network-manager-applet translations

2010-06-10 Thread Claude Paroz
Hi Dan,

I saw that a bunch of various network-manager-applet translations have
been committed to Git, bypassing completely the GTP.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=589230
http://git.gnome.org/browse/network-manager-applet/log/?h=master (May
21st)

This is not nice as it does not respect the general policy that GNOME
Git-hosted modules are handled through GNOME Translation teams.

Could you please in the future redirect those contributions to concerned
teams of the GTP?

Cheers,

Claude

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Re: Should we really translate legal notices?

2010-06-10 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno mar, 08/06/2010 alle 20.13 -0700, Luis Villa ha scritto:

> My apologies for taking so long. After some thought, what I and our
> counsel would recommend from a legal perspective, at least for (L)GPL
> apps, is giving the following text twice, once in English and the
> other in the translated language:
> 
> " Copyright (C)   
> This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. The program is free
> software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain
> conditions. Click here for details. [link to license]"
> 
> If the translated license exists on the FSF website, then 'link to
> license' should point at that. Translators should not translate the
> full license themselves- if they want to translate it, they should
> talk to the FSF and work with them to create an official translation.
> If there is no translated license, then the license link should be to
> the English license.
> 
> I definitely recommend doing this through the toolkit so that the text
> remains consistent throughout the platform.

Did someone yet filed a bug against gtk+/glib?

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[libgnome-keyring] Created branch gnome-2-30

2010-06-10 Thread Stefan Walter
The branch 'gnome-2-30' was created pointing to:

 b03d894... [dist] Use tar-ustar instead of an old tar-v7

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Re: Should we really translate legal notices?

2010-06-10 Thread Wouter Bolsterlee
Op donderdag 10-06-2010 om 13:08 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Luca
Ferretti:
> Il giorno mar, 08/06/2010 alle 20.13 -0700, Luis Villa ha scritto:
> > I definitely recommend doing this through the toolkit so that the text
> > remains consistent throughout the platform.
> 
> Did someone yet filed a bug against gtk+/glib?

Earlier in this thread (message from May 19) I referenced this bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336225

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Re: network-manager-applet translations

2010-06-10 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 09:17 +0200, Claude Paroz wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> 
> I saw that a bunch of various network-manager-applet translations have
> been committed to Git, bypassing completely the GTP.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=589230
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/network-manager-applet/log/?h=master (May
> 21st)
> 
> This is not nice as it does not respect the general policy that GNOME
> Git-hosted modules are handled through GNOME Translation teams.
> 
> Could you please in the future redirect those contributions to concerned
> teams of the GTP?

Yes, sorry.

Dan


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Re: Should we really translate legal notices?

2010-06-10 Thread Gabor Kelemen

2010-06-09 05:13 keltezéssel, Luis Villa írta:

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Luis Villa  wrote:
   

I will look into this; thank you for bringing it up.
 

My apologies for taking so long. After some thought, what I and our
counsel would recommend from a legal perspective, at least for (L)GPL
apps, is giving the following text twice, once in English and the
other in the translated language:

   


Could you please elaborate on why is it necessary to have this short 
notice in two languages?
I can not imagine why and how would be this good, I never saw anything 
like that - but this is probably just me being young and inexperienced 
:). Adding redundancy here does not seem to be useful...


Regards
Gabor Kelemen

"  Copyright (C)   
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. The program is free
software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain
conditions. Click here for details. [link to license]"

If the translated license exists on the FSF website, then 'link to
license' should point at that. Translators should not translate the
full license themselves- if they want to translate it, they should
talk to the FSF and work with them to create an official translation.
If there is no translated license, then the license link should be to
the English license.

I definitely recommend doing this through the toolkit so that the text
remains consistent throughout the platform.

Let me know if this makes sense or needs clarification-
Luis

   

Luis

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka
  wrote:
 

Hello!

I'd like to raise a question which was already discussed in gnome-i18n
with no end result [1] in legal-l...@gnome.org hence this email.

Recently one of Gnome localizers, Andika Triwidada, asked in gnome-i18n
if we should really translate legal notices found in Gnome software
translation catalogues. He stated that there is a policy for this in
Fedora Project [2] which states that asks translators not to translate
legal notices since such translations are risky if not approved by
professional lawyers (which is of course not the case for 99% of Gnome
translations).

Localization participants tried to find any related policy on Gnome Wiki
pages with no success. Some translators stated that they translate
everything put in translation catalogues, legal notices included.

It would be great if Gnome legal experts will discuss this problem in
more detail and end up with final policy for translators.

Below are some examples of such translation messages. They are quite
common in Gnome applications translation catalogues.

#: ../src/brasero-app.c:1153
msgid ""
"Brasero is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the"
"terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software"
"Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later"
"version."
msgstr ""

#: ../src/brasero-app.c:1158
msgid ""
"Brasero is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY"
"WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS"
"FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more"
"details."
msgstr ""

#: ../src/brasero-app.c:1163
msgid ""
"You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with"
"Brasero; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin"
"Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA"
msgstr ""

[1]: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2010-April/msg00193.html
[2]:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/FAQ#Should_I_translate_legal_notices.3F

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String additions to 'gtk-engines.master'

2010-06-10 Thread GNOME Status Pages
This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
http://l10n.gnome.org.

There have been following string additions to module 'gtk-engines.master':

+ "Shade of accelerator labels"
+ "The value used to mix the label color with the background color. The 
value is effectively the opacity."

Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
might be worth investigating.
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[nautilus-actions] Created branch gnome-2-30

2010-06-10 Thread Pierre Wieser
The branch 'gnome-2-30' was created pointing to:

 cb58a2d... Update NEWS before release

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String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'

2010-06-10 Thread GNOME Status Pages
This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
http://l10n.gnome.org.

There have been following string additions to module 'gdm.gnome-2-30':

+ "Keyboard"
+ "Language"
+ "Session"

Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
might be worth investigating.
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String freeze for Gnac

2010-06-10 Thread The Gnac Team
Hello,

All strings in the master branch of Gnac have been frozen. We would be very
grateful if you could update the existing translations and possibly add new
ones. The release is planned for the 20th of June.

Translation status page:
http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnac/

Gnac project page:
http://gnac.sf.net

Thanks for the good work!

Sincerely,

The Gnac Team
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