Power settings ui freeze break request
Hi all, The current power panel settings have a few usability issues that it would be great to have fixed for 3.2. I have recently been working on a new design for these that could be implemented in the next couple of days (ie. before the string freeze). The relevant bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657916 The new design has been reviewed by several members of the design team. I've checked the user documentation and, from what I can tell, these changes will not have much impact there. Thanks, Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Power settings ui freeze break request
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:12 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > Hi all, > > The current power panel settings have a few usability issues that it > would be great to have fixed for 3.2. I have recently been working on > a new design for these that could be implemented in the next couple of > days (ie. before the string freeze). The relevant bug: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657916 > > The new design has been reviewed by several members of the design > team. I've checked the user documentation and, from what I can tell, > these changes will not have much impact there. The basic UI reshuffling will affect about a dozen pages. Maybe a few more from the removal of what to do when the power and sleep buttons are pressed, but that change already went in on master (after the announcement period, without an announcement). I'm a bit more concerned about this from the bug: Uses non-recommended terminology, such as 'sleep' (should be 'suspend') and 'computer' (doesn't work for tablets)." We've been bouncing around on sleep/suspend in the help, mostly because the UI bounces around. I'm happy to fix that if we've decided suspend is the word. That's a few more pages. But "computer"? grep tells me 110 pages use that word. That's just in gnome-help. Who decided that's not recommended? What are we supposed to use instead? System? Device? Thingamajig? And how are tablets not computers? -- Shaun ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Power settings ui freeze break request
Hey Shaun, On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:12 +0100, Allan Day wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The current power panel settings have a few usability issues that it >> would be great to have fixed for 3.2. I have recently been working on >> a new design for these that could be implemented in the next couple of >> days (ie. before the string freeze). The relevant bug: >> >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657916 >> >> The new design has been reviewed by several members of the design >> team. I've checked the user documentation and, from what I can tell, >> these changes will not have much impact there. > > The basic UI reshuffling will affect about a dozen pages. Just to be clear, the request is just to change one set of controls - it is to remove two check boxes and to rearrange two comboboxes. The critical power option will be unaffected, as will the status part of the panel (the bit that tells you about battery charge, etc). ... > I'm a bit more concerned about this from the bug: > > Uses non-recommended terminology, such as 'sleep' (should be > 'suspend') and 'computer' (doesn't work for tablets)." > > We've been bouncing around on sleep/suspend in the help, mostly > because the UI bounces around. I'm happy to fix that if we've > decided suspend is the word. That's a few more pages. Ensuring consistent use of 'suspend' is one goal here, although the UI changes are not dependent on that change. > But "computer"? grep tells me 110 pages use that word. That's > just in gnome-help. Who decided that's not recommended? What > are we supposed to use instead? System? Device? Thingamajig? Again, this isn't essential to the UI break. The system information panel uses the term 'Device'. I try to avoid referring to the machine itself in my UI design work. > And how are tablets not computers? I can certainly imagine some tablets being thought of as mobile devices in the same vein as mobile phones. I see the word 'computer' as becoming less relevant in general; it doesn't seem to tally with machines that are always on, mobile and cloud enabled. That's a discussion for another time though, I suspect. ;) Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Power settings ui freeze break request
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:01 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:12 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > The current power panel settings have a few usability issues that it > > would be great to have fixed for 3.2. I have recently been working on > > a new design for these that could be implemented in the next couple of > > days (ie. before the string freeze). The relevant bug: > > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657916 > > > > The new design has been reviewed by several members of the design > > team. I've checked the user documentation and, from what I can tell, > > these changes will not have much impact there. > > The basic UI reshuffling will affect about a dozen pages. Maybe > a few more from the removal of what to do when the power and > sleep buttons are pressed, but that change already went in on > master (after the announcement period, without an announcement). Well, holidays, plus Desktop Summit, plus presentation on behalf of the GNOME Foundation kind of eats into my maintainership time. > I'm a bit more concerned about this from the bug: > > Uses non-recommended terminology, such as 'sleep' (should be > 'suspend') and 'computer' (doesn't work for tablets)." > > We've been bouncing around on sleep/suspend in the help, mostly > because the UI bounces around. I'm happy to fix that if we've > decided suspend is the word. That's a few more pages. > > But "computer"? grep tells me 110 pages use that word. That's > just in gnome-help. Who decided that's not recommended? What > are we supposed to use instead? System? Device? Thingamajig? > And how are tablets not computers? FWIW, I think that computer is just fine. At least it's not something that I'd want to change _now_ for GNOME 3.2. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: UI freeze exception request: Empathy new experimental call UI
Le mercredi 31 août 2011 à 10:50 -0400, Colin Walters a écrit : > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Guillaume Desmottes > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > As you may know, the Empathy team is working on a new re-designed call > > UI: http://blog.desmottes.be/post/2011/08/26/Shiny-new-UI-in-Empathy-3.2 > > > > This UI is not used by default and need to be explicitly enabled when > > building > > Is there a reason this development isn't done in a branch? Doing so would > fix: That's an option indeed, but we usually prefer to work directly on releasable branches as it makes our life easier (as developers) and for people willing to test the new UI (it's built in Debian experimental for example). G. -- Guillaume Desmottes Jabber GPG 1024D/711E31B1 | 1B5A 1BA8 11AA F0F1 2169 E28A AC55 8671 711E 31B1 ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Power settings ui freeze break request
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:12 +0100, Allan Day wrote: ... >> The new design has been reviewed by several members of the design >> team. I've checked the user documentation and, from what I can tell, >> these changes will not have much impact there. > > The basic UI reshuffling will affect about a dozen pages. Maybe > a few more from the removal of what to do when the power and > sleep buttons are pressed, but that change already went in on > master (after the announcement period, without an announcement). ... These are the changes the break request is for: http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=195390 Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Power settings ui freeze break request
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 15:41 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:12 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > ... > >> The new design has been reviewed by several members of the design > >> team. I've checked the user documentation and, from what I can tell, > >> these changes will not have much impact there. > > > > The basic UI reshuffling will affect about a dozen pages. Maybe > > a few more from the removal of what to do when the power and > > sleep buttons are pressed, but that change already went in on > > master (after the announcement period, without an announcement). > ... > > These are the changes the break request is for: > > http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=195390 No objections for the docs, provided the end result matches these mockups (give or take some pixels). If it's different, please provide screenshots. Thanks, Shaun ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n