[gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Steven Neumann
Dear Gmx Users,

I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght. Which
mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension?
another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the
nanotube or constraints using LINCS? Which of them is less computationally
expensive for the run?

Thank you in advance,

Steven
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Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
I think this is in topology, not in MDP. With PBC, you just specify
what happens to the particle after it crosses the edge of the box in
certain direction.

I have no preference regarding LINCS vs harmonic bonds.

You can also "freeze" only the rim atoms of the nanotube from both
ends and this will be almost the same as infinite tube. This solution
is faster on my taste.


Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Steven Neumann  wrote:
> Dear Gmx Users,
>
> I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght. Which
> mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension?
> another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the
> nanotube or constraints using LINCS? Which of them is less computationally
> expensive for the run?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Steven
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[gmx-users] trjcat after trjconv

2013-09-26 Thread Venkat Reddy
Dear all,
I have a basic doubt. Is there any difference between the two processes
where
1) I concatenate the trajectories and do trjconv to remove PBC, which is a
default process
2) Do trjconv on all the xtc files separately and then concatenate them.

Thank you for your time

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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat after trjconv

2013-09-26 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
I do not think that I ever tried myself, but is seems all the same.
Why do you ask?


Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Venkat Reddy  wrote:
> Dear all,
> I have a basic doubt. Is there any difference between the two processes
> where
> 1) I concatenate the trajectories and do trjconv to remove PBC, which is a
> default process
> 2) Do trjconv on all the xtc files separately and then concatenate them.
>
> Thank you for your time
>
> --
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> Department of Biotechnology
> IIT Madras
> Chennai
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Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/26/13 8:39 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Dear Gmx Users,

I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght. Which
mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension?
another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the
nanotube or constraints using LINCS? Which of them is less computationally
expensive for the run?



Use "pbc = xyz" in conjunction with "periodic_molecules = yes" otherwise the 
topology gets messed up trying to form unreasonable bonds.  The 
periodic_molecules keyword in the .mdp allows for bonds to be maintained over PBC.


I remember a very old post somewhere in the archive that said one should not 
apply pressure coupling along the axis of the nanotube, due to some difficulties 
with maintaining the bonded geometry, but since I have never done CNT 
simulations, take the fact that I'm just repeating what I've heard for what it's 
worth :)


Constraints always come with the cost of communication, so I would imagine 
harmonic bonds are "less expensive."  I really don't see constraints as a 
limiting factor for performance, though.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
I am just curious why the system would explode without
"periodic_molecules = yes". If the PBC procedure is applied before
harmonic bond potential is calculated, than the opposite nanotube
atoms should be (already) seen as neighboring. This looks the same as
the solvent molecule, one atom of which crossed the box boundary.

No?



Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
>
>
> On 9/26/13 8:39 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
>>
>> Dear Gmx Users,
>>
>> I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght. Which
>> mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension?
>> another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the
>> nanotube or constraints using LINCS? Which of them is less computationally
>> expensive for the run?
>>
>
> Use "pbc = xyz" in conjunction with "periodic_molecules = yes" otherwise the
> topology gets messed up trying to form unreasonable bonds.  The
> periodic_molecules keyword in the .mdp allows for bonds to be maintained
> over PBC.
>
> I remember a very old post somewhere in the archive that said one should not
> apply pressure coupling along the axis of the nanotube, due to some
> difficulties with maintaining the bonded geometry, but since I have never
> done CNT simulations, take the fact that I'm just repeating what I've heard
> for what it's worth :)
>
> Constraints always come with the cost of communication, so I would imagine
> harmonic bonds are "less expensive."  I really don't see constraints as a
> limiting factor for performance, though.
>
> -Justin
>
> --
> ==
>
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Postdoctoral Fellow
>
> Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
> School of Pharmacy
> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
> University of Maryland, Baltimore
> 20 Penn St.
> Baltimore, MD 21201
>
> jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441
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[gmx-users] Preprocessor statements

2013-09-26 Thread grita
Hi guys,

Is it possible to specify in the topol.top file preprocessor statements, so
that you can stop the simulation prematurely?

I pull two molecules together and I'd like to stop the simulation if the
center of mass distance of the molecules is less than xx nm.

Best,
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Re: [gmx-users] Preprocessor statements

2013-09-26 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
Unlikely possible... But yeah, the feature might be handy.


Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:20 PM, grita  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Is it possible to specify in the topol.top file preprocessor statements, so
> that you can stop the simulation prematurely?
>
> I pull two molecules together and I'd like to stop the simulation if the
> center of mass distance of the molecules is less than xx nm.
>
> Best,
> grita
>
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Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Steven Neumann
Thank you for this. And also I wish to attach a chain to my nanotube so
they will be both able to move together. Is that a matter of distance
restraints between nanotube atom and first atom of my chain or again -
LINCS? Both chain and nanotube are made of the same type of 8 type of
atoms. Please, advise.

Steven


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban wrote:

> I am just curious why the system would explode without
> "periodic_molecules = yes". If the PBC procedure is applied before
> harmonic bond potential is calculated, than the opposite nanotube
> atoms should be (already) seen as neighboring. This looks the same as
> the solvent molecule, one atom of which crossed the box boundary.
>
> No?
>
>
>
> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 9/26/13 8:39 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Gmx Users,
> >>
> >> I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght.
> Which
> >> mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension?
> >> another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the
> >> nanotube or constraints using LINCS? Which of them is less
> computationally
> >> expensive for the run?
> >>
> >
> > Use "pbc = xyz" in conjunction with "periodic_molecules = yes" otherwise
> the
> > topology gets messed up trying to form unreasonable bonds.  The
> > periodic_molecules keyword in the .mdp allows for bonds to be maintained
> > over PBC.
> >
> > I remember a very old post somewhere in the archive that said one should
> not
> > apply pressure coupling along the axis of the nanotube, due to some
> > difficulties with maintaining the bonded geometry, but since I have never
> > done CNT simulations, take the fact that I'm just repeating what I've
> heard
> > for what it's worth :)
> >
> > Constraints always come with the cost of communication, so I would
> imagine
> > harmonic bonds are "less expensive."  I really don't see constraints as a
> > limiting factor for performance, though.
> >
> > -Justin
> >
> > --
> > ==
> >
> > Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> > Postdoctoral Fellow
> >
> > Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
> > School of Pharmacy
> > Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
> > University of Maryland, Baltimore
> > 20 Penn St.
> > Baltimore, MD 21201
> >
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> >
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Re: [gmx-users] Preprocessor statements

2013-09-26 Thread Mark Abraham
No, there's no way to do that. But you can monitor the output
trajectory file yourself, live.

Mark

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban  wrote:
> Unlikely possible... But yeah, the feature might be handy.
>
>
> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:20 PM, grita  wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Is it possible to specify in the topol.top file preprocessor statements, so
>> that you can stop the simulation prematurely?
>>
>> I pull two molecules together and I'd like to stop the simulation if the
>> center of mass distance of the molecules is less than xx nm.
>>
>> Best,
>> grita
>>
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat after trjconv

2013-09-26 Thread Venkat Reddy
Dear Sir,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I accidentally lost one of my raw .xtc files. But I have the noPBC xtc
file. So, when ever I extend my simulation, first I am removing PBC then
concatenating it with existing noPBC xtc file. Is it fine??


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban wrote:

> I do not think that I ever tried myself, but is seems all the same.
> Why do you ask?
>
>
> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Venkat Reddy  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I have a basic doubt. Is there any difference between the two processes
> > where
> > 1) I concatenate the trajectories and do trjconv to remove PBC, which is
> a
> > default process
> > 2) Do trjconv on all the xtc files separately and then concatenate them.
> >
> > Thank you for your time
> >
> > --
> > With Best Wishes
> > Venkat Reddy Chirasani
> > PhD student
> > Laboratory of Computational Biophysics
> > Department of Biotechnology
> > IIT Madras
> > Chennai
> > INDIA-600036
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat after trjconv

2013-09-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Venkat,

It depends on what you mean with "removing pbc".

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Sep 26, 2013 5:21 PM, "Venkat Reddy"  wrote:

Dear Sir,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I accidentally lost one of my raw .xtc files. But I have the noPBC xtc
file. So, when ever I extend my simulation, first I am removing PBC then
concatenating it with existing noPBC xtc file. Is it fine??


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> I do not think that I ever tried myself, but is seems all the same. > Why
do you ask? > > > Dr. V...
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Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
Steven -

I would use a simple harmonic bond.


Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Steven Neumann  wrote:
> Thank you for this. And also I wish to attach a chain to my nanotube so they
> will be both able to move together. Is that a matter of distance restraints
> between nanotube atom and first atom of my chain or again - LINCS? Both
> chain and nanotube are made of the same type of 8 type of atoms. Please,
> advise.
>
> Steven
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban 
> wrote:
>>
>> I am just curious why the system would explode without
>> "periodic_molecules = yes". If the PBC procedure is applied before
>> harmonic bond potential is calculated, than the opposite nanotube
>> atoms should be (already) seen as neighboring. This looks the same as
>> the solvent molecule, one atom of which crossed the box boundary.
>>
>> No?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9/26/13 8:39 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Gmx Users,
>> >>
>> >> I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght.
>> >> Which
>> >> mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension?
>> >> another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the
>> >> nanotube or constraints using LINCS? Which of them is less
>> >> computationally
>> >> expensive for the run?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Use "pbc = xyz" in conjunction with "periodic_molecules = yes" otherwise
>> > the
>> > topology gets messed up trying to form unreasonable bonds.  The
>> > periodic_molecules keyword in the .mdp allows for bonds to be maintained
>> > over PBC.
>> >
>> > I remember a very old post somewhere in the archive that said one should
>> > not
>> > apply pressure coupling along the axis of the nanotube, due to some
>> > difficulties with maintaining the bonded geometry, but since I have
>> > never
>> > done CNT simulations, take the fact that I'm just repeating what I've
>> > heard
>> > for what it's worth :)
>> >
>> > Constraints always come with the cost of communication, so I would
>> > imagine
>> > harmonic bonds are "less expensive."  I really don't see constraints as
>> > a
>> > limiting factor for performance, though.
>> >
>> > -Justin
>> >
>> > --
>> > ==
>> >
>> > Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
>> > Postdoctoral Fellow
>> >
>> > Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
>> > School of Pharmacy
>> > Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
>> > University of Maryland, Baltimore
>> > 20 Penn St.
>> > Baltimore, MD 21201
>> >
>> > jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441
>> >
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[gmx-users] per mol of what?

2013-09-26 Thread Ángel Piñeiro
Hi
when calculating an energy contribution using g_energy, the units
specified in the plots, as well as in the output tables, are kJ/mol.
This happens even when the -nmol flag is missing (so nmol=1). On the
other hand, the energy units in gromacs are kJ/mol. So I guess that when
a term (a dihedral or whatever) is added to the total potential it
refers to kJ per mol of that term. The total energy of a system comes
from the sum of all the potential energy plus the kinetic energy
contributions and the units are again kJ/mol. Then, how should I
understand that? kJ per mol of system contained in the unit cell?

Let me put an example: I have 6 solute molecules solvated in 5000 SPC
waters and I use g_energy to determine the coulombic contribution to the
solute-water interactions or to the solute-solute interactions as a
function of time. The result is given in kJ/mol. If I want to determine
the same contribution(s) per mole of solute should I divide by 6
maintaining the units as kJ/mol? Then, if I have the same system with 12
solute molecules, would make sense to compare the equivalent
contribution divided by 12? After taking a look to the code and to the
results for a couple of systems I think this is correct but the answer
is too basic and important just to assume that I am right so I would be
happy if I have a confirmation.

Thanks in advance,

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[gmx-users] Writing periodic image coordinates.

2013-09-26 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear users,

For some analysis I require the 27 periodic images
of the system I ran the simulation for. Kindly let me
know how can it be written to a pdb file.

Thanking you
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat after trjconv

2013-09-26 Thread Venkat Reddy
Dear Tsjerk sir,
I used trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact options.



On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar  wrote:

> Hi Venkat,
>
> It depends on what you mean with "removing pbc".
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tsjerk
>
> On Sep 26, 2013 5:21 PM, "Venkat Reddy"  wrote:
>
> Dear Sir,
> Thanks for the quick reply.
> I accidentally lost one of my raw .xtc files. But I have the noPBC xtc
> file. So, when ever I extend my simulation, first I am removing PBC then
> concatenating it with existing noPBC xtc file. Is it fine??
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban  >wrote:
>
> > I do not think that I ever tried myself, but is seems all the same. > Why
> do you ask? > > > Dr. V...
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat after trjconv

2013-09-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Venkat,

These options are 'frame intrinsic' or 'history independent', unlike -pbc
nojump.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Sep 26, 2013 6:46 PM, "Venkat Reddy"  wrote:

Dear Tsjerk sir,
I used trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact options.

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wrote: > Hi Venkat, > > It...

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[gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Neale
Dear Users:

Has anyone successfully run the free energy tutorial at 
http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/GROMACS_4.6_example:_Direct_ethanol_solvation_free_energy
 ?

I just tried it and I get a segmentation fault immediately (see output at the 
end of this post).

I get a segfault with both 4.6.3 and 4.6.1.

Note that if I modify the .mdp file to set free-energy = no , then the 
simulation runs just fine. (I have, of course, set init-lambda-state in the 
.mdp file that I downloaded from the aforementioned site and I get a segfault 
with any value of init-lambda-state from 0 to 8).

gpc-f103n084-$ mdrun -nt 1 -deffnm ethanol.1 -dhdl ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg
 :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:

  GROup of MAchos and Cynical Suckers

:-)  VERSION 4.6.3  (-:

Contributions from Mark Abraham, Emile Apol, Rossen Apostolov,
   Herman J.C. Berendsen, Aldert van Buuren, Pär Bjelkmar,
 Rudi van Drunen, Anton Feenstra, Gerrit Groenhof, Christoph Junghans,
Peter Kasson, Carsten Kutzner, Per Larsson, Pieter Meulenhoff,
   Teemu Murtola, Szilard Pall, Sander Pronk, Roland Schulz,
Michael Shirts, Alfons Sijbers, Peter Tieleman,

   Berk Hess, David van der Spoel, and Erik Lindahl.

   Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
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as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1
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Option Filename  Type Description

  -s  ethanol.1.tpr  InputRun input file: tpr tpb tpa
  -o  ethanol.1.trr  Output   Full precision trajectory: trr trj cpt
  -x  ethanol.1.xtc  Output, Opt. Compressed trajectory (portable xdr format)
-cpi  ethanol.1.cpt  Input, Opt.  Checkpoint file
-cpo  ethanol.1.cpt  Output, Opt. Checkpoint file
  -c  ethanol.1.gro  Output   Structure file: gro g96 pdb etc.
  -e  ethanol.1.edr  Output   Energy file
  -g  ethanol.1.log  Output   Log file
-dhdl ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg  Output, Opt! xvgr/xmgr file
-field  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-table  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-tabletf  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-tablep  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-tableb  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-rerun  ethanol.1.xtc  Input, Opt.  Trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb cpt
-tpi  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-tpid ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -ei  ethanol.1.edi  Input, Opt.  ED sampling input
 -eo  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
  -j  ethanol.1.gct  Input, Opt.  General coupling stuff
 -jo  ethanol.1.gct  Output, Opt. General coupling stuff
-ffout  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-devout  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-runav  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -px  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -pf  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -ro  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -ra  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
 -rs  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
 -rt  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
-mtx  ethanol.1.mtx  Output, Opt. Hessian matrix
 -dn  ethanol.1.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
-multidir ethanol.1  Input, Opt., Mult. Run directory
-membed  ethanol.1.dat  Input, Opt.  Generic data file
 -mp  ethanol.1.top  Input, Opt.  Topology file
 -mn  ethanol.1.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file

Option   Type   Value   Description
--
-[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
-[no]version bool   no  Print version info and quit
-niceint0   Set the nicelevel
-deffnm  string ethanol.1  Set the default filename for all file options
-xvg enum   xmgrace  xvg plot formatting: xmgrace, xmgr or none
-[no]pd  bool   no  Use particle decompostion
-dd  vector 0 0 0   Domain decomposition grid, 0 is optimize
-ddorder enum   interleave  DD node order: interleave, pp_pme or cartesian
-npmeint-1  Number of separate nodes to be used for PME, -1
is guess
-nt  int1   Total number of threads to start (0 is guess)
-ntmpi   int0   Number of thread-MPI threads to start (0 is guess)
-ntomp   int0   Number of OpenMP threads per MPI process/thread
to start (0 is guess)
-ntomp_pme   int0   Number of OpenMP threads per MPI process/t

Re: [gmx-users] Writing periodic image coordinates.

2013-09-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Kavya,

genconf -nbox 3 3 3

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Kavyashree M  wrote:

> Dear users,
>
> For some analysis I require the 27 periodic images
> of the system I ran the simulation for. Kindly let me
> know how can it be written to a pdb file.
>
> Thanking you
> Regards
> Kavya
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Re: [gmx-users] per mol of what?

2013-09-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Ángel,


kJ per mol of system contained in the unit cell?
>
>
Exactly. As if whatever is in there is one 'molecule' (-nmol 1).

Adios!

Tsjerk





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Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/26/13 12:05 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban wrote:

Steven -

I would use a simple harmonic bond.



Note that either in the case of the distance restraint or harmonic interaction 
approach, both the CNT and the molecule to which it is tethered need to be in 
the same [moleculetype], so run pdb2gmx (or whatever you are using) with care.


-Justin



Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Steven Neumann  wrote:

Thank you for this. And also I wish to attach a chain to my nanotube so they
will be both able to move together. Is that a matter of distance restraints
between nanotube atom and first atom of my chain or again - LINCS? Both
chain and nanotube are made of the same type of 8 type of atoms. Please,
advise.

Steven


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban 
wrote:


I am just curious why the system would explode without
"periodic_molecules = yes". If the PBC procedure is applied before
harmonic bond potential is calculated, than the opposite nanotube
atoms should be (already) seen as neighboring. This looks the same as
the solvent molecule, one atom of which crossed the box boundary.

No?



Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:



On 9/26/13 8:39 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:


Dear Gmx Users,

I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght.
Which
mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension?
another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the
nanotube or constraints using LINCS? Which of them is less
computationally
expensive for the run?



Use "pbc = xyz" in conjunction with "periodic_molecules = yes" otherwise
the
topology gets messed up trying to form unreasonable bonds.  The
periodic_molecules keyword in the .mdp allows for bonds to be maintained
over PBC.

I remember a very old post somewhere in the archive that said one should
not
apply pressure coupling along the axis of the nanotube, due to some
difficulties with maintaining the bonded geometry, but since I have
never
done CNT simulations, take the fact that I'm just repeating what I've
heard
for what it's worth :)

Constraints always come with the cost of communication, so I would
imagine
harmonic bonds are "less expensive."  I really don't see constraints as
a
limiting factor for performance, though.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/26/13 10:19 AM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban wrote:

I am just curious why the system would explode without
"periodic_molecules = yes". If the PBC procedure is applied before
harmonic bond potential is calculated, than the opposite nanotube
atoms should be (already) seen as neighboring. This looks the same as
the solvent molecule, one atom of which crossed the box boundary.

No?




Without setting the periodic_molecules keyword, mdrun tries to assemble all the 
bonds within the unit cell.  Given that a bond between atoms at either end of 
the box would be very unfavorable, it would distort the system considerably, or 
fail altogether if using constraints.  Bonds only span PBC when instructed with 
periodic_molecules.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Membrane simulation with OPLS ff.

2013-09-26 Thread Karthigeyan.Nagarajan
Dear GMX users:
Is OPLSAA forcefield data already available for POPC membranes.  I am 
interested in simulation of proteins in POPC membrane.
Thank you.
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Re: [gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Mark Abraham
I found the -multi version of that tutorial a bit temperamental...
Michael Shirts suggested that double precision is more reliable for
expanded ensemble. Hopefully he can chime in in a day or two.

Mark

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Christopher Neale
 wrote:
> Dear Users:
>
> Has anyone successfully run the free energy tutorial at 
> http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/GROMACS_4.6_example:_Direct_ethanol_solvation_free_energy
>  ?
>
> I just tried it and I get a segmentation fault immediately (see output at the 
> end of this post).
>
> I get a segfault with both 4.6.3 and 4.6.1.
>
> Note that if I modify the .mdp file to set free-energy = no , then the 
> simulation runs just fine. (I have, of course, set init-lambda-state in the 
> .mdp file that I downloaded from the aforementioned site and I get a segfault 
> with any value of init-lambda-state from 0 to 8).
>
> gpc-f103n084-$ mdrun -nt 1 -deffnm ethanol.1 -dhdl ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg
>  :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:
>
>   GROup of MAchos and Cynical Suckers
>
> :-)  VERSION 4.6.3  (-:
>
> Contributions from Mark Abraham, Emile Apol, Rossen Apostolov,
>Herman J.C. Berendsen, Aldert van Buuren, Pär Bjelkmar,
>  Rudi van Drunen, Anton Feenstra, Gerrit Groenhof, Christoph Junghans,
> Peter Kasson, Carsten Kutzner, Per Larsson, Pieter Meulenhoff,
>Teemu Murtola, Szilard Pall, Sander Pronk, Roland Schulz,
> Michael Shirts, Alfons Sijbers, Peter Tieleman,
>
>Berk Hess, David van der Spoel, and Erik Lindahl.
>
>Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
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> Uppsala University & The Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden.
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>modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License
> as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1
>  of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
>
> :-)  mdrun  (-:
>
> Option Filename  Type Description
> 
>   -s  ethanol.1.tpr  InputRun input file: tpr tpb tpa
>   -o  ethanol.1.trr  Output   Full precision trajectory: trr trj cpt
>   -x  ethanol.1.xtc  Output, Opt. Compressed trajectory (portable xdr format)
> -cpi  ethanol.1.cpt  Input, Opt.  Checkpoint file
> -cpo  ethanol.1.cpt  Output, Opt. Checkpoint file
>   -c  ethanol.1.gro  Output   Structure file: gro g96 pdb etc.
>   -e  ethanol.1.edr  Output   Energy file
>   -g  ethanol.1.log  Output   Log file
> -dhdl ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg  Output, Opt! xvgr/xmgr file
> -field  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
> -table  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
> -tabletf  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
> -tablep  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
> -tableb  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
> -rerun  ethanol.1.xtc  Input, Opt.  Trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb cpt
> -tpi  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
> -tpid ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -ei  ethanol.1.edi  Input, Opt.  ED sampling input
>  -eo  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>   -j  ethanol.1.gct  Input, Opt.  General coupling stuff
>  -jo  ethanol.1.gct  Output, Opt. General coupling stuff
> -ffout  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
> -devout  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
> -runav  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -px  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -pf  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -ro  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -ra  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
>  -rs  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
>  -rt  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
> -mtx  ethanol.1.mtx  Output, Opt. Hessian matrix
>  -dn  ethanol.1.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
> -multidir ethanol.1  Input, Opt., Mult. Run directory
> -membed  ethanol.1.dat  Input, Opt.  Generic data file
>  -mp  ethanol.1.top  Input, Opt.  Topology file
>  -mn  ethanol.1.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
>
> Option   Type   Value   Description
> --
> -[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
> -[no]version bool   no  Print version info and quit
> -niceint0   Set the nicelevel
> -deffnm  string ethanol.1  Set the default filename for all file options
> -xvg enum   xmgrace  xvg plot formatting: xmgrace, xmgr or none
> -[no]pd  bool   no  Use particle decompostion
> -dd  vector 0 0 0   Domain decomposition grid, 0 is optimize
> -ddorder enum   interleave  DD node order: interleave, pp_pme or cartesian
> -npmeint-1   

[gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Neale
Thank you Mark.

I actually found that it crashed wihout the -multi part (no hamiltonian 
exchange). 
The command that I used was: mdrun -nt 1 -deffnm ethanol.1 -dhdl 
ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg

If I use the double precision version, there is no segfault. That's a working 
solution, but it is worrysome.

Thank you,
Chris.


-- original message --

I found the -multi version of that tutorial a bit temperamental...
Michael Shirts suggested that double precision is more reliable for
expanded ensemble. Hopefully he can chime in in a day or two.

Mark

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Christopher Neale
 wrote:
> Dear Users:
>
> Has anyone successfully run the free energy tutorial at 
> http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/GROMACS_4.6_example:_Direct_ethanol_solvation_free_energy
>  ?
>
> I just tried it and I get a segmentation fault immediately (see output at the 
> end of this post).
>
> I get a segfault with both 4.6.3 and 4.6.1.
>
> Note that if I modify the .mdp file to set free-energy = no , then the 
> simulation runs just fine. (I have, of course, set init-lambda-state in the 
> .mdp file that I downloaded from the aforementioned site and I get a segfault 
> with any value of init-lambda-state from 0 to 8).
>
> gpc-f103n084-$ mdrun -nt 1 -deffnm ethanol.1 -dhdl ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg
>  :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:
>
>   GROup of MAchos and Cynical Suckers
>
> :-)  VERSION 4.6.3  (-:
>
> Contributions from Mark Abraham, Emile Apol, Rossen Apostolov,
>Herman J.C. Berendsen, Aldert van Buuren, Pär Bjelkmar,
>  Rudi van Drunen, Anton Feenstra, Gerrit Groenhof, Christoph Junghans,
> Peter Kasson, Carsten Kutzner, Per Larsson, Pieter Meulenhoff,
>Teemu Murtola, Szilard Pall, Sander Pronk, Roland Schulz,
> Michael Shirts, Alfons Sijbers, Peter Tieleman,
>
>Berk Hess, David van der Spoel, and Erik Lindahl.
>
>Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
>  Copyright (c) 2001-2012,2013, The GROMACS development team at
> Uppsala University & The Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden.
> check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.
>
>  This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
>modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License
> as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1
>  of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
>
> :-)  mdrun  (-:
>
> Option Filename  Type Description
> 
>   -s  ethanol.1.tpr  InputRun input file: tpr tpb tpa
>   -o  ethanol.1.trr  Output   Full precision trajectory: trr trj cpt
>   -x  ethanol.1.xtc  Output, Opt. Compressed trajectory (portable xdr format)
> -cpi  ethanol.1.cpt  Input, Opt.  Checkpoint file
> -cpo  ethanol.1.cpt  Output, Opt. Checkpoint file
>   -c  ethanol.1.gro  Output   Structure file: gro g96 pdb etc.
>   -e  ethanol.1.edr  Output   Energy file
>   -g  ethanol.1.log  Output   Log file
> -dhdl ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg  Output, Opt! xvgr/xmgr file
> -field  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
> -table  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
> -tabletf  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
> -tablep  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
> -tableb  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
> -rerun  ethanol.1.xtc  Input, Opt.  Trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb cpt
> -tpi  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
> -tpid ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -ei  ethanol.1.edi  Input, Opt.  ED sampling input
>  -eo  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>   -j  ethanol.1.gct  Input, Opt.  General coupling stuff
>  -jo  ethanol.1.gct  Output, Opt. General coupling stuff
> -ffout  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
> -devout  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
> -runav  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -px  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -pf  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -ro  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>  -ra  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
>  -rs  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
>  -rt  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
> -mtx  ethanol.1.mtx  Output, Opt. Hessian matrix
>  -dn  ethanol.1.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
> -multidir ethanol.1  Input, Opt., Mult. Run directory
> -membed  ethanol.1.dat  Input, Opt.  Generic data file
>  -mp  ethanol.1.top  Input, Opt.  Topology file
>  -mn  ethanol.1.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
>
> Option   Type   Value   Description
> --
> -[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
> -[no]version bool   no  Print version info and quit
> -niceint0   Set the nicelevel
> -deffnm  string ethanol.1  Set the defa

Re: [gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Shirts
Just to be clear, is this the expanded ensemble version of the calculation?

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Mark Abraham  wrote:
> I found the -multi version of that tutorial a bit temperamental...
> Michael Shirts suggested that double precision is more reliable for
> expanded ensemble. Hopefully he can chime in in a day or two.
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Christopher Neale
>  wrote:
>> Dear Users:
>>
>> Has anyone successfully run the free energy tutorial at 
>> http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/GROMACS_4.6_example:_Direct_ethanol_solvation_free_energy
>>  ?
>>
>> I just tried it and I get a segmentation fault immediately (see output at 
>> the end of this post).
>>
>> I get a segfault with both 4.6.3 and 4.6.1.
>>
>> Note that if I modify the .mdp file to set free-energy = no , then the 
>> simulation runs just fine. (I have, of course, set init-lambda-state in the 
>> .mdp file that I downloaded from the aforementioned site and I get a 
>> segfault with any value of init-lambda-state from 0 to 8).
>>
>> gpc-f103n084-$ mdrun -nt 1 -deffnm ethanol.1 -dhdl ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg
>>  :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:
>>
>>   GROup of MAchos and Cynical Suckers
>>
>> :-)  VERSION 4.6.3  (-:
>>
>> Contributions from Mark Abraham, Emile Apol, Rossen Apostolov,
>>Herman J.C. Berendsen, Aldert van Buuren, Pär Bjelkmar,
>>  Rudi van Drunen, Anton Feenstra, Gerrit Groenhof, Christoph Junghans,
>> Peter Kasson, Carsten Kutzner, Per Larsson, Pieter Meulenhoff,
>>Teemu Murtola, Szilard Pall, Sander Pronk, Roland Schulz,
>> Michael Shirts, Alfons Sijbers, Peter Tieleman,
>>
>>Berk Hess, David van der Spoel, and Erik Lindahl.
>>
>>Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
>>  Copyright (c) 2001-2012,2013, The GROMACS development team at
>> Uppsala University & The Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden.
>> check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.
>>
>>  This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
>>modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License
>> as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1
>>  of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
>>
>> :-)  mdrun  (-:
>>
>> Option Filename  Type Description
>> 
>>   -s  ethanol.1.tpr  InputRun input file: tpr tpb tpa
>>   -o  ethanol.1.trr  Output   Full precision trajectory: trr trj cpt
>>   -x  ethanol.1.xtc  Output, Opt. Compressed trajectory (portable xdr format)
>> -cpi  ethanol.1.cpt  Input, Opt.  Checkpoint file
>> -cpo  ethanol.1.cpt  Output, Opt. Checkpoint file
>>   -c  ethanol.1.gro  Output   Structure file: gro g96 pdb etc.
>>   -e  ethanol.1.edr  Output   Energy file
>>   -g  ethanol.1.log  Output   Log file
>> -dhdl ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg  Output, Opt! xvgr/xmgr file
>> -field  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -table  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
>> -tabletf  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
>> -tablep  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
>> -tableb  ethanol.1.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
>> -rerun  ethanol.1.xtc  Input, Opt.  Trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb cpt
>> -tpi  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -tpid ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>>  -ei  ethanol.1.edi  Input, Opt.  ED sampling input
>>  -eo  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>>   -j  ethanol.1.gct  Input, Opt.  General coupling stuff
>>  -jo  ethanol.1.gct  Output, Opt. General coupling stuff
>> -ffout  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -devout  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -runav  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>>  -px  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>>  -pf  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>>  -ro  ethanol.1.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>>  -ra  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
>>  -rs  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
>>  -rt  ethanol.1.log  Output, Opt. Log file
>> -mtx  ethanol.1.mtx  Output, Opt. Hessian matrix
>>  -dn  ethanol.1.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
>> -multidir ethanol.1  Input, Opt., Mult. Run directory
>> -membed  ethanol.1.dat  Input, Opt.  Generic data file
>>  -mp  ethanol.1.top  Input, Opt.  Topology file
>>  -mn  ethanol.1.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
>>
>> Option   Type   Value   Description
>> --
>> -[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
>> -[no]version bool   no  Print version info and quit
>> -niceint0   Set the nicelevel
>> -deffnm  string ethanol.1  Set the default filename for all file options
>> -xvg enum   xmgrace  xvg plot formatting: xmgrace, xmgr or none

[gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Neale
My mistake  I still get a segfault even when using double precision. (EM 
doesn't help, nor does switching to Berendsen pressure coupling).

Note that I can stop the segfault when running at init-lambda-state = 0 if I 
set:

couple-lambda0   = none
couple-lambda1   = none

instead of 

couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
couple-lambda1   = none

This looks like http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/issues/1306

Thank you,
Chris.

-- original message --

Thank you Mark.

I actually found that it crashed wihout the -multi part (no hamiltonian 
exchange). 
The command that I used was: mdrun -nt 1 -deffnm ethanol.1 -dhdl 
ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg

If I use the double precision version, there is no segfault. That's a working 
solution, but it is worrysome.

Thank you,
Chris.

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[gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Neale
No, this is not the expanded ensemble version. It's the initial "Running the 
calculation with Gromacs" section straight out of 
http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/GROMACS_4.6_example:_Direct_ethanol_solvation_free_energy

I get the segfault with a single run (at any of the 9 individual lambda values).

-- original message --

Just to be clear, is this the expanded ensemble version of the calculation?

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Re: [gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Shirts
I thought I had just managed to solve the issue :)

If you look at the soft core parameters, there are two types listed --
one with sc-r-power = 48, and one with sc-r-power = 6.  The sc-r-power
are more stable with single precision calculations.

I have changed the files on the website to make the single precision
ones the default.  Expanded.mdp warned about the issues with
precision, but left the sc-r-power in place; the Ethanol.mdp did not
warn about the potential issue.  Now both include the more efficient
path commented out.

NOTE that this means the exact numbers of the tutorials are not quite
right anymore; the process is unchanged, as is the final answer, but
the intermediate dG's will be slightly different.

However, I need to redo them anyway to make them easier in the next
1-2 weeks, so I will update them then.

If it still fails with double, that's a different issue -- because I'm
running them fine with double.





On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Christopher Neale
 wrote:
> My mistake  I still get a segfault even when using double precision. (EM 
> doesn't help, nor does switching to Berendsen pressure coupling).
>
> Note that I can stop the segfault when running at init-lambda-state = 0 if I 
> set:
>
> couple-lambda0   = none
> couple-lambda1   = none
>
> instead of
>
> couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
> couple-lambda1   = none
>
> This looks like http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/issues/1306
>
> Thank you,
> Chris.
>
> -- original message --
>
> Thank you Mark.
>
> I actually found that it crashed wihout the -multi part (no hamiltonian 
> exchange).
> The command that I used was: mdrun -nt 1 -deffnm ethanol.1 -dhdl 
> ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg
>
> If I use the double precision version, there is no segfault. That's a working 
> solution, but it is worrysome.
>
> Thank you,
> Chris.
>
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Re: [gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Shirts
And with this change, single is running fine as well.

This was a known issue, but was only documented in the expanded.mdp
files, which was an oversight.  After this, I switched so the default
is less likely to cause problems.  Because of some theory improvements
developed in the group in free energy calculation pathways, the
sc-r-power=48 pathway will now be phased out anyway by 5.1.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Michael Shirts  wrote:
> I thought I had just managed to solve the issue :)
>
> If you look at the soft core parameters, there are two types listed --
> one with sc-r-power = 48, and one with sc-r-power = 6.  The sc-r-power
> are more stable with single precision calculations.
>
> I have changed the files on the website to make the single precision
> ones the default.  Expanded.mdp warned about the issues with
> precision, but left the sc-r-power in place; the Ethanol.mdp did not
> warn about the potential issue.  Now both include the more efficient
> path commented out.
>
> NOTE that this means the exact numbers of the tutorials are not quite
> right anymore; the process is unchanged, as is the final answer, but
> the intermediate dG's will be slightly different.
>
> However, I need to redo them anyway to make them easier in the next
> 1-2 weeks, so I will update them then.
>
> If it still fails with double, that's a different issue -- because I'm
> running them fine with double.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Christopher Neale
>  wrote:
>> My mistake  I still get a segfault even when using double precision. (EM 
>> doesn't help, nor does switching to Berendsen pressure coupling).
>>
>> Note that I can stop the segfault when running at init-lambda-state = 0 if I 
>> set:
>>
>> couple-lambda0   = none
>> couple-lambda1   = none
>>
>> instead of
>>
>> couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
>> couple-lambda1   = none
>>
>> This looks like http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/issues/1306
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Chris.
>>
>> -- original message --
>>
>> Thank you Mark.
>>
>> I actually found that it crashed wihout the -multi part (no hamiltonian 
>> exchange).
>> The command that I used was: mdrun -nt 1 -deffnm ethanol.1 -dhdl 
>> ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg
>>
>> If I use the double precision version, there is no segfault. That's a 
>> working solution, but it is worrysome.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Chris.
>>
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[gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Neale
Agreed, the following parameters do not segfault in single or double precision:
sc-alpha = 0.5
sc-power = 1
sc-r-power   = 6
Same goes for http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/issues/1306 

The following parameters give a segfault in single precision but are ok in 
double precision
sc-alpha = 0.001
sc-power = 1
sc-r-power   = 48
Same goes for http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/issues/1306 

Sorry for the confusion earlier. I was using a compilation that I thought was 
double precision 
but it was actually single. Recompiling in double precision gave me the 
stability outlined above.

Thank you for your assitance Mark and Michael.

Chris.

-- original message --

Michael Shirts mrshirts at gmail.com 
Fri Sep 27 00:41:17 CEST 2013
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And with this change, single is running fine as well.

This was a known issue, but was only documented in the expanded.mdp
files, which was an oversight.  After this, I switched so the default
is less likely to cause problems.  Because of some theory improvements
developed in the group in free energy calculation pathways, the
sc-r-power=48 pathway will now be phased out anyway by 5.1.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Michael Shirts  wrote:
> I thought I had just managed to solve the issue :)
>
> If you look at the soft core parameters, there are two types listed --
> one with sc-r-power = 48, and one with sc-r-power = 6.  The sc-r-power
> are more stable with single precision calculations.
>
> I have changed the files on the website to make the single precision
> ones the default.  Expanded.mdp warned about the issues with
> precision, but left the sc-r-power in place; the Ethanol.mdp did not
> warn about the potential issue.  Now both include the more efficient
> path commented out.
>
> NOTE that this means the exact numbers of the tutorials are not quite
> right anymore; the process is unchanged, as is the final answer, but
> the intermediate dG's will be slightly different.
>
> However, I need to redo them anyway to make them easier in the next
> 1-2 weeks, so I will update them then.
>
> If it still fails with double, that's a different issue -- because I'm
> running them fine with double.
>
>
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Re: [gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org ethanol solvation free energy tutorial

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Shirts
Sounds like we've resolved all the confusion.  Thanks for prompt help
in making this clearer and better.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Christopher Neale
 wrote:
> Agreed, the following parameters do not segfault in single or double 
> precision:
> sc-alpha = 0.5
> sc-power = 1
> sc-r-power   = 6
> Same goes for http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/issues/1306
>
> The following parameters give a segfault in single precision but are ok in 
> double precision
> sc-alpha = 0.001
> sc-power = 1
> sc-r-power   = 48
> Same goes for http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/issues/1306
>
> Sorry for the confusion earlier. I was using a compilation that I thought was 
> double precision
> but it was actually single. Recompiling in double precision gave me the 
> stability outlined above.
>
> Thank you for your assitance Mark and Michael.
>
> Chris.
>
> -- original message --
>
> Michael Shirts mrshirts at gmail.com
> Fri Sep 27 00:41:17 CEST 2013
> Previous message: [gmx-users] segfault when running the alchemistry.org 
> ethanol solvation free energy tutorial
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> solvation free energy tutorial
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> And with this change, single is running fine as well.
>
> This was a known issue, but was only documented in the expanded.mdp
> files, which was an oversight.  After this, I switched so the default
> is less likely to cause problems.  Because of some theory improvements
> developed in the group in free energy calculation pathways, the
> sc-r-power=48 pathway will now be phased out anyway by 5.1.
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Michael Shirts  wrote:
>> I thought I had just managed to solve the issue :)
>>
>> If you look at the soft core parameters, there are two types listed --
>> one with sc-r-power = 48, and one with sc-r-power = 6.  The sc-r-power
>> are more stable with single precision calculations.
>>
>> I have changed the files on the website to make the single precision
>> ones the default.  Expanded.mdp warned about the issues with
>> precision, but left the sc-r-power in place; the Ethanol.mdp did not
>> warn about the potential issue.  Now both include the more efficient
>> path commented out.
>>
>> NOTE that this means the exact numbers of the tutorials are not quite
>> right anymore; the process is unchanged, as is the final answer, but
>> the intermediate dG's will be slightly different.
>>
>> However, I need to redo them anyway to make them easier in the next
>> 1-2 weeks, so I will update them then.
>>
>> If it still fails with double, that's a different issue -- because I'm
>> running them fine with double.
>>
>>
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[gmx-users] "Illegal instruction" error from alchemical-gromacs.py

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Neale
Dear Users:

I'm having difficulty running MBAR after some free energy calculations (MBAR 
via alchemical-gromacs.py obtained from alchemistry.org).
The input options to alchemical-gromacs.py have obviously changed since the 
site at 
http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/GROMACS_4.6_example:_Direct_ethanol_solvation_free_energy
was updated, but I've taken a look at the python source and it seems as if my 
invocation below should work. 
Nevertheless, I get an "Illegal instruction" error (See below).

gpc-logindm02-$ ls ANALYSIS/
ethanol.0.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.2.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.4.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.6.dhdl.xvg  
ethanol.8.dhdl.xvg
ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.3.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.5.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.7.dhdl.xvg

gpc-logindm02-$ python 
/project/p/pomes/cneale/GPC/exe/pymbar/trunk/examples/alchemical-free-energy/alchemical-gromacs.py
 -d ANALYSIS -p ethanol. -t 300 -s 1000 -v
Warning on use of the timeseries module: If the inherent timescales of the 
system are long compared to those being analyzed, this statistical inefficiency 
may be an underestimate.  The estimate presumes the use of many statistically 
independent samples.  Tests should be performed to assess whether this 
condition is satisfied.   Be cautious in the interpretation of the data.
Started on Thu Sep 26 22:32:05 2013
Illegal instruction

(omitting the -t -s and -v flags yields the same error).

I realize that I'm hijacking the gromacs list a little bit here but there is no 
mailing list for http://www.alchemistry.org/
and it seems like a good idea to have these Q&A's archived.

Thank you,
Chris.

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[gmx-users] Membrane simulation with OPLS ff.

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Neale
Dear Karthi:

As far as I am aware, there is no OPLSAA lipid force field. I have used Berger 
lipids with OPLSAA protein
( http://www.pomeslab.com/files/lipidCombinationRules.pdf ) but that is mixing 
a UA lipid with an AA protein
so be aware of possible problems arising out of that.

Charmm has proteins and lipids, but charmm lipids require charmm tip3p water 
(or at least tip4p or spc, certainly not 
regular tip3p) and are thus slower to simulate in gromacs. I'm more recently 
using the Slipids (stockholm lipids) and 
Amber99SB-ILDN protein forcefield.

Chris.

-- original message --
Is OPLSAA forcefield data already available for POPC membranes.  I am 
interested in simulation of proteins in POPC membrane.
Thank you.
Best Regards
Karthi.
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Re: [gmx-users] Membrane simulation with OPLS ff.

2013-09-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/26/13 10:47 PM, Christopher Neale wrote:

Dear Karthi:

As far as I am aware, there is no OPLSAA lipid force field. I have used Berger 
lipids with OPLSAA protein
( http://www.pomeslab.com/files/lipidCombinationRules.pdf ) but that is mixing 
a UA lipid with an AA protein
so be aware of possible problems arising out of that.



There are OPLS-compatible lipids, though they are UA, but specifically designed 
to be used with OPLS-AA:


dx.doi.org/10.1021/ct900086b

I have not seen these parameters used very widely, though.


Charmm has proteins and lipids, but charmm lipids require charmm tip3p water 
(or at least tip4p or spc, certainly not
regular tip3p) and are thus slower to simulate in gromacs. I'm more recently 
using the Slipids (stockholm lipids) and
Amber99SB-ILDN protein forcefield.



Solid choices.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] "Illegal instruction" error from alchemical-gromacs.py

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Shirts
Hi, Chris-

The best place to file this issue is the SimTK pymbar page, rather
than alchemistry.org, since it's a pymbar problem.

We have collaborators that may have updated the pymbar.py recently.
I'll try to get this stabilized in the very near future.

Testing quickly, my best guess is that it's not alchemical-gromacs.py
(latest version seems to work fine for me), but the pymbar
installation that is causing problems.  Give the illegal instruction
calculations, the helper C++ code is probably causing a problem;
perhaps it compiled using headers from the wrong version of numpy.

In most cases, the best way is to explicitly force it to use the pure
python. If you just delete the compiled _pymbar.so, then it will
default to pure Python.   It may be slower (5-10x) but it should still
finish in a minute or two.

I'm working on getting instructions for g_bar up there in
alchemistry.org as well, but there are some bugs in g_bar that I am
dealing with.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Neale
 wrote:
> Dear Users:
>
> I'm having difficulty running MBAR after some free energy calculations (MBAR 
> via alchemical-gromacs.py obtained from alchemistry.org).
> The input options to alchemical-gromacs.py have obviously changed since the 
> site at
> http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/GROMACS_4.6_example:_Direct_ethanol_solvation_free_energy
> was updated, but I've taken a look at the python source and it seems as if my 
> invocation below should work.
> Nevertheless, I get an "Illegal instruction" error (See below).
>
> gpc-logindm02-$ ls ANALYSIS/
> ethanol.0.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.2.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.4.dhdl.xvg  
> ethanol.6.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.8.dhdl.xvg
> ethanol.1.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.3.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.5.dhdl.xvg  ethanol.7.dhdl.xvg
>
> gpc-logindm02-$ python 
> /project/p/pomes/cneale/GPC/exe/pymbar/trunk/examples/alchemical-free-energy/alchemical-gromacs.py
>  -d ANALYSIS -p ethanol. -t 300 -s 1000 -v
> Warning on use of the timeseries module: If the inherent timescales of the 
> system are long compared to those being analyzed, this statistical 
> inefficiency may be an underestimate.  The estimate presumes the use of many 
> statistically independent samples.  Tests should be performed to assess 
> whether this condition is satisfied.   Be cautious in the interpretation of 
> the data.
> Started on Thu Sep 26 22:32:05 2013
> Illegal instruction
>
> (omitting the -t -s and -v flags yields the same error).
>
> I realize that I'm hijacking the gromacs list a little bit here but there is 
> no mailing list for http://www.alchemistry.org/
> and it seems like a good idea to have these Q&A's archived.
>
> Thank you,
> Chris.
>
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[gmx-users] OPLS/AA + TIP5P, anybody?

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Neale
Dear Gigo:

I've never used tip5p, but perhaps you could add some LJ terms to the opls_120 
definition,
do your minimization, then remove the fake LJ term on opls_120 and run your MD?

If that doesn't work, then you might be able to minimize your system using 
FLEXIBLE tip3p
water and then use a script to convert the tip3p into tip5p. I expect that you 
can set 0,0,0
coordinates for each of the tip5p dummy atoms and that they will get correctly 
positioned 
in your first mdrun step with tip5p.

Chris.

-- original message --

Dear Mark,
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, TIP5P is completely rigid and 
the FLEXIBLE define will not change it. Any other ideas?
Best,
g

On 2013-09-24 23:51, Mark Abraham wrote:
> You should be able to minimize with CG and TIP5P by eliminating
> constraints, by making the water use a flexible molecule, e.g. define
> = -DFLEXIBLE (or something). Check your water .itp file for how to do
> it.
> 
> Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Writing periodic image coordinates.

2013-09-26 Thread Kavyashree M
Thank you Sir!

Regards
Kavya


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

> Hi Kavya,
>
> genconf -nbox 3 3 3
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tsjerk
>
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> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Kavyashree M  wrote:
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> > Dear users,
> >
> > For some analysis I require the 27 periodic images
> > of the system I ran the simulation for. Kindly let me
> > know how can it be written to a pdb file.
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat after trjconv

2013-09-26 Thread Venkat Reddy
Thanks for the quick reply sir.
So, does it mean I can apply "trjcat" on the processed xtc files???


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

> Hi Venkat,
>
> These options are 'frame intrinsic' or 'history independent', unlike -pbc
> nojump.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tsjerk
>
> On Sep 26, 2013 6:46 PM, "Venkat Reddy"  wrote:
>
> Dear Tsjerk sir,
> I used trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact options.
>
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat after trjconv

2013-09-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Yes.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Venkat Reddy  wrote:

> Thanks for the quick reply sir.
> So, does it mean I can apply "trjcat" on the processed xtc files???
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar  >wrote:
>
> > Hi Venkat,
> >
> > These options are 'frame intrinsic' or 'history independent', unlike -pbc
> > nojump.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tsjerk
> >
> > On Sep 26, 2013 6:46 PM, "Venkat Reddy"  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Tsjerk sir,
> > I used trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact options.
> >
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