work - it's only a test page - but the paths 
are correct. It's a demo and the links to each archive (thinking about it 
now) are an artifact of the original script, they aren't needed for the 
search page - they just duplicate 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/ etc.

It's only an example and there'll need to be changes to accommodate the other 
lists (probably sub-pages) and it already automatically takes care of lists 
starting at different dates.

However, my French is rusty, my German is bad and my Portuguese and Dutch are 
non-existent! I'll be asking for help later to translate parts of the page!

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Re: Search engine

2004-05-06 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There's a demo page (plain HTML, not search function) here:
> http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test.html

A couple of comments (some on the CSS, some on the interface):

1) You don't have the various languages in the top-right corner
2) the columns of the search choices are too wide on my (mozilla) browser
3) why do you limit the search to 6 months?
4) once you have many many years of archives it could lead to a LOT
   of checkboxes.  Perhaps it would just be better to provide a
   start-date and end-date to limit the searches?
5) how do you specify which list(s) you're searching?
6) I dont think you need to list the monthly archives at the top
   of the page.  We've already got one interface to that, I don't think
   we need another one.
7) The font/size selection in the sidebar is different than the website.

> At the moment, I've added a lot of CSS in the file that will go into a 
> separate CSS external file for the search pages. (Some of the CSS might 
> change slightly.)
>
> As the final script will be on a different server, all I've done is amended 
> the absolute references in the links into full URL links to www.gnucash.org 
> so the translation and news/sidebar links work.

We might need some script to be able to download the sidebar from the
main server and place it on the alternate server..  Or perhaps the
search interface should live on www and the results on lists?
I'm not sure.

> The links to the archives don't work - it's only a test page - but the paths 
> are correct. It's a demo and the links to each archive (thinking about it 
> now) are an artifact of the original script, they aren't needed for the 
> search page - they just duplicate 
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/ etc.

Ahh, good.. This answers #6 above.

> It's only an example and there'll need to be changes to accommodate the other 
> lists (probably sub-pages) and it already automatically takes care of lists 
> starting at different dates.

Excellent.

> However, my French is rusty, my German is bad and my Portuguese and Dutch are 
> non-existent! I'll be asking for help later to translate parts of the page!

Sounds fine to me.  I'm sure the list managers would happily help you
add the search functionality to their lists.

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Re: Search engine

2004-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 06 May 2004 10:37, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > There's a demo page (plain HTML, not search function) here:
> > http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test.html
>
> A couple of comments (some on the CSS, some on the interface):

I spotted a few and I've just uploaded a new file.

> 4) once you have many many years of archives it could lead to a LOT
>of checkboxes.  Perhaps it would just be better to provide a
>start-date and end-date to limit the searches?

OK. Say defaulting to the last 3 or 4 years.

> 5) how do you specify which list(s) you're searching?

Later, later!

> 7) The font/size selection in the sidebar is different than the website.

Try that again, it's the same in Konqueror. However, there is a reason for any 
change. Linus uses fixed font sizes using font tags. These are deprecated by 
W3C and fixed font sizes cause problems for disabled / poor sighted visitors 
who then scale the text size manually. The strict format uses proportional 
font sizes - relative to the preferred font size in the browser preferences. 
Mozilla might be setting the default a little small.

> > As the final script will be on a different server, all I've done is
> > amended the absolute references in the links into full URL links to
> > www.gnucash.org so the translation and news/sidebar links work.
>
> We might need some script to be able to download the sidebar from the
> main server and place it on the alternate server..  Or perhaps the
> search interface should live on www and the results on lists?
> I'm not sure.

I'm sure I can solve that. Just need Linus' comments on the refreshed page.

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Re: Search engine

2004-05-06 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thursday 06 May 2004 10:37, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > There's a demo page (plain HTML, not search function) here:
>> > http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test.html
>>
>> A couple of comments (some on the CSS, some on the interface):
>
> I spotted a few and I've just uploaded a new file.

Ok..  Much better.  You're still missing the language links in the
upper-right corner.

>> 4) once you have many many years of archives it could lead to a LOT
>>of checkboxes.  Perhaps it would just be better to provide a
>>start-date and end-date to limit the searches?
>
> OK. Say defaulting to the last 3 or 4 years.

Well, I was mostly thinking about a set of option menus that let you
choose the start-date and end-date for your search.  So, instead of
using a lot of buttons, it's just two sets of month/year option menus,
or something.

But so far: good work!  :)

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Re: Search engine

2004-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 06 May 2004 11:01, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > I spotted a few and I've just uploaded a new file.
>
> Ok..  Much better.  You're still missing the language links in the
> upper-right corner.

These:
Language: English | Français | Deutsch (mirror) | Nederlands | Português
?

Which browser are you using? It's showing in Konqueror and Lynx.

> >> 4) once you have many many years of archives it could lead to a LOT
> >>of checkboxes.  Perhaps it would just be better to provide a
> >>start-date and end-date to limit the searches?
> >
> > OK. Say defaulting to the last 3 or 4 years.
>
> Well, I was mostly thinking about a set of option menus that let you
> choose the start-date and end-date for your search.  So, instead of
> using a lot of buttons, it's just two sets of month/year option menus,
> or something.

I'll try it.

>
> But so far: good work!  :)

Actually, it's working. (locally at least).
http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test-result.html

That was using a request:
search.php?terms=test+make&abstract=on&boolean=AND&case=sensitive

This leads to a bookmarkable search result. The options are:
terms   :   self-explanatory, each one separated by + as per Google
abstract:   on for a 250 character sample from the head of the message 
itself 
(not the file, the actual message), blank for off
boolean :   AND or OR only are recognised
case:   Insensitive or sensitive. (Will check why it's sensitive 
rather than 
Sensitive!)

Try the same thing yourself using grep on gnucash-devel/2004-April
(actually, I'm not sure how grep does a boolean AND search)

This way, you can construct a search request and put it into a link on another 
part of the website too.

The format WILL change because I'll have to include the archive and date to 
search.

It's a case of getting the other archives into the array with their own start 
dates, adding the multi-archive capability to the querystring (already 
supported in the code) and I'll post the first script probably tomorrow 
evening or Saturday afternoon.

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Re: Search engine

2004-05-06 Thread Derek Atkins
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> These:
> Language: English | Français | Deutsch (mirror) | Nederlands | Português
> ?

Yea.  Those.  They aren't visible in my browser.  I see them in the source
but they aren't being rendered.

> Which browser are you using? It's showing in Konqueror and Lynx.

mozilla 1.4

> Actually, it's working. (locally at least).
> http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test-result.html
>
> That was using a request:
> search.php?terms=test+make&abstract=on&boolean=AND&case=sensitive

Cool!  :)

> The format WILL change because I'll have to include the archive and date to 
> search.

That's fine...  I trust you on that.  I'll test it later. :)

> It's a case of getting the other archives into the array with their own start 
> dates, adding the multi-archive capability to the querystring (already 
> supported in the code) and I'll post the first script probably tomorrow 
> evening or Saturday afternoon.

Cool.  I would suggest a bunch of checkboxes for the archives to
search (maybe with some reasonable default based on the Referrer?).

Nice work.

-derek

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Re: Search engine

2004-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Thursday 06 May 2004 11:01, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > I spotted a few and I've just uploaded a new file.
>
> Ok..  Much better.  You're still missing the language links in the
> upper-right corner.

Mozilla was getting confused. When I tested in Firebird, the language links 
were present but one line too far down. That line is outside the banner and 
therefore it was printing the links white on white. Hmm.

A simple change to the flow of the document and it's fixed and uploaded, both 
files.

http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test.html
http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test-result.html

That's it for tonight - I'm dead tired.

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Re: Search engine

2004-05-06 Thread Derek Atkins
Much better.  Great job.  Sleep well.

-derek

Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thursday 06 May 2004 11:01, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> > I spotted a few and I've just uploaded a new file.
>>
>> Ok..  Much better.  You're still missing the language links in the
>> upper-right corner.
>
> Mozilla was getting confused. When I tested in Firebird, the language links 
> were present but one line too far down. That line is outside the banner and 
> therefore it was printing the links white on white. Hmm.
>
> A simple change to the flow of the document and it's fixed and uploaded, both 
> files.
>
> http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test.html
> http://www.codehelp.co.uk/code/test-result.html
>
> That's it for tonight - I'm dead tired.
>
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